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A regutar meetinq uf the tY.~nde Viecv Planning Oa2miseion wae called to oxtiter at
7~30 PM rn MarCh 22, 1978 at the M~utde View City Hall, 2901 Highhmy 10, bbun3e
View~ l4lnt~eeo~a.
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O.rtndseiai M~nber Maekeben
0.~-nisaim Menber Fedor
Ctrrtnl3aia~ Ma~ber Bm.~eister
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Ox~miesirn Mmrber Blanchazd
Aleo Present:
O~UIIO~]]IItlf~7Er BdlERJ8Y'171PS
Building and Zaaing OfEicial tbes
MemUera Absent;
Cacmiesion PienUer Glazer
Ocmnisaion bkmber Foss
ci~airparsm Haake statecl that Canniseion bktnber Nbsa ~uld bc+ joining the meeting
at eppxc+otimately 8 z 00.
(~airparaat liaake aeked that the mitiutes of the Mazch 8, 1976 meeting be carrecte~i
tn xearS Ootmty Cuad J. rather tHart dounty I~sd T on page 2, and that PeCex Sen~~t'e
addxees be wzzected to m.ad 2268 ICrioll Drive rn page 3, at~d thati the motirn m page
'~,6 be chanqed b~ rnad local citizens rathar than vocal.
`~WtriciLrc~nber 8aisngaz~tner asked that the tl~ird L~aragraPh ai page 1, under Project
197a-1 be corrected to L+e~d a seven year stoxm ratt~er t,han 50 year.
NL4p (Bwaneister-Blanchazcil to appmve the Mar.ch 8, 197B minutes as carreeted. 5 ayes
e~u,roR s[IDO~asraa tm4~.~sm oF ~rnt ~;arsrno - 837a r?~~N,~ vxrxa.__
OEficial Rose repozted that the applicant hazi first aulmitt,er7 hia request W the
City in 1977 end that the Plannim~ Qzemisaim first ~vl.ewed it ac~ Dece~bar lA, 1977
attl that the Pla¢~n3mJ Oam~Lsaim k~ad reartm~.nded tha Oouucil deny it becauee oY. Yhe
autlots. Zt~e tXwncil aebed upon the requeat rn E~J~ruzuy 13, 1978 and ap(~nrnred a
pzel{minnr~. plat of Pleasant Acres includinq aN.y the pn,perty lnbellc~ H1oGc 3 in
t]1e pzcposed plat. and sta6ed that Bloclcs 1 aoxl 2 must be revieeei to ellmiuate all
outlots and reaulmttteci as a separate subdivision reqt~at. Thus,'the a~ppllcFattt w~s
be£are thE Plannim3 Oonmiesiazi again with a prelimin~y Plat wlthout the outlots.
Official Rr~e etated that the appllcanE mast be requixed to eulmit a letter Eran the
oomaca of Iat 4, Blodc 1 caneenting to the ~plihting of their pzoperty. Hc3 added
t2~at ha had tried tn oontact the awner withwt succesa. Official Ibse also stated
tlwt the Oa:nty haa ataGed that they will a~row a plattimj of non-adjoining
gxoperties as the plat xepresente, tl»ugh it is not usual.
0.~tmission Maaber Glazer joinEd the meeting at this time.
~~...i Me. Harstad atc+tad that all lots in the pl.an meet oode requiren~ts.
Ocwncilmenber Sawigartner explained that while Bl,ock 3 waa appraved for subdivision
ns~~n z2, ie~e
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at tha last Citl Cwncil meeting, Block 1 wae der~ied hecausfs of Ir.t 4 belonging ~
~Mr. R~den1uist, along with the autlote on &l.oek 1 and Bla^.k 2.
Mr. Haretad etat.ed that t~rc. Ia~senquiat hes agreed to sell the proper.ty neceaeary to
nake the lote.
Oomniseion MeiSxr ~xmeieter statxl that ehe did mt underatand why a lettps had rat
been presentec7 to the City alrsady eayinq ihat the neceasary ]and would ba sold, as
it hazl been rec~uested oE Mr. t{arstarl. t4r. Harekad replied that he had not been told
a lettcjr wae needed.
~nniseion ManUer Alanct~l questio~ed if the Planning Camiiseian could apprarc+ a
subdivisirn oP pmFsrty that was mt even owned by the applicant. Of.ficial Aooe
re~litxl ttut he had not x~equeated a letter fraa Mr. Harstad eariier as ttp Posencp~iat'a
xere at the public hec~riny atd did mt epeak up againat the sutdiviai~, nnd tha!:
I~h. Harstar] had assured him the It~seix~uist's t.ere willing to sell the pro~'ty. He
addcid that tlte aubc~ivlsi~ could .mt bo approved witlrnit Mr. :iarstarl punchaeing
pmperty Et~n ttte R~senqui.~c's, and that the appmval wauld br~ contilxJent upon
aeceipt of e letter fxom the IbsQnguist's and the sale of tlte pm~x:rty.
CJfflcial 3~s+~ add~l tliat the Oouhcil was c~c:Pxnei with t~e platting of non-cwitiguous
parcels i~ut that the Nunty has stated tli.3t they will apprave the platting
of ran-adjoinin4 P~~Y•
M~p {Mackeben-E~r) ta xeoamm~d to thd Oouncil apQmval of Kettli Harstad's pre-
liml.tiary plat of 10/20/77, revised 1/17f76 and 2/23/7& faz Hlock 1 arrl 731cxJ: 2,
„-.,, ~tingait upon a written letter to the City fran the owner of the pmperty oon-
i ~tained in ela~c 1, Mr. ~eenquiat, arci m~bject to a final developnent agreement at
~4,~tha time of the signing of t:he Llnal plat. F R1"eB
VARi1fr1CE RF7p06,Si' C&' GEOIiL~ II~fE[tIC1S - 7390 SILVER LAI~ ?74T~i7
Official R~se xeportecl that tUe applicant xece~itly l~ought a new hane at 7390 Si,lver
Iake Ibad ard has requested to place a horse shoe driveway onto Silver L~ice l~rad,
while tl~e [+btmds View dode only allowa one cur.b cut per single fFUn;.ly lot.
Official R~ee added that Sec. 40.7, 8j states that single femfly uses sha11 be limitod
to one curb cut ~ss per pzoperty unlese, upai applicaticn for a varience of tliie
restrlction, the Baar.d of Pdjuabmnt ar~d Apoeal firc]s khat it ie in tha intereat of
publlc eafety to waive euch. F[c~ added l•hat Mr. rirerick has provided ~ sketch atnwing
the requeated Mree shoe drive, and that the locatim and widths meet oode r3quirenents.
[ie also added that Silver Lake Tmad is a heavil,y traveled residential minor arteria'l.
Mr. l~ier}.c1c atated that he vmAd like ~ put in the horss shoe drive mainly for ea£ety
rnnsrns sr.c1 that he felt tl~e hnrse shoe drive ca~uld nat deter fmn hie property.
Osmiseim Manber ~edox nsked if the Plannir~g Ocmniseion had previwesly appLwed a
i~ozse elme drive .For ear~eone. tl~airpex~eai Haako replied that there ia a horse eMe
drive in Mounde View that hae been in Por sane tin~e. She alsa added thah if the
Planning IXmniesioai vms goir~g to apprwe tM req~st, quidelinea ehould be writt.en
inbo the ozdinanoe.
KS2 (Hurnieister-Glezer) that the Planning Cacmiseirn, Acti.ng as a Boaxd of Rdjusiarent
~d[1d Appaalt3~ grallte Yhe VarlenCe Lequeet oE C~eoxge FlfYerlCice 7390 S5.1Ver Iake Ia~ed for
a horse ehoe drive, althatgh the City Cbde tuider ;ec. 90.7, 8j etatJes cmly ot~e curU
cut per a~ngle £amily t~atie, Silver Lake St~a3 ie ciesignated ae a mistor arterial ~l,
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anc for eaEety £aatnra. I» tho intereet of publia eataty, a drivecusy of thie ~]eaign
~vriair.fi cwul/.t have twe9 curb cuta, is rmre feasible. 6 ayee
VARIANCE ImpJE3P OF GAFa! GOLdiAFt - 7400 9ILU$R I,1it~ A74D
t?fficial Fbee reporked that Mr. c3~sham wae nequestinq tha eame variancs that t~.
b]rorick had and the tvro were neighhoi-e ~ an3 that t~. Gorhaon' a hane ha~l been built for eele.
Mr. Gnrham etated that he v.wl.d lilcn to put in a h~ox'x'es elx~e drive becauae he tw8
had a back-axrnttid dri~e is~ th4 past and felt a haree ahoe t+ould be mach aafar, not
rnly for the amar o£ tf~e hane, but• also for vieitors.
t+1,P (SUrn~leter~Glazer) that the Planning O~miseirn, acting ae a Ha1rd of Pdiust-
ment and Appeals, grc+nts the varlanoe zeguest of Gacy Gorh~n, 7400 Siiver Lake Ibad
for a horse ohoe drive. Alttrnx3h thti City ~ under Sec. 40.7, 8j etates cnl.y one
cuzb cut per eingle .family hare, silvar Lake taxd is designats~3 as n mirar arterial
ma~i, azri for safety factora. in the interest of public eafety, a dr1v~,.ay bf thie
deaign whi.ch i.wl~ hsve two curb cuts, is mare Eeasible. 6 ayes
MA70R S!&)D2VISIW I&~.IIST ~' EIGR~ER BUZLIEFL4, INC. - 23&1 CCUM'Y 'id~B I
Of.ficial it~se reported that tha applicant has requaeted a~rproval oE a reviecd pre-
liminazy plat ca~msietilr3 of 21 Sota, of which 5 are R-2 and 16 are t~1. OEfiaial
A~se stated that the app]ican'c had been before t~~e P1annL'~g Cu~nlesion esrller,
~"~,on Januazy 25, 1978, w111~ a rc~queat £or 23 lote, of which fiva required rezoning,
,~ f and which the W~anieaicut t~Sl~ until th~ a~pl.ic~nk worcked out eane of the prableos,
and again on Fk~,vary B, 1978, with a redrawn plat with a looped roacl rrysten and
22 lots, which the Planni~ Camzieelon denied ~t that time.
Offlcial T~ee stated that in additim to the plannirg consideratims cavera3 earlier
when the donmtesion had revies~ed the requpeta, the applicant is requesting rezaaLx,~
of the five undeveloped lots fmnting 0.unty laoad I, and thist all lote meet ax~ea a~x3
square footage rc~~izt~miits with th4 exception of Lat 3 and 7nt 12, eloclc 1, who~
widths in the allowable ]wildable area are rot 85' and 100' respectively. F!e added
that the applicant miat aMw the future s~~t~division line &rr Ivt 6, Dlock 1 as it
cen be aubdivi.decl furttnr with the cul-de-eac extensl~ into thA ProprstY W tha ~rth,
Official I3~se re~oL~ted that the sprlicant~s p2at sh~ws a looped cul-fie-eac with a
di.vldec7 meens of aaoess. mhf ~ daubie driye aooesg v.wld cat ef£ectively prwide ku,o
acoesses iror emer9~~Y P~'Ewses and that a greater se~zation vxwld be ne~.bseary.
He added that it would also present eafety pr~blems. as both entrancea oouid at scire
time be blocked. He also stated that the dwble drive aa.ess t~ould be haxd tn maintain
wlrn smw plowiny and that any landsc~p;ng on the rbuble drive aeparatiai ielarrl wou]rl
have tn be maintained, which v.ould be i~ractia~l srul would bi.=oai~e a nuieance £nr tl~
City Go maintain.
Officlal Pc;se statad that a dovble drive acceas waild Iz.~orn~e an addit3one7. Fblioe
probl?m t~ trafilc arui iiuioa..:Q .:~~aa :r.d tl:e r+_ty w,Zi~; ~'ire. ES:gineering attd
Plannixq azparlments ooncvr w~ the probiem~.
Offir.ial Ii~se aleo zeportsd hhat tha prqx~sed mtui ease+t~s~t to the pmperty to the
~ north ie 50' and dua to the length of the pmpoeed cul-de-eac and the servicea needed,
50' twuld be w:.ficient aid a varianck hvuld be tequireG.
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Official Pbae etai•ed ~t the water ~in ta~ald hav~e to be looped to Edye~,AOd Driva
~nnd not to itaelf, anc9 that Stisff rewrcrerds that it o~r~L-~ iwioe at E&jexood Drivc3.
He ac39ed that a petitirn Por the itmrovc~nent of Fdqewood ~ive t~vuld be zr~uizecl.
OPficial tbee atate8 that tlie pznperty hae a high-ground water table irdidated by
t}~a eoil teats and that a flniahed grade plan, inoiuding baee~rnt floor elevatiai,
munt be eutrnitted for Engineering ap~avat before patmite wwld be iseued. 6taff
zecomnmicis a aidewelk impzwa~ent alcng Oowty R~ad i, ct mLnx artarial. 'lhe
applicant plane to inetall hie own eervices under khe City'a approval a~id i~~apeutirn.
Offioial, Poee pree~nted a eketch plen that Etaff had dravm up, etx.wing how fxcm the
CitY's parepa~ive, the land oouLd beat be deveJ.oped. The skatch iraludea 22 lots,
all oP which oo¢~fotm tia oode and does have a o~nfotming ac~ess, with the
t~ acoeeeee spaced far enaxgenoiea. The propoead aketch ~a.uld nls~ ~abla the City
t~ mxinkain ttye etreet syekem with minir.mm ~eeds and raducea tho traffic and
nuieanee Fnlicing ~roblens. The ~li.ce, Fire, E,Y~gineering arrl Pkk~nning 8epathnente
ooncur wlth tira eket-.ah an1 hava atrurgly sdvis~7 it. Cffici~ [a^*ie ads]~rl +hat the
gareure located on Lot 12 oculd be relocated to eide alang tha flouse and that the cost
of tlie relocaticn »ould be mini~nal and c,vuld be offset by the addi.tirnal lr~t pr.o-
vided by the skatch,
Mr. Oleon stated that he preferred hie drawirc~ wer Staffe sinae hie drawing pro-
vides irpre cU3ptsi for the lola. He added that his re~isecl plan would px~vide for
tNO laea lote than his original plan and even tlwugh Staffe plan wnulci provifle
cne trore lctt, he did riot feel thoee lote t.wld Ue desirer~le.
~~hi fl bu~t that he felt with ttse c3oub e acceae adequaceFinan waAd ~ provi3ed. Heffia
"°"' ndded that he hea h~d cul-do-eacs before that were laiger end had more lots than
hie pxoposeci plan.
aa!miaeien Manber Fbsa enterecl the meeting at thie time.
Mr. Oleon stated that maintenrince of the island oould Ue a problen but that it could
be t~orked out. He ad3ed that it aould ba larr]ecaped v.d4h sanething that would requtre
no care, such as m:.k, and that ho did mt feel i.t would be a pmbla~~ ~vitl~
hydraulias with the water line for the ~ire Dep;u~tment.
CYnmissicn Manbe~r [~ckeben queati~ed what had been ctiaziged in the plan betNeen the
firat and eecrnd timee it was presented to the Plannirg Camiieeiwi. OfEicisl li~se
ivplled kfu~t• the first time there were 14 or 15 substaz~datid lots and t]~at the secmd
time many chanqee had been mede but tl~e p7.an wt~e etill not up to confarmance.
Mr. Eigenhear sY.ake3 that they had cancelled the public hearing becauee ot tne water
main pmblan. k#a also atated that he Eelt the plan was detrirtentel to the a3joini~x~
Pmp~rtY owrters. ae preec~ted by Btnff, as thxro wwld be +iery are7.1 twck yarde. He
atated that he felt the whole plan wwld be depxec~ated by that.
t~. E1aeN~eer etated that the ialend oouid be aephelted to elimtnaka maintenance
problems bu_ that ha felt it wouZ3 brj unique to have ehzuba ur a xroch gazden on it.
Ha sloo addetl that ha t.oulfl be abla to serve aYl the frant lota withwt going
nz~w~d the trater mein with hie p]an, and wwLd only hacre to E111 ir: ane lot.
~~,,,,,i Mr. Eigcu~hear xeparted that urr3er the cantract on which he puzchaeei9 the E~'~Y'~
the pzeperty owner w1th the garage 81d ncrt want the aarage mare3. He added that he
hed hie plnn deeignod eo ae to Mw prr,~ez~ aet-baclc fran the etxeat.
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tAr. Oleon presented the sketch plans and prelintinr~ry p].ate that had elready gaie
~heEore the Plsnning Q~nmiesim Eor tlx~ir ravickt and in9lcated how each hr~d etsanged.
~He stated that he believed tlta treffia problene oould be wcuked out rrlth 3taff end
presented a sketch ~f the plarured traPEio pattern vul etatell that tho majority af
the traffic wou].d be &r.in the zesiden4s of the ~evelopnt~nt.
osrmiseior~ Mac~er Fbes queetioned what the Fire Depatmenti's objer.~rion xwla be to
the plan Mr. Eige~il~eer praec~nted. Official Ibse replied that Che Fire Departmait's
pmb2en ie that they do not like to eee a eingu]rs acce3s into an area of that type
and that they would prefer to eee two aatnectione. Fie ad8ed hhat the Poli.~ Depatt'
ment fnreees pxoblens with oontrolling traf.fic arn9 nuieance xmnlaints.
officia]. Ii~se a~kled that tl~e island ux~uld have to he m3intained and hhat the City
nnat likoly L•i the futur9 c~auld have ~ow plvaing turned over to tha^. ~ran the
C`~unty, And thus sltiould kc~ep developrtier~ts eaey to rnaintain.
Cknmiseion t".~iber Hurn~eister Fvint~d eut thati problens the City c~cperienced tv,o years
ago w}r.n the storni liit tJ~e trui2er park nnd there w3e anly ane accees.
Official I~ etated that Staff'e pmposa7. triea bo match up xoad d ptha as e]osz2y
as pos~ible. He sleo poir.ted out: that• Lots 15 and 2 uwld e~e the hesdlights of
anya~e driving inYC t]~ davelo~nent at niyht. He aleo atated t•hat Staff's p~an was
presented 6o Mr. Pigerilmer )x£ore Mr. Eigeni~eer suYmitted hia present ~lan, so that
Mr. Eigenheer was aware of the optirne.
t~. Eig~r}~er staGOd that the entsance could be widened tut that he did not feel
~~'°'\ anytlilng oould happen tliat the entrance could not tsandled as far as acc~e~s.
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"' Mr, oleon ataiid tliat }ie dl3 iwt Eeal tt~re ~,nuld be a prablen wii:h nuisance
prohlgns. lie added that he felt Staff wae tzying tn diatate F;~w an a.:me* 9h!~uld
develop his pmperty.
ornmi.seion Diertd~er Mackeben stated t~at he had a ha~t time eeeing a rsafety prcblan
witn a 100' opening into the developmnt but that he did ~cel the center island
aould poasibly pzeaent pxotalens. He added that in other citiea tha neigh6osa
maintain the isiands, which ~.ca.il.d be a calc~ilated risk the City maybo sfnuld or
~hx~ld not take. He also pointed wt that 10 of the 21 hanee in the dcnnelo~.~nent
c~ould haw sweas fran othez roads.
Mr. Olaon stated ttw+, one of the zeae~r,.~ for tYia wide ~ter is7.and c~wld Ix3 to
~mvide a p7.ace to put Yhe sr~. tie a&1e?, that it would be designsci laa c~ough
that e~x~ency vehicles could d~cive over it.
CUmii.saian Member Fedor questimed how wide the eta.eots wwld be aming into the
developrent. Mr. Olson reF,lied that tttiay Hou7.ci be appmximztely 24' . wiih tvx~
12° lanea, with lOG' of right-oE-wey. He added that 28' ca~uld be uaed up t~y the
boulevard, which ~.ould leave 72' of driv~cvay. He also atuted that he felt the
isl~d would be asthetically pleasing.
s•SP (Fedor-Fbae} to reoartmsui tp thy City Crnmcil that they apprare hhe majoz
sulidivisi,rn xequest oi Eiycnks^cr eui.ldera, Inc, locatAd at 2331 Wimty I~ I ae
preeertted an the preliminary plat dated 3/15/78 a~i to re~u~~ikn3 thaL L;tc 10,
~ l1, 12, I4 and 27 be rezoned fmm R-1 to R-2 and aleo to grant a varianca of 5'
`,.,/alalg Lot 3, Hlx1c 1 And 10' a~ Int 12, Block 1 anc9 a variance for the 50' stxeet
right-of-way to the rwz~thern property. 6 ayea
1 nay
dcmniesiocier DY~nber Duxmeister voted nay on the motion, feelinry there is a
saf.ety and nuisance problc3n with the prooosed access.
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t~ltT AC~~A FND PT~'1IIOU8 'TPY CC1I~lCIL AGTICNS
~, .. + oamoiLna~~+r eaungartner reported hhat the oouncil approved the re~ueet o4 xen
gjodin 4or a euhaivision e1~xxJ ~mveluri Aced azd N.~den~ atknut~~ es ~ t
tha Plenning Oa~mieeim ~r ~~~ vss alx'endY
p~opartiy to ht~e eaet and 1E the roed awld have been wttsnded fmn Azdrn to IaPOrt~
there watld anly ltatve 1~~ tao prcpert7( an~i w1 11,~ ~~e~ti~ thntr ~
and thus the eost wa+ld have been ~PPmacitm Y S P~
the poesibility o! n walkwaY had b~ee~i~th~°~ ° d denide to put it in.~ the
30 caean.m~t fran !ha otl~er pt'ape Y
orEioiel. Poee x~or~e~ ~t tt~e ME+rn~nta eowling ril.ley apPeare to be oPi khe qso~nK1
egain end *3~at tlfe Plannir+q O~~miseion v,wld be reviewin4 the P~ at thair next maetin4•
p~m~i]ma+~r ga~ isft ths maeting at 9s00 PM.
At thie point the Ctam~ieeia~ere oaitinued t]~B~' ~~g ~~e~ ~~eim oE
tha 7anin9 Me~ a~1 ~4e of tha 0.mPrehsnaive Plto the Oounci~lP~ ~f ~~ile
variaue aphSaie and d~an4ea theY w~7~3 reoam~end
t~se qrticne and eu998etia~e and sula~dt a final draft for tha Oanmieeianexs reviaw
at their na~ct naqularly echeduled meeting.
at 10:40 PM. ~ $~1B
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