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PROC'rEDiNGS OF THE PLANNtNG COMMf55I0N
~ CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
A regular meeting of the Mounds View Ptanning C.ommisston Nas called to order at
7:30 PM on Qctober i2, ?~17 at tha Ptounds View City Hall, E401 Highway 10,
Mounds V1ew, Mlnnesotx 60112,
Members Aresent: A1so Present:
Chairperson Haake Councilmember eaumgartner
Gortmiss9on Member 2epper Building and Zoniny Officiai Rose
Gomnisston Member Fedor
i Commiesion MemDer Burmeister
j Conmtssion Member Dlanchard
I Chafrp'erson Haake requested the Septemher 14, 1977 minutes be corrected to raad on
page H, 2nd perayraph> 6th li~e, "...development and the zoning of the property
, across the strcet from the two lots into a...".
MSP (Blanchard-Burmptster) to approve the minutes ~f the September 14, 1577 meeting
as corrected. 5 ayQs
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I! ~_.r 7-ELEVEN FOAD STORE - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
MSP (Fedor-Zepper) totake the 7-Eleven item off the table. 6 ayes
Jack Umland introduced himself as the manager of rea7 estate For 7-Eleven and stated
that 7-Eleven stores are presently very active in putting in gas pumps et their
stores across the country and that they look at it as anothxr canvenience item. They
are not cut-rate outlets but the price 9s 1-3¢ below that of a fu11 service statlon.
' Mr. Umland stated that the trend to se7f service stations has deve7opeA 6asicat7y
because of the energy situation. He also stated that he knew xhe Pi~n~iirtg Commission
was c~ncerned wlth the intensity of ihe area end 9ts use but that he did npt feel
~ self service gas pumps would intensify the area,
~~ Mr, Umland sCated that he fett there would be ampte parking provided. Ne also stated
that he was aware there was concern over the iandscaping arrd upkeep of the property
~' and assured the Commission that the area woutd be kept up, as they did wan1: to
r maintain a good community image.
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; Mr. Umland reported that tfie average customer is in a 7-Eleven store fow only 2~ to 3
I minutes and thus, did not fee7 that there would be a parking prob7em created.
! Officlal Rose stated that there ~routd be lE parking spaces required.
~Commission Memher Fedor pointed out that the 7-Eleven is,located at a tight corner
, ~ right naw and expressed his concern with the increased traffic going in and out of the
store and possiGie stack-up at tha pamps, which could cause a safety hazzrd. ~
A'Mtober 12, 19]7 peye 2
r"~ Commission Plember Zepper stated thaS if there ~vas an exit out of th~ tot in back
~ of the store onto County Road H2, that could alleviate a good deal nf the traFfic
prub'i em.
Commission Member 9urmeister expressed cancern wilti people wishing to purchase c~as
who would be pulling into a parking space while waiCing to get at the pump, thereby
tying up a parking space.
Mr. Umland replied that he could understand the concern of the City. Hawever, studies
have shown that there wouid not be a trafFtc or stacking problem ~atth gas pumps added,
He aiso stated that the particular 7-~leven store in question has way below th;e averac~e
traffic fior a J-Eteven store. Mr. Umland also stated that the City woutd have the
power of a special use permit to insure that 7-Eleven does cnmpty with the City's
wfshes.
Comm~ssion Member Burmeistei• ,tated that she was concerned ~aith children who would
be ~rossing the road from the park to ga to 7-Eleven to put air in their bicycie tires
or purchase something in the store. Mr. Umland replied that there woutd nat be an
air liose aE the store.
Chairperson Haake pointed out that there is a side~alk easement on the tot and that
a sidewalk would be put in in the future.
Cotranission Member Fedor stated that he diA not feel the City should accept the peCition
that Che 7-Eleven representatives had presented aC the September 14 meeting as many of
~~ the s9gnatures could not be read, and someone had fi11ed in their name and address with
j an "8" and so far:h. Mr. Umland replled that the petition was meant only as un addi-
--' tional tool for the Planning Com.~nission to consider.
Chairperson Haake stated that the Plannin~ Commission woutd be making no camnent on
the vnrlances that were me7tioned in the case workup sheet and that Mr. Umland hed
come before the Planning Comnission to request a condltional use permit. She stated
that tbe tase sheet indicates that a variance would have to be required for 7-Eleven
to add gas pumps at the store as the site plan does not indicate an adequate number
of parking spaces b~at that Pir. Um7and could draw them in easily, so she did not feel
a varlance would ba required. Thus, Chairperson Haake stated that a conditionai use
peYmit shoutd be considered by Che Planning Comnission.
Comnission Meinber 2epper expressed concern wTth the amount of room in front af the
store between the parking spaces and gas pumps and sEated that he did not believe a
, person would be able to back out of the parking spaces with a large veM c1e if some-
„ one was at the pump.
MSP {Haake-Burmeister) tn racommend tn the Cicy Council to deny the request for a
conditional use permit for 7-Eleven as the conditlonal use permit would not be com-
patible with the Comprehensive Ntan which indicates that tliat particular corner be
used as a neighborhaod business district and alsu under the health, safety and welfare
of vehicular traffic that would be leaving or enterin9 the 7-Eleven premises. 5 ayes
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~ hItNOR SUNO NISION OF PROPERTY AT 7555 SPRiNG IAKE ROAO
Official Rose reported that Mr. Gwiazdon has requested to subdiv9de his 165'
Spring Lake Road frontage lct into two equal 82.5' 1ots. Both lots exceed the
square footage requirements and all buildings meet the minimum setback requirementa
and both sewer and water servtces are avaitable in the street.
Commission Member iepper asked !f Y.he house on the property was a rentai home,
Mr. Gwtazdon reptied that it was.
MSP (Haake-Bianchard) to approve Mr. G~aiazdon's request for a minur subdivision at
7655 Spring Lake Road, dividing the 165' lot into two 82.5' wide by approximately
228' deep lots. It is the policy of the City to divide a lot 165' widE equally,
so a 2' variance ~~ou1d be granted on each lot. 5 ayes
REVTEW OF SINGLE 6AMILY_DISTRICT HOMF OCCUPATION ORDINANCE
Chairpersnn Haake read Lhe Mound; View home occupation ordinance and then read the
crdinances of Crystat, Arden Hilis, Coiumbia Heights, Fridley, Spring Lake Park,
Roseville, Sliareview, Coon Rapids and Robbinsdale.
Sandra 6eaurline, 6929 Pleasant View Drfve stated that she felt that if a neighbor
had a dispute with anet.her nefghbor, that person would be in tr.~uble when requesting
permission for a home occupation.
~'' Barb Carlson, 5239 ~effrey Drive asked if beauty parlors were allowed in the present
~~ ordinance. Officiai Rose replled that beauty parlors must be approved by the State
and that one wouid 6e allowed ur.der limited business in a number of areas. Council
Member Baumgartner stated that ii is a77owed in the ordinance now, and Chairpersnn
Haake staCed that it is a7lowed with only one parking space `or a customer.
Mrs. Carlson statad that she has the perfect setup for a beauty shop in her home and
would tike to start one and would be doing is only part time and would be only having
one customer at a time.
Commission Member Zepper reported that in going through the Mounds View phone book,
he had counted at least 80 home accupations that were listed and was sure there wet~e
many that weren't 1lsted.
Mrs. Beaurline staCed that she was given a letter of permission from tl~e C1Ly in 1972
to oparate a dog grooming business out of her home, which she is sti11 doing.
Barb McC7uskey, SBO1 Long Lake Raad stated that her husband was an engineer and was
operaCing out of their home and asked what the purpose was in discussing the ordinance.
Chairperson Haake replled that the discussion had been braught up at the request of a
~erson who wanted to operate a beauty parlor out of her home.
Councilmamber Baumgartner pointed ouL that while Shoreview's ordinance was ct~sest to
- what Mounds View had in mirid, 3t did have a large loophola in allowing minor repair
>ervlces. He stated that there have been problems in Mounds View with auto repair
and washing machine repair and so forth.
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,,~.~ Commisslo~ blember Durmeister stated that she ~~~ould ha interested in knawing aihy other
r communities prohibit beauty parlors, Officfal Rose replied that many communities do
, not allow them because they feel that while Lhey might start sinall, they could easily
i grow into a larger operation and it is hard to draw the line on what is too lar~e.
Commissian hlember Zepper stated tilat the State requires a exit directiy to and from
a beauty shop. Official Rose replied that the State ~:~11 accept a door to a haliway
2o an exlt door,
Chatrperson Haake questioned if it was necessary to change the code to a11ow beautN
shops. 5he stated that the main point in atlowing or not aTlowing a beauty shop
seeried to be whether a comnercial 'hair dryer tiaas mechanical equipment customarily
found in tha home.
Comnission Fedur stated thaC the Pianning Comr.iission mertibers must consider whaC it
is that creates a nusiance. Cauncilmem6er Baumgartner replled that they must estab7lsh
what is a nusiance and what is not.
Bobby Oietz, 2612 Ridge Lane stated Chat she failed to see the importance of being
expticite as to noise or whatever and stated that the City should not discriminate
against those who might work a~ night. She also stated that the Bicentenniai Comnittee
had taken a poll, using the Mounds View phone book, and found over 80 families that
were self employed that were 11s*.ed.
Cortmission 14ember Fedor asked if ~ nusiance ordinance had been considered,
Mrs. Mc~C]uskey stated that there would have to be several cars before a nusiance com-
plaint could be filed to which the person eiould hae•e to respond.
Official Rose reported that for the people who come in to see him request4ng to have
a tiome occupation, he has to turn about 99% of them down because of some area which
would not meet the code requirements.
Commission Member Burmeister stated that she felt the Alanning Commission should have
input from those people involved, such as the neighbors and so forth.
Comnission Me~nb~r Fedor suggested that a,pecia'! use permit could be required for
home occupations that did not fit !nto the ordinance.
Offic9al Rose recommended that the Planning Coimnission could hold a hearing and make
their own decision if a conditional use permit should be granted. Then, if it tvas
denfed, Yhe applicant would have the right to go to the City ~ouncit and appeal.
Cha.irperson Haake stated that she would prefer the Councll have the finat say in
approving a11 applicatlons.
Chairperson Haa!ce advised Mrs. Carlson that she should wait before setting up a beauty
shop 9n her home until the ordinance has been def!ned and clarifled.
Commission Member fedor recommended that the Planning Commission meet to,ether w1Ch
the City Council and City Attorney and together come up with an ordinance.
c~yairperson Haake requested ~n h2h~7r of the Planning Comn9ssion that Adiainistrator
~ Achen contact Attor~ey Meyers and find out when it would be convenient foP M m to
attend an agenda meeting, at which the Planning Commission members wouid be in~oited,
to discuss with him the present home occupation ordinance and any changes that
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!~,might 6e needed to achieve some of the goals regardin9 home occupations that are
! allowed.
Councilmember Baumgartner ieft the meeting at 9:45 PM.
Official Rose asked the Planning Comnission for their authorization for a development
agreement for the duplex ta be built at tho corner tot of Edgewood and County Road
H2. Ne stated that the deVelopment agreement is needed before the developer could
star~t building and that there wus a time factor invotved.
MSP (Haake-Blanchard~, to recammend to the Council approval of the deVelopment
agr4ement for the Sunnyside Builders constructi~n of a duplux tc be located ~he
north 100' of lots 1 And 2, 81ock 1, C'learview addition, subfect to the standa~•d
' Mounds View deVelopment egreement which would include sodding, Cree plantings far
asthetic purposes, paved driveway and dual services. 4 ayes
i 1 nay
( Comnission MembNr Tep~er stated that'he had voted against the motion because when
the issue was f1rsC bt•oughC Co Che Commission the pr•evicus spring, not one of the
neic~hbors in the area came in for the meeting and he had heard they were not notified
of the meeting. Official Rose replied that it was in the C1Yy records that tiiey hed
been notified, and he had a listing of the names of the peopte who had received the
letter, all within the required 360' of the property.
Official Rose reported that he had received notice from the Eq8 on the 0'Neil property
'~~ and that they approved the negative findings.
J MSP (Zepper-Blanchatd) to ad~ourn the meeting at 10:00 PM. 5 ayes
Respectfully submitted,
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