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Home My WebLink About1985-11-06 PC Minutes PROCGEDING9 OF THE PLANN2NG COMMISSTON (~~, CITY OF MOUNDS VIF.W RAMSEY COUNTXr MTNNE90TA Regular Maeting November 6, 1985 Mounde View City Hall 2901 Hwy. 10, Mounds View, MN 55112 _~~e_-___-°,___-__-__°_____________`_____---~-__--_~-__-__`___°-_~°___--_ The Mounda Yiew Planning Comrtiseion w~s call~d to 1. Call to Order. oxder by Chairman Mountin at• 7Y32 PM on November 6, 1985. MEMBBRS PAESENTt CommSesionere Zollner, Anderson, M ler an Cha rman Mountin. ~t was noted that Commiasioner Forslund had an excused absence, AL30 PRESF,N2's Public Works/COnununity Devel.~•:pment D rector m atcher. Motion Second: 2~]].nnr/Anderson to approve the eptem r 4, 1985 minutes ae presented. I -4 ayes 0 nays Thexe wexe no rasidents requ~ate or aommente from the £loor. '; Dir9etor Thatcher reviewed the request o£ Ered ; ~ Hillyer, of Instant Oil'Chang~, for a dQtermi.nation on the indtallution of a pedeatal oign on his proparty at Highway 10 ai~d Groveland Road. He explained Mr, Hillyer had installed a temporary sign a year ago, snd paid the Eee at that time, and he has aince ~urchaoea the sign. The ordinance allowa only three ii 20 day periods per year for temperar.y eigns, and the Council at this time ie leaninq toward not allowing temporarp Rigns at all, tie asked for an intarpre- tetion by the Plannin9 Commissioix of the intont oE the coda, and wk:at they would like to see. Eie also explained that as the request from the app~i- -~ant ia not exprassly permitad in tha co@e, i~t is i , ~nsidered to be denied. 2. Roll Call 3. Approval oE ~ 14inutier3: September 4', 1985 Motion Carried 9. Ree~.dente Req~leats and CQmments £rom " ahe Flor~r 5. Consideration of BtaE£ Memo Regarding Chapter 39 , _. . ~ , . , ,. .. „ ~, . . ,,. I4oundA View Planning Canunisel.an November 6, 1925 ReguZar Mt~eting Paqe Two _°__-____~__~__.e~~..-_~_^-~---^°_-°____'~__^___--__._ _......_-___,.~.,____°____ Hillyer axplained tha mai.n eign ie on Grovaland ,x„, ad and ano!:her on Hiqhwap 10, tIe etat~ad 'ne has Ewo separato buaineeees on the prape~ty, and he Would like to maintaln the pedeetal eign and go to the other end of the lot and put ap the exletinq eign and make it permanen6 nn a mount. Chaisman Mountin stated ahe agrr,ad the code ia poti alear, she pointed out th•>,t the hiatory hae been to not allow more than one aign per buaineu~ lot, and gave Mounda View 3quare as an example, where thece is one pedeetal siqn, then each bueinaes has their ewn fiueh-mnunt sign, which is the intent of the ordinance. 3ha addad that many oities are eliminating peder~tal aigns completely~ and going with fluoh-mount. Diractor Tk~atcher explained Mr, Hillyer has been very cooparative ir~ trying to work with the City and abide by the codee. He also rov,iewed sectiono of the code and how they could ba interpreted. Mr. Riillyer. asked if it would Ua aoneidered difEerently if tha eign wae mounted on a base, and explained he hae alraady had a pole mount made. Ho adde3 that if __the Plar.~ing Cc::unis~sl.on s~ill allow hin tp e•=ect his '~ign, he would be willing to take it down if they ~,ater felt it was an eye sore, and he would be wiiling to put that into writing. llirector Thatcher pointed out the codp does addresa ground signa, and there are many ways to loak ah. the ordinance and interpret it. He added they could passiblp a,Llow br~th pedestal and ground signs on a piece of pnoperty, Mr. Hillyer atated he could not nf.re.r,tively advertise both the bueinesaes on une ai.gn. Chairman kIountin ranindad the Commiseioners they must aonsider the nuieance tactors, eafety faatnra, and tha Y.ueinoaeman's right to advertise liie husiness. It wae the concensus of the Planning Commtssion to discuae ~he i,saue further at the next agenda sessiott. It wae noted th3t Mr. Hillyer hae not applied for a code appeal. They a1HO advised Mr. Hillyer of the time that would be involved if they were to change the code. I pirector Thatcher Advised that the City could i,seue ~--~+9x. Hillyer a temporary permit at this time, but they I~uld not 6e abJ.a to after the oroposed code reviaian ~ ich bans tem~orary aigns goas into effect after , January 1, 1986. i #,.«~~..>. ao.. Mounds View P.Lanninq Commiesion Ragular Meeting ---___ ___ _..-_-`..----- °--........ _ e_ _a __---_ _ _,..---° °-° -- ~'~4.erk/Admini~trator Pauley made a preeentation to he Plc+nning Commieeion regarding eeveral parcele oE properky locate8 in the trinngular eeotion houndod by Hiqhway 10, Comaty Aoacl I an3 Silver LRke Road. He explained eevera]. ownere have recently deaided to soll, and it would benefit the City to make it in~n one pa:ael, whinh could be 3evelo}~ed within the City'e wiehea. He added there ia a developer preaently who ie interested in purchaainq the antire ar~ae and aeveral more devalopere who have als~ exprr~rsaed en Lnterattt. Clerk/A@min~.etrr.tor Pauley utated that.ideally what the City would lika ta ae~ in that r~rea would be r~n oEfice complex. Ho added that one ownar has stated he does not care to ssll ab thie time, hut h3 telt that could ba wnrked around. He also atated ttiat the City would be offering tax increment flnancing or industria~ ravenue bonds tn tha developer, as an incen~ive to develop there, Clesk/Administrator Paulep stated he was requ3red by law to conault with the Planning Commiosion beEore the public hearing, cahich ip alzeady aeheduled, and to get their feedback'. %-, ommiseionar Zollner stated al;e was vory concerned ~~-'with the City giving handoute to businesses that want to develop within the City. She stated nha did not believe in eubsidizing big businase, giving them a co~rpet+.tive edge over emaller busin~ssetr. She filso pointed out there is a good $oal of vacant office epeca in other parta of'thr~ mek.ro area and queationed whether there was enough demand ta build additional oEfice space. Chairman Mountin stated that Mvunda View has not bs3en succeesful in getting many bueineeses ihto tha City, and if tliis is the vehicle that will allow the City ta move forward, she would be in favor of i.t. Clerk/Adminietrator Pauley explained that it ie a common practice for citiea to offer financial incentivea and packages Y.o developers, to get them to build within tha city. He gave saveral examplea of what other citieo have ofEered, and how competitive the field is. It was the cc~ne=.nsues of the Planning Commiaeion that this idea oP wmbininQ all the loL•s iirtr, one parcel ~-utas qood from a planning point of view. ti../ November 6~ 1985 Pege Three _.._..__________.._ G, ereeAnEation by Cierk/Adminietra- tor Pauley s~o,~,..w ,., . ~ ,,.,,,. , ,~. , ~ . . , . ,. ., . . ,,. . , ,~ ., ~<,...~. ,r<.,, . ~ „.. . '1a• . . ' Moun3e Viaw Plan:~ing Commieaion Rogular Meeting --'-_-~"---~ ~^----°~ -'---°- °-..-~-~ °--~..~ airmun Mountin etated she feels tha Planrting _,: nunission 1s hear.lnq about things vc~ry late, or a~ter tha faqt, and ahe would like more notification and conaideration £rom the Citiy Council. Clerk/Adminiatrator Pauley expleinad that meny thinga move very qul.ckly, and he will esk Director Thatcher to keep the Planaing Conuniseion apprised as to what is goinq on. The Commiesioners expressed concern over how to eneure that the fence ie cnoved, and changed thA propoae8 resolution to etlpulabe that it must be moved bef.ora the City approvea tho minor subdiviaion. Motion/3econds Andereon/Miller to adopt aesolution No,~ 8-~ecommending approval to the City Council of Mounda View Planning Case No. 182-85, a minor subdivision for 2609 County Aoad T. 4 ayoa 0 naye Novetnber 6, 1985 Paga Four _ ^- °----^ ~---.... ~---~ 7. Phyllis Leenerts 2609 CounL•y Rd i Caee No. 182-85 Motion Carried It waa agreed ko carry discussion on hazardous wastes 8, qctiun Itema `ver te tha next aganda sassicn, when e11 rnm;nissioners ~~ould ba preeent. Director Thatcher raported the attendaes at the 9. Chair~an!e Or,tober ib, 1985 acend~ seeslon wcse Cainmiosioners Ropert Andesaon, Mi].ler, Forslun8, Zollner, Chairman Mountiu and himself. , Director Thatcher reported he would be sending in 1G', ~taff Repnrt tk,e, eegiatrations foz the Planninq inetitute conferenr,o. The [~lanniag Commissfon meeting was adjourned at 11, Adjournment 9c35~ PM. Respectfully submitted, ~ ~/~% ~~~~;~r"' Stet~en Thatcher Puhlic Works/Community Dovelopment Director '~/ ~ i .,..... , . ,:...„».. ,,,.,:.,~„ „ . .. . :...:.. . ....: ... . ... ... ~, .. ,: , . ,_,.,, . , , .:. , - ., ..