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MINUTES OF THE MOUNDS VtEW
PLANNIN~ COFIMIS5iQN
JUNE 8, 1977
7he Maunds View P1enM ng Comnission was called to order et the C1Ey He11 by 1ti
Chairperson, Barbara Heeke, et 7s30 PM, on Wednesday , June 8, 19r7~ Th~ foFloWlnp
members aere presents Don Meckeben, Pau1 Fedor, Robert ole:er, Berbere Heak~,
Nancy 8urmelsEer, Phyllis 8lanchard. Also prassnt wes Buitdlnq 6 Yening Of11o1e1
Steve Rose. Excused ebsent: Derald Foss end F11en iepper,
Ms Haake added Co the minutes of Mey 11, 1977 et Ehe buttom of pege 2 th~ fo1-
lowing: the variance of three fceE w~s grented to Mr Beach beaeufe oF herddhlp
o±~ the property. His tot !s onty 76 feet W1de and thm additlon to hif haM on
its west side would stiil leeve 17 faeL between his hame end h1s n~tphbor'~ on
the west.
MSP (eurmeister-Neake) to approve the Ficy li, 1977 minutet as coPr~at~d,
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ITEMS FOR CONSIDER,q7IQN
Off Street Perking Requirements
Review existing code fur posstble amendments
Make reco,imendatlon to Councit
Mr Rose stated thet the everage length and groat welphL of p~c1^~ation V~Mc1~t it
24' and 4400 tbs respectlvely. S4aff etao checked on insurance cowNap~ With
several of the me~ropolltens lerger firms end found Lhet r~cr~ntlon v~hiGlo~ w•ra
covered on or off premises with comprehensiva coverey~~ H~ ~Eet~d theE th~ P1en•
ning Comnission should have a recomnendetlon to th~ Counell e4 tho Councit w111.
hoid a public heering on reorestionat VdMcisa on Junt 20, ~977~
Rt 7:46 RM Phyiiis 8iancha M arrived,
Comnfssioner Naake stated she hed rece~ved few ce11s from citixrns wNa did not
want to come to th~ meetings, but prefsrred na~ heW ng vihf~l,e psrkad in the
front ,yerds.
7he Comnission discussed the nead for n setbeck of r~craaClonal vehlcla~ or eny
othep equipmei~~t trom street serv9ca for V1tab11ity ~afo~y . 5tefP recommended a
20' to 30' setbeck from the street surfnce nntin that th~a would requlre maet
a11 recrantional vehlaies to 6e parked 9n tA~a N~e ar r~ar yard, es the totai
house seCAeck from the street mey renge fran 37' to 47',
Ms Burmeister steted thet there would not be too meny ~ho wou1d have e 3~' vehlcle
,r,;;,, that they want to put tn the front yerd. She fa)t ther~ wers three cboices: (1)
i A leave 9t the wny it is; (2) changa it Dy qlving graetar or tess lenqth and (3)
~^~ no law at a11.
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+ Ms Haake said if you had a 28' vehicTe, you would have to ask for s conditional
P~~"~ use permit, All surrounding co~nun9ties are putting out sane sort of ordinance
regarding recreational vehicias and are forbidding parking in the front, We
could be unique by using a canditinnal use permit as a control point. We aouid
suggest the Council add the candltional use permiC to the ordinance, This could
then be considered at their June 20 meeting. Our guldelines could be: (i)
recommend a lengCh change or (?) maintain the no frant yard parking, but have a
conditianal use permit availabie to residents if this ordinance is a hardehip•
There wi11 be a pubtic hearirig connected with iC, Also check to see iF there
wouid 6e adaquate screening. We could go up to 24' ditii a weight restriction
of 9400 lbs.
Comm Mackeben said this would be creating a haxard hecause you are parked almost
in the street.
Conm Fedor said what he was saying is to park in the front if you are 30' from
the street.
Ms Haake felt that everyone shoutd be looked at individually as there could be
8%CEPt~b115.
tds Burmeister said she could not see going 28', as most are happy with 'L4'.
Mr feder repeated he thought the length could be 28' and also allow recreational
vehicle parking in the frant, side yarA, rear yard and require minimum setback of
at 7e~st 20' from the street surface, and anything that d?~n't correspond could
`~ go with a canditional use permit,
"- MSP (Pedor-BUrmeister) to recomne;~d to Council they approve the following changes
to AQ.02 in the zoning cude: change the definition of a recreation•r,l vehicle to
a non-comnercial vehicle designed for recreational purpuses not to exceed 26' in
length. That recreational vehicle parking be allowed in the front, side and rear
yards, and a 30' minimum setback from ati street surfaces be required. Secondly,
conditional use permits be required for parking larger recreational vehicles
along with written permission from att the ad~acent neighbors. A condit{onal use
permit should be issued because nf space limitations, iT this vehicle does not
interfere with any neighbor's tfne oP vision or the sight of the traft'ic on the
raad. Ef the house setback is such that the vehicle couid be put in the front
yard without hindertng any neighbars, screening may be required. further,
adoption of the ieqaT definitions as on the memo of JUne 8, 1977 as fo77ows:
Passenger Automobfle; "passenger automobi7e" means any motor• vehicle designed
and useJ For the carrying of oot more than eight petsons, but excluding motor-
cycies, motor scooters and station wagons.
`g Mobile Home And Housr. Trailers: (a; "Mobile hom2" means any trailer or semi-
# trailer wM ch is designed, cons:r~!cted and equipped for use as a human dwe111ng
t' place, living abode or 1lving quarters except house trai7ers. (b) "House trailers"
j, means any traile; or sem7-trailer which is not more than eight feet in width and
f: not more than 35 feet in length and wM ch is designed, constructed and equipped
i for use as a haman dwelling p7ace, iiving abode or living quarters.
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~ ~ Truck: "Truck" means any motor vehicle designed and used for carryin9 tiiings
other than passengers.
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TracEor; "Trector" means any motor vehtcle desiqned or used for drawing other
~ vehicles but having no provislons for carrying loads indeppndently.
Treiler: "Traller" meens any vehicle designed for carrying property or pessengers
an its own structure and for beingdrawn by a motor veM cl~, but sha11 not lnetude
a trailer drewn by e truck/trector/semi-traller combination,
Sr~ii-traiTer; "Semi-trafler" means e vehicle of the trailer Cype so deslgne~ and
used in conJunction wfth a truck/tractor that a considerable ryart of i!s awn
we1ght or that of ies load rests upon and is carried by the truck/tractor, and
shatl inctude a trailer drawn by a trur,k/tractor/semi-trafier combinetion.
Recreational equlament: "Recreational equipment" means house treilers 1ncluding
those which te7escope or fold down, chasis mounted campere, house cars, motor-
homes, tent ±roilers, s11p in camoers, canverted buses and converted vans.
The motlon was defeated 5 to 1 as fotiowse etanchard - ndy, Burmeister - n411>
Glazer - nay, Fedor - aye, Mackeben - nay, Haake - nay.
MSP (Haake-Mackeben) to recomnend to the Counci'i they approve the fo1lowing
chxnges to 40.02 in the zoning code: change the definition of recreatlonal
vehicle to a non-carmercial vehicle deslgned for recreational purposes not to
exceed 26' in length. That recreational vehicle parking be allowed in the side
and rear yards, and conditional use permits be required for parking larger
recreational vehicTes. Also a signed permission from a71 the ad~acent nelghbors.
A conditl~nal use permit should be issued because of space limitations, if this
- vahdcie does not interfere with any nelghbor's liiie of vision or the sight of Che
traffic on the road. If the house setback is such that the vehicle cou;d be put
,_,. in the front yard without hindering any neighbors, screening ma; be required.
Further, adoption of the 1ega1 definitions as on the memo of June 8, 197I, as
stated previously in the minutes.
A vote was taken and the motion died. 3 Ayes
3 Nays
MSP (Glazer-Mackeben}~to tab7e the above item unt!1 the end of the meeting.
6 Ayes
Rose Sinaer
Property invotved: 785p Spring Lake Roa6
Rezoning {k-1 to R-4 Conditional Use}
Recuperative Horae Proposal
P15P (Blanchard-Burmeisker) tu rertiode the above matter from the tablp. 6 Ayes
Steve Rose stated Rose 5inger of Sinqer Therapeutic Concepts has made ao applica-
tion for a recuperative home which would heuse a maximum of 12 problem femates
ages 13-17. The home wauld be operated by a full-time staff of five on a 24 hour
basis. 7he appiicatfon requires a rezoning from R-1 to R-4 wlth a conditiuvai
use permit and an annua7 1lcense for perm9tted operation. Rezoning of the praperty
srom P.-1 a R-4 would perminate, while the conditional use permit woutd beeome
~ void if the use discontinued. The Pryanntny Comt~ission in wnsider~!ng a special use
~~,,,,,/ permit is requtred to consider, but not 1lmited to, these five effects:
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~ 1 RelatlonsM p to the Municipal Comprehensive
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6 Uemonstration of a need for such a use
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the area for which it is proposed
There would also be p9rking and screening cansiderations. Thern would be a minlmum
of elght marked perkt~g speces, 9~ x 28' requirad. At present, three are provided
for. There vrould have to be additionel paving or a variance. Atsa, side yard
variances wouid be required of both sides. They propose to put a six foot screening
fence around the entire property. A variance wouid be required for the gix:foot
fence in the front yard.
Patrick Sweeney, attarney for Singer 7herapeutic Concepts, stated Rose Singer has
bean in the field uf recuperative care of female ,~uveniles and is a prnfessional
in this area. She has gone through the application process, has gone through Che
State Hea7th Board and We]fare Oepartment and has met their conditiuna, and has
complied wiCh a71 state and c~~unty regulations for thi, type of facility. She
comes wlth the lntent of working with the comnunity to maet some of the needs of
these ~uveniles. He further stated that there are sone fuveni7es from this area
thzi could use the facillty. It would be an asset to the :ommunity and heip them
better understand whaC can be dune with recuperation in a residential setting. Pir
Sweeney's ~ob is Co meet any of the state and county comnission rules as far as
legal questions. They would intend ta being it back to R-1 if anythtng should
happen or if it were going Co be used as a different type of facility at a future
date.
i~~ A question was asked a, to the d9fference between Rule 8 and Rule 5, and Mrs S7nger
~w' replied that Rule 5 is much more strict as far as requirements; different number of
staff and numbers of children, A house cannot accomnodate moF•e than nine youngsters
under Rule 5. Ru1e 6 allows as many as the fac111ty could hatd. Mr Rose was
incori~ect, siie added, when he said 12 previously; it shou7d have been eight.
Gordon Kuluvar
7815 Gloria Circle
Mr Kuluvar asked if hc could present some questions for the comnunity.
1 Identify what a conditionai permit entails; a certain amount of time7
2 Would it remain R-4?
3) lJhat impact wi71 the plans, if rezoned, have on the tax base of the cammunity7
Mr Sweeney replled that unless they applied for an exemption, it would tncrease the
taxes. 7hey do nnt fntend to apply for a tax exzmption as they are a private cor-
poration.
David Riley
7E3?0 Gloria C1r1e
Mr R11ey stated he lives in this residential neighborhood, What happens in the
future? Can you guaranlee me that :;he will nat sell to a non-profit organization7
Mr Sweeney said there could be a convenent; Chey ineend to bring it back to R-1.
~~ It wou7d not reduce the tax base, it would lncrease it.
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Mr Kuluvar stete ihey mentioned tF~ere was a spocific need for Mounds View,
alluding to ~uveniles in the Mounds View area. What kind ef numbers are we
) talki~ig about?
Mr Singer replied that Chuck Casey, the proCat±on officer, stated there are
15-2U girls from the hiounds View area. He further added they are going by
the ftgure of the CBA (Criminal Bureau of Apprehension) and these figures are
submitted by your police deparCment. There arr~ piaced out of Alounda View 80
to 150 youngsters a year, both glrls and boys. These are for felonies, this is
not even covering stat~as offenses.
Mr Singer stated the femnles using the faci7lty could be from Ramsey or Hennepin
County, and Ms Naake said t:here may not be one of the twelve from kounds View.
Jane ~Yunn
7?55 Spring Lake Road
k~puid an environmental impact ,tudy be required for rezoning ~r remodeling thts
property, and if so, what kind?
Mr Rose replled that it did not meet criteria which woutd require a study.
Ms Nunn continued: Spring Lake is our ane naturai recreatt.;nal ~~esource, and this
proposal could adversely affect it, Wauld any construction a)ter the drainage
pattern, perhaps more fertiiizer would be needed where the runoff could affect the
lake.
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Mr Rose stated that citizens could require an emironmental impact statement.
~- ' However, the appiicant has not stated sfie wants tu buitd an addition~ only possibie
additional parking.
Ms Siriger sEated a family of six was 7iving there now, and they would hava only
two more. They have no remodeling plans, oniy thinking about an underground storm
cetlar.
Mr Mackeben asked how it was funded, and Ms Singer reptied through private sale of
stock. Th:.~ girls come through the court system, weifare department, etc. Aarents
that aan pay, do so; otherwise through Pederal monies primarily.
Tqm Dougher8y
2757 LaPorL
Is it perhaps proposed ta run 1t into a non-profit organization4
Mr Sweeney assured him there is na such intent. For the corporatian to do that it
would have to disso7ve. It 7s not in their p7ans.
Mr Oougherty sCated in the parking around that facility, it seems hat~d to be7leve
there would be onty five staff people that would need parking. There wouid be many
visiting hours that would also require parking.
Sarbara S]etten
~ Sfnger Therapeutic Cuncepts
The hame wi11 reyuire five staff people totaiiy, and they would not be there all the
time. Only one person at night. Possibly some parking on the street, but there is
room in the driveway for three.
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Mr pougherty said that if providing for visitaEion, you would need parking for
~~ some period of t1me.
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~~ Mr Sweeney sCate the previous owner, Mr Johnson, had six children and had six
cars parked there.
Mr Rose stated all parking spaces must be independent of each other, you should
not have to move one car to get anather out. Eight spaces would be required.
7hey woutd need additional paving fc~ thaC. Also, egress must be considered
for ~mergency equipment.
Ms Sletten stated that tentatively therN are not future changes cnntemplated.
The house has passed the health cndes as it is, There are adequate bedrooms and
bathrooms. ?hey are putting in a fire escape an the bedr•oom level and smoke
detectors.
Mr Riley state he feared if she got her rezoning to P.-4 she could appiy for Ru1e 8
Mr Mackeben said the conditional use permit could limit that.
Mr kiley wondered if it would be a legal document if a covenent Was made to put
it uack to R-1 at the end of tne use of R-4.
Mr Sweeney said he would like to present it to the Counci1 and to Mr R11ey in a
niora lagal definitio~. ?hcir ir,tent 1s nok to trick anyone. He feels he can show
the Comnissiun how he can ass+.~re them that will take place, but needs more time.
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i Mr R11ey asked ;f these inuividuals had been placed with the ~irvenile authorities
~1 for sane crime, and Ms Singer replted not necessarily plcked up for an offense..
She wants to get to these younqsters before they end up in severe crime.
Mr Riley asked 9f they had to put in a conventional parking lot in the front yard?
Mr• Rose replied they can have a row of parking along the driveway, with each
sFace independent of all others.
Mr Kuluvar asked why this property vras chosen. Ms Singer replied other propert,y
zoned R-4 was next to the Launching Pad and ather piaces which is no place for
troubled children. This home meets all the needs, which is why it was chosen.
Ms Haake stated that azross from Mounds View Shopping Center it is aiso zoned R-4.
Mr Kuluvar asked what kind of Gtudies ~~ad been made of property values, especially
ad,~acent ones.
Ms Stetten advised they did one study, the Volunteer> of America Group Home in
Golden Valley. 7hey checked homes on each slde and they are rislny at the same
percentage rates as the other homes in Golden Vailey. 7hey were aiso R-1 single
fainily dwe174ng areas.
Mr Sweeney said their relation to the group home in Galden Vatley was similar
circumstances, simiiar setting, and thought the compwrison woutd 6e a good experi-
ence as to what happens after four or five years.
'~ Mr Kuluvar asked what selectiv9ty would be over the adolescents.
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Ms Singer replied that it would remain female adolASCents 6ecause they don't have
,d~R enough placeinents~ She has complete control aver the intake. Mr Singer said
~ a t1iaE he quoted figur2s from the Mounds 4lew Polfce Department, which did not
certify that the ycungsters from Mounds Yiew would be pleced in the hame.
Mr fedar asked if these were offenders cominy in. F1r Sweeney replied that F.e
felt Ms Singer had qualified the type oP female she wilt work with, she wants
to pre~enL problems.
Ms Singer said they don't necessari'ly have to go throu9h the court, They could be
in troubie at hame and rather than have them end up in the street, a placement is
looked into. We witl get these children predeiinquent.
A citizen stated they malled letters out to everyone stating theSe chiidren have
been on dope and are very tiostiie. Now 1t is aitogether differenC.
Mr Singer raplied that is not the type af youngster that wil'I he in the home.
That was ~ust an indication to have some informatlon to base questions on. They
wou7d not have a premeditated violent offender.
Ms Nunn asked, in the permane~rt sta`f, how many are skilled and unskilied, how
does everything function2
Ms Singer aaid that her otaff has 8A degrees, cook is ~ust a cook, arid they atso
heve a maintenance person. A registered nurse,child care stafY are all adequatety
quaiified, depending on who would apply. According to weifare rules, I oniy need
~-~ vne staff ~erson for every ten youngsters and I reel we need two.
~--~ Mr Riley ~sked Iw;,~ many tctal people wi11 be working day to day with professionai
quaTi~ications?
Ms S1eCten replied six wi'~h BA's or MA's, a teacher part-time and also a part-time
ps~chologist, maiatenance man end cook. Four part-time hrofessionals and two
sk111ed or unskilled indivlduals; tota'iling 13 peopie not necessar9ly fu11-time.
Mr Kuluvar asked the type of mobility for recreation and school?
M5 Singer repilEd they attend schnol in the house until they demonstrate ability
then are transfered to comnunity schaol with their teacher acting as liason. She
will be broughc back int~ the house if she cannot fit. The recreatlon primari)y is
tn the yard, utilizing the 1ake. There are aiso Lrips +.o museums, variety of cui-
turat and sports events - a1t with ciose supervision.
Ms Burmeister asked how tong the aver~age stay is1
Ms Sfnger replied it is pretty individual hut usuaily about 3- 5 months, at which
time they usuaTly return to their familfes.
Ms Haake stated iF they approve something 71ke tbis, the recomnendat9on would be
t~ change the ordinance,
MSP (Fedor-Glazer) to recarmend to tha Council that they deny rezoning and condi-
~"''=~ t4onal use permit to Rose Sinqer, 7850 Spring Lake Road, 6ecause (1) it 1s 1n
~ direct confNct with the CiCy Gomprehens ve Plan wMch is singie family residentiel
and the requeyt is for R-4 high density; (2) character of the surrnunding neighbqrhood
is compietely sing7e family, and in effect would be spot razpning, and (3) the
facility does not meet the provisions of the Mounds View Zon9ng Code, 40.23 A(5),
and is also short of adequate narkiny and sideyard set backs.
6 Ayes
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~ Dynamic Developers, inc
Property involved: 2070 H171view Road
Varfance (reduction of buiiding setbacks)
~ R-1 Devalopment
Jemes Cypress appeared for Oynamic Deveiopers, and steted they were reyuesting to
buildi~g a single family dweiiinc~ on e nan-conforming 7ot with substandard frontage
end area. The dwelling vmuid front Nillvlew Road, being 30' x 26' 1t would require
a side yard varianca of 2.8' on the west side and 8.4' on the east.
Mr Rose reiterated the size and location requires a 2.8' variance on the west end
8.4' on the east. The house on the corner behind 2070 H111view is located five
feet from the east property 11ne.
Mr Cypress stated tNare wouio be an unattached garage, They are bui'Idtng to se11.
MSP (Burmeistar-Haake) to recomnend tu 2he Councii Co deny the request of Dynamic
Devalopers, Inc bscause it does not meet the r2quirements and seLbacks in the front
and the s9de even though the 1ot was ptatted prior to Mey 9, 1960, and doe,s meet
ths 10% criteria that wns required prior to that date.
Mr Cypress stated they can meet tfie front setback with no problem. They have 174
~eet tc e:ork with, As far as the 7C."< figure, Lhey are within that. Where the
quest9on might arise is tho width of the housr as agalnst the N111W ew frontage
Motion failed. 1 Aye
5 Nays
~~^ ~ MSP (Mackeben- Fedor) to recommend te the Council the apprnval of the vartance of
~~ Dynamic Oeveiopers, Inc, 2070 Hil7view Road, granting a 2.0 variance on the west
rear side ard an 8.4' variance on the east sids of said property based an hardship
case of the City craating a substandard lot wM ch resulted frnm installation of e
service road. 1 Nay
5 Ayes
Ronald W Fag~rsCrom
Property involved: 7408 Silver Lake Road
Minor subdivisian (reaision of property line)
R-1 Oevelopment
Appllcant requests to combine two lots to make two 7ots. The north lot is 132'
wide end the south loC is 50' wide. Tota1 frontage is 182', and the request is
to create two equ:] 91' lots fronting Silver Lake Road for single family dwellings.
MSP (Glezer-Blanchard) to recommenC to the Gouncii the approval of the minor subdi-
vision requesL• of Ronald W Fxgerstrom, 7408 Silver Lake Road, to combine two lots
to make two lots. The north tot being 192' wide and Lha south lot being 50' wide,
2ota7 frontage w~uld be 182'. T'he request is to crn_ate two equa' ?0 foat lots to
creata single family dweitings, b Ayes
Genrge Payne
Property involved; 8400 Long Lake Road
Minor Subdivis9on (one 1ot into twa)
~ R-1 Develoqnent
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Applicant requests to subdivide the tat fronting both long Lake Road and Greenwoad
P~ Cr1ve. The 1ot fronting Gweenwood would be ltl2.5' x 195' The lot fronting Long
' Lake Road would be 102,8' x 149.26' deep on the north, and 201.44' deep on the
south s1de.
Mr Rose stated both tots have conforming width and area requirements. The tot
fronting Long Lake Road has an existing dwe'iling which meets e11 setbeck require-
ments. Thn prapcsed 5' rear easements for utillties and drainage are sufficient.
MSP (8urmeister-Blancherd) to recommend tn the Council they approve th~ request
of George Payne, 8400 Lony Leke Road, with five foot rear eesements for ut111ties
and drainage, The 1ot on Greenwood woutd be 302,6' x 196', the 1ot fronting Long
Lake Road would be :02.6' x 129.25' on the narth side and 2Q1.44' on the south side.
6 Ayes
Anthony Saldana
Property involved: 7800 Bona Road
Minor Subdivision (revislon of property line)
R-1 Development
Applicent requests approvat to purchase 22.5' of the 7ot located north of Ms pro-
perty and canbine it with a lot he owns which is G2,5' wide to make a corfnrming
buildable lot totaiing O5'.
Mr Rose statedhe recelved a phone call and the request is cFian e to 20' to be pur-
chased from the ne9~iiL•o~. The piat maps are also incorrect. ~He then handed out
'"'~~ ta the Cortentsslon?rs surveyor's certificates received June 8, 1977). The reason
`.,~ for this change is the neighbor is Crying to save trees. Therefore, the rear
lines now coincide. It is substandard now by 2.5', but the combination does not
have a setback prob7em with the neighbor's home. No easements at this time are
necessary.
MSP (Glazer-Burmeister) to recomnend to the Councl7 they approve the request of
Anthany Saldane, 7800 8ona Raad, ta pu1^chase 20' of the lot located north of
his property and combir,e it with his present lot which is 62.5', to maka a bu11d-
able toC. A varianre of 2.5' of frontage is necessary. The new lot wilt be 82.5'
wide x 132' d~zep. 6 Ayes
Eugene Buck
Property involved: 2949 Woodale Drive
Minar Subdivision (revlsion of praperty line)
Fr.isting R-1 devetopment
Applicant requests appr^ova1 tv purchase ten feet from the property owner located
at 2932 Woodale to give his home a mare adequate side yard setback. Both loto
wil7 meet size requirements after combination.
MSP (Mackeben-Fedor) to rer,omnend to the Co~ncil they approve the revision of the
property lines for Eugene Ouck, 29~i0 !9oodale ~rive, to pravide an additional ten
feet to his property bring~ng his lot to 134.44' frontage on Woodale Drive.
6 Ayes
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Uavid Jahnke
~ Property involved: 8428 Eastwood Road
~ Minor Subdtvision (One 1ot lnto two)
" R-1 Devetopment
Mr Rose sCeted that Mr Jahnke got catled to work and reqtlested the Comnission
approve it if at a11 possible.
Ms Hnake stated the peCitioner nor his representative are here, but Mr Jahnke
was here earlier, but had to teave. He was caiTed to work and was not able to
stay in attendance unt11 10;45 Pt1 when this item came up, Ne requested we con-
sider it and forward our recomnendations on, if possible, and we feel we would
like to do so.
Appllcant requests to subdivide a iot approximately 472' x 127.5' fronting both
Easthvod and Suttttystde Rcad, The lot frontina Eastwood woutd be 127.8' and 269.6'
The la: fronting Sunnyside would be 117.5' wide and 234.1.5' deep.
Mr Rose stated both lots meet area and frontage requirement~. IL cannot be sub-
dlvfded Further.. 7he lot fronting Eastwood has an existing dwelling which still
meets setback requirements after the subdivision reyuested. Drainage and ut111ty
easements shoiild be required 5' along the rear of both 1ots. Also, an additional
5' of road easement for Eastwood Road.
MSp (F^der-Burmeister) that we recommend to the Cauncil they approve th? minor
subdivisinn of David ~ahnke, 8428 Eastwood Road, creatiny two 7ots, lha toi.
franting Eastwood v~auld be 127.8 and 234.5', and xhe lot €ronting Sunnyside vmuld
i~ be 117.5' wide and 234.15' deep. Drainage and utility easements wi11 be required
~,..~ 5' aTong the r~ar of bath lots and an additional 5' for road easement on the 1at
fronting Eastwood Road.
6 Ayes
Randy Svendsen
Propewty involved: 7901 Eastwood Drive
Variance {build9ng setback - yarage additionj
Appiicant requests a variance for the setback of his garage off of Hillvlew Road.
He wishes to consy:ructinn a new garage keeping the same sett x k as the old garage
but eliminating the breezeway.
Mr Rose Said Lhat the setback oF the old garage was 19.6 from Hillview r19ht of
way (33') and the new addition W111 malntain the same 18.6 setback requiring a
variance of 11.4' for !be continuation of a nan-conforming use.
MSP (Glazer-Meckeben) to approve the variance requested by Rand,y Svendsen, 7901
Fastwoud Drive, for the setback of h9s gerage off of Hi7lview Road, the otd
setbeck was 18.6' fran H111view Road, and the new addition wi11 maintain the
same 18.6' aetback requ9ring a varlance of 11.4' for the continuetion'af a non-
conforming use. This certainly represents a personal hardship as the house wa5
built before the ordlna~ce was established.
6 Ayes
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• ,~`~y RECflEATIONAI VEHICLES
r ; MSP (Mackeb~n-Glaxerj Co remove from the table the sub,~ect of recr•eational vehicles.
6 Ayes
Ms Haake move that we redefine the term recreational vehicle. The recreatianai
vehicie is a non-comnercial vehicle designed for recreatioaal purposes not to
exceed 2d' in overall tength. 1 restate the existing ordinance that said recrea-
tlonal vehicles shall be parked only in the sideyard or backyard. I aiso recomnend
to the Council thc pnssage of the definitions listed in the memo dated June 8, 1977.
7hese elght definitions cen be found previously stated in these minutes,
Motion died fnr lack af a second.
Ms 9lanchard recommended that they throw out thr. whote nrdirancz. She felt it is
unenforceable and an infrinqement on citizens' rights to o~vr property.
Ms Ourmeister state she wouid ~o far 26' with no front yard parking. Side and rear
perking on1y.
Ms Haake stated 28', side and rear parking only. Front yard parking nnly undar
condittonat use permit.
Mr Giazer said 28', and 30' fran the curb in the front yard,
Mr Fedor statad the maximum length of 28', side an~l rear yard parking, front yard
~ parking to withi~~ a minimum of 30' from the street surface.
~~ Mr Mackeben stated not to exceed 26'. Front yard parking 30' fram the street. A71
parking oF recreationel vehicles should be on a bituminous or cemant slab.
Ms Naake staterl the reason for the po11 of the P1anning Corrmission members, as done
above„ is because it is midnight, We have spent six hours on this issue, r~e
appreciate the Counci7's problem that they are going to face on Y,he 20th and these
are our recomnendations.
The Planning f,ommission has been spending this time discuss9ng recreational vehicles.
ble Feeltiie Councii also wanCed some input re.garding comnercial vehlcles. We have
nat discussed at any iength cr~mnercia7 vehicles, so as to come up with any ~thoughtfal
recomnendations. 'fhe consenaus of the P7anning Comnission, though, 1s to restate
the?r apposition to the parking of semi-tr•ailers or semi-tractors. 7he Pianning
Comrtisston atso does recomnend to ~he Council to adopt the deFin?tion5 that were
found in tNe memo of June 8, 1977.
BAUER METAL FABRICATING
Mr Rose state that Bauer Fa~ricating had requesCed some revisions. They would 7ike
to change the scraening requirements along tYie north boundary 11ne bordering tfie
trai7er park. They were required to puL• an eight foot birm, which wilt have a
hard tirne placfng and maintaining the way the holding pond and em~!rgency raad have
been placed. 7hey are prnvidi~g an emergency service drive °rom the north, and
this wi'17 para11e7 the b1rm. 7hey would like to restrict that birm to four feat
a '~ and plant cont,i~uing shrubs.
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I~ ' MS (Haoke-Fedor) to recomnend that Beuer MeEa1 Febricating can heve a four fooL
~ birm if they put up four foot plantings the8 ere so dense they glve en opeque
eppearence to the north 1ot line. Mot+~n d1ed. 2 es
~' 3 Nays
Ms Burmiester moved to a stx fuoE blrm with plentings s~ dense Lhet there 15 no
vlsibility end to malnCain those ptentings. Motlon died for lack of a second.
'' Ms Haake stated that Mr eauer has got to malntain M s eight Poot birm ns no motion
~ was passed at this meeting.
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~; j Meeting ad,~ournnd at 12:10 AM.
!~espectfully submitted,
, Recording Secretary
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