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PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
September 6, 2000
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Peterson at 7:03 p.m., September 6, 2000.
2. Roll Call
Members Present: Chairperson Peterson, Commissioners Berke, Hegland, Johnson, Miller, and
Stevenson.
Members Excused: Commissioners Kaden and Thomas.
Also Present: Planner Jim Ericson, Community Development Director Rick Jopke and Council
Liaison Rob Marty.
Index to Minutes Page
Planning Case No. VR00-005, Discussion and Consideration of
Resolution No. 631-00, a Resolution Approving a Front Yard
Setback Variance Craig Walters, 8141 Edgewood Drive, Applicant. 2
Planning Case No. VR00-006, Discussion and Consideration of
Resolution No. 632-00, a Resolution Denying a Side-yard Setback
Variance for Jim Trapp, 8018 Sunnyside Road, Applicant. 4
Planning Case No. VR00-007, Discussion and Consideration of
Resolution No. 633-00, a Resolution Approving a Parking Lot
Setback Variance for Tony Mezzenga, 7664 Greenfield Avenue, Applicant. 7
Planning Case No. MI00-002, Discussion and Consideration of
Resolution No. 634-00, a Resolution Recommending Approval of
a Minor Subdivision of 2474 and 2488 County Road H2, requested
by RTM Management, Inc., Applicant. 16
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Planning Case No. PD00-002, Discussion and Consideration of
Resolution No. 635-00, a Resolution Recommending Approval of
Development Review for the Mermaid Planned Unit Development,
requested by Dan Hall, 2200 Highway 10, Applicant. 18
Planning Case No. 560-99, Discussion and Consideration of
Resolution No. 636-00, a Resolution Recommending Approval of
an Extension of a Conditional Use Permit for an Assisted Living
Senior Residential Facility at 2670 County Road I, requested by
MSP Real Estate, Applicant. 20
Staff Reports / Items of Information. 21
Chairperson and Planning Commission Reports. 23
3. Citizen’s Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
There were no citizen requests or comments on items not on the agenda.
4. Approval of Minutes
A. July 19, 2000
MOTION/SECOND: Stevenson/Miller. To approve the July 19, 2000 meeting minutes as
corrected.
Ayes – 6 Nays - 0 Motion carried.
5. Planning Case No. VR00-005
Property Involved: 8141 Edgewood Drive
Discussion and Consideration of Resolution No. 631-00, a Resolution Approving a Front Yard
Setback Variance
Applicant: Craig Walters
Craig Walters, the applicant, was present.
Planner Ericson gave the Staff report as follows:
Craig Walters, property owner of 8141 Edgewood Drive, has applied for a variance to encroach
into the front yard setback to allow for the construction of a 308 square-foot addition onto the
north side of his house. The house, which was constructed in 1946, was built at an angle on the
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lot and is setback 24 feet from Edgewood Drive. The proposed addition would match the
existing building and roof lines to maximize interior functionality and for aesthetic appeal.
For the Planning Commission to act favorably, there must be a demonstrated hardship or
practical difficulty associated with the property that makes a literal interpretation of the Code
overly burdensome or restrictive to a property owner. State statutes require that the governing
body review a set of specified criteria for each application and make its decision in accordance
with these criteria. These criteria are set forth in Section 1125.02, Subdivision 2, of the City
Code. The Code clearly states that a hardship exists when all of the criteria are met.
Planner Ericson presented the seven criteria and Staff’s response to each as outlined in his
report. He explained that according to the City Code, all of the preceding criteria shall be
satisfied in order to justify the granting of a variance. He indicated that it appears to Staff that in
this case all requirements are met and that a hardship does exist. Staff is recommending that the
Planning Commission approve Resolution 631-00, a resolution approving a variance for a
reduced front yard setback to allow for the construction of a 308 square-foot addition at 8141
Edgewood Drive, as requested by Craig Walters.
Chairperson Peterson opened the public hearing at 7:08 p.m.
The applicant did not add any comments.
Mike Doss of 2416 Laporte stated he lives just north of the applicant and asked why there was a
need for the variance. He indicated that he and the other neighbors feel that this process is a
waste of time and money and they support the project. He also asked why the house was not
“grandfathered in” under the old Code.
Chairperson Peterson explained that the house is grandfathered in under City Code but any
proposed changes to the structure would have to comply with current Code and that is why the
variance is required. He then went on to state that he agreed the process may appear a bit
unnecessary in this instance.
Commissioner Miller indicated that she sees no problem granting the variance as the house
existed prior to adoption of the new Code. She then requested that Staff change the resolution to
correct the typographical errors indicated.
Chairperson Peterson indicated that he sees no problem with granting the variance request.
Chairperson Peterson closed the public hearing at 7:13 p.m.
MOTION/SECOND: Stevenson/Berke to approve Resolution 631-00, a Resolution Approving a
Variance for a Reduced Front Yard Setback to Allow for the Construction of a 308 square-foot
Addition at 8141 Edgewood Drive, as requested by Craig Walters.
Ayes – 6 Nays - 0 Motion carried.
6. Planning Case No. VR00-006
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Property Involved: 8018 Sunnyside Road
Discussion and Consideration of Resolution No. 632-00, a Resolution Denying a Side-yard Setback
Variance
Applicant: Jim Trapp
Jim Trapp, the applicant, was present.
Planner Ericson gave the Staff report as follows:
Jim and Judy Trapp, property owners of 8018 Sunnyside Road, have applied for a variance to
encroach into the required side yard setback to allow for the construction of a deck and gazebo in
their rear yard. There is presently a deck in the rear yard three feet from the property line. The
Trapps would like to extend the deck an additional two feet (one foot from the property line) and
construct upon it a gazebo, also one foot from the property line.
While decks are currently allowed to be setback two feet from property lines, gazebos (which are
treated as outdoor accessory buildings in terms of their setback requirements) are required to be
set back five feet from a side or rear property line. The property owners of the adjacent property
had previously obtained a variance to place a garage one foot from the property line.
For the Planning Commission to act favorably, there must be a demonstrated hardship or
practical difficulty associated with the property that makes a literal interpretation of the Code
overly burdensome or restrictive to a property owner. State statutes require that the governing
body review a set of specified criteria for each application and make its decision in accordance
with these criteria. These criteria are set forth in Section 1125.02, Subdivision 2, of the City
Code. The Code clearly states that a hardship exists when all of the criteria are met.
Planner Ericson reviewed Staff’s assessment and interpretation of the criteria. .
Exceptional or extraordinary circumstances do not apply to this property in that the
property owners have caused the conditions which necessitate approval of a variance.
The literal interpretation of the Code would not deprive the applicant of rights commonly
enjoyed by others in the district in that the setback requirements do not prohibit the
addition of the gazebo, only its requested location.
The special conditions or circumstances result from the actions of the applicant.
Granting of this variance would confer a special privilege to the applicants in that the
Trapps are responsible for the conditions that necessitate the variance.
Granting this variance for a gazebo one foot from the property line would be materially
detrimental to the purpose of this Title or to other property in the same zone in that it
would result in the gazebo being located less than two feet from the neighbor’s garage.
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While the gazebo would not impair a supply of light or increase congestion, there is a
possibility that in its proposed location, it could increase the danger of fire or endanger
the public safety due to the minimal two-foot separation from the neighboring garage.
In accordance with Minnesota Statutes and the Mounds View Municipal Code, because it
appears that all of the identified criteria have not been met, Staff recommends denial of this
variance request. Staff is recommending that the Planning Commission approve Resolution 632-
00, a resolution denying the variance request of Jim and Judy Trapp to construct a gazebo one
foot from the north property line of 8018 Sunnyside Road.
Chairperson Peterson opened the public hearing at 7:25 p.m.
Jim Trapp of 8018 Sunnyside Road stated that he was told by Building Official Connie Forsythe
that since his neighbors got a variance to build their garage one foot from the property line, that
should not negatively affect his request for a variance. He also indicated that this is the first that
he has heard that his gazebo would be only two feet from the garage and he agrees that this
might be too close.
Mr. Trapp said that he has lived in the neighborhood for 26 years, has good relationships with
his neighbors, and doesn’t want to hurt those relationships. He explained that he wants the
gazebo because he is semi-retired, spends a lot of time out by his pool, and would like to be in a
screened in environment because he is highly allergic to bees. He indicated that it would not be
the “end of the world” if the variance was denied.
Chairperson Peterson added that he was on the Planning Commission when the variance request
for his neighbor’s garage was granted and that situation was unique because the trees on the lot
were such that many of them would have had to be removed to build the garage if the variance
was not granted.
Gary Andrew of 8045 Sunnyside Road stated that he is a building contractor and inquired as to
whether there was a limit to the number of buildings allowed in a back yard.
Chairperson Peterson explained that the number of allowed accessory buildings is three.
Mr. Andrew stated that he had to get a permit to build his shed and indicated that Mr. Trapp had
built a shed without a permit, right on the property line, until one of the neighbors became upset
and he had to move it. He indicated that from his house, he would be looking right at the gazebo
and there is not enough space between the gazebo and the garage so he feels that it is an unsafe
situation.
Mr. Andrew said he understands why Mr. Trapp would like a gazebo and he is just wondering
how many structures in Mr. Trapp’s back yard are enough.
Chairperson Peterson closed the Public Hearing at 7:31 p.m.
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Chairperson Peterson clarified that all variances have to meet the hardship criteria in order to be
approved.
Commissioner Johnson asked if the Planning Commission has ever allowed a variance for a
gazebo to be closer than two feet to the property line.
Commissioner Stevenson said they have never allowed a variance for a gazebo and indicated that
in the past they have allowed variances for decks but not gazebos. He said that he doesn’t
believe the variance would be approved even if there were no garage on the property line.
Chairperson Peterson asked for a clarification on the exact location where the gazebo would be
built.
Commissioner Hegland asked what was on the south side of the pool.
Planner Ericson indicated that there is a house addition.
Chairperson Peterson asked if there was another location where the gazebo could be placed. He
asked if it could be built on the south side of the pool.
Mr. Trapp indicated that it might work to locate the gazebo on the south side of the pool.
Planner Ericson indicated that City Code now allows for three accessory buildings, but added
that a gazebo is not considered an accessory building.
Commissioner Johnson indicated that he recalled when the Planning Commission worked on
Ordinance 664 they did not consider a gazebo an accessory structure because it is very seasonal
and not used for storage.
Commissioner Johnson indicated that he would like to grant the variance but the situation does
not meet the Code requirements. He then indicated that the Planning Commission likes to help
people improve their property but he feels he can’t consider approval of this request because it
would be too close to the property line and it could be located elsewhere on the lot.
Commissioner Miller stated that in order to grant the variance the applicant has to meet certain
criteria and she feels that the criteria have not been met. She also indicated that Mr. Trapp has
created this situation and, therefore, is not entitled to a variance.
Chairperson Peterson stated that he does not believe the hardship requirement has been met in
this case. He stated that he agrees with Commissioner Miller that the Trapps made their own
situation. He stated that the fact the Trapps gave permission for the neighbor’s garage (even
though permission from him was not needed) does not entitle Mr. Trapp to a variance to now
build the gazebo.
Chairperson Peterson indicated that for fire safety reasons he would prefer to deny the variance.
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MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Stevenson to approve Resolution 632-00, a Resolution Denying the
Variance Request of Jim and Judy Trapp to Construct a Gazebo one foot from the North
Property Line of 8018 Sunnyside Road.
Ayes – 6 Nays - 0 Motion carried.
7. Planning Case No. VR00-007
Property Involved: 7664 Greenfield Avenue
Discussion and Consideration of Resolution No. 633-00, a Resolution Approving a Parking Lot
Setback Variance
Applicant: Tony Mezzenga
Tony Mezzenga, the applicant representing the property owner Ernest Gustafson, was present.
Planner Ericson gave the Staff report as follows:
Tony Mezzenga, representing the property owner Ernest Gustafson, is requesting approval of a
variance to construct a small, split-level office building on the undeveloped lot at the southwest
corner of County Road I and Greenfield Avenue. The variance is requested for reduced parking
lot and building setbacks.
This 13,068 square-foot property is zoned B-3, Highway Business. The size of the lot, however,
does present practical difficulties in terms of what can be developed, which has left the lot up to
this point unimproved.
County Road I is the second-most traveled roadway in the City. 1997 traffic counts show as
many as 8,700 vehicles use this part of County Road I on a daily basis and projections are such
that the volume is expected to increase as development progresses east of Interstate 35W.
This lot borders commercial property to the west (Tom Thumb and a Laundromat), high density
residential to the east, and low density residential to the south and north. The proposed office
use is consistent with the B-3 zoning designation and is a less intensive use which would fit well
into the predominately residential surroundings.
Planner Ericson advised that Staff has met with Mr. Mezzenga and Mr. Gustafson on numerous
occasions in an effort to draft a site plan that could be developed for the property. The size of
the lot and the extent of the setback requirements however are impediments toward that goal. He
presented the required setbacks in a B-3 district, noting the applicant has submitted a site plan
for a 3,480 square-foot split-level office building with 2,975 square feet of usable office space.
For that much area, the Code requires provision of 20 parking stalls. To construct a building of
that size and a parking lot to accommodate 20 vehicles, variances would need to be approved to
reduce the side and rear building setbacks from 20 feet to 10 feet and to reduce the parking lot
setbacks from 30 feet and 20 feet to 4 feet and 15 feet.
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For the Planning Commission to act favorably, there must be a demonstrated hardship or
practical difficulty associated with the property that makes a literal interpretation of the Code
overly burdensome or restrictive to a property owner. State statutes require that the governing
body review a set of specified criteria for each application and make its decision in accordance
with these criteria. These criteria are set forth in Section 1125.02, Subdivision 2, of the City
Code. The Code clearly states that a hardship exists when all of the criteria are met. Staff
responded to the criteria as follows:
Exceptional or extraordinary circumstances do apply to the property in that at only
13,000 square feet, the lot does not offer much area upon which to construct a viable
commercial business. This situation is further complicated by the fact that the parcel is a
corner lot that demands greater setbacks than would be otherwise required for an interior
lot. Last, the development potential of the lot was further reduced when the County took
ten feet of the property (1,320 square feet) for additional right of way.
The literal interpretation could deprive the applicant of rights commonly enjoyed by
others in the district because of the County-acquired 1,320 square feet, the large setbacks
and the size of the lot, the property owner has been unable to find a developer willing to
consider this parcel.
The special conditions or circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant.
Granting the variance requested will not confer on the applicant any special privilege that
is denied by this Title to owners of other lands, structures or buildings in the same district
in that this appears to be a very unique situation not applicable to many other properties
within the City. The applicant contends that in fact the reverse may be true, in that there
are many examples of reduced setbacks in the City, and that he should be afforded the
same consideration.
While it would be possible to construct a smaller office building and the required parking
on the site without the need for any variances, the resulting building would be too small,
according to the applicant, to make a viable development project. From the applicant’s
perspective, the variance requested is the minimum variance to alleviate the hardship.
In this situation, granting a variance for reduced building and parking lot setbacks would not
be materially detrimental to the purpose of the Code or to other property in the same zone.
The reduced setbacks would not impair a supply of light or increase congestion, nor would
it increase the danger of fire or endanger the public safety or diminish property values.
According to the City Code, all of the identified criteria shall be satisfied in order to justify the
granting of a variance. While it appears to Staff that in this case all requirements could be met
and that a hardship probably does exist, for the Planning Commission to act favorably, it must
find that all the criteria are satisfied.
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Planner Ericson explained that after reviewing the documentation and taking public testimony,
Staff is asking the Planning Commission to direct Staff to draft a resolution approving the
variance either as requested or as compromised, or to draft a resolution denying the variance
request. If the Planning Commission so chooses to approve the variance, Staff has included a
draft resolution that can be acted upon as is or with any modifications as deemed necessary.
Chairperson Peterson opened the public hearing at 7:50 p.m.
Herbert Zworn of 7660 Greenfield Avenue explained that his property would be the most
affected by the development of the lot. He then explained that he currently spends several hours
a month maintaining his property due to trash and other debris that is thrown in his yard by
people who cut through his lot and the undeveloped lot to get to Tom Thumb.
Mr. Zworn explained that there is an additional problem along the back of his property because
Tom Thumb does not maintain the area around the privacy fence that separates his lot from the
Tom Thumb lot. He indicated that he has many problems with Tom Thumb and feels another
commercial building will only increase the problems he has to deal with because the commercial
property owners/developers do not maintain their property.
Mr. Zworn indicated that his front windows look directly out into the vacant lot and a two-story
structure will obstruct his view. He also indicated that he would be looking at an eight-foot
privacy fence out of one-half of the front window.
Mr. Zworn asked the Planning Commission to restudy this project and implement other policies
or designs, or vacate the idea because he feels that the property owner/developer and the
Commission are attempting to put a “square peg in a round hole.”
Chairperson Peterson told Mr. Zworn that Tom Thumb should be working with him to alleviate
foot traffic across the property.
A member of the audience stated that only half of the people within 350 feet were notified.
Chairperson Peterson inquired of Staff as to whom and what addresses the notices were mailed.
Planner Ericson advised of the number of properties on each adjacent street that were notified of
the public hearing.
Chairperson Peterson stated that the foot traffic to and from Tom Thumb should not be
happening. He told Mr. Zworn that the City and the developer in this case do not want to make
his situation worse and, in his opinion, developing the lot and placing a fence around the
property would prohibit foot traffic to and from Tom Thumb and, thus, improve the situation Mr.
Zworn is in.
Colleen Olson of 7641 Edgewood Drive stated that she is not directly adjacent to the property
but she objects to the variance because her neighborhood is already very congested and
developing this lot will add to that congestion. She said she feels that this variance would give
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the property owner an unfair advantage and she feels he should stay within the small property
guidelines as established by current City Code.
Dawn Little of 7658 Greenfield Avenue stated she would like the City to assure immediate
occupancy once the lot is developed so that building does not sit vacant.
Ms. Little stated she is also concerned that the parking lot lights will be bright and light up her
yard.
Ms. Little indicated that she feels the tenants at the apartment building will cut across the lot and
there will be a bigger problem with graffiti and trash. She asked if the developer or owner of the
building, when developed, would be local and available to handle problems as they arise.
Chairperson Peterson indicated that Mr. Mezzenga, the applicant/developer, lives in Shoreview
and the property owner lives in Mounds View.
Ernie Gustafson of 2525 County Road I, the property owner, stated he has owned the property
since 1942 and has lived in Mounds View since 1945. He stated that in 1978, he presented a
plan to the City Council with 20 parking places but the Council demanded 22 parking places so
the lot was not developed. He said that for 22 years he has been paying very high taxes on the
property and if the Council had approved the variance in 1978, the City and Ramsey County
would have benefited from the taxes the building would have generated.
Mr. Gustafson indicated that the path goes through his property and people from Greenfield
Avenue walk across his lot to the Tom Thumb store and when they leave the Tom Thumb store
with their goods they toss their garbage onto his lot. Mr. Gustafson stated that this is the main
reason he wants to build something, to eliminate the path.
Mr. Gustafson pointed out that Tom Thumb has their parking lot one foot from the property line.
Mr. Gustafson explained to the Planning Commission that he has received letters from the City
to pick up trash on the property and he is sure that all of the trash on the property originated at
Tom Thumb but he had to pick it up or incur costs to have it picked up.
Mr. Gustafson said that in the winter, when it snows, the Tom Thumb store plows snow onto his
vacant lot. He said he is tired of them doing this and would like to put a fence up around the
office building and eliminate the problems. Mr. Gustafson then told the Planning Commission
that in 1988, the City and County of Ramsey took 10 feet from his property to add the sidewalk
and he got nothing for the property they took.
Dick Palmatier of 7639 Edgewood Drive inquired as to why this piece of property was zoned
commercial when the other properties, aside from the Tom Thumb lot, are zoned residential and
would like to know if it is too late to rezone the lot as residential and have it developed as such.
Chairperson Peterson indicated that every property in the City has a designated use and
corresponding zoning. This lot is guided commercial and the Planning Commission agrees with
the designation.
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Mr. Palmatier indicated that the setbacks and variances in effect for the property would prohibit
any commercial development.
Chairperson Peterson indicated that changes to the Zoning Code pertaining to setbacks and the
taking of some of the property posed some practical difficulties in terms of development.
Mr. Palmatier asked if the four feet is from the curb or from the sidewalk.
Planner Ericson indicated that the setback is from the property line. He then asked Mr.
Gustafson how much space is between the sidewalk and property line. Mr. Gustafson indicated
that it was approximately five feet.
Mr. Palmatier asked how far the parking lot would be from the street. Chairperson Peterson
indicated that it was approximately 20 feet from the parking lot to the street.
Mr. Palmatier indicated that he feels there would be congestion and traffic tie-ups as a result of
having an entrance on County Road I. He indicated that they had a similar problem with
Highway 10, now County Road 10, and a stoplight had to be installed to alleviate the situation.
Chairperson Peterson stated that the traffic on County I is heavy and in that context he feels that
residential would not be desirable.
Commissioner Johnson indicated that rezoning the lot to residential would not benefit the City
and it is not being considered at this time.
Planner Ericson indicated that while the lot is zoned commercial, there is a limit to the volume of
traffic that could be generated from this site. He said that Staff is not concerned with potential
traffic congestion because a small office building would not generate a large volume of traffic.
Planner Ericson also indicated that the property owner would have the right to request a change
of zoning but as of now, it is zoned commercial. In terms of single family homes or duplex, he is
not sure anyone would want to live there due to the location and based on the volume of traffic.
Tony Mezzenga addressed the pedestrian traffic issue by stating that cedar fences around the
property should tidy up the vacant lot and cut down on foot traffic. He said that he and his father
have some property in Spring Lake Park and he invited neighbors to check that property to see
that they keep things nice. He indicated that he will establish a relationship with his tenants and
assured the Planning Commission that the building would not sit vacant. Mr. Mezzenga stated
his opinion that once the lot is improved the people in the community will treat the property
better and not drop the trash. He stated that it does not make economic sense to build what is
allowed without the variance based on the cost to develop the lot. Mr. Mezzenga stated that he
and his father have a reputation for keeping their properties neat and clean.
Mr. Gustafson cited several other locations where the parking areas have no grass in between
parking areas adjacent to them. He said there is 18 feet of grass between the tar and curb on
Greenfield Avenue. Mr. Gustafson indicated, in regard to the driveway, the City Code says there
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should be 40 feet from the property line to where the driveway is and the drawings show that
there is 42 feet to the driveway.
Mr. Gustafson said that the amount of traffic that would come in from this development
wouldn’t be as much as the traffic that goes to Tom Thumb.
Herbert Zworn said that he did not want to stifle Mr. Gustafson’s ability to develop the property
but requested that the problems they have now be looked into and dealt with before allowing the
project to proceed.
Mr. Zworn said that the building will be two stories and that they will be able to look down on
his property infringing on his right to privacy. He noted he would be looking out at an office
building.
Chairperson Peterson closed the public hearing at 8:33 p.m.
Chairperson Peterson indicated that a property owner is allowed to develop on their property
what is allowed by City Code and, in this instance, the property is zoned for commercial
construction. He indicated that this is a problem property because it has remained vacant for so
many years.
Commissioner Johnson said that the Planning Commission is only looking at a parking lot
variance and whether they should approve the variance, not the building.
Commissioner Hegland indicated that it is also a building setback issue.
Planner Ericson indicated that none of the plans are final or approved and if the variance were to
be granted they would need to come before the Planning Commission and the City Council to get
approval of the plans.
Planner Ericson indicated that the property is used as a route to get to Tom Thumb because it is
undeveloped and he feels that once the lot is developed, the trash issue and foot traffic problem
would be eliminated.
Chairperson Peterson said that the two reasons it is a problem lot is that it’s vacant and there is a
problem maintaining it because of litter. He said that if Tom Thumb is not maintaining the fence
or the area around the fence, the City should get after them to maintain it.
Chairperson Peterson stated that as long as he has been on the Planning Commission the
property has been zoned commercial and changing it to residential at this point wouldn’t benefit
anyone. He stated he feels that commercial is a more appropriate use for the property.
Chairperson Peterson addressed the concern of cars driving across the lawn by noting there
would be curbs so driving across the lawn should be eliminated. He then indicated that the plan
is not final but is a concept or a proposed plan.
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Commissioner Johnson said that the property is zoned B-3 which would allow for a gas station
and fast food. He stated he thinks it would be preferable to have an office building as it would
generate less traffic than a fast food operation or a gas station.
Chairperson Peterson said he feels the proposal solves several problems and doesn’t cause any
additional problems. He agreed that cut through traffic must stop and the plan can be modified
to help alleviate foot traffic and graffiti.
Commissioner Stevenson indicated that the degree of the setback is his concern. He questioned
whether the four-foot setback is too much or not too much.
Commissioner Hegland said most of the comments have related to Tom Thumb and he believes
the problems of the property not being developed have led to more problems related to Tom
Thumb. However, if the property were developed, it would be less of a problem and should not
increase the current problems.
Commissioner Hegland said he is not sure how much variance to grant.
Chairperson Peterson stated that if the Planning Commission were to apply the zoning
requirement for parking lots prior to the change in late 1996 or early 1997, this request is closer
to what was allowed prior to the change.
Commissioner Berke indicated that this type of commercial use is perfect but he feels there is a
problem with the number of parking stalls and how much setback to grant. He requested that
Staff look into that issue.
Commissioner Johnson said that he agrees with the variance, noting if it were 1997, the variance
would have passed.
Commissioner Miller said that City Code does not specify for types of parking but uses a
formula that specifies a certain number of spots per square foot.
Chairperson Peterson asked Planner Ericson for different types of uses and the parking
requirements for them.
Planner Ericson explained the requirements for parking stalls per the City Code, noting the size
of the parking lot will dictate future use of the building. He also stated that an office building
does not generate much traffic and a future retail use would require more parking than would be
available under the current development plan.
Planner Ericson asked the developer to comment on the square footage needed to make the
project profitable.
Chairperson Peterson commented that there would be no advantage to the developer or the City
to build something that doesn’t work.
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Tony Mezzenga said that they originally were requesting 3,800 square feet. He said he feels the
square footage of the building he has proposed is reasonable and needed to cater to a wider
variety of possible tenants and in order to ensure that the building is leased out.
Commissioner Hegland asked Mr. Mezzenga how he felt about the parking issue.
Mr. Mezzenga indicated that he feels that there is wasted space and with an office building this
small the businesses that rent space will be small with few employees and clients. He envisioned
the building to be more of a “store front” for an insurance agent or someone who is at the office
sometimes but not all the time.
Commissioner Hegland asked how many tenants the developer is planning to accommodate in
the space.
Mr. Mezzenga indicated four tenants each using 800 or 700 square feet would basically be two
employees per offices. Mr. Mezzenga said it would be hard for him to go with less square
footage.
Chairperson Peterson asked the Planning Commission if they would like to have more
information or if they were ready to make a motion on the resolution.
Commissioner Miller asked if there was another way to configure the parking lot.
Planner Ericson indicated that he, the owner, and the developer had spent a lot of time trying to
reconfigure the parking lot and found there is no way to reconfigure the parking lot without
encroaching into the setbacks.
Commissioner Hegland asked for clarification on the setback if it was from the sidewalk or from
the street.
Planner Ericson indicated that the sidewalk is included in the County right-of-way and the
setback is from the property line, not the sidewalk.
Chairperson Peterson indicated that there is a 20-foot driveway listed and that would provide for
one car exiting and one car entering. He indicated that graffiti is a growing issue throughout the
City and the Police Department should be involved in resolving that problem. Chairperson
Peterson said he feels that if the lot is improved, there will be fewer people congregating and
causing trouble and litter problems.
Planner Ericson indicated that there is too much parking according to the developer. He
indicated that the City tries to plan for the worst case and the most cars that could possibly be
there at one time. He said they recently gave a manufacturing company a variance for one space
for 250 square feet. He said that in his opinion there isn’t a need for that much parking space
because such a small office building would not generate that much traffic.
Commissioner Hegland inquired as to other cities requirements for different types of commercial
uses.
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Planner Ericson indicated that other cities refer to things in a similar way. He explained that the
City Code does get specific for some types of uses but other cities lump all types of uses
together. He said that the City has a book by The American Planning Commission that shows
parking requirements across the country.
Commissioner Hegland requested a sampling of parking spaces per square foot requirements to
determine where Mounds View’s City Code falls and whether it requires more or less than the
national average.
Commissioner Johnson stated he thinks 20 spaces is too many for a small building like this and
he would like to see the applicant come back to the Planning Commission with more information
on parking.
Commissioner Stevenson asked if the applicant would be required to pay more fees to submit a
revised variance request.
Planner Ericson stated it would be one variance request and the City would not require more fees
from the applicant.
Commissioner Stevenson agreed that it was too large of a parking area for this small office
building and he would like to move to table the variance until the next meeting.
MOTION/SECOND: Stevenson/Hegland to table action on Resolution No. 633-00, a Resolution
Approving a Parking Lot Setback Variance for Tony Mezzenga, 7664 Greenfield Avenue until the
next meeting of the Planning Commission scheduled for September 13, 2000.
Ayes – 6 Nays - 0 Motion carried.
Commissioner Johnson said he would have preferred to approve the variance rather than table it.
Chairperson Peterson said he would like to determine how much parking space is really needed.
If less parking is needed then there would be more green space left.
Commissioner Stevenson said that if green space is preserved up front, there could be room to
expand the parking spaces if needed for future uses. He indicated that he would like the
applicant to come back with variables such as smaller parking areas with room to expand at a
later date.
Planner Ericson asked what the Planning Commission would like to see at the next meeting and
if a ten foot setback would be more favorable.
Commissioner Stevenson said he would like to see more green space on Greenfield Avenue.
Planner Ericson said they could create a variance so that each property line could have its own
setback. He said Staff would work on it and come back with several different proposals.
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Planner Ericson indicated that the next meeting on September 20, 2000 must be cancelled or
rescheduled due to a conflict. He asked the Planning Commission if they would like to schedule
a meeting for September 13, 2000 where they could hear this issue again.
Chairperson Peterson agreed that the setbacks were reasonable in 1997 and similar setbacks
should be reasonable now and that four feet is one possible solution. However, he would prefer
more green space if at all possible on the Greenfield Avenue side.
Mr. Mezzenga asked if the building could be bigger. The Planning Commissioners indicated
they would not favorably consider such a request.
Mr. Mezzenga commented that it would cost money to table and delay.
A consensus was reached to schedule a special Planning Commission meeting on Wednesday,
September 13, 2000. Commissioner Stevenson indicated that he would not be able to attend the
meeting.
8. Planning Case No. MI00-002
Property Involved: 2474 and 2468 County Road H2
Discussion and Consideration of Resolution No. 634-00, a Resolution Recommending Approval of
a Minor Subdivision of 2474 and 2468 County Road H2
Applicant: RTM Management, Inc.
Raymond McManus, the applicant representing the property owners, was present.
Planner Ericson gave the Staff report as follows:
Raymond McManus, representing RTM Management, Inc. and the property owners, James
Kuphal and Danine and David Super, are requesting approval of a minor subdivision to
subdivide the rear 80 feet from 2474 and 2468 County Road H2 to create a buildable lot fronting
Irondale Road. Minor subdivisions are those divisions of land less than two acres in size in
which only one additional lot is created.
The area of the proposed subdivision is zoned R-1, Single-Family Residential. The minimum lot
size in this district is 11,000 square feet for an interior lot and 12,500 square feet for a corner lot.
The comprehensive plan designates this area as single-family detached. The applicant has
submitted a certificate of survey which describes the proposed subdivision.
The two existing lots on County Road H2 are 75 feet wide and 288 feet deep, both 21,600 square
feet in area. The proposed subdivision would create an 80-foot wide and 149-foot deep, 11,920
square-foot lot fronting Irondale Road. The new lot would conform to all Zoning Code
requirements and would be considered a buildable parcel. The two remaining lots--at 15,600
square feet--would satisfy the minimum lot size requirement.
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Staff has forwarded the Certificate of Survey to the City’s Engineering Technician as well as to
the Director of Public Works. Other than dedication of the perimeter utility easements, the
certificate of survey is in proper form. The City Attorney will review the Certificate of Survey
and any documentation needed to record the subdivision with Ramsey County.
Last, this subdivision is subject to park dedication requirements. The 5% fee is based upon the
Ramsey County assessed land value of the land subdivided, less the value of any land already
improved with single-family residential dwellings. In this case, the fee would apply to the
11,920 square feet of land at an assessed value of $1.23 a square foot. The extrapolated value
for the lot would be $14,662.00, five percent of which would amount to a fee of $733. This fee
would need to be paid prior to the City approving the subdivision.
Staff is recommending approval of Resolution 634-00, a Resolution Recommending Approval of
the Requested Minor Subdivision of 2468 and 2474 County Road H2, with stipulations regarding
the park dedication payment, revisions to the certificate of survey and recordation of the
associated documents with Ramsey County.
Raymond McManus indicated that the lot directly to the south is almost a mirror image of the lot
they are proposing and they will do whatever the City requires.
Chairperson Peterson asked that the Certificate of Survey be changed to indicate the correct
name of the street to be Irondale Street not Third Street.
Mr. McManus provided a corrected copy of the survey that indicated the street name change.
MOTION/SECOND: Stevenson/Miller to approve Resolution 634-00, a Resolution
Recommending Approval of the Requested Minor Subdivision of 2468 and 4274 County Road
H2, with stipulations as indicated.
Ayes – 6 Nays - 0 Motion carried.
Planner Ericson indicated that this will be considered by the City Council on September 25,
2000.
9. Planning Case No. PD00-002
Property Involved: 2200 Highway 10
Discussion and Consideration of Resolution No. 635-00, a Resolution Recommending Approval of
Development Review for the Mermaid Planned Unit Development
Applicant: Dan Hall
The applicant, Dan Hall, was present.
Planner Ericson gave the Staff report as follows:
Dan Hall is requesting City approval of the development review stage of the proposed Planned
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Unit Development to construct a 96-room hotel and a 500-seat banquet center to be attached to
and integrated with the existing complex.
The development stage plan is the second stage of a planned unit development process. The first
stage is the general concept stage, which was approved by the City Council on August 14, 2000.
The development review stage is the more detailed, in-depth review of the site plans, which are to
include landscaping, drainage, grading, utilities, signage, elevations, floor plans, photometric
analysis, etc. The final stage of the PUD is the administrative approval of the plans, PUD
Document, development agreement and any other documents associated with the proposed PUD.
The total area of the proposed PUD is approximately 10.7 acres, which includes the three
existing Mermaid parcels, the Rent-All parcel, the Perkins parcel, Music Off 10 and the dry
holding pond associated with the business park development. The existing business park access
drive from County Road H would be shifted to the west to maximize the contiguous parking area
for the proposed development.
The hotel is planned to be a four story, 96-unit AmericInn. Attached to the hotel would be a
“water park” which would offer in addition to the pool, a waterslide, hot tub, sauna, and a spacious
lounge area. Attached to the hotel and the existing Mermaid facilities would be the 14,714 square
foot banquet center, which would provide seating for as many as 500 people.
In addition to the PUD, the applicant has also applied for a major subdivision, which would
combine all of the subject properties into one platted parcel (presumably, Lot 1, Block 1,
Mermaid Addition). The preliminary plat for this request has not yet been submitted and thus
will not be contemplated at this meeting.
The Planning Commission has been provided with a set of plans date-stamped August 10, 2000,
for the proposed expansion. The plans include a preliminary site plan, a preliminary utility plan,
a preliminary grading plan, a proposed landscape plan, a floor plan, and a photometric analysis
of the site.
Planner Ericson presented Staff’s detailed analysis of the site plan and requested the Planning
Commission review and discuss the proposed plans for development and direct the applicant to
revise the plans as follows:
1. The site plan shall be revised to show a nine-foot wide bituminous trailway constructed
within the Highway 10 right of way no more than five feet from the Mermaid property and
a 40’ x 40’ triangular sign easement area at the corner of Highway 10 and County Road H.
2. The site and lighting plans shall be revised to show the installation of six ornamental
lights along the trailway within the Highway 10 right of way as noted herein.
3. The lighting plan shall be revised to show the light fixture specifications and light
standard heights to be used for exterior parking lot illumination.
4. The applicant shall confirm and clarify the status and plans for the existing mermaid statue
currently atop the building.
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5. The applicant shall provide detail for the proposed monument and building signage to be
used.
6. The applicant shall execute a sign easement document which dedicates to the City the area
to be used for a gateway sign at the corner of Highway 10 and County Road H.
7. An existing condition site plan shall be included with the development plans to indicate
the removal of the Perkins building and the removal of the two curb cuts serving the old
Rent All site and associated restoration of the right of way.
8. As required by the Planned Unit Development section of the City Code, the applicant shall
execute a development agreement pertaining to the Mermaid PUD, which will serve as the
guiding and controlling document for this development.
9. The landscape plan shall be revised to show the specific types and numbers of plantings to
be used within this development. The plan shall also show the addition of plantings in the
courtyard area between the pool and hotel structures. The landscape plan shall meet the
approval of the City Forester.
10. The applicant shall submit a materials board showing the exterior building materials to be
used on this development.
Planner Ericson indicated that items 1 and 2 have been satisfied. He noted that the draft
resolution would recommend approval with these ten stipulations plus an added requirement to
deal with the location of the fire hydrants with the approval of the Fire Marshall.
Planner Ericson indicated that the Planning Commission could take action tonight or next week.
He also noted that there would be a public hearing at the City Council level.
Dan Hall of 2200 County Road 10 said he views this as a small part of the project and would do
exactly what the Planning Commission requests. He then commented that he still doesn’t know
what to do with the mermaid statute. He indicated that his wish is to do something with the
statute but he’s not sure what because it has been around for 30 plus years. He said that he wants
to keep it on the property but give it a facelift.
Chairperson Peterson said that since the business name is Mermaid he does not object to the
mermaid remaining as long as it is appropriately updated.
Chairperson Peterson asked about the new plan for the County Road H parking setback being
changed in two places to five feet but remained one-foot in another area. He also indicated that
Mounds View was spelled incorrectly, noting it is supposed to be two words instead of one.
Commissioner Stevenson indicated that he has safety concerns on the trail way farthest from
County Road H because of the speed of traffic coming off of County Road 10 and the fact that it
is straight on with the turn lane. He asked if it was possible to reroute the trailway with a little
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bit of a bend so the bikers aren’t going quite as fast at that moment and the cars would also need
to slow if there was a bend added.
Truman Howell, the architect representing the applicant, said he had no problem with jogging
the trail and roadway to make it safer.
Chairperson Peterson asked if drainage from the site would be handled through natural gravity.
Mr. Hall indicated that the same grades will be maintained as are now in place.
Chairperson Peterson asked if the elevations are such that a gravity flow system would work.
Community Development Director Jopke indicated that the gravity flow system should work
properly.
MOTION/SECOND: Johnson/Miller to approve Resolution No. 635-00, a Resolution
Recommending Approval of Development Review for the Mermaid Planned Unit Development
requested by Dan Hall, 2200 Highway 10 with the required stipulations.
Ayes – 6 Nays - 0 Motion carried.
10. Planning Case No. 560-99
Property Involved: 2670 County Road I
Discussion and Consideration of Resolution No. 636-00, a Resolution Recommending Approval of
an Extension of a Conditional Use Permit for an Assisted Living Senior Residential Facility at 2670
County Road I
Applicant: MSP Real Estate
Milo Pinkerton, representing MSP Real Estate, Inc., the applicant, was not present.
Planner Ericson gave the Staff report as follows:
On September 13, 1999, the City Council approved Resolution 5345 which approved of a
conditional use permit for a 46-room, two-level assisted living senior residential facility at 2670
County Road I. The applicant, MSP Real Estate, Inc., has not yet commenced construction of
the approved facility, and the site remains unimproved at this point.
Section 1125.01, Subd. 3f of the City Code states that “Whenever, within one year after granting a
conditional use permit, the work as permitted by the permit shall not have been completed, then such
permit shall become null and void unless a petition for extension of time in which to complete the
work has been granted by the City Council. Such extension shall be requested, in writing, and filed
with the City Clerk-Administrator at least thirty (30) days before the expiration of the original
conditional use permit.” In addition, the Code states that a good faith attempt shall have been made
by the applicant to complete the work allowed for in the CUP.
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Milo Pinkerton has requested such an extension, citing economic and financial factors as the basis
for the delay. He indicates that a one-year extension would give them enough time to begin
construction.
Planner Ericson stated unless the Planning Commission feels strongly to the contrary, Staff is
recommending approval of Resolution 636-00, a Resolution Recommending Approval of the
One-Year Extension for the Conditional Use Permit to Construct a 46-room, Two-Story,
Assisted Living Senior Residential Facility at 2670 County Road I.
Commissioner Berke said that the management group proposed for this facility was closed down
in Wisconsin due to a staffing problem. He explained that the management group had told the
Planning Commission that they would be adequately staffed. He expressed a desire to revisit the
development plan if the extension is granted.
Planner Ericson indicated that the Commission could readdress the conditions of the project.
Chairperson Peterson stated that the aspects of the plan should be revisited to make sure
everyone is clear as to what they are promising versus what they will do.
Commissioner Johnson indicated that they should review the front door/lobby design as it opens
to Mounds View Drive. He indicated he believes that there should be a desk where you sign out
or a monitor so no one wanders out.
Commissioner Stevenson asked if they needed to revise the resolution to add the conditions to
revisit the front desk check out and level of staffing.
Planner Ericson indicated that if they don’t add the condition to the resolution and they grant the
extension it could be built tomorrow as originally proposed.
Planner Ericson advised that the resolution could be revised to add the phrase “subject to the
applicant reapplying for and obtaining approval of a development review.” Then all of those
issues can be looked at again.
MOTION/SECOND: Peterson/Berke to approve the revised Resolution 636-00, a Resolution
Recommending Approval of the One-Year Extension for the Conditional Use Permit to
Construct a 46-room, Two-Story, Assisted Living Senior Residential Facility at 2670 County
Road I subject to the applicant reapplying for and obtaining approval of a development review.
Ayes – 6 Nays - 0 Motion carried.
Planner Ericson advised that this will be considered by the Council on September 11, 2000.
11. Staff Reports / Items of Information
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A. Previous Council Actions
Community Development Director Jopke reported on previous Council actions. He advised that
the Council approved the items relating to Walgreens as well as some ordinance changes. The
tattoo ordinance held over to research an Anoka County ordinance regarding tattooing. The final
plat for the Walgreens development was held over because in preparing the final plat they
discovered Highway 10 was not where they thought it was.
Chairperson Peterson indicated he had heard there was a one-foot discrepancy.
Community Development Director Jopke indicated that there was a two-foot discrepancy.
The other issue was the Highway 10 study since jurisdiction was changed from the State to the
County. He said that the County has committed to working with the City to address traffic and
pedestrian safety issues. He indicated that Staff will present to the City Council a resolution
formally requesting that the County address the issues of lowering the speed limit, adjusting the
traffic signals, more and better signage, and improved visibility of crosswalks.
Community Development Director Jopke indicated that they are working with a consultant on a
Phase II work plan basically looking at short-term, long-term and intermediate items.
Chairperson Peterson said the County replaced the lights at County Road H 2 and it appears to
be helping.
Planner Ericson advised that the next Planning Commission meeting will be on September 13,
2000.
12. Chairperson and Planning Commission Reports
Commissioner Miller asked when Walgreens will begin construction. Planner Ericson stated
that could happen as soon as the final plat is recorded and approved by Ramsey County.
Chairperson Peterson noted the upcoming Fall Cleanup Day and reviewed the type of things that
can be recycled at no cost.
No other reports were considered.
13. Adjournment
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Peterson adjourned the
meeting at 10:20 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
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Rick Jopke
Community Development Director
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