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A r~eulaz maetiag oF eho Mouade Vlnw Plsnni¢g Cammieeion wae callad ta
order hy Chaitpar~on flAake at 7s30 pH on May 23, 1979 at tha Hounda Vlew
ClCy Aall, 2401 ~ighNay 10, Mouads Viaw MN 55112.
AL80 PR888NTt
NSMBBRB pREBRNTs Oouncilmsmber Forslund
CLairpar~oa Haake euilding 3 2oniqg O.Pflnial Aose
Commie~ion Namber H2anchard
Aammieeion Mambet Fedar MSMBSAS A888 T(axcusmd)
Commiuiop Mambar Olaaar Oummi~i~on NambaY Peaumora
Commi~rlao Mamber Quan Oommiseion M~mbar Ooabal
Commireion Haober Durmaieter
Commieoion Manber Pore (unaxcueed)
Chsirpareon Uaeka auggaot~d tho folloui¢g correcCioa nt Che K~q 4, 2979
minuCae: Oa paga 4, undar #7, aeco¢d 1lna, change. . botwaen 6ounty koad
H and O1~ Cantrsl. , to raed as followe: .. ou Couaty Road I betweeq
Highxay 10 and Otd Ceaeral.
NSP (Haak~/4uan) eha mtnutea of Mgy 9, 1979 bo approvad as correct~d.
5 ayas
~ Offioial Roea reviewad the propoead plan. McDo¢aYd's, 7,ocated at 2201
~; Hig4pay YU~ 6as zaqueetad the addition of a driva-through e~rvica M~.M.dOM.
~ TLe ox~sking eouing Le A-4, 8anaral Bueinesa Shoppiug Caatar. ~xiating
usa, ae v~ll ae addition r~qaest uaega, would 6e Conditional Uoe, H-3.
~, Tha laqd use map de¢otas the area as Highway Commsrcial. Parking re9uiras
Lt 73-9§'x 20' and 2-Y2' x 20' epacae for Aendiaapped. Tha latter ia eot
~;, ehown oa HcDo~ald'e propoeed plan; however, the plaq cauld b• modSfied to
' provide 71-9' x 20' spacme aad tao 12' x 20' epacea. Their pian ehows the
, required 30-foot aide corxidar for emerge¢cy vehicle ueaga, a0 well ae
r; praviding for 6 vehlcl• etacking for pick-up et the driva-in ~indow.
'' Ordinenca 40.04~ 8ubd:vielon 0, raquiree either 6-8 foot fenca or berm
npproxlmsCe2y S Eaet high tor ecraeaing. Tha soning map shavs Cha arca
" to the eaet to ba commarcial, although 9taff canuot distinguieh whethrr
2h~ asa: to the west ia eingle Pemily or commercial. There ie an exieCiag
housc to t4a wast uow. If tha zooe is reaidential, a 10-foot eatbaok Se
ii requizad{ wLeteae if the zona if commercial, only a 5-foot eatback ie
required. xh~ applicant is preeantly eho~lag a 7.5-fooC o~tback on the
plmn. Sknff recommonde a Fonce be extendnd eo screeu ~he eiogle frmily
homa. TLa davelopment vould creaCe additions: ru¢-off. Tha dralaaga
district at full developm~nh eou'id ba iaedequrte Eor Ch.u~-year etorm.
Ef tha additioa is slloued, the devnlopmaat agceament should lueludo
ecreanin~, perking epaca matkiGgt, aanc*«te cuzb and gutCar, aad eigo~~e;
~~ and a bond ehould encompasa theee reqairemeate per tbolY vaiuetioq.
~r. S[eve Simpaoc, reprasenting rieDonald's, added ehat KcDOneld'e Se
willing to comply with whatevec the city sequizes.
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ahairparao¢ H~~ke quasCioned what percentaga of HeDonald'e bualnaea wo~~ld
be eetimstad to uee the drive-Chrough vindoW. Mr~ Bi~psoa rapliad it aould
~ ~ha npproximetaly 1/3 oE Lhair busiaaee. Ho want on to edd Chat, £or thie
/' ~eason, thay could probably uee leno parking spacea. He addad thet !ha
' layout ir axCremaly elarn with no cuekomar tra£f!c croesing lanaa oF
Aigbw~y 10 sinc• KcDonxld'e ie locaC~d oc an ~xiCj the enEranca would be
to tha e~~t end axl.t !o tha waet. lta Pa~le the eame cusEomere thet •at
Snside w,i;ld contiaua uns tha drlve~throuQh aill ptovida additional serviae.
Chairpatson Naaka aakad whether the owner oF the houea next doot 6~d ~aen
tuformad oP Cha propoNal. Hr. Bimpson rapl4ad thmy hava pariodically
kalked to tha r~~idenE and fsel thay have a guod relatlonehip, but hevu
not lnPormad him of tho propnaed ^ddltion as yet.
It wae th~ geaaeal famling a£ the Pl~nnirtg Commiaeioa thae thie reoldent
ehould ba SnFarmed and iutita3 by tha Pl~nning Commiseton to voice hie
commenta or obJactions.
Cheirpetaon Haeke comaent~d tha gxaen apaca batamen Che houea apd MuDonsld'e
vaa good and suggested Che hcight af tke Eance ba ~aareaeed, perhapa to
Chc meafmum 8 faea L•o screan ae much noiae ae poseible. Mr. Bimpeon
ladlcat4d tpey uouid b• willtng to ecrea¢, berm, etc. wh~teser tha cf.ty
requirss of thum. 8a sCaCed Chay would oika to know if zhe ~eCbacM re~
quiramont vauld ba 10 Peat or 5 feaC.
Nr. Bimpsoa fslt thare would be little dieturbance to tha reeideut froa
xigdts, that Che ~aio oM~ectioa would be cere going Chrough. Ghairperaon
Heake auggneted Ehe noiee, aspecially in the e~mmar, could ba a r¢al
~iieturbaar.e,
MSP (Olasar/Quan) to tabld tha requeee Sor HcDonald's drlv~-[hrough vindow
nddition~ abuttieg raeldaotLal proparty~ uctil that teaident is Pozmally
qotified. Tha raqusak rhould ba placad oa tha June 6 meaCing agende, with
tha rssident baing invited to expraes his viawe at that time.
5 ayee
MINQ~ SOBDL9I3ION~-HAYPO$T BUILDBA6--7749 GBSSNWOOD D&IV6
OfEir.3a1 Roae raviawed the proposad plan ac followa: Baypor[ Buildars
propoea to eubdivida 7749 Uroanwood Drive fsom one lot i¢to :ao. T6e
area dae baen before tha pianniug Commiasion befora when tha applicant
praviouely requaeted eubdivieian of six lote Snto ten. T6a couicg Se
niagls family and propo~ad ueaga ia for tvo siagle family h~mea. Tha lot
qiae meate requirema¢te. 9ewsr and wa[er ie available on IIroenwood Drivo.
Tha atorm eawar syetem le inadequeta Eor thran-yaas sCOrm at full devalop-
menk. Tha immediate area 4e earved by a catch b~nin ooutL oP tha proparty
on Cxaenwood Drive. Tha erea 6ae exparle¢ced stendiag vatar ~n !he etreet
duriag Laavy etorme. Davelopment of thia pronazty would incra~ea the
drainage impact.
Mc. Villalla, repreeemting Baypork Buildars, hed no FurChas oommants to
aAd te QEfieial Roae'e raport.
Commieeion Mamber Quaa queeCiuaed why they mte planaiag davelopmanC Por
- ~,tu.t thaaa t!oo loCe. Nr. Villella explalaed de holde a purchase agree-
~~rrmnnt on only C6eea two late~ H• indicated thera wsre ao plane for tha
additional srea aG thla tlma but, if the land ie atill availsble sfEsr
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complatto¢ of theea two homes, thay may purcheea tha olher loke £or
devalopma¢E, depending on eost aod property ^trucCUre. He also indicatad
he ceae evara that aode !e 82~' lota, and Chat sewar/water. have bAan
~Lubbad, two per lot, w~ich eaema to suggeet the lote aould be eplit
in half.
CUP.~SS~~06 Kamber Quaa read from Ordinaace $420.7 which w~uld raquire a
Nlaa •howing developmant of ad~oiniog property.
Mayor McCarty called attentlon to Ordiaenca 0420.5, Sublteieion 1,
B~ctiou 2, aCatiug Chat iF a property Sa bougi~t by Purchasa Agreement,
all partlae of intareat ehould be rapraaented.
HB (Ha~ke/Quan) to table this requeet by Haqport Buildera unttl the nexk
Planning Commiesioa m~eting Sune 6 uo that the Cammleeion can requaer
lnformatlon of all intereated parCiae, according Co Ordiaa¢ce 4420.5,
8ubdivleLon 1, IIectio¢ 2. Z•Yem
(Motion faile) 3 naye
Mr. Villalla indlcated thare wae only one otUer party iuvolved and tLat
wse Mr. Vano, avner of the proparty. Four monthe ago, Bappore Nulldare
a¢CereA lnto !he Purchase Agruement which hae bnea eince changed ro
purcLaee thle lot only. Aa far ae Le koowe, Mr. Veno hae nut sold tha
remaining lote.
Offlai~l &oae iadicated Chat if the Planning Commieolna deamed it
necsseary, Hr. Veno cou~d be required to epeak for the development
oE tha axaa.
~Commiesion Mewbcr Hlanchard queetioned if the Purchaea Agrnament wae
binding, would thara by anq prublem witk eubdividing lt.
Oomuioelon Mamber Fedor expreeead concarc that, if th• lot ie subdividid
~nd davaloped, the tuaoff would eauee a problam a¢d requira a differant
ntor~ eexer eyetem.
C6airpar.son flaakc expresead co¢aern that tha whola area ehouid ba con-
siderad sather than ~uot thle portion. Mr. Villella replied tia only
wanted a simple lot eplit and wae not i¢v~ived xith the remalnins area
CommieeLon Membar Fador queetionad•vhat acCioa had taken placa on Che
pr~viou~ psoposal. Mr. Vi],lolla etatad the4r proposal had beo¢ paosed
by tha Planning CommLeaicn but uevar votad on by Counell. Maqar McCarty
lndScatad tha ~ouncil had tabled ehe requ¢et until 111egally dumped dirt
could ba ramovad from the properCy e,nd, Sn Che mnantima, ehe requeet aae
withdsa~n.
H8 (Quaa/8aeke) to amend the previoue motion to requeet that City Attorney
Richard Mayer.e look into CiCy Ordinancee to nae if these would be aoy
particular problows regsrding tha raqueet o£ khie aimpla qubdivicioa or
~h~uld ik ba revi~wad Mad disaueeed as a emal2ar parcel ot a~arger
Yutura £oraaaen sabd4vision in accoxdance witd i420.7, 8ubdivieion 4,
Bectioa 2. 2 ~Y°w
(Motiou fail~) 3 naye
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Offlcial Roae !ndlcatad he hed dLecueead thie matter praviously vith Ciky
AtCOrnay ~eyera. If ehase ie a quasCion about vhet khe appllceaC ie
doLng, than tha opner may be requeeted to appear. He racommended tho
~lanni¢g Commieeion eddreee Che aubdivieion of anly oae lot.
HSP (Aeaka/Dlanchard) Go recommend to the Co~ncil thet they upprova the
minor eubdivision for Hayport Buildara at 7749 6raeowood Driva into Cao
percele, each 82.5' wida x 291' daep. 3 ayes
2 nays
Chairpereon Raaka further requeetad the documant be eubmitted to 0lty
Attorney Mnyera ao he rnn glve hie recammendation to facilite the Oounell.
Commiaeion Mnmber Glazar etated he couldn't eae that legally aayChing
more can ba rcad inko the buildere' requeet regarding d~epoaLtioa oY
the tutal area tt~an what iw boing reyueeted.
Commleeion Mambar Fedor voked ia favor of Cabliog the request eo the
'r^;auuiny Com~ieoion coa13 kave a12 iatereated partf.en enna~r, HIe Purthar
expreeeed aoncmra L•or the additional run-off created by khia development
aod quaetioned Hhatber o¢-eit¢ reCention might Fa a poeeibility. OffScial
Aoae ~odiaated there wae nothtng arirtan as yet ragardiag on-eita ratencto¢
for ,mtnor subdlvistons, but It Is a reasonable concern.
MINOR SUBDIVISION--8490 8UN[7YBIDS ROAD--RBNNBTH SJODIN
OfEicial 6aee reviawad eLe xequest. A raqueet for disposition of thie
parcel hae beeu b¢fore the Planning Gommiee~on before, ae ea irragular
haped lct aleh f2vo eidea. Tha preaenC proposal ie to break off the
6'x 90' ractangular ehapad parael to b~ added to khe lot fsonri¢g
Couuty Road J. S~Nar and watex uould not be af.feeCed; the Snta¢ded une
far the eusll area would be gardening. BEaff rncqmmende the psrcel should
be show¢ ae part of tha legal Aescrlptioo of 2708 Coun[y Roed J.
Nhan aekad by Commiaeion Membar Quan if there ie a house preeently oa
Lot $2, Mr. Sjodin replied thare ie.
Chairpereon 8aaka saked whaGher Nr. S~odin had a letter of agreemaut
and ~n indicated ha had such a leeter from Mr. Buzzell and aleo a letrer
from Hr. Petroveki inteading thie parcel bn addad to fiie domeetead.
Mr. 9iodin rteted ha didn't feal it could Ua mede a parC oE tha legal
deacriptioa, but will be pnre of hie hameateaG.
H8P (Quaa/Olazer) tu recommend to Che Couacil Chay approva the raqunet
to subdivide t6e 30' x 90' araa from 8490 Suaayeide Bond to 27U8 County
Road J, w:tk tho provlsien that tha 30' x 90' par~el be attached to the
daed., anC bacome part of the legal description~ oP 2708 County Road J.
5 ayee
HINOR SUBDIVISION--8100 C&OVSLAND 80Ab--KENN6TH SJODIN
Official Roa~ sxplained ti~o propoeed x~queet. Thie parcei of laad has
baon before the PYenning Commiseion Leforo whon ths City ehanged tha
olicy tdat any lut vith LSG feet or more eould be subdivided aqually,
~rovidad tMat all setbacks of exlsting bulldings coutd be met.
May 9, 1979
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The apNlla~nE !e ¢ow propoeing to create two lotet Loe B,77.5' wide and
200' daep, and Lol A, 258' x 230'. Lot 8 doee meet requLremanta, buC
doae aot front s eCreet~ thue crea[Lag a lend-locked parcel. Seuer aad
~aater ara evallabla for Lot A. Storw aewar ie inadequate for a three-
~ear etoam at full development. If Knollaood DrSve lo planoed for exten-
eion, a 30 foot eaeament would be requirad on the weet eida of the property
Por road easamenC purpoeee.
Mr. 8~odlq addud that l•he r.eaeon L•or requaetiug the minor eubdlvSsion ie
~o build ov the buildeble lot. He indiceted thare were sevaral land-
loaked lote !a the araa that aru dividad, Ao Purther indlcated he felt
a a0 foot eeeement would be u¢nacaesery eince he feele il'a unlikaly CUat
Knollwood Nould aver ba extended because of the praeeat inadaquate eEOrm
esver eyotan. NoNever, if the city required the 30 foot road easement,
ha uould provide far it.
Commiseion Mam6ar Bleachsrd pointed out ehae, vith the 30 foot road easo-
mant taken off Lot 8, St would becoma aa unbuildable lot. Mr. 8jodln uCated
ha pleaned ko only bu~13 on ~nt A.
Pag Mountaia questionad ehe poeeibility of a cul de eac for thia sxea.
Commiasion Hember Quan pointad out the dieadvantagee of a cul de ~ac.,
iaaccosaibility for emeryency vebiclee, for inetauon.
Comaieoiou Hembar ~lazar euggestad tha poeeibility Chat, Sf the City
grants thie oubdiviaion now on the premise that Mr. S~odin will not plan
to develop Lot B, ha msy c6anga hie mind ar eome point in tha fuCu:e and
umr• tLAr~-a'r a lovac.. Gdrget CLa road ttieougU.
haispareo¢ Hraka ques¢ioned t4e neceeeity for a 30 fooe road eawemeot
bacauea the ra~d would Qrobably tusa bafore approacLf.ng Mr. B~odin'e lot.
Mr. 6jodin again etated he iiad no problem witb providing a 3Q-foot road
eaeement bacauea he felt it would navar be needed.
148P to rocommend to the Cou¢cil Ehey approve the minor e¢bdivieion at
approximately 8100 Groveland Road inro tvo lote as presonted in the
Survayore Cartificate dated May 15, 1979. A 30 foot road eaeement alorcg
the waet eida of parcel H ehould aleo ba takeu to aid !¢ future axceee.
5 ayes
Chairparaon Harke aeked for any commente fxom the audienea.
Carl Aadsreon, 2948 YJoo3dale Dri.vu, proaentad a raqueet for varinnce
regarding placament of his pool utilit,les o¢ hie property.
Official 8o~a revteved thn Ordicanca ~40.OS, SubZivieion 4, under which
the City heb been oparating, prohibStiag pool rad pool utilitiee from
thu Erout yard, or 10 feae from rear or side lot linae. Ha indicated
tha Planoing Commiesioa could either ehanga tha Ordinance ar grent Nr.
Andareon a varlance, after Ife psy~ trie neceo.ary fae. Ha cautioned :Aat
graaCiag a variapce may saC a praaedeat for fuCUre requests.
MSP (RaskeJ6Yszar) ta grant e vazlanca ro Nr. Carl Aadarson, 2448 Wooddele
` l~rive, that he may install hie pool utllities to tha sout6eest corner of
"~Gie housa in tha side yasd. The naighbaz to tha •aot !s •pproximataly 40
feet avay oa hle garaga eidw. Bacauea of tha naighbor'a location, tha
May 9, 1979
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nuiaance fector ie negligibla. Feacing wili be bulEG around ths pool
utilitiee, ihie variaaca ie grantad contingeat on paymeut oF feee to
the Ciiy.
~e~nard M. Cichy~ 2295 Torraca Drive (corner of Tarrace Drive sud Jankoon
treat), requaste to build a nea garage on Che sit• of an exieting garsga,
which hea a eub-etrndard eat6ack accardiqg Yo pze~ent aoda.
0£ficial Roea expialnad Nr. 4 Mra. Oicby'e raqueet aad •sked the Planotng
Gommieeton to detarmiae whethez the City ehould allow tha aontiauance o£
a nop-nonforming eetback. He lndicated tt had been done i¢ the paet.
Mr. Qichy indicaCed h• had put i¢ a drivnway a year qgo that wae i£oat
~ver Cha codo requSzemeat sad a permlt had beap graatad with no problem.
Bffir.ial Aoae etated thnt d~ivaaeys fell under a differant Cype oP
eequlrr~nne•
Kra. CSchy iuquited whea tne preesnk code wae eeCabiiehed. Chairparaon
Haake informnd her that in 1959, tha coda had been chaaged, requiring s
61 foot ee6baak Erom the canCer of Chu streeC. 9he aleo AL4L6d ti~•
purpase of Che eetbsak requl.rement Le ~or vffeiUliiCy.
CUairparean Haeka adviead Mr. 6 Hre. Cichy to apply to City Na:l for a
variance o£ buildiug a nev gernge 16 feeC L•rom the curb on Che eita of
tha axieti¢g non-conforming garege. The Planning Cammiseiop vill dacida
aE that time wheCher Cha new atructure ahould ba built eacordlag eo code
or a vsriance ba granted.
Cleaiepersas 8aakr. read e bet,Ker to the Planning Commieelon from John
,~~Nnkhdra, Reaity Na4, theakiog tbem £or tt~eir efforte and their civic
~oucarn.
PLANItINO CONSllLTANT SEL~4TION
0£ticial Soen reported he had rnceived e positive reepouee from Midweat
Planning b Rneuarc~, Inc. Ha indicatad there hae beau no coeh oatimata
as yet from Iebart, Reieanberg, ChalaetTi 6 Aeeociatee, Inc., but will
rayuest euch a¢ eaCimata befora the next meating. ge disYri6utad a lateet
fzom Berton-Aachman •seociates, Inc. indicating Chey have a voskload too
heavy Co consider the riouude Viev raquest.
` Aftar a diecuneioa regardiog atten to conduct the intarvievs, lt wao
= decided that tha June 20 maetiug will begin ~c 6i~0 PM~ at whlch Cime
the Planning Commieeion vill look at the Plenning Consultant applicacta
' for devaloping a qev Comprehenaiwe Plaa, Tha first applicant w111 be
' echeduled from b:30-8:00 aad the second Prom 8:00-9t30. Any regular
~ bueiness of the Plaonlag Commieeion will be conducted after 9s30 PN.
M~P (Quan/Bla¢chard) to ad~oura tha meoting at 10:00 pN. 5 ayes
RaepacCfully eubmiCted,
Stevan A. Roso
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