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Home My WebLink About1978-10-25 PC Minutes PP.OCEEATNGS OF THE PLANNING COMMT3SION CITY OF MOUNOS VIEW r RAMS~:Y GUCINTY, AIINNEGOTA A regular meeting of the Mounda View Planning Comni.seion wae called to order by Acting Chairpareon Fedor at 7;45 PM on Oetober 25, 1978 at the Mounde View City Hall, 240J. }lighway 10, Mounda View, Minneeota 55112. Membera Preaent; Actinrt Chairperaon Fedor Commineicn Member Burmeietar. Covunieeion Member Foes Comniaai.on Member Glazer Commiesian Member Quan Also Present: Building a~ld Zoning Of.ficial Rose Membara Abeent: Cheirpereon tlaake Coaunisaion *iember Blanchard Official Rose stated that Chairperaon Hsake and Comm~.seion Member Blanchard had notified him they would be ;Joining the meeting ].ater, Acting Chnirpereon Fedor atated that the September 13, 1978 minukes were a~rproved ae read. Ufficial Raee reported that Staff ie putting to~ether a pollcy ou etreet lighting due to the increasing frequency that Couttcil is getting requPats for etreet lighta,in other areas other than the priority area where they have been placed before. Ae added that in order to put 1i.ghts in eyatem- ntically, a policy shauld be establiehed. Official Hose presented Che Coimniasion Membere with s mep oE the Ciey, ahowing the location of exieti.ng etreet lighta. He added that he will be getting a map from NSP, ehowing the aize oE each bulb at eaah fixture. Chairperaon Haake and Cammieaion Member Blanchard joined the meeting at khie time. Commiseinn Member Glazer asked tf the~ City was receiving more requeaCa for etreet lighr.e than they could handlo. Official Rcse replied that they were not getting more Chun they could handle, but that they wexe g~.tting requeate and if they were approved without any criteria, the City could get awamped wiCh requeste for street lighte. He added that the lishting bill £c,r th~ City ie projected to be $18,000+ in 1979 and that they muet cantrol 1t, Commieaion Member Glazer reco~¢nended setting a reeCriction on ltow cloee the lighta enuld be to one another, to avoid ending up wikh lights all ovet thc City. .:fici,al Roee etated that Staff wauld like to outline L•he prioriti.ea on ~iow thfl 7.ighr.ing woulr? be approved. Offici.al Roae preaented a eurvey of several other cities in the metropolitan area, ehowing wkat thelr requiremente were for etraet 2lghte, ~ Octdber 25, 1978 Paga 2 ~-~pmmieel~n Membot Quan aeked if ChaYe were problem areae, OE£i~iel Roae :pli~d that he had epoken Co tli~ Police Chief and there r~ere no problem ..reea more typical than othere in tha City. Commiseion Member Burmeieter aaked how much iaput NSP hae into atireet lighting. Official Rose replied th~k Chey are mora than willing to put up a etreet Iight iE ehere ie s pole in alresdy. H~ added that NSP ie revieing their figures ta give .a summary oE the coete involved. Connaisalon Dtember Blanchard etated that several yeare ago NSP did a eurvey of the CiCy and pro,jected tha atreet lighting requirementa. Official Rose replied that he would check with NSP but there was no indication of any aurvey in the City's fiJ.ee. Commiaeion Member Burmeieter staCed that with aome oE the new additione ~oing in in the City, there were long Ulocke that might need ndditional lighting on them. Chairpereon Haake atated ehe f.elt a priority syeL•em ehould be eatabliehed, siwilar to the one Fridley nses, with priority being placed on intereectione, eharp curves, dead ends and cul-de-eaco, long blocks and vandalized areas. Commission•Member Fose aaked if the City could select the atyle of light fixCUre to go ia, Official Rose replied tha~ about the only input the City hae is to tell NSP how long to make the arm on the fixt;ure. i~mmisaion Member Fedor etated he liked the priorities rridley uaes and ~..at ha fclt they =hould also add echools to thst pricrt.tp list, p,+iC21 approximately a 400' minimum between fixtures. Commiaeion rt~mber BurmeleCer added thaC she felt a petitiott. should etill. be requ±red for the, lights. Commiesion Member Fedor auggested that the City conduct a aurvey after a petition ie received and if it meets the 400' mirimnm, ehen aee it it meeta the list of priorities. MSP (puan-Haake) to make a reco~endation to Staff that the criteria for tite atreet lightiag ordinance include having s minimum of 400' between 1lghta, a atudy be done only after a petition ie received for those affected, a priority syaCem be set up to include lntersections, eharp curvee, de~d enda and cul-de-aace, lang blocke, vandalized areas and areae of public concern and safety. 7Che ordinance ehoal.d take into account the wattage, that the etreet light be appropriate and cosL• effective f.or the areu. 7 ayes Commieaion Member Foae atated he felt ehey ehould also allow orne~nental sighting, wir,h the coat to be shar~d by the property ownere. Co¢m~iseion Member Glazer atated he did not feel a priority eystem ahould be eet bat ratt~er give the prtoritiea au examplea u~on which requesta could be based. He added that he did not want to see the. prlorities in any order. MJP (Glezer-Burmeister) to smend Lhe previoue motion tp say guideiines • ~ther thaa pzioritiea. 7 ayes icy~„/ ~ . ..~ .. :,l ' . .. . .:~. , .. ;.:, _., r.: ,. ~ , ~ .. , ~~ ~t•~,~~..~~-w~'y : ~ October 25, 1978 PBg~ 3 ~~OENDA AND P:2EV20U3 CIT.Y COUNQIL ACT70N3 ~~A'~fficigl Roee re orted that tha Planning Coamiieeinn would be diecueeing the street light~ng ardinanca and an amendroent to tho trailer ordinance at their next maeCing. Commleeion Member Cilazer etated that he thaughe the Towns Edge Trailer Perk had a limit of 200 unite when they were eetabliehed but they now appeax to have more. Official Aooe replied that to hia knowladge, they had noC gone over their limiC but thar he would check into it. Coumiinaiutt tdzmber olazer recor~unan3ed that Che Fla:ining Coumiiesion work wi~ti tha zaning code and breek it duwn eo it ie much more definitativa, eepao~ally for "B" zoning. Chairperaon Haeke ataeed ehey could etudy the iaeue and diecuse it at t_he next meeting, " Comm3.esi.un Member Glazer steted that he had viawed one double bungelow under R-2 zoning and that he wa~ concerned wi.th iC'e apartment-like appeHrance, Official Raee r.eplf.od that the ma~ority of double bungelowe being built in the City were very attracCive and appeared to be one family homea. He added that the City cannot dictate the style of'a building. ' Commieeion Member Burmeieear aeked if the 3even-Eleven property riad been downzoned. O~E1a,:La1 Roae repJ.Led that it had. i ~i-v~p (n~~n-glflnchard) to ad~ourn the meeting at 8:45 PM. 7 ayes '~-% , Respectfully,,euUmitted, ~ Pamala -0ase ' ~ Recording Secretary ; ~ ~ , ~ ' :~_ _ ".~; ,:~,.,. V ~ _ ~;' , , , ~ ,~,` ~ ~i ~. ~ ~ ~r~,; ~ i +, , . .:~.. , iI . ~ ~ ., . ~ _ _ , ~ ' ~ . ' ~ , '~ _......,. . .,~.._.. _..,., ... ............ ~ Rw~ ~ n , u-„ ,.,. .. . _ . . .,.