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Home My WebLink About1979-07-03 PC Minutes_, vo.~e~ PROCE~DIN69 OF THE p1,ANNINO COMMISSION CITY OF MOUN09 VIBW RAMS~Y COUNTY~ MINN690TA ~ regular maeting of the Mounde Viea Planning Commiealoo wae cslled to ordmr by Chairpereon Naake at 7:30 PM on July 3, 1979 at e4e Mounde View :,Sky Hall, 2401 H~ghway 10, Mounde Viev HN SSi12. M6MBBR9 pRBSBNT AL50 PABS$NT Chalrperaon Heake Councilmember Forelund Coamission Mamber Burmeieter Building 5 Zoning Official Aoea Commission Mamber Fedor Commieeioa Member Praemore MEMSERS A99SNT , Commisetoa Hember C.Lezer Commtaeion Member ~ Blancherd (unexcueed) ~ Commisaion Member 6oeb~1 Commie~nioa Meober QUAR~ (nxcuesd) ~ llRIVBWAY SBTBACX 9AAIANCE--DAVID 90CKTER--2474 CDllNTY ROAD H2 Offlc~l Roee explained Clie property ie locatad at the corner of. Couney Road ~ ~ H2 and Srondale Road. The Docktere are r~questing a variaaca for drivawsy , eetback o£ laee thun 5 f.eet as req~i.rad bp aode. The preeent dr.ivewey Le 10 feet off Cha properCy lina and thay aouLd like to exte¢d !t 9 feat Co tha eaet. Tha exieting drive meate ehe code raquirement of miaimum of two • parking epacea, "4r. 9o~ck[er eteted that, at present, vehiclee hava to be parked one behiad Che othar and ona hae to ba movad when the oeher ie ¢eedad. There re a .~ ~6ain 13uk faace between Chuir. properky and Mr, Cu71icY.aAn'e, wbo wae raeene aad indicated hie approval to exeend the drivavay. Mr, Dockter , further etated thae, to conform to code, he could gain 4 faet, bu[ it would aot be e¢ougL. Hie loe is a eubetandard 75-foot lot. The Police have aekod thmm ~ot Co park in the etraet eince it blocke visibilil•y. ? Commieeton Membar 8urmaieter auggee[ed the poeeibllity of ueing cruehed ; roak inetead uf paving. Mr. Dockler etated his fealing it would look ouk of place, heving half pavad and half rock, plue ¢he rock would get into ;~, the graee. Commleslon Membar Coebal axplainad that paving wauld add more runoff waeer Co the already overtexed etorm eevez eyeCem. Mr. Aockeet « indicaGed he would rather compromise by decreasing the amoune of requested ~ pavad area to 7 additional feet then to uea cruehad rock. Mr. Docktar atstod hia hardehip wae that eome tima ego, being unaware of the ordinance, he F,ed coaeracted a blacktoppf,ng company, and hae paid a portion of the coet. Commleeion Mambar Pedor euggested hie hntdehip could bn that he hae a aubatandard eized lot. Commieelun Membex Goabal felt s. further herdehip could he that tha Polica have aeked tLam not to perk io tbe stseat aod with their own vehielee, plue aay vieitote', it poeea a diffinult problem. Cha~rpereon Haake a¢d Commieaion Member Glazer expreeaed [hey favored the alternaCS propoeal, ehe eingl.e drive videning 10 additional faet diagonally the laat 30 faet up to thn garage. ` d$P (Coebel/Freemorej callad for the motioa. ~a~i 5 ayae 1 nay Muunde Yiev Planniog Commiaeloa ~'~ ~`~ Page 2 July 3, 1979 M9 (Fedor;6oabel) to approve rhe A-foot varience for eideyard eetback for ~vid Doc.kter, 2474 County Road H2. Thie variance te baing granted due to s hardehlp created by a eubstandard frootege 75-foot lot. 2 syee 4 neya MBP (Claeer/Ooebel) to grant Mr. Dockter the veriance for tha alternate propoeal ae praeented by Ehe ekatch dated 6/28/79. The hardehip involved is the eubeEaodard sizo lot and lack of another viable eolution. 5 eyee 1 aey Coaaie9lon 1Memher Hurmoierer etated eha had voCed nay beceuea ehe feels the eubatandard aiza loe Se not enough of e hardehip. Mauy 73-foot ].ote hava drivevaye 5£eet Yrom loe lluea. The fect ehey do nor put hoth cara 1.n tha garage ie aleo aot e hardehip. Mz, Dqekter wantad the Commieelon~e feeling abouG the poaeibility of eub- dividing a parcel 91' x 150' off his and Mr. CuLllckean'o proparty, Chair- pareon Haake directed them to go through tha Oity's proceeeee !u pureuiag tha oubdivision. HIN~J& BUBDIVISIUH--BRIAN AM11ND3Eti--7092 RLSASANT VISN DRIVE Ofiieiul Rose expleioed the proparty ie located on Pleeeantvlev Drive and Woodalc Drive. The applicant ie propoaiag a eplit creatlag two lote, e-~ise 12A' x 11S' and the otUar 158' x L15'. Hoth lote aeat area and frontage `~~pquiremante. Sewer and water are available; storm eaWee outl~t for the erea ie ina3equate for a ehree-year erorm at full developmant. Thair propoeal ie to relocetu tha g~rage on the cornar lot, leaving the 12`x 12' barn on their lot for the new houae, removing tha ehed on the waet lut aC ehe time of cone[ruction. Chairpereon Haake reminded ehe Commiaeion Mambera of a similar situation lo the same area approxima[ely two yeare. ago. Commiaelon Member Goebel aekad if the sncond lot would be treated tts a corner lot to provide for proper setback. Official Roee poiated out if LCs treated ae a corner Lot, t~e easements takea would make !e eubstandard eize, ehould a aCreeC evantuelly go Chrough. A diecueelon followed explorinQ poaeible c8angee in the Yocatioa of lot xlnas, drlvaway, etc. ~ eo as Co obtalu ae much equare footage ae poseible. Mr. Amundeen'e gread- mnthar ob~ected tu the additinnal expenae of uurveying tha loe aud movl.ng Yhe drivevay involving heavy equipment to mova traes aad cut a new driveway. Mt. Amundaen asked wheCher he would be aesessed for tva froute. Chair- pereon Haake and OfficSal Roea explsined it would not ba a coro.ex lo[, but the racords would ehow it could posaibly be a coxner lot. Officia!. Roee further explained ;hat storm aewer asaeeaments are calculated ga¢AralYy on square footage rathar than etreaC frontage. Mr. Amundeen Atated the eimile:: lot divided two yaare ago te only a 100 oot loC and aould be e problem if a rued went'through. OfficSal Aonn ~{:aCmd at that time an laY:ormal Counail meetlag decided not to glve a 3U-toot eeaement ae nu road would go through. H9P (ltaake/Hurmeietnr) to racommend to tha Council to approve the minor eubdivieioa requeet of Br1.an Amuadosa, 7092 Pleaceat View Drive, to divide . ~.,a~ Mounde View Plan¢Lag Commieelo^ Pnge 3 July 3, 1?79 the loC ek Che corner of Plaeeant Vlew Drive and Woodale Urive inko two ~arc~le pureuanl• to the Surveyore Certificate dated 6/25/79. 6 ayee A M9P (6oebal/Burmeieter) to amend the motions that Parcel h ba ereated in the ordinancea ae a aorner lot Sn the event e etreet goea through o^ the eaet eide, 6 ayae Commieeion ttamber Pedor lefr the meeting aC thie tima. DEVBLUPMENT ASVIEW--SCOTLAND OREBN APARTMENTS--2662 SCOTLANB COURT Official Roee explained that the applicaut lu requaeCing upproval of a ceczeatiott buildiog to bn addocl to the c~aplr,~ at Luug Lak~ Road and County Road H. Rhe propoeed bu~.lding r.onforms wlth the R~4 soqing~ and meeke the oetback requiremA¢te. The devalopment will cruate additLnnal runoff; tha davelopar hae bonn given 'P.esolution IF983 and !e adjusting !he siCe plan to comply. Approval wouLd includa bonding ¢r eecrawing of valuatiou of ouk- door improvemante, eita plaae, building pluna and drainage controle. Ma, 9hellia J. Ulmaaiec, representing Scotland araen Apartmnote, etaeed tha recreation building will contain aa ofEica for futuxe Cenante later- viewe, ae vell aa a ona and CNO badroom apartment for futura te¢ante to eee. It aill aleo contain a pool aad two party roome witL a glaea eeparaCion, a whirlpool, exerciee room and lavaCUriee. Theee recreatioa facilitSee have baen requeeted by tlie teaante and the money io oo~ available for St. No df.tioaal parking Sa required. Tha development propoasl ie on the agendn r RSce Creek Wakerehad raview July 23, 1979. Commieeion Member Ooebel asked how much area ie covered by paved eurfaca; He. Ulmaniec replLed it vill be 50 percent. Commiesion Member BurmeieCer aeked !E the devalopment wilfl be complete; Me. Ulmaniec replied it w211 be. Commied~on Member Glazer brought up tha poine Che aoil wae very poor in' th~ax s. Me. Ulmaniec otatad ehe eoil boariage ehowed the beet soil ie under tLe area of ehe proposed recreation buildiage. MSP (Goebel/Clazer) to re~commend the Couocil accept tha Scotlend Green developmeat ae propoeed. 6 nyee DSV6LOP_M6NT CONTROLS--LAR12Y L'RAMBLIT--2160 S&BVICW llRIVE Official Roee explained the propoeed mocel sitfl location Ss oq Servlce Drive in Clie Progrnm Lacd plat. Existing zocing is H-3, B-k; the soning and propoeed land uee sllows this developwent. The building ae propoaed~ es well ee parking lot and Ariveway weet minimum eetback requirements. 105 parking spacea ere propnsed Whieh maet requiremenCe. Sqwer and water ara available to the southwest of tha property; exiatfag etorm enwar le in- adequate fur a ttirae-yaar eeorm when fully developad. Straet ie available whicL daed enda at theCpoi¢t on the eaet aide. Applicaat would ba asked ~o meat Reeolution ~903. At the time of Nort•hczeet Yark propoesl., t61s ~ l~•ae was pcaponad f.ox pouding with removal o£ eervlca drive. Nurthcraet ~I~'ark wse danied and the xoning hae eince ree~ereed ba~k to cnmmarcial. Mounda Viev Ylauoing Commieeioa 8aD u~~ Page 4 July 3, 1979 Mr. Cramblit etaLad he wlll owa tha motcl himealf rtnd hae ao[ decided ae et whather !t will be aFEilinead with any motal chain. :ie dosa noc plaa have e resta~rant or bat. He hae made provielon for an-aita retentian e pall ae a 90-foot ecreaC aseement. Thie euggeation waa workad out witb Program Land when a r~otel etudy wae done previouely. Commieeion Member Fador returned at thie time. Commieelun Nember 6oebal queetl.oned the poeelbility thae the need for a pond, sa previouely propoeed, might be reduced N1194 Reeolution #903 is puE into eEfect. He rclayed facto regarding pollution in atorm aatar, and tlie merite of ratentiou, He ehated Chie ponding wee to rapxeeene 50 pe--e¢C af ehe storm water problem. He a7.eo etated that, ehould the ponding noc he required~ the eite vae good itt the ptopoeed motal development. Chaf.rpereon Nsake uzged ehe Plenaing Commiesio~a Co look at thie perticuler prnpoeal with rhe merits of Reeolution ~Y983 snd leave the planning deta111ag ae to ~torm eewere,holdiug vatere, etc. to tha Council. If thn Council decidra~ 4L• e$ould ba a p~nding ncae~, they will ace accordingly. MBp (Quabel/Freemore) to recommend Co Councii approval of the plaa sa propoaed, pendSng: 1) the Council clarify ehe aead for uea of thie parcel ae a ponding area for Dietriot 2; and 2) tha Council raviaw addad require- mante to maet Rnsolutioa ~983. lD a.~tal DBVBLOPMBNT PROPOSAL--JAN EBB6RT MNHFA SSCT. 8 APPLICATION--2321 SRONSON DR. ~ f£i-•':~.'. Roea explalned thn property is located sbove Bsaaaon Dr. beeween ounCy Rd. I and Bronson Ar, to tha waet of Jackeoa and eaaC vf f3reenfield, Tbn GiBy has raoeivad two writtan requeate, one from MnBPA end the Metro- polita¢ Council, ae ko sooing and planned laad uae and raquiriag tha Clty'a input ae to Seat. 8 applisatlan by Jan Bbbert for ac aparemnnt complex. Tha zonlag denotae higl~ density. Tha proparty hae maver ead water available and ie acceesable from both Sronson Dr. and County &d. I, No housing plan axieto and tha Planning Uommiee~.on Se aekad to reviaw Che need for thie Cypa of a developm~nt, 8e etated he hae talkad to the Met Council nnd they are avare theaa are etorm eewer connidaratinue for that aeea. Miko :9eKeuna of &ealty Managameat 3erviaee rapreeanted Jan Ebberh. He explained the Saction 8 program ie deoigued Co pxovida new conetrucEion houeipg at a rata available tro lov to moderata iacome femiliee. i.e., familtee yith so incoma nok to axceed $15,000 per year. The tenante would be haqdiaeppod~ dieplaced by govexnment actioa~ diRSbled, alderly, ets. They would be required to pay 25 percent of their ad~ueted incnme for rant and tlin unita, se eetabliehed by HUD, range betaeeq $350-480 par month. Commieeion Goabe2 aekad i! !e would be posaible to provide for qualifyiqg Mounde Viev reeidante firat. Mr. Mc&enna iqdicated that 35-40 perce¢C of Hounda View reeldeate would qualify Por thie type of housing and the ma~ority would probably ba from Cha area, but there wae no vay to anter iato an agraemenY with the City to a:cclude anyona, Official Rosa etated !G wae hie understandf.ng that if haadicapped, elderly, etc, were uu the waiting ~SaC, thay vonld recaiva pteferenca, but they could aot leave units Opeq ~iting for quch eppllcanta. Moundu View Planning Commieelan up H~ Page 5 July 3, 1979 Commieelon Member poebul aeked ebout the ~aintenance program and expreeeed co¢oern abQUt rapid dmtariotation. Mr. MoKenna sGated many unlta would hs ~wnhoueee aad Nould have to be conrcructed to tiuHPA and tiUE qualit~ require- nte. Thay vill ccet from $30,OQ0 to $35,000 and would be eubject to eevere guidelinee of couotruction. Mr. McKenna atated that 46 units of ChYe type already exiat in Mouade View in varioua apartmenC complexes. Peg Mountain etated her concern that Chese xeeidcnte mny prefer baing integrated into oGher complexae rather than in a "reeer.vation" type houaing, Commiaeivo Hembar Pedor etatod it eounded good ae it Le helpful for people needing it, but he I~ad a problum wi[h it Erom a tax vtewpoint. Commileel.on Hember Glaaer etated ha had s problem regardLng eiming alnce Mounde View doae not currently have a land uee plau. He wae cancer.nad ChaC neighboriag seeidente have noe had a chence to comment. H3P {0laaaz/Heeke) to tehle thla ir,am until such Cime ae we cau review hhe honeing plan wi.th thn plan¢iag coneultant, Midweat Plenning. 6 ayes HIf3}1WAY x0 aaJ PLSA6ANT VI6W DRIVE SIGNALY2ATION Official Rosa axplainad thie matter had baen reviewed a number of monthe ago. SubenquenE to our £eadback, the Dept. of Traneportatioo hae come up with another propoaal making tha ma,]ority of tha improvamar.t in 9pring Lake Pk „ ~ieresby proGactiag Pleaeant View Drive £rom abnormal impa~t wtth no need elimainate the nearby duplexas ae in the other propoqal. Mr. Bvan Green~ Minnneota Depl•, oE TranaportaCion, and 7os1 Kat? xspreeented the Dept. of Transpottation. Mr. Greeo explaiaed tha proposal would cloee the median cut anc+ acceos cut and relocate to the othar side o£ Highway 10, reroutiag traffic zc the algnalized lntereecCion, Tha axietleg eituation virh tha inteteectioa cloee to thA interchanga creatae s traffie eafety hazard. Commiesion Mambnr Gl~azer askad what Spring Laka Parl:'s oommante ware. Hr. Green etated thuy were ganerally in favor aad thought they would discuee it at thair Council meatiag thie weak. M9Y (Heake/Goabel) to recommend to Council they accept thia propoaed elgnrs2- ization that fiae been praeeutad et H4ghvay 10 aud Plaeeaat Vicv Drive. 6 ayeE DHYS POR NSW TflUNR HIGNWAY 10 Of£Scial Roee indiceted the matter had ariuan by a ci.tizen at tha r~ceat Council meeting. The xeeident a~ked the Counc3l to make a reaolutio~n on the Highway 10 isaue sad tha Counall did aot wie6 to comply. Peg Mounrain steced ehe had becovea eepecially involvad in ehe leeue and had placed many telephone calla to reeideata to determina thoir feelinge oo ehe ~hree alGernativea: no bulld, NozthGOwn corridor, or upgrade prasant L0. ~e etated the reeidnat in question ie oppoead to Norrhtown corri.dor and ~dele "oo build" le a vSable ultarnative. OCher reeidenee favor Norl•htown Mounde Viuw Flanning Commieetoa ~°'a~ ra8e s Suly 3, 1979 with a Redoak interchange, and eho generel faeling !e againet upgrading preeent 10 ae it would cut the city Ln half. ~Pfiafal Roee indicated Hn90T wiehee to eeC up neighborhoud meetinge which would be baeically informational. Peg Mouneain euggested they elea qiva attenCion to deaign, whLch the reeidente are inrerasted in. INDSPBNDENT 9CHOOL DI9TRICT 4d21--5 YBAR 6DUCATIOK & CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN Offf.cial Roaa explained 3chool DietricC 0621 had propoeed no C.I.P. for tha three schoole in Mounde View for 1978-79 tUrough 1982-83. Two elemantary echoole Would be cloeipg in 1980-81 with another in 1982-83. All Mounde View echoole had a highar percantaga of enrollment. He indicated Eha Plan book Wauld ba svailable for Qommieelon Membere to review and commene co Council befoi~e thm nexC meating. RAH86Y CQUNTY 5-YBAR PR06RAM Official Rcoa atate3 P.amaey C~unty hae propoeed impcovemente oxtending through 1983 and Mounda View hae proposed improvamante !n our 5-yeer stara aid conetructloa program, and it would ba daeirabla L•4 coordine[e them. M9P (Coabel/Haake) eo r9commend to tho Council wa aek the 8lghway Deparament Eo accept Reeolution #951 and acC on that only. Speciff.cally, wa do aot anticipata any nead for four-lene improvemente on Long Laka Rosd from County Rd, Ft to County Rd. J. Alao, ae do recommeud [he eignaliaa~ioa of Silver , Luke Road at County Rd. Hy. ~ ~j;~~^~10~ ~LVBR VISW PARR w x ~- i7Pt4cial Roee axplained thle park would be locatud at tha corner of Silver Lake Road and County Fd. I. Kraue-Anderaon ie interested in devaloping tho routhaeet proparty and have iudicated ehey might ba willi~g to ewap. Thay would li,ke to improva ehe area to a lake and build raeidential around ie. Io doiag eo, the city would lose eome natural amedtiee, and would fiave to ilatte¢ out the land for ballparke, atc. Tha Park Commiesion hae reviewed and made Chat raaommendatioa. If we can't come to an~agreemant, wa can purchaee that amount of acreage and develop the park ae originally planaed. MSP (Haake/Olazer) to recommand to ~he Council we accept the offer mada by Kraue-Anderaon that the Park & Recreation Commisalon of Muunde Viaw excheaga the already puschased 16.9 acras in the souChweet eornar £or 16.9 acres in approximataly the northveee corner in addition to two mora acquisieio¢e Smmediately ad~acent to the ¢ortlieaet cornar: 1) 10 percen[ of lann dedicated to khe Pa~k & Recreation fund~ and ?) ee many acrao ae cau bc purohaead with tha $136~800 LAW CON graot. If said acq~dsitl.nne cannot ba made, ehea we recommand tha 1)62) addlti,onal acyuieido¢o as etatad above, be applied to Cha oouthwaet corner ae oxisinally planned. We also recommend that vhoa the ei~e is choean, tha CiCy xecura treil corridor eaeemenCa Chrough tda entire Kreue-Andereon. propesty f~~r acaeae to Silver Vieur Park from ell four eides, plue eaeomenta around propoaed Oak Lake Park. Planaing Commisaioa would support cha Kraue-Andesaoa propoeal for low to medium dausity , ~7ueiag for eome pareeotaga of their px~oper.ty davelopment. y , ~ ayes ~~~ 2 aaye Mou¢de Viaw Plan¢lug CommieRion ~9~@~~ ps8a ~ Suly 3, 1979 Qommieeion Nember Fedor eCated he had voted nay Ueuauee !~e did not believa tha park ehould ba moved that cloeo to Highway 10 end be completely eur- ounded by commarcial. Commiesiop Mamber 6oebel etated he had voted nay ~or th~ eame reaeon. MSP (Haake/Burmeieter) to recommend Co the Cou¢c31 the property located ia the eouthveet corner of tha Xraus-Andarson lend, ee it bacomee open to development becauee oE ehe park eaap, be dedicaCed as R-1 and that, !f the eouChweat corner ie retained as e park eita, the eaee eide of 911ver I~ake Road be deeignated low density raeidentisl, 6 ayes FUTO&B HBSTIN~B, NBXT A~~NDA 6 PRSVIOUS ACTION9 A diecueel.on took place regarding the poee1bi11ty of the Plauning Commieeioo having aganda m~atinge, It wse dec~ded that maetinge of thie tyne ~uuld tnke placa at T~20 PM foti• ao meny Commiaeion Hembers ae cun be preeeol•, nnd Cha regular meetiage would bag14 at ;:30 FM. Official Roee informad tha Commiasion Membare of a joint meeting with the Council, Staff aud M3dwest Planning on Auguse 8 co preeent the ouLldua wAereln the Compsehenaiva Plae will knke placa. At thie time Chairpereon Haake racommended tlia oinucee u£ the Juae 30, 1979 Planning Commiaeion Meeting he accepted ae corracted. HSP (Goebel/Freemore) to recommend Co Conncil we etiange hhe ordinance 40.05, ubdiviaion C, concaxuing satbsck 31e:secae AP follows: "The front yazd ~~eCback diatancee for R-1 aod R~ davalopmeat shall rauge from 30 to 50 faet. urt6ar, subpuragraph a. of Subdiviaia¢ C be changed to tead: .. ~~YLiC S~jRC~~C 9fT~3CYtiTP4 wdthin Che eame hlock have froat yerd eatbacke di£ferent £rom efiooa required, the tront yard minimu~ oetback ehall ba a reaeonable average of Cha adjaceut etruceuree. b, If thero le only one adJacant etructure, tha fronC yard ~~6~0LLm satback shall be e reasonable avercge uf the requlred eetback . and the ae[back of the ad~ace¢t etructure." Thie alao includae etriking tha laet eeatenoe of tha paragraph of Sub- 7 diviaion C. 1 6 ayae ~ MSP (Clazar/Ooe~bel)~thnt ageaciee' aud/or dapat.ment comments (1.e., ae on ~~ ehe che,k-oft lisr t ~ prepared by Staff) to development propoeale ba suppliad y Cn the Commiseion Membare before Planniag Commiasioo conaidarat~on, when ' a so du,r.ided upon by n ma~ority of Planning Commiesion Memberg. ~ ~ 6 ayae The inteat of thia motion is to a11aW tha Planaing Commieeion to more ~ khoroughly review Che impact of patitionezs'requeata. ! MSP (Hsake/Preemoru) to adjouxn the meeting at 1:20 iM. 6 ayes i~J Reapectfully submltted~ Btsven A. Roea Build4ng 6 Z~ning 0£fic~al (CORRECTBJ & APPROVED COPY) P:<OC66DINa8 9F THE PLANNINO COMMIBBION OITY OP MOUNDB VIBW RAM56Y tiOUNTY~ MINN690TA ~regular meating o£ tha Mounde View Planning Commiesion wae called eo order by Chairperaos Hsake at 7f30 PM on July 3, 1979 at the Mounda View Ctty Hell~ 2401 Highway 10, Mounde View MN 55112. MBM86R8 PRBBENT AL50 PABBENT Chairpereon Haxke Councilmember Foreluud Commiaeion Member Burmaieter Suildin.g & Zoning Officiel Roee Commieeion Membar Pndor Commiebio¢ Member F;eamore MBMHBRB AHSSNT Conmisaion Dtember 6lazer Oomaiaaion Hambor Hlenchard (nxcueed} Cummi~elan Member Goebel Commieeion Membex Qua¢ (exaueed) DftIV6WAY SETBACK VARIANCE--DAVID DOCKTBR--2k74 COUNTY ROAD H2 Official Roee explained tl~ia properCy Ss H2 und Irondsle Road, Tha Dot~tare are aetback of lnes than 5 feeC ae requirad 10 feet off ths property 11ne and Ghey tl~e eaet~ Tha exieting driva meete the parking spacas. locaeed at tha corner of CounCy R1, xequesting a variance for driveway by code. TUe praeent drivawuy ie aould like to uxtand St 9 feet to code requirement of minimum of two Mr. Dockeer etatad that, ar present, vehiclea have to ba parkad one behind tlia other and one hae~to be movad when the okher is needed. Thara Ss a haia link fence between thair properCy and Mr. Cullicksan'e, who wae ~eaene, and indicaked his epproval to exeend the 3riveway. Mr. Doakter rtraz ntate3 thery te r.nnf.nrm to onde; ha could a~in ~. feat, but it would not be a¢ough. Hie lot is a subeeandard 75-foot lot. T6e Police have aeked tham aot to park in the etraee since ±t blocks vieibility. Commissiou Mambor Burmeteter euggeeted tha poeeibility of using cruehed rock instead of paving, as it crestee more imparvioue aurfaca. Docktar etatad his faeling it would look out of place, havin~ halE paved and half rock, plue che rock would get into tha grase. Commisaion Membar Coebal e xplainad that pavin3 would add more runo£f wal•ar to the already overtaxed storm eawer eyetem. Mr. Dockter indicatad he would rather compromiea by decreaei.ag the amount of requaeted paved area to 7 additional feeC tha¢ to uee cruahed xock. Hr. Dackter stated his hardship waa that eoma Cime ago~ being uaaware of the oxdinaace, ha had co¢tracted a blacktoppSng company, and has pal.d a por:ion of thu coet. Commiesio¢ Member Fedor euggeeted hie hardet~lp could ba that he hae a eubstandard sized lat. Cu~mieeion Member Goebel folt a further hardship could be thae ehe Police havo sakad them noe to park in the etreet and with their own vehicles, plue ary~vieitore', iC posae a difficult problem. Chairperaon 'daaka and Comwiselon t4ambar Glazar axpraased Lhay favarad the alt~rnate propoeal, t~a dingle drivn widenlnd 10 addiciouril Eaet diagaaally thu laat 30 feet up to the garage. ~ ~ Moundn Viev Planning Commiaeion Page 2 July 3, 1979 M9 (Fedar/Ooebel) to approve the 4-fooC variencu for eideyard entbaclc for David Dockter, 2474 County Road 1i2. Thie variance ie being granCod due g to tho hardehip craeted by a eubetandard fronCage 75-foot lot. ~tiy Z ayea ~ y h nays MEP (6aebel/Fraamorc) called for tha motion. 5 ayee 1 nay MSP (Glazer/Ooebel~ to grant Mr. Dockler the veriunce for eha altarnata propoeal ae precented by the ekatch dated 6i29~79. The hardehip involved ie the eubetandard aize lot and lack of aoothar vieble solution. 5 ayoa 1 nay Commieeion Member Burmeieter etated eha had voted nay beca~ee eha feels [ho eubsCandard eize lot ie not enough of a hardel~ip. t4any 75-foot lots have d.ivewaye 5 feet from lot linae. Tha fact they do not put both cure in the garaga 1.s uleo not u har3sltiip. Mr. Dockter wentad the Commiseion's feoling about [he poesibility oE eub- dividing e parcel 91' x 150' off hSs and Mr. Gulltckeen's property. Chairpureon 8eake directed them to ga tfirough the CSty's proceeeae ia puzeuing tha eubdivieioa. MINOR 9UBDIVISION--DRIAN AMUNDSEN--7092 PLBASANT VIEW DRIVS Offi.cial Roee explaiaed the property ie located on Pleaeantview Arioe and Woodale ~rive. Tho applLcant is propoeing a eplit creating two lots~ '~~ ove 1?.R' x 115' and the other 1S8' x 115'. Both lo¢s maet area and frontage raquiramants. Sewer and watar. ara available; atorm sower ouelat for the area ie iaadequata for a thrae-qear etorm at full development~ Their proposal ie to ralocate the garage on the cornor lot~ leaving the 12' x 12' barn on t•heir lot for ehe new houee, xemoving tha ehad on the aest lot at tha kime of construction. Chairpareon 8nake remindad the Commiasion Membere of a eimi;lar eituatiou in the eame area approximataly two yeara ago. Commiseion Mamber Goebal aekad if tha eecond loe woutd be treaCed as a corner lut to provide fox propur~setback. Offic~tal Rosa, poinCed out ii iCe treaCad as a corner lot, Lhe eaecmente taken would mnke iC auber,.8ndard aize, ehould a ekrnet aveutually go through. A diecneeion followed axploring poselULa changas in the locatioa of lot lines, drivoway, atc. so ae to ObtRSR as much square footage ae poseible. Mr. Amundeen'e grand- mother objactad tothe add!.tioael erpense o£ aurvaying the Lot aed moving thc driveway Snvolving heavy equipment to move treen nnd tut a new drive. Mr. Amundsen neked whel•her ha would be aeeesee3 far two fronre. Chair- petaon Hsake and Official Roea explaiaed LC would not ba a co_nat loo, but tha recorde aauld chow :[ could paaei62; b!+ e snrner lot. Official ft~yr iurthar es:plaiaad C~at ekora eet~er ee??9PmenL•8 are calc~~lared generally on equaro footaga rathar than streec frontaga. ~Mr. Amundeen etated the uimi.lar loc divided tao yeare ago ie only a 100 foot lot and would bn a probYam if a road went through. Official Raea Atounda ViaH plannind Commieeion Page 3 Jul;• 3, 1979 etated aC tliat eime an incormal Council meatiag decided not to give a 30-foot eaeement ee no road vould go through. ...~ ~ MSP (Haako/Burmsieter) to recommend to che i;ouncil co approVa tlia m; cr aubdivielon requeet af Brian Amuodeen, 7092 Pieae^nt Viaw Drivo, to dividd tBelot at the corn¢r of Ploaeeut View Orive and Woudale DrivO into two parcele pureaant to tha Surveyore CerEificace dated 6/25/79. 6 ayee MSP (Coebel/Hurmaieter) to amend the motion: thae ParceS A be treated in Che ordlnaccea as s coraer lot in the event a etreet goes through on the eaet eide. 6 ayea CommleeLOn Member Fedor left the weeting at this timo. II6VELOPMENT REVISN--SCOTI,AND GREEN APARTMENTS~-2662 SCOTLAND COURT Officiel P,oee explaiaed r.hat rUe applicant is ruquesting appraval of a recreatioa 6uSldiag to be edded to the comple~c at Loqg Laka Road and Couuty Road N. The proposed building canforws aith the P,-4 zoning, and meets the eatbasl: requiramanCe. 'fhe devalopment will create addiCional runofE; tl~u developer hae bea¢ gtven Raeolutlon 9983 and ie ad~uetiag tho eite plan to aomply. Approvel would includa boudiug or ascrowing of valuation of out- door imprcvameate, eite plana, building plano and drainage r.onCrole. Ms. Sh¢21la J. Ulmaaiec, rapreeenting Scotlsnd Green Apce., eCatad Ch~ rocrea[ion building will contai¢ en office for future tanants interviewe, ae well as a one and tao badroom apartment for future tenenCs to eee. It will also contain a pool and two party rooms with a glaos eaparation, a whir.lpool, axerciae room aad lavaCoriea. Theae recreation faciliti.es ~" iinv~ Ldoi. I6y3uGtc3 ~y thc tensete an~1 khr. mnney ts now available Eor it. No edditional pscking is required, The devolopmeqt propoeal is on ti~e agenda Eor Rice Creek Waterehed review Ju1y 23, 1979. Commieeioa t4ember 6oebai aeked hoa much area ie covured by paved eurface; Ma. Ulmaniec ruplied iC will be 50 percent. Oaomieeion Member Burmeieter ae&ed if the devalopment will be compleCed witb this buildiag. Me. Uimaniec repliad it will be, Commission Membor Glazer brought up rha point tha eoil wae very poor in tha geaeral ares. Mn. Ulmaniac etated tfie euii boaringe ehowed tha beat eoil ie undor Che area of tM*~ !~ropoeed racreation bui.ldinge. MSF (Goebel/Glnzar) to recommend Cha Council accapt the Scotland Graea davelopmenr as propoeed. 6 ayae DSVEL9PMENT CONTROLS--LARRY CRAMBLIT--2160 SERVICE DRIVE Offlcisl Rose explainad the propoead motel site locatlon Ss on Sesvicn Arive in the Program Laud plat. Sxiating zoniug ia B-3, S-4; the zoning and px~opoeed la¢d uee allowe thie devc'.•pment. The buil~ing as propoaud, as weil eu par::iag !oC And drlveway mr.~c mi¢Smum aetback requiremaute. lu~ parking upnune u.e p.-oposa3 ahich meeG requizemencn. Sr,war aud wncar ara aysilable to Che souehwaet of ehe property; axisting etorm sawer is ~inadequate for a thrae-year etorm when fully developed. Streat ie avsilable whicb dead enda at thnt poinC on the eear aida. Applicant would ba aekad Mounds Viea Planniuy Com7lsel~~i Fage 4 JuLy 3, 1979 to meet Reeolution 6983. At tha time of Northcraet Perk propoeal, ehie area aae pcopoead for ponding with removal of eervice driva. NorChcrneC Park was denied and the zoning Uae eince reverted back to Cammurcial. ~ Hr. Cramb?it statnd ho will own th4 moCel Limeelf and hae not decidcd ae yet Whethar it will be effiliated with any motel eliain. Ae doee not piun ao have a reetaurant or bar. He hae mada prov:eion for on-eite retantioa as well ae a 30-foot etreet eaeemnnC. Thin auggeetion wae wnxMed ouC with Program Land when a motel Study war, dona previouely. Commieeioa Mamber Fedor reCUrned at thia Etme, Commieeioq Mamber Ooubel queetxoned tho poealbility that the need for a pond, ae previauely ptopoeed, might ba reduced when Reeolutian P983 ie puC Snto effact. Ne relayed fscta regarcling pollution io etorm watyr, and the merite of retention. He ah.ated thie ponding wae to contriUute 50 parcent of Che etorm water for Mounds View when it Sa fully devaloped. Ha aleo e[ated thaC, al~ould tha pon~iing not be rdquired, tha eite was good for the propoaed motel developmant. Chnirperaon Haake urgad the Pianning Commieaion to look aL• ti~is pnrticular propuesl vith th~ merl[e of Reaolutioa #993 and leave the planning detail as to storm eeaera, holding waCere, etc. to the Council. If the Council decidae it should be a ponding area, they will act accordingly. MSP (Gnnbul/Freemora) tn recommend to Council approval of the plan ae propoaed, pending: 1) the Council c.latify the nead kur uee of Chis parcal as a ponding area for D1st. 2, end 2) the Council raviaw added r.aquire- ments to maet Reeolutioq 983. 6 ayes `~ AEVIILOPMENT PROPOSAL--JAN EBBEP,T MnHFA SECT. 8 APPLICATION--2321 BAONBON Ofticlal Kose explained the property ie locatad aLove Bronson Dr. berveen Ct. Rd, I and Broneon Dr. Go the west of Jackeo¢ and eaet of Creeafield. The CiCy hes receivad two written reqneets, one faom MnHFA and Metro- politan Couucil, ae to zoning and planned la¢d use and requiriog the City input ae to Sac. 6 application by Jau Ebbert for au apartment complex. The zoning dauotes high deneity. The property hae sewer anA Water available end is acceesible from. both IIronson DY. and County Rd. I. No housing plan exiate and the Plauning Commiaeion !s aeked to review the ¢eed far chie type of a devalopmanC. He nCahed he hae talked to Met Council and they are aware thera are etorm eewer conafder.utioas for the erea. Mike MeKeana of R~alty Mgmt. Sarviceo reprase¢ted Jan Bbbert. He explainad the Sect. 8 progrem ia deeigned to provide new constructiun houeing aL• a raCe avnilable to low to moderate income f.amilias,, i.e., familiee aith an income not ko excer_d $15,000 per year•. The tenanta would be Uandicapped, displaced by govc. action, disablzd, aldarly, etc, They vould be required Co Qay 257. uf their adjueted incoma for rent and the units, ae aetablished by HUD, range from betwean $J50-480 per moath. ~~mmineiou 2"amber GoebaX aaked if it aould be poeeible to provide for quuli~ylna~Mounde Viaw reeidents firat. McXenna indSceCad thae 35-wOz of Moun~e View reeidemtp veuld quelify Enj~ t.t,lo typ~ cf hc~eia~ end Ch~ + majority would pzobably be Erom the area, but there was no weter to enter ~~ iaCO an agreumeat with Cl~e City to exclude unyone. Official Rase etated it wae his undaretanding if haadicapped, eldorly, etc. wore oa the wa![ing list, ehay vould seceive praferanee, but tfiey cauld not leave units opan waiting for nuch applicsate. Mo~~ndn Vf_ny pl~nntng Comminelon Page 5 July 3~ 1475 Commieeion Member Ooebel aeked ebout the msinCenanae prograoi apd expreeaod conenrn about rgpid deterioration. McKeana etatad many unice would bu Cownhousea and would havc Go be conetrucCad to Mn11FA and HUD quelity re- ~quiramaate. They vill coet £rom $30~000-35,Otl0 aud aould be eubJec2 to F eevere guideliaes of conecruction. HcKanna etatad 46 units of thia type elready exieC in Mouade Yiew i¢ varioue epartment compiaxee. Pag Mountin ataCed her concern thaee reeLdente maq prefer baing integratad into other complaxee than in a"xeservntion" Cype houeing. Commie~lon Member Fedor atatad it eo~nded good ae it ie helpful for people aeeding it, but he had a problem with it from a tex viewpoi.nt. Commieaion Membar 6laaec etated he t~ad e problem regarding timiag aince Mou¢ds View doae not currearly have a land uee p1an. Ne was coacerned thnt aeighboring cealde¢te ehould have a chance to commant 6efore tha Ctty beaomea commitCed r.o thle projact. MSP (Glazer/llaake) to tsbla this item uneil such time ao we can ravisw tha houeing plen with the pianning conealtane, Midweat P2aaning. 6 ayee AiCHGY LO AND PL6ASANT VIBH DRIVE SIGN~I,IZATIUN OfF3cia1 Roae explained thie matter had baea reviawe3 a number of moaehe ago. Subsequent to our £eadback, tha Dept. of Traacportation hae come up with anothet propoeal. making khe ma~ority of tha improvement in Spri¢g Lake Perk, theraby protecting Pleaeant VSew Dr. from abnormal impac[ uith no nEed tu eliminata tha neatby duplexae ne in the other proposal. ~~ Mr. 8vaa Crean~ MnDOT, and Joel &aCZ rapreeented MnDOT. Mr. Grean explained the propoeal wonld aloee,the madia¢ cut and accesa cut and relocate to tha other elde oP &wy. 10, raruuting eruELtc ~u ti~e aigurllzau Lnta~scctl.cn. Tha exie:ing situntio¢ with Cha iataraeoelon c2oee to Che interchange creates a tra£fic eafaty hazerd. Commiseion Member Glazar aeked what Spring Lake Pk's commentx ware. Mr. Green atated they were geaerally ia favor and thought they would diecuee i[ at thnir Council meeting this week. MSP (Haeke/Goebel) to racommand to Council they accept thie proposed eignalization that has 6ean presented at Hwy 1.0 aad Pleaeant VSew Dr. 6 ayee DEIS FOR NEW TRUNK NIGHIJAX 10 Official Roae indicatad the matter hed arisen by a cieizen'at the reoent Couucil meeting. The reeidanC asked Council to make a resolution on :he Hwy 30 iasue snd Council dtd not wlah to comp.ly. Peg Mountio atated aha hsd 6aen eepecially involvad in the iesue and had petitioned reeidents to datermine thelr feelinga on 3 alteruativas: no build, oostharn corrf.dor, oz up~rade pzeeent 10. She et~tnd ttra realdanC in quneCion is oppusc3 Ca norther cor.ridor and se.aln "uo build° Le a ~viable alternative, Other resideate favor the northarn carridor withuut a Red Oak intarchaage, aad the ganeral £eeling ie against upgrading presenC Flounds !~icv Planning Commioaion PaRa 6 luly 9, 1979 1tWy 10 ae it vould cut tha Citp In half and probably include a Aod Oek/ Silver Leka Rd. interchaqge. ~+!~ Of£icial Roee indlca0ed AtnDOT wiahcc to ser up neighhorhood maetinge which ~ 1'aould be baetcally informatio~ which thn raeidente ara Lntar¢etiud in. Peg Moutttin muggeatad they also give aCrent~on eo deaign, which tha reeidenta ara+ intereated in. Gehl Atdul Ruhman, TranapostaCion Plannnr for MetYO ~ouncil ahould be i¢cluded ae he aould provide Metoo ~ouncil rationale. YNDBPENDBNT SCHOOL DIS. 621--5 YEAR EDUCATION & CAPITAL YMPROVEMSNT PLAN Ofi•Scial Aoee expLained Diet. 621 had propoeed no C.:.P for the three echoole in Mounds Viev tor 197R-79 through 1982-83. 2 alemanCary echoole Would ba cloeing in 198081 with another in 1982-83. All Mounda Viow eahoole nad a higher percantage of eurollment. He indScated tlie Plan bouk would be available for Commieeion Membere to reviea end comment to Council ba~oro the naxt maeting. RAM3EY COUNTY 5-YEAR PAOGRAM 4fFicial Roae ntaCed Ramcey CouRty has propoeed imprvvamento exCending thr~ugla 1984 and Mounds View has prqpooed SmprovamAnCe Sn our 5-year stata aid consCruction program end it wo~ild ba d¢eiruble ko coordinete tham. MSP (Goabal/liaake) to recommend t accept Rea. ~951 and acC on Chat any ^ead for 4-laue improvemante Rd. S. Also, we do racommend the Ct. Rd. H2. o the Council we ask Che Hwy. Dept. to only. SpaciEically, we do noC anticipate on Lcng Lake Rd. from Cty. Rd. H to Cty. eignalization of Silver Lk, Rd. at b ayee SILVN,R VThW YAR~ Official 2ose explai¢ed thie park would be located at tha corner of Silver Ltc Rd, aad County Rd, I, Kraue-Anderaon ie intareated in developing the eouChwest Property and have indicatad they might Ue willing Co swap. They would like to improva the area to a lake and build reeidential around it. In doing uo, the City would l~se some naCUrel amenitiea, and would have to flatten out tha laad for ballparke, etc. The Park Commiseion hae x•eviawad and mada that reeomman~shion. If we ueu't coma Co en agreament, we caa purchaee that amounE of acreage and davelap [he park,ae originally planned. M~P (Haake/Glazer) Co reaommend to the Council we eccept thu offar mada by I;raue-Anderoon that tha Park & Rec. CommleaSon of Mounds Viow e~cchange the already purchaead 16.9 acres in tha souCliweeC corner fur 16,9 acree in approximately the northweat corner in addiCion to two more acquieikione immadiately ad]acanC to the aortheaeL• coraer: 1) 10 7, of land dedicated to Che Perk 6 Rec, fuad, and 2) ae many acres ao can be purchaeed with the $136,80C LA6fCON grant. If said acquisiCiooe cannoG ba made, then va recommand tha 1&'L additional acquieitione ae steted a6ova~ be appliod to hhe southweat corner ae originally plannad. We also racommend t6at when r.he sir.o is cliooen, titie Ciky eacure Crail aorridcr eaeementa through tha cat±re urpna-Anders~n yronarCy for accase to Silvar Viea Pk. from all four eides, p7us easemants araund propoead Oak Lk. Yk. YluLLl1LA$ Oow~iuoiou #~;would supporC the Kruus-Andoraon propoaal Eor low Co medium daneity ~hsd houeing for some poxce¢tage of tliair ptoperty davalopmant. k ayee 2 naye ,. Mouade View Planning Commiseio^ Pagc 7 July 3, 1979 Commiesion Ptember pedor atated he had voted nay bacauae he did noC believs tha park ehould be moved thut cloeo to HiQhway 10 and be compleeely sur- ' oundod by commercial. Cammisexon Member 6oabnl etated he had vol•ed aey , ~r the aame reaeon. ~ MSP (Saekn/BurmeleCer) to racommend to the Council Gha property located i in Che eouthwest carner of the Kraus-Andorson land, as iE bacomee ornn to ; developmeat bacausa o£ the park awap, ba dedicated as R-Y and that, iF [ha ! southuest corner ie retai~ed ae a park aite~ the aest side of 911ver Lake i Road ba dneignatad low danelCy rasidential. ~ 6 eyea FUTURE MEETINO3. NBXT AGENDA & PREVIOUB ACTIONS A diecuesion took place ragarding the poeaibiliCy of the Plaaaiug Commiseion havSng ageada mearinge. xl• wae dacided that meetings of thia typa wuuld take place at 7:20 PM L•or as many Commiseion ltembere as can be preeent, nad tde regular meetiags would begia at 7:30 PM. OPEiaial ~oee !n£orm~d ehe Commtaeion Atembers uf n ~oint mesting wlth khe Council, 9Caf.f and Midwaet Planaing on Augua:• 8 to preseat ehe outline whereiu the ~omprehensiva Plan wi71 ealce placo. At thle time Ohairperaon Hflake recommendad the minuees af Che Juna 30, 1979 Plancing Commiasioa Dieeting ba accapLed se corrected. MSP (Coabal/Fieamene) to racammand to Council we change the ordinance 40.05, ~bdivieion C, concarning eaCbac~ dietancee ae folloWe: "The fronL' yard tbask ~ietancee for R-1 and &~ d¢val.opm¢nt shall rauge fxom 30 to i0 faae. urther, eubparagraph a. of Subdivision C be chan@<d. to read: s S•]hc:c adjac¢ct strucCUiea ~aLCi~iu Che eama ~luck nave froat yaxd seCbacke diff.erenC from thoea required, ehe £r~n[ yard min~mum satback ehall ba a reaeonable average of the ad~aceqk structures. b. If there ~s only one adjacent atructure, tha £ront yard minlmum setback ehall be a reasonable average of the raquirad setbmck and the setbank of the ad~accrit etruct~arm." This aleo includas etrikiog tha laek ieateucu of Che paraqrapl~ of Sub- diviaion C. d ayea MSP (filazer/Goehal~ that a8eacius' andfor dapartment commante (i.u., ue on the ahapk-off 11sL prapared by Staff) Co davelopmenrc proposals ba auppliad Co tha Commiseion Membase bePora Planning Oommiesion conaideraCion, when so dACidad upoa by a majorit,y oE PLanning Commiasion MAmberc. 6 syae Tha intont of Chie motion ie to allow Cha Planntng CommSssian to moYe thoroughly review kho impact of petieionere'requaeta, ~ M9P (Haoke/Preamore) to ad~ourn the ~naeting nt 1:20 AM. 4 nyea ~ ~ ) Reapectfully aubmiCtad, ra./ r SCflVBR A• R088 ~ Suilding & Zoning Official G Y