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Home My WebLink About1976-12-08 PC Minutes~ ~" ) ''"-.1 `,,,.,J MINIITB3 OF THE MOUNDS V2EW PLANNIN6 COMMYSSION Deaember 8,1976 The Mounda View Planning Commisaion w~~ ~a11ad to ordar st the City Hall by ita ch$irperaon, Barbara Hnake, at 7:30 pm on Wednesday, Deoember 8, 1976. The :ollowing membera were px~esent: Nanay Burmeieter, Paul Fe1or, Phyllle Blanchard, Allan Zepper, Robert Ola~er, Don Maokeben, ~erald Foes and barbara Haake. Alno preeent were:Couneilfigh Shelqulat and 3teva Roae. The minubea for the November ttieetin~ were oorrected ae Tollowe: Qn page 1, 2nd paragraph, it should read: We are aarrying it under a variance rulingv. Ct3P (Fr~Re-6lazer) bo npprove the minubee of November 10,1976. ae cox•rected. ~ ayee Ms. Haake aUatained as ahe had not been present at h•he 1 abet November meeting. ITEMS FOR CONBIDERA'TION Norberb Moe Propexty ~nvolved: Ma~or Subdiviaiont 1 lot into 9. 8373 & 8379 Red Oak Dr Moe Homestesd Addition Leroy L. ~4eyerson appeared for the above request. MSP (6lanchard-Blarmeister) to remove bhe Norbert Moe request from the table. 8 ayes The proposal is to subdivide one lot which' 1s 473 x 405 inbo 9 loEe. 5 lota will be 91 x z34 facing Sunnyside Etoad;and 4 lote will be faci.ng Red Oak Drive ,~wo of whiah wi11 be 89.5 x 239 and 1 lob to be 112 x 239 and ttie last lot to be 17.4 x 239• Steve Rose stated that ihe new preliminary plab in taking an additional 8 feet on Red Oak ae that is the only way that the county will aacept'lt. ne re~nlnaen cna ccmmxaeio6 tnac in *.!Ie paet cney have givan tne ?7 Peet, it is only on Red Oak LYiat ~he~ have been consSntently against it. Fixrbher, D1r. Rose eteted thst after reviewing it lgain the st~sff would like to see 5 foot utillty easements taken in every lot going in Che East and Wegt direction. The reaeon is becauee of the land contoura whiah require additional drainap,e and utllity aasements. M5P {Fosa-Zepper) to recommend to the Council that they gretnt the ma~or subdivision of Norbert Moe, 9373 ~ 8379 Red Oak Drive, known as Moe Flomeatee.d Addition, with the fo].lowing cqnditions: drainage and utility aesementa on the 7orth and eouth 5 feet of Lot 1, north 5 feet , of Lot 2, south 5 feet oT Lo'c 4, north and south 5 feet of Lot 5, no•rth f and south 5 feet of Lot 6, north an3 ctouth 5 feat of Lot 7, north arid ~~~~~ south y feet of Lob 8, and souCh 5 fer~t af Lot 9, and tn delete the praposed 8 foot easement on Red Ouk Drive on the prelim4nary plat, dimenoions as etated above. 8 ayes -z- Jamee B. Jaa~son Proper y nvolved: 2935 Highway 10 e+'1 Rezoning R-1 to H-2 (offiaa bullding) ( ; Me. Haake explained that the lot 1e 102.~ Uy approximatoly 600 feet deep end Mr. Jaakson wiehee to eonatruot an offioe building on thie properby. It id all reeidential exoept a gag sCation at 2900 Highway 10. The Compreheneive Plttn atatee thab we do not want more atrip zonin~ elong Highway 10. It le now medlum denaity. Mr. Jaokeon etated that thia Uuildinq ie for his own uee and he will uae 1t ad gn ~ffloe rentel building. There is no struoture on it at present. Comm. Foae eaid that when the Commisaion aame up with the Comprehensive Plan he never dld agrea that Ehie should be reeidential. Unlese we want te pay high proparty taxe~i we have to think about letting more oTfioe buildinga in or eamething. Comm. Fedur said that it Se too muoh commeraiel into too emall a lot. Stave ttoee etated that he fe7.t they sriculd think along the lines that Rn~ilwood will be extended at eome point tsnd thai would oreate two buildable lote. Mn. Haeke steted that ehe Pelt that in CYds esse we had a Comprehonsive Plan drswn up and we should oC~ak with it. ~~ Comm. Maokeben said that the Commiseion spent a aonaiderable amount of time eva:uating it, it went to the citizene of Mounds View, it was _.. approved, and ir we are going to be eonatatent, wa shouid live by that plan. Dir. Rooe eaid that tl~ere are a number oY small lots along Highway .ti0 end iP you rezone thia ona you ehould add somebhlnq to the Qomprehensiva P~.an~the+Gity Would itave no dc~fense'in donying other futUre :~quests. Comm. Fose said that he thought they ehould think of what we ure going tn do with thla atrip and he doee not sgree that the beat uae is residential zoning of this l~rid. MS (rador-6laakeben) to recommend to the Counail thnt they deny the requeet of Jamea H. Jackson for rezoninR from R1 to II2 becauae it is in direot oonflict wi,th the City~e ComprghenalVe Plan in that it would tend to further conr.ontrate ~ommercial dove'lopment alona Ilighway 10 and this would bc~ aSxrlP aommc+rcist rezon3ng. aopper-nay c3laaer-nay Blanchard-nay Fose-nay Chairperaon kaake 7,ndicated that a tie vote is a denial Haake-aye of the request. Burmeieter-aye Mackeben-aye Fe6or~-aye Comm. Fose atated that xn thia a4se he £elt they ehou2c2 tabia it and dieausa it as +3 Planning Commioaion ae Co whether we want to ohange the Plan or anything. Me. Heake se~d that e oomprehenoive plan haa L•aken on muoh weight in Court. Tlyis was adoptad a yeAr aQo. We haven't even had it in exietenoe and QlxRgsy ynu want t~ ahip 8way at it. The Council fldoptAd it. •3- Comm. Gi~aer said that we endorsed the total concept but wu are not necessarily Eor every poinC. Comm. Poss qA~d that he does not look at the f,omprehansive Plan as a ~ Bible and if the tlme comes when it ~xeads ciwanp,zs ho feel~ ir can be updated. Steve Rose said that if there is a time that the Commission and tlie Council wouid like to update the plan they can, but hopefully that wouldn't be for a number of years as any chanpes sho~ld be studied at length bafore making an update. Keith Harstad (non-fee item) Pxoperty invulved: located approximately 8400 block between Crovoland Rd and Fairchild Drive, und Property Iocated between Sunnyside Rd and Lon~ Lake Road sauth of County Rd. H2. Subdivision proposals. Mr. Harstad presented a preliminary subdivision ske±ch of groperty dis- cribed above, ar.d stated that he would like some direction. Comm. Noss left at 9:50 pm. Discussion was held regarding the two subdivisi~n nroposals, attd Ms.Haako ~I stated that the consensus of th.e group is that they +vant to maintain 85 foot frontago. I ~ Comm. Fedor stated that they cat7not g~ to 61 feet. nnd then louk another I ~!"`, devoloper in the eye. ~~ 4`"J Ms. Burmeister stated Lhst he is still putting a single family home on a lot with substandard frontage regardless of whether he is reducing density ~ If he has the land platted fo:+titownhouse development thet is the ~ direction he should ~o if he wsnts density. Chairparson Nauke summarized: Mr. Harstad came in with two proposals: ; I- regarding the progarty tl~at is at uppro::imately 8400 hleck betvracn ! Groveland Rd and Fairchild Dr;ve. The Plarming Commiss_on had recom~nsnded ' for that particulur pa~~cel 10 lnts at 92 foot frontagu. Mr. tlarstad's ' Proposal I is a request for 14 Iots at 66 foot f.rontage. Proposnl II was for 14 lots that wou13 comc 3n on a cul de sac off of Groveland Rd. end another cuggestion by Pir. Hnrstad was for i'l lots at 76 foot frontage. Mr. Harstad indicated that he was going to g~ back and may reappear with a praliminary plat of Prc~posal II, the cul da =.ac propos~i. Further, Proposxl A For property located between Sunnyside Rd and Long Lake Rd south oE County Rd fl2. This Proposal A tvould give us 37 lots at approximately an average frontaga of 62 feet. The Planning Commission indi.cated that the 62 !'rontage would be inadequate Co the standards of 85 foot frontage. Purther: Mr. Murstad mentioned a percel purchased between Lonp,view ~rive and Silver Lake Rd sout'h of Caunty Rd. H2. Tt is zonad business on Si2ver Lake Hd and R3 on Longview Drive. lfr. Harstiud was intPr.ding to ~, meintai~i the commercial zoning but would su~;gest that tha R3 zoning on ~ 'ti../ Longview Dr?ve be redu:ed to ti-1 with 60-65 foot frontage. Mr. Harstad's -4- ' a0tention was oslled to the new Comprahene2ve Plan whioh indioatee ' ~~ medium danait,y for that area. ~ , - ~._. Ohairpereon Naake etated tHat our Compreheneive Plan hae not been teetect I yet but elready theme hame been two requeste. One requesb wae for epot ~ zoning or the aommeroial zoning thst Mr. Jaokaon requeeted, and the eeoond i one was for a propoeal that DSr. HareCad brought before the Commiesion I for the Sand that io presently zoned H and R3 on 311ver Lake Rd~ i 9tAVe Roee suggented that perhape one meebing a month wae suffioient at ' this tima. Me. Haeke euggeeted the 2nd Wedneeday in January be the next meeting. It was agreed that the next meeting wi11 be yanuary 12. Until the future iudiaatee that Lrio work load is tao heavy, we will go baok to one meeting a month. Nowever, if there is ariy indioat4dnt;Zhat we ahould be hera even one hour twiae a month for ttze sake of the reeidants, let us know. The Planning Dommieaion ~hen reviowed tha suggested revisione of Chp. 4Q, the 2oning Oode. Maeting ad~ourned at 1~i45 pm. ~ ~ ' 1~ Ruepeatfully eubmitted, ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~~ /~ . ~,~~. ,~~ ,~: , : JupY 5~' ho m " __ tary , y Reaording 9eore ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ . ~ , ~ ~ , , ~ , ,., • , .., , :_ „, ~ , , „ ~ ~ ~, ,