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CITY OF MOUNDB VIBN
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~A ragular meetiag oF the Mounde View Plaanlug Oommieeion wse callad to
ordar by C~mmieeion Mamber Qlazer at 7t35 PM on Juue 6, 1979 at tha Hounde
Viav City 8ai1, 2401 8lghway 10, Hounds Viev HN 55112.
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Qommi~siott Hembar Bla~achard Cou¢cilmember Poraluud
Commiaeion Nember Durmeleter $nginearing Tachnician Kampel
6ammieslon Mamber Freemore
Commieaion t4amber Paee MSMSSRS AB68NT: (excused)
Commf.aeion Hember 6lazer Chalrpareo¢ Ilaake
Commieeion Hamber (3oebal Commieaien Memb~r Pador
f'ommieuion Member Quaa
MSY (Paea:Praemora) the minutae af Hay 23, 1979 ba approved. 6 ayee
CP.RA48 SBTBACR VARIANCE--L60NARll CECilY--2295 TERRACE DRTVB
Bnginaaring Tachuiclan Rampel explainad that the propaYty is locsted at
tha corner uf Terraae Drive G Jackson Drive. The coda requirea a 30-fooe
eetback fxom both Lrontagee. Tha axiating garaga bae a satback of 5.25 ft.
and the propoaed garage vould have a 7-foot eatb~;~:k. A variance of 23 Ft.
ie tharefore required. The exieting lot is 80 feaC wide, whidh ie eu~-
ataadard to ths pxeeant code requiriag 100 faet on both sCznet frontagee.
oewAnsion Member BurmeleCex iuquired why t4a nev garage couldn't ba
~can~tructed to aaet ooda. Bngiaeering Ti0CI1IlICLA6 Rampel repliad it would
greatly reduee tha applicant'e backyard. Mr. Cichy indicated it would
aleo naceeeitate thc rcmoval of a ehade tree.
kr. Cishy aeked the ~laanT.ng Commiasiao if tba 30-foot eahback vae meaear~d
fxou tha center of tbe etroet. Engineering Techcician Rampal indicatnd it
vae meaerared from the property lot liae.
Commieaiun Membar Ooebal asked hoa far tbe garaga vould be from Terrace
Driva. tir, Cichy raplled it wculd be 87 feeC.
Commiesion Kembar Burmaieter inquired vhathar tha old garage aould be t~rn
dowe. Hr. CSshy replied it vould.
Commleoion Membar Freamore i¢quired if there wae a traffic controi on
either aCreet. rir. Cichp indicated there xsa oa Terrace llriva and, in
eheir aine you:s ae rasidente, ehere hae never been an accidaot.
Commisaioa Hambar Ooebel queationed the 6-foot eeparatioa between~qarage
and house. Hz. Cichy replied the oiry raquirea the 6-foot eeparatioa.
H8P (G;azas/Poee~ to accept the applfoeat's requoet ro construct [he nev
garage ic thA •pprnximate lncatio¢ of tt~e old gaeege xith the 7-foot
setbnck £rom thA lut liaa whicU r+ould reault ia u 23-fcot variance o£
coda. 6 ayae
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Commieolon Idember ~oabei vent on to explaia that this motioq acknowledges
~thera hee been r.o hiatorical problem wiCh the tocation of tha old rtructure
wliich Se 1' 9" eluaer to the loe line. Thcra doeen't emem to ba a viable
al~arnative fox tha plaaamoa! of ehe garage aithout seriouely reduclnq Che
;; applicant's backyerd.
F DRT46WAY BBTBACR VARTANCS--RAYMOND ~ISASR--7909 SD6EWOOD BAIVE
Snglaeeriag Tachoioian Rampal exp~a.lned Chu Fishere i¢ta¢d Co pava r;~~~.~r
drivaw~y end ^ ekr~p slongeide the drive, Nhich would raeult in s 1-fooe
eetbeck aad the code rcyulrea a 5-fool• eetbnek. The pucpoee for tha paved
str,ip ie to park rocreatioael vehiclee near the gara~a. A herdship vould
ba requlrnd For e variauca of Ghe eode.
Mr. Fieher stared ehat, vithoun the additionul paved ecrig, C8u recreational
vehiclea vnuld heve to be parked half on snd half off the cameat. Ha aleo
statad he had receiwed tiin neighbor'e appruval.
CommLeeYoa Membar 9uebel expreseed consern reAardiog Che iacreaue in ~
runoff vhic& vould, ba created. Mr. Pieher lndicated their property alopae '
eo that khe weCer runs iato the eCreeh, a¢d tha ramaining vatar eeaps i¢to k
tha graund. Commteaiou Member Coebal explained thst, wil•h tha propooed
paving, more weter ~ill be runni¢g into tha etreat aod Sncreaeiog the etsain
on tha city etorm 0ewer ayetem. e
Commiesion Membar 6laaer aeked if the preeeat eituation wae intnlerablo.
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/"~~Iir. Pieher etateJ hn didn'k caxe for the eand and dizt bloxLng arouud ae ~
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~ it dnes. Commieeion Member Hurmeister questioned if Mr. Fieher had ever
coneidered put[iag in • paved dsive with a gravel e[rip elongeida. Mr.
Piaher fale that gravel wauisl not "etay ie place". Commieeion Hember i
~laser sCated hie feeling that, rith Mr. Piehe:'e 1-2X grade, the etonea ;
should sery in plaoa. ,
CommiseLoa Hamber B~;a¢c6ard recallnd a houae on Orovelaad Roed that had
blacktopped vith a 1-foot eetback and tLay 6ad to remova nnd addere to
code. Commieaion liamber Burmaisler aleo indicatnd the City hae bean
etriatly adheriag to the 5-foot eetback code.
Peg Hountsin queetioned vhethar the eade apar.ifically atatmd eubetencee.
Cnmmiselo4 Hambur Burmeleker replied the codne statee eithar blacktop or
camc¢t.
Commieaion Mambar Foae pointed out that even it the praoent neighbor
approvad of t~e propoeed drivevay, aqother owner might aok.
MSP (Goabel/BUrmeieter) to deny ehe requeeG for dr4vexay variaace ~equeer,
of Raymond Pieher st 7909 Sdbewood Drive, for lack of hardship.
6 ayes
Commission Membar Goebai waut on ta atate the Plcaai¢g Commiaeion falt
the propoeed paved drivewaq wae in violation of code, but gravel aould
i~ facG enrve the aame purpoea of improving tlie appa.aranaa, eto., and
r'Saould aoC iacreaee the amoune of ru¢-off for tha approximsCely 646 eq.
~pft. fran garage to properry li¢e.
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YARTAl1CB FtlR OVBR6I"cBD_A00$880RY BUILDINO-^ROtlBIt H. HCKAY--8300_PLB_A_BANT VIBW
agineering Teuhnieian Kempel raported the raqua~t wae fot a 22'x 30'
cceo~ozy bu11dlag. Th• code re~Ericta the ~ia• of aana~eary baildiags
kro 218 ^q, ft. and ao petmit should ba leeued fot mota Chrn ooe garaga
p~r 6walliug. Tha p:oposad structure vould hava an accese From the ueet,
n dirC road !n Spring Laka Park.
Commis~ioa Member Burmai~tar quostiopad tho 01sa of doore osedeJ Sn :ha
building. Hr. McUay statad he didn'h aead any largar than 3~j-Eoot doore
sinca hs only plaqnad to etore gardan cquipmant, levn squlpmenC •nd
#uraSture, eCC. Commieeioo Hember Burmeietar queet•4oned rhy ha nosded
auch a larga building if auet fos etorage. N.r. Hc&ey ladicaeod ha neaded
thaC much uC~~age araa baneuae hie presepC garrge couldn'k hold it.
When eeked by Commieelon ^tember Glazer !f he had a hardohlp, Kr. HcKay repllad
lse had none.
Commiaeion Hambex Biauchard etatad thac the City had increaeed the allocraDle
bisa fo,r borh garagea and acceeaory buildi¢ge two timee. Haqy of theee
typae ot requeeCe have been turned down.
MSP (8urmeleCer/Doebel) to deay the requuet of Roger F[c&ay Yot an ov~z-
uizad aceaseory building. Ik's aa exceeeiva variance and saams Co ba
ao hardahip to g:ant the vsrianee.
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(BixncUatd/lioubal) Co remove the NcDoaald'e reqaeat from [ha table
6 aymo
BngAn~ering Tecdnictan Rampel pointed ouc the MeDonald~e t~qu4~t had besn
tablad so Cl~at the roeide¢t next door to McAonald'a eould be notiLiad of
the ptopoeeS drive-in wlndow addition. A latter was recaivad from Chir
rooldent stating At wae no problem ae long ae tha feade was extsndad to
prohibiE paopla fzom psrking Sn hia driveway. A variance is rapunsCad
for drivaway eetback and parking apacee.
Mr. Steve Simpeou, repraeeating McDonald'e, etat~d he fnit adc pr~poaal
rrae a favorabta one. Thoy hava eubmitted a rAVieed plan showing 73 parkiag
stsllc, tvo of vhich srm 12'x 20'. The point oE contenkioo had beea the
naighbor nexC to Mcrionald°s. The neighbor'e input indicatee hie complianca
vith the propar screanfag baewean hie Uouea and MaDueaid'e. Mr. Simpao¢
aant on to uts[e the layout !or driva-through aould ba a"clean" one •s
fsr ae pedestriaa/tsaf8lc crooeing.
Commlaeton Mewber Olaaer quaetioned whathes tha 8-fooi Fenca aould pxovide
adaqustn ecrenning due ro the eleoatioa af Cha aeighbor'e houaa. Xr.
Simpson raplied tihare vould be a 3 or 4-foot borm aad then the 8-faot
fenae aad thf.s together wlli be effect4vu acraen~,ng. Cbm17i0i1156 Membmr
Prbamora puinted out tha neighhor's coneera orss £or khe lengCh oP ths
:ance rather than Che hoig6t. Mr. SSmpso4 poiated out they Mi71 halghtaa
ae well as lengthea eha fence in compliance, as aall as provida addition4l
( ~a¢deeapl.og.
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MBP (Hoca/Blanohard) to ap~rova tha requere oE MeDOUald'~, 2201 Righway 10,
tu insksll a dciva-through r~ndaw aaat of Chm axlatiag auildiog conringant
~pon ~hair enru:ing lato s davalopmene agr:~meu! with Cha Oity r~garding
cresning, ~SgnaQa, garking spaca markingr, curb and gutGar. A v~x4anan
should ba grenlma Por tha eideyard serback tor the deivavay. Tha fancing ~•;
aa ~ne proparty !s L•o be 6-N faat high runoiqg tha Iangth of, t6e building,
approximst~ly 201 £fiat, a~ r~quaatad by Che neighbor.
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HAJOR BUBDIVYBION--u.R~FORDBR AND JAMSB L. TRUORSR--2U9__MU8TAN0 AOAD
Ebginoering Techniclan %smpol zavi~wad the ^pplicant~ r~qua~t Eo combina
Cwo loks to make cight, each ~ndu~xrial lot bei¢g approximately oua acra
in elaa. Thn prnpo~ed cul-de-eaa is bohh workable end earviceable alth
6nkb v+esr end ~exes svnSLebls from Huetnng Aoed. ~Ue dCA~nKg~a t. inraequ~ee
for shr~e-year aeesm ~t Zu1k dev~l~pmaa:. Hritian aQ~rov~? auat La reealvad
Erom tha Alce Greak Wmtersb.ed, Aam~ey County, etc., pursuent to public
improvamants and bunding.
Mr. Porter iudlcatad thay xere sechanScal enplanert with a huating,
veutilecing, ais-conditloniag bue4neee now located in New Srightoa. Ha
Sndic~tad they only iatand to buiid on tho firet loE wiCh tentative plane
to sell two of Cho othar loCe. Tha propoead buf.l,diag auuld be approxlmately
10,006 oq. SC. Th• lover pqrtion of the lot would ba used etrictly for
outdoor storage.
Commiesion Mambar Ooebal atatnd hie concera for !he incraaeo ia drainaga
aquiremantt craatad by an induetrial complex, Commiesio¢ Membar Fose
ointad out th~t, at thie t1me, tLa Planning Oommieelon ahould address
" Stee1P to ehe subdivieinn requoat.
M8P (Poe~/83anchard) to approvo tha requeet of tha epplisante, W.fl. Pordar
and J~u~~ L. Truck~r, 2179 Huska¢g Road, to d~vide lote 2 aad 3, Block 1,
Mou~dc View Induetr~el Paxk 42, into eight induetrial lote, ae pxoposed in
the praliminary plat raceived by Mounde Viea May 29, eub~ect ko tha Eollowing
conditiooo: ~pplicante ehould a¢tar into a devalopment agreameat wi~h tha
Oity pursuant to in~tal2ntiou of public improvam~nte and bonding, and the
~ppllcanCe should obtain written approvel from khe Rlce exeak Watarehed
and &emsey 4ouney for eubdivieien.
A rollcall voCa was tskans Commieeion Nember Blanchard Qye
Cammiseloa Membsr Hurmeleter nay
Uomuiseion Hmmbar Praemose ay0
Commieelon Hamber Boer ay•
Com~leeion ~embar 6laaar nay
Commission Hamber Qoebef aye
Commirelon Hember Burmaister eteted ehe had voCad nsy dun to inadequat•
Suformation.
Commission Mam'var ~ls.ser aCStad ha had votad uay beaause tha flood plala
lreue hae eot baeq rsnalved. Any devalopncat ~ail? ±flpect an Ries Creek, Lono
Leka, Nsa brighton~ •tc.
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Commleslon M~mb~r Oo~bel SodLa~tad thal, while h• t~1C th• flood plain
l~aue •hould be da~1t altk, it •houldn't hoid khis irrus !n Rbayapam.
~F.a tlo~d p1aLn Latue aa~uu2So't ha~e ac :aC~c: :a ~:fbQ!r!ylcae,
Comol~aion Nemb~r Oo~bal eautionad the dev~loper~ Eo ba4r in miad eA~t
Mouude Vtaa i~ concaraad ~bo~!C thair drainag• problemo acd bo romambar
thir !n daallug with paopl• a, thay eall Cha lot~, Tha luJC amouc! oL
lmp~xviou• ~urSan~, th• b~bt~r Por drainag~,
Enaio~arioa T~chniaian Kamp~l ~Cetad ttiar• will b• • mr~ting oa Juos 19
re~ardina Ehe Plood pl~ln !u u• for ta~uraqa• purpo~es, Ho'~mphrtle~d
t~11/ tG9~tillQ NOU~d dl~l M~C~1 floading, qOt M~.C~I G~lq M~l~T t~bl~.
N8P (Oo~b~l/Prarmora) thaC Plannina Oommi~rion x~queat~ Ch• City Oouuail
to addras~ tUa qua~tioa oP a~tabllehing flood plaia xad NiGllpd •raR~ in
~4nuacln ~Lecr to saotoe iu YY,tjtlil7Ef for verlaauna rnd ^ubdivieiuur Lruu~ht
baPoc~ thie Qommlailon.
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Drnnq P~t~r~on, Oeotury 21 raaitor, a~kad th• Pla~niug Oomalorioa eo
con~Sdar graottng r e~Eback variauca for Cha prop~rty •t th• cern~s oF
8uncysid• aad Ardea Avenua. The propa~~d hom~ 1~ 26 fs~t wido and, ffo
b• bu11E oa this 90-foot lot,,wauld aot m~at tha 30-foqt Eron4 and baak
e~tback raquir~rant~. Th~reLor~, a b-Foot variinaa !~ oerd~d,
Attar ^oaa dieausslon raaardiag various a2tarnativ~a, !!r, Pet~r~oa w~s
advf.~ad to coataat gtnaYf ic ordar to h~va th• vari~aca z~qu~st placad on
tk+ agmnda for tha next Pienn~ng Qommisaion m~~tl.ag.
Co~olo~foa Membaz 8seamora expr~isad coacern about tha amoua,~ oP watar
pump~d iato Oha ~torm rev~r at tha constructlo¢ ~it• eart o! Loaa Laka
8oad •ad ~outh of Ardan Av~nu~. Ha N~nt ou Ea st~t• th~y dad reuovad
tho orgapic ~oil end replaaad with Ylii.
Plancing Commiesion mambers Nare ramindad the naxt a~ating~ Juna 20, weuld
b~ tha mpaci~l Soint assalon vLth eha Oounnil to eelact a plannia~ con-
aultarti, IC wl11 bagis ut 6:30 PK.
N8P (Burm~Sstar/Pnee) to ad~ourn Cha meaCiag at 4s3S PN.
ReopeatFully suhmlLt~d,
6teven A. Ro~s
Sullding 6 2oning OPPici~tl
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