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MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
March 2, 2005 -- 7:00 P.M.
REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approve Minutes: None
4. Citizens Requests and Comments Relating to Planning and Zoning Issues Not
Already Present on the Agenda
CITIZENS: BEFORE SPEAKING, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM,
AND GIVE YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES
5. Planning Case IU05-001
Consideration of an Interim Use Permit for a Temporary Structure (Tent) at The
Mermaid Located at 2200 County Road 10
6. Review Applications for the Vacant Planning Commission Seat
APPLICANTS: YOUR ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING IS REQUESTED.
PLEASE NOTIFY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AT
763-717-4020 IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND.
7. Next Planning Commission Meeting: March 16, 2005
8. Adjourn to Agenda Session
AGENDA SESSION
1. Review Minutes: February 2, 2005 and February 16, 2005
2. Staff Reports
A. Review Upcoming Hotel Expansion
B. Update on County Road 10 Corridor Improvement Program
3. Chairperson and Planning Commissioners’ Reports
Item No: 5
Meeting Date: March 2, 2005
Type of Business: Action
City of Mounds View Staff Report
To: Mounds View Planning Commission
From: James Ericson, Community Development Director
Item Title/Subject: Interim use Application for an Temporary Outdoor
Membrane Structure
Introduction:
Upon completion of the AmericInn Hotel construction and renovation of the existing facility,
the Mermaid erected a temporary outdoor membrane structure within which banquets,
receptions and other events have been held. At the time of erection, there were no zoning
regulations to address such a structure, and is typically the case in Zoning Codes, the
absence of an allowance constitutes a disallowance. Staff communicated with Mr. Hall and
explained that the City would need to consider new zoning regulations specific to temporary
outdoor uses such as what was erected at the Mermaid. In 2004, the City completed its
review and adopted new provisions with the passing of Ordinance 735. The ordinance is
attached for your reference and the requirements form the basis of this review process.
Discussion:
The process for reviewing an interim use permit for a temporary outdoor membrane structure
is the same as if it were a conditional use permit. That means that a public hearing will be
scheduled and notices sent to property owners within 350 feet of the subject parcel.
The specific requirements of the approval process are as follows:
1. The tent or membrane structure shall comply with all provisions of the Fire Code and
receive an annual fire permit issued by the Fire Marshal.
A fire permit will be required for this installation, procured on an annual basis. At the time
of fire permit application, the fire marshal will review the application and conduct an
inspection post erection.
2. The property owner shall annually apply for a Zoning Permit, the duration of which cannot
exceed 180 days.
He Applicant will need to apply for this permit annually along with the fire permit, to
ensure there are no changes or issues with setbacks, spacing, distances, etc. The
Mermaid structure is anchored to the concrete pad so it is not likely to violate any
setbacks.
3. Adequate parking to accommodate the occupancy shall be provided at a ratio of one
parking space per 40 square feet of tent area. (The City Council may waive the parking
requirement if it can be shown that the site has sufficient existing parking capacity.)
Mermaid Tent Report
March 2, 2005
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The Mermaid has eliminated the nightclub in the lower level of the facility thus freeing up
a substantial amount of parking during evening hours. The Mermaid’s parking demands
overall are satisfied with what is available and thus no additional parking should be
required.
4. The structure may not be located in or on a parking lot displacing parking stalls, unless it
can be shown that an adequate amount of parking remains.
The tent is and has been located in a courtyard area that had been planned for outdoor
events.
5. The tent or membrane structure shall be subject to same building setbacks as the
principal building on the lot. No tent or membrane structure shall be allowed instead of or
without a principal building.
The tent does not encroach into any required setback area.
6. The tent or membrane structure shall be limited in size to 5,000 square feet or 10 percent
of the principal buildings’ square footage, whichever is less.
The tent is 4,200 square feet and is much less than ten percent of the Mermaid floor
area.
7. The membrane or cover shall be constructed of a durable reinforced material to
withstand wind and snowloads.
There have been no problems with the tent’s reinforced membrane cover to date. The
membrane is removed during winter months.
8. The structure shall be anchored to the ground.
The tent structure is anchored to the ground as required.
9. The tent or membrane structure shall be maintained in a good condition. Deficiencies
shall be corrected as soon as practicable.
This condition will be added to the resolution recommending approval.
10. The IUP can be reviewed at any time by the City if problems arise which would
necessitate revision or termination of the IUP.
This condition also has been added to the resolution.
11. The IUP would become null and void if the property owner fails to comply with the
provisions of the permit or if the structure is removed for more than a one-year period, or
if the property undergoes a change of ownership.
Again, this condition has been added to the resolution.
Mermaid Tent Report
March 2, 2005
Page 3
Chapter 1125 Considerations:
Ordinance 735 indicates that a tent IUP application be reviewed similarly to a conditional use
permit as articulated in Chapter 1125 of the Zoning Code. The chapter requires that the
Planning Commission review and address any potential adverse effects which include, but
are not limited to, relationship with the Comprehensive Plan, geographical area involved,
potential depreciation, the character of the surrounding area and the demonstrated need for
such a use. Each of these potential adverse effects is listed below along with responses.
Relationship with the Comprehensive Plan. The proposal to maintain an outdoor temporary
membrane structure would not be inconsistent with the comprehensive plan, which guides
this parcel as regional commercial planned unit development.
The Geographical Area Involved. The applicant’s property is a nine-acre site with multiple
land uses associated. The general topography of the site is gently sloping to the south with
little variation. The stormwater from the site is routed to a regional stormwater pond west of
the Mermaid on the north side of County Road H.
Depreciation. No depreciation to the subject property or surrounding properties as a result
of the tent’s existence.
The Character of the Surrounding Area. The site is prominently located at the corner of
County Road 10 and County Road H. The tent however is located within a courtyard area and
is screened from all sides but the front by the Mermaid buildings. All of the uses in the general
area are commercial or retail with the exception of the Rice Creek Corridor and County open
space to the south.
The Demonstrated Need for Such a Use. The applicant has indicated that the need is
because he is better able to serve his clientele and attract different types of events.
Summary:
By virtue of the adoption of Ordinance 735, the Zoning Code now allows by interim use permit
temporary structures in commercial districts. The tent has been erected in previous years
without any issue from a zoning perspective and all of the ordinance requirements are
satisfied. The applicant has indicated that it would be his preference to have the approval be
for an indefinite time period so long as the annual conditions remain satisfied. Given the
positive history up to this point and the fact that the resolution will contain a provision that
allows for review of the IUP at any point, staff feels comfortable in recommending an open-
ended approval.
Recommendation:
Review the request for the Interim Use Permit to allow an outdoor temporary membrane
structure in the courtyard area at the Mermaid Entertainment and Event Center.
Mermaid Tent Report
March 2, 2005
Page 4
Staff is recommending approval of Resolution 787-05, which is attached for your
consideration. The resolution would recommend approval to the City Council with
stipulations as noted. If more information is needed before action can be taken, the
Commission may table the request pending receipt of the information.
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James Ericson
Community Development Director
This is a photo of the tent framework without the membrane cover
Zoning Map
THE
MERMAID
The Mermaid Site Plan
Membrane
Structure
ORDINANCE 735
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE MOUNDS VIEW ZONING CODE TO PERMIT
TEMPORARY TENTS AND MEMBRANE STRUCTURES IN COMMERCIAL &
INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, WITH AN INTERIM USE PERMIT
The City Council of the City of Mounds View does hereby ordain:
SECTION 1: This section shall represent a summary of Ordinance 735, adopted by the
Mounds View City Council on May 10, 2004, and shall be published along with the ordinance
title in lieu of the whole ordinance, consistent with the provisions of Mounds View City Charter
Section 3.07:
SUMMARY
Ordinance 735 adopts amendments to the Zoning Code to allow temporary
tents and membrane structures in the commercial and industrial zoning
districts of the City. Such uses shall be allowed by approval of an Interim
Use Permit (IUP), Fire Permit and Zoning Permit. The IUP may be approved
for multiple years, however the Fire and Zoning requirements limit such uses
to 180 days in duration in a given year. Tents and membrane structures are
limited to 5,000 square feet or ten percent of the principal building area,
whichever is less. Tents shall not displace parking needed for the principal
use unless it can be shown that an adequate number of parking stalls remain
for the temporary and principal uses. Tents and similar structures erected for
periods not exceeding one week shall not require an IUP, however Zoning
and Fire Permits are still required.
Ordinance 735, in its entirety, is available for public viewing at Mounds View City Hall and on
the City’s website at http://www.ci.mounds-view.mn.us/ords/735.pdf.
SECTION 2. Chapter 1112 of the Mounds View Zoning Code has been amended with
additions underlined and deletions stricken:
CHAPTER 1112 B-1, NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS DISTRICT SECTION: 1112.01: Purpose 1112.02: Permitted Uses 1112.03: Accessory Uses 1112.04: Conditional Uses 1112.05: Interim Uses
1112.05: INTERIM USES: The following are interim uses in a B-1 District requiring
an Interim Use Permit. An interim use permit must be obtained in accordance with
procedures identical in form and substance to the conditional use permit procedures
found in Section 1125.01, subdivision 3 of the Mounds View Municipal Code. Interim
Use Permits may be approved for a determined or undetermined period of time at the
sole discretion of the City Council.
Subd. 1. Temporary Tents and/or Membrane Structures, under the following
conditions:
a. The tent or membrane structure shall comply with all provisions of the Fire
Code and receive an annual fire permit issued by the Fire Marshal.
b. The property owner shall annually apply for a Zoning Permit, the duration of
which cannot exceed 180 days.
c. Adequate parking to accommodate the occupancy shall be provided at a
ratio of one parking space per 40 square feet of tent area. (The City Council
may waive the parking requirement if it can be shown that the site has sufficient
existing parking capacity.)
d. The structure may not be located in or on a parking lot displacing parking
stalls, unless it can be shown that an adequate amount of parking remains.
e. The tent or membrane structure shall be subject to same building setbacks
as the principal building on the lot. No tent or membrane structure shall be
allowed instead of or without a principal building.
f. The tent or membrane structure shall be limited in size to 5,000 square feet
or 10 percent of the principal buildings’ square footage, whichever is less.
g. The membrane or cover shall be constructed of a durable reinforced material
to withstand wind and snowloads.
h. The structure shall be anchored to the ground.
i. The tent or membrane structure shall be maintained in a good condition.
Deficiencies shall be corrected as soon as practicable.
j. The IUP can be reviewed at any time by the City if problems arise which
would necessitate revision or termination of the IUP.
k. The IUP would become null and void if the property owner fails to comply
with the provisions of the permit or if the structure is removed for more than a
one-year period, or if the property undergoes a change of ownership.
l. Exceptions:
(1) Tents or Membrane structures erected for periods that do not exceed
one week shall not require an interim use permit, however a zoning
permit and fire permit are required regardless of the time frame.
(2) To eliminate duplication of review, when a use (e.g., outdoor sales or
storage) would otherwise require a conditional use permit, an interim use
permit shall not be required if a tent or membrane structure is involved
and is addressed as part of the CUP.
SECTION 3. Chapter 1113 of the Mounds View Zoning Code has been amended with
additions underlined and deletions stricken:
CHAPTER 1113 B-2, LIMITED BUSINESS DISTRICT SECTION: 1113.01: Purpose 1113.02: Permitted Uses 1113.03: Accessory Uses 1113.04: Conditional Uses 1113.05: Interim Uses
1113.05: INTERIM USES: The following are interim uses in a B-2 District requiring
an Interim Use Permit. An interim use permit must be obtained in accordance with
procedures identical in form and substance to the conditional use permit procedures
found in Section 1125.01, subdivision 3 of the Mounds View Municipal Code. Interim
Use Permits may be approved for a determined or undetermined period of time at the
sole discretion of the City Council.
Subd. 1. All permitted interim uses as allowed in a B-1 District.
SECTION 4. Chapter 1114 of the Mounds View Zoning Code has been amended with
additions underlined and deletions stricken:
CHAPTER 1114 B-3, HIGHWAY BUSINESS DISTRICT
SECTION:
1114.01: Purpose
1114.02: Permitted Uses
1114.03: Accessory Uses
1114.04: Conditional Uses 1114.05: Interim Uses
1114.05: INTERIM USES: The following are interim uses in a B-3 District requiring
an Interim Use Permit. An interim use permit must be obtained in accordance with
procedures identical in form and substance to the conditional use permit procedures
found in Section 1125.01, subdivision 3 of the Mounds View Municipal Code. Interim
Use Permits may be approved for a determined or undetermined period of time at the
sole discretion of the City Council.
Subd. 1. All permitted interim uses as allowed in a B-2 District.
SECTION 5. Chapter 1115 of the Mounds View Zoning Code has been amended with
additions underlined and deletions stricken:
CHAPTER 1115 B-4, REGIONAL BUSINESS DISTRICT
SECTION:
1115.01: Purpose
1115.02: Permitted Uses
1115.03: Accessory Uses
1115.04: Conditional Uses 1115.05: Interim Uses
1115.05: INTERIM USES: The following are interim uses in a B-4 District requiring
an Interim Use Permit. An interim use permit must be obtained in accordance with
procedures identical in form and substance to the conditional use permit procedures
found in Section 1125.01, subdivision 3 of the Mounds View Municipal Code. Interim
Use Permits may be approved for a determined or undetermined period of time at the
sole discretion of the City Council.
Subd. 1. All permitted interim uses as allowed in a B-3 District.
SECTION 6. Chapter 1114 of the Mounds View Zoning Code has been amended with
additions underlined and deletions stricken:
CHAPTER 1116 I-1, INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT
SECTION:
1116.01: Purpose
1116.02: Permitted Uses
1116.03: Accessory Uses
1116.04: Conditional Uses
1116.05: Compliance with Other Provisions 1116.06: Interim Uses
1116.06: INTERIM USES: The following are interim uses in an I-1 District requiring
an Interim Use Permit. An interim use permit must be obtained in accordance with
procedures identical in form and substance to the conditional use permit procedures
found in Section 1125.01, subdivision 3 of the Mounds View Municipal Code. Interim
Use Permits may be approved for a determined or undetermined period of time at the
sole discretion of the City Council.
Subd. 1. All permitted interim uses as allowed in a B-4 District.
SECTION 7. This ordinance shall take effect thirty (30) days after the date of its
publication in the official City newspaper.
INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING by the City Council of the City of Mounds View on
this 26th day of April, 2004.
PUBLIC HEARING, SECOND READING and ADOPTION by the City Council of the City of
Mounds View this 10th day of May, 2004.
Jerry Linke, Mayor
ATTEST:
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Kurt Ulrich, City Clerk / Administrator
(SEAL)
Approved as to form:
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Mounds View City Attorney
MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
RESOLUTION NO. 787-05
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF AN INTERIM USE PERMIT FOR A
TEMPORARY OUTDOOR MEMBRANE STRUCTURE AT THE MERMAID LOCATED
AT 2200 COUNTY ROAD 10; PLANNING CASE NO. IU05-001
WHEREAS, Dan Hall has applied for an interim use permit for a temporary outdoor
membrane structure at the Mermaid, located at 2200 County Road 10; and,
WHEREAS, the subject property is zoned PUD, Planned unit Development, and has
a Comprehensive Plan future Land Use Map designation of Regional Commercial PUD;
and,
WHEREAS, the Mounds View Zoning Code allows temporary outdoor membrane
structures in commercial districts by interim use permit; and,
WHEREAS, the Mounds View Staff and the Planning Commission have reviewed
the zoning requirements associated with temporary tents in commercial districts and finds
that all conditions are satisfied by this request.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Mounds View Planning
Commission makes the following findings of fact related to the conditional use permit
request:
1. The request is consistent with the Mounds View Comprehensive Plan. 2. The request is consistent with the Mounds View Zoning Code. 3. The size of the structure is within permitted allowances and complies with setback provisions.
4. There have been no complaints filed regarding the use of the tent in the previous
year.
5. The applicant has sufficiently demonstrated that a need exists for the temporary
outdoor structure.
6. The site has adequate parking area available to satisfy the demands of the
temporary structure.
Resolution 787-05
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NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Mounds View Planning
Commission recommends approval of the interim use permit for an outdoor temporary
membrane structure with conditions as follows:
1. The tent or membrane structure shall comply with all provisions of the Fire Code
and the applicant shall apply for and receive annual fire permits issued by the Fire
Marshal and receive a satisfactory inspection.
2. The property owner shall annually apply for a Zoning Permit, the duration of
which cannot exceed 180 days in a calendar year.
3. The tent framework and membrane covering shall be maintained in a good
condition. Deficiencies shall be corrected as soon as practicable.
4. The interim use permit can be reviewed at any time by the City if problems arise
which would necessitate revision or termination of the permit.
5. The interim use permit will become null and void if the property owner fails to
comply with the provisions of the permit or if the structure is removed for more than
a one-year period, or if the property undergoes a change of ownership.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Mounds View Planning Commission
recommends that the permit approval shall remain in force indefinitely so long as the
conditions above and those of the Zoning Code remain satisfied.
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the Mounds View Planning Commission directs
staff to forward this resolution to the City Council prior to approval of the minutes.
Adopted this 3rd day of March, 2005.
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Gary Stevenson, Chairperson
ATTEST:
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James Ericson,
Community Development Director
(SEAL)
Item No: 6
Meeting Date: March 2, 2005
Type of Business: Review
City of Mounds View Staff Report
To: Mounds View Planning Commission
From: James Ericson, Community Development Director
Item Title/Subject: Review Applications for the Vacant Planning
Commission Seat
Introduction:
The City Council adopted Ordinance 741 in 2004 which clarified the process by which
applications for boards and commissions are reviewed and appointed. The Council
recognized the value of having the specific board or commission review the applications and
forward its recommendation on to the Council for their action as a whole. In previous years,
the Mayor has made the appointments with the approval of the Council.
Discussion:
There has been a vacancy on the Planning Commission as a result of the resignation of
former Planning Commissioner Liz Song last year. Staff has announced the vacancy at
Planning Commission and City Council meetings, the announcement has been posted on
the City’s website and has been scrolled on Cable Channel 16. During the two elections, it
was pointed out on more than one occasion that unsuccessful candidates could apply for
vacant positions.
We have received two applications for the vacant seat from Michael Marrone and Al Hull. Mr.
Marrone ran for a Council seat during the general election. Mr. Hull ran for mayor during the
general election and as a councilmember during the special election. Both have indicated a
desire to serve on the Planning Commission. Their applications are attached for the
Commission’s review.
The Commission reviewed the applications submitted by both candidates at the February 16,
2005 Planning Commission meeting. It was determined that it would be advantageous to
meet and hear from the candidates before making a recommendation to the City Council.
Both Mr. Hull and Mr. Marrone have been informed of the Commission’s desire to meet them
and have been invited to attend the Planning Commission meeting. The candidates have
been told that they can make a statement as to the desire to serve on the Planning
Commission and that the Commission may respond with questions of their own.
Recommendation:
Review the applications and consider the candidates’ statements as to their desire to serve
on the Planning Commission. Questions may be directed to the candidates if additional
information is needed. The Commission may recommend one of the two candidates to the
City Council or it may recommend both candidates if it is determined that both would be good
candidates. No resolution is attached, a simple motion is all that would be needed.
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James Ericson
Community Development Director
PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
February 2, 2005
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m. February 2, 2005.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Miller, Zwirn, Meehlhause, and Stevenson
Members Absent: Hegland and Scotch
Also Present: Community Development Director Ericson and
Planning Associate Prososki
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Index to Minutes Page
Public Hearing and Consideration of Resolution 783-05, Recommending 2
Approval of a Comprehensive Plan Amendment Which Would Change
the Land Use Designation of the Bridges of Mounds View Golf Course
from Outdoor Sport Recreation and Passive Open Space to Office Park.
Consider Resolution 782-05, Recommending Acquisition of 2394 County 4
Road 10, Donut Connection
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3. Approve Minutes
None.
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4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
Marcy Winkler, 2372 Laport Drive, stated she was concerned about building another multiple
dwelling complex in the Laport Meadows neighborhood. She explained that there are already
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five trailer courts, many apartment buildings, and many townhouses in Mounds View. She
expressed her concern regarding her property value going down if another townhouse
development would be put in. She added that she has seen owner-occupied townhouses become
rentals later on in other areas.
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5. Public Hearing and Consideration of Resolution 783-05, Recommending Approval
of a Comprehensive Plan Amendment Which Would Change the Land Use
Designation of the Bridges of Mounds View Golf Course from Outdoor
Sport/Recreation and Passive Open Space to Office Park.
Community Development Director Ericson reminded the Commission that this issue was
discussed at the Planning Commission meeting on January 19th. He explained the Zoning Code
had been recently amended to designate this site as Industrial, consistent with the adjoining
properties in the surrounding area. He informed the Commission that Minnesota law requires
that the zoning be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan, so the next step is to amend the
Comprehensive Plan to be consistent with the designated zoning which was recently amended.
He further explained that at this point the land use has a split designation of OSP and SRO, and
the proposed amendment would reflect an OFC designation. He noted that other potential
designations had been discussed at the last meeting. Director Ericson informed the Commission
that the City Council directed staff to move forward with this amendment, and after the Planning
Commission reviews the matter; it will be forwarded onto the Metropolitan Council for their
consideration. Once the Metropolitan Council makes their determination, it would come back to
the City Council for final review and approval. He stated that the Planning Commission had
been provided with an updated Community Profile and Background, which is essentially the
application and package that goes to the Metropolitan Council. He noted that if something were
constructed at the site other than a golf course, some changes would need to be made to the
Comprehensive Plan.
Chair Stevenson mentioned that the reason this would not be designated Light Industrial is
because something in the line of a truck terminal could be a potential use, and that might send
the wrong message, which was discussed at the January 19th meeting.
John Dietrich from RLK explained that on Question No. 5, they had streamlined the list agencies
that would be reviewing the application. He continued by indicating those agencies would
include the City of Blaine, Ramsey County, Anoka County, Rice Creek Watershed, the FAA,
MnDOT, and the City of Shoreview. He indicated that they would be submitting this application
on February 3rd. He stated that the changes they had made to the Community Profile and
Background were in italics. He added that the Met Council has seen the AUAR, and they did
send a letter back to the City stating that the AUAR is complete. He also added that this review
would probably take the full 60-days. He passed out a tentative schedule of projected dates
regarding the Comprehensive Plan Amendment Process, with April 20, 2005 being the target
date for Comprehensive Plan Approval at the Met Council.
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Commissioner Miller noted that on page 1 at the very bottom it says, “parking ramps”. She
asked whether it should be “parking ramps” or “parking ramp”.
Mr. Dietrich agreed that it should be “parking ramp”, and that he would make that change.
Commissioner Miller also noted that the box for “not applicable” was not checked on page 2,
Item 6, and she inquired as to whether it should be.
Mr. Dietrich confirmed that the box should be checked.
Chair Stevenson asked when public input would be taken on this item.
Director Ericson replied that this evening’s meeting is a public hearing, and the public had been
invited. He noted that he did not receive any phone calls or letters. He informed the
Commission that he had a conversation with Sysco, and their only issue was that the
transportation system be adequate to handle additional traffic. Mr. Ericson pointed out that there
would be another City Council meeting following the Met Council’s approval where the public
would have an opportunity for input.
Mr. Dietrich mentioned that they anticipate that the Met Council will look at the transportation
issue, and that there has been a very thorough transportation study done. He added that other
issues of focus are storm water and storm water management. He stated that the Code is very
clear on what needs to be done. He added that there is a sanitary sewer interceptor that already
bisects a portion of the site, so they have looked at those capacities.
Commissioner Miller asked what “Hybrid I” meant on Table 3.
Mr. Dietrich explained that there is a plan in the works where Lake Drive, 35W,and County
Road J all come together, and that is one of the major elements of the study of the Stakeholders
meeting with MnDOT and the regional transportation engineers. He continued by saying that
Hybrid talks about possibly building a bridge so that Lake Drive could fly over 35W and then
come down for the southbound connection.
Director Ericson clarified that the “I” part of that is from I-35W.
Mr. Dietrich reassured the Commission that he would put that all on one line to eliminate the
confusion.
Director Ericson stated that Resolution 783-05 was before them if the Commission felt
comfortable with the amendment application.
Commissioner Zwirn asked for clarification regarding the definition of Institutional as it applies
to this parcel.
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Director Ericson explained that Institutional would be for a school or government type building
as opposed to something that would be privately held or an office campus setting.
MOTION/SECOND: Miller/Stevenson. To Approve Resolution 783-05, Resolution
Recommending Approval of a Comprehensive Plan Amendment From Outdoor Sport Recreation
(SRO) and Passive Open Space (OSP) to Office (OFC) for the Bridges Redevelopment Site;
Special Planning Case SP-134-05.
Ayes –4 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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6. Consider Resolution 782-05, Recommending Acquisition of 2394 County Road 10,
Donut Connection
Community Development Director Ericson stated that the City Council had asked the Planning
Commission to look at the option available to the City to acquire the Donut Connection, which is
located at the intersection of County Road H2 and County Road 10. He indicated that the Donut
Connection had originally approached the City in regards to selling the property because they
understood that the City had a possible desire to redevelop the intersection. He also mentioned
that that there are intersection realignment plans already on file from the 2002 Corridor
Improvement Plan prepared by URS. Director Ericson affirmed that the acquisition would be
consistent with the City’s desire to improve the function of the corridor and to also improve land
uses on the corridor. He mentioned that the City Council had discussed this possible acquisition
at their last work session and they believe this opportunity to have potential. He acknowledged
that there is a drawback in that the parcel is only 20,000 square feet and, as a stand-alone
building, probably does not allow for much redevelopment. He added, however, that the
adjacent gas station might be willing to sell and that the City could explore that possibility. He
stated that the asking price for the Donut Connection is less than the Ramsey County assessed
value so the City would be interested from a redevelopment standpoint. He added that the
dollars that would be used to purchase the site would be TIF dollars. He informed the Planning
Commission that his item would be at the City Council’s next work session and that the Council
would like the Planning Commission’s input.
Chair Stevenson pointed out that the future land use map shows the address as 2386 rather than
2394.
Director Ericson confirmed that it is 2394, and he would make that change.
Commissioner Miller expressed that there are some people who think the City should not be in
the business of buying property and asked where the money for this comes from.
Director Ericson responded that if it were not for governmental involvement, some projects
simply would not happen, and that sometimes you must utilize tax increment dollars to help the
process along. He added that this is the one redevelopment tool that the State provides to cities
to help with redeveloping properties. He explained there are three TIF Districts in the City, and
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that those will expire in 2012, 2013, and 2014, after which time all of those properties within the
TIF Districts will come back onto the property tax rolls, and hopefully at that time they would
have addressed all of the City’s priorities in terms of redevelopment. He explained that they
would rather be involved in this redevelopment instead of letting nature take its course because
sometimes you end up with uses you rather not have.
Chair Stevenson affirmed that this is exactly what TIF was set up to do.
Commissioner Miller added that she didn’t have any problem with it.
Chair Stevenson pointed out that this is right along the County Road 10 corridor, and right where
they want to develop, and he is very much for this.
Director Ericson reiterated that this is a situation where the property owners had approached the
City, and they had not been pursuing them.
Commissioner Meehlhause stated that he supported the City buying the property. He expressed
that his concern would be whether the present owners would not want to lease it back. He added
that he did not want to see an empty building standing there, and hopefully the City would decide
to take it down.
Director Ericson responded that the City does not want an empty building on the corridor either
and that removal of the building would be their recommendation. He added that if the present
owner does not wish to lease it back, they probably would not be interested in trying to lease it
out for another use. He added that it might be more conducive to level the site.
Commissioner Zwirn stated that he does not feel that the community should be involved in
purchasing real estate. He added however that this is a prime situation where the community
should be involved. He expressed that he does not support TIF, but he thought this may a good
use of the funds because the corridor needs to be redeveloped.
MOTION/SECOND: Meehlhause/Miller. To Approve Resolution 782-05, Resolution
Recommending Approval of the Acquisition of the Donut Connection Parcel Located at 2394
County Road 10.
Ayes –4 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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7. Next Planning Commission Meeting: February 16, 2005
Director Ericson mentioned that at the next Planning Commission meeting they would be
considering new applications for the Planning Commission vacancy and that they would need to
make a recommendation to the City Council. He added that the City Council would make the
appointment on February 28th. Director Ericson announced that the public is welcome to submit
an application for this vacancy.
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8. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 7:45 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Ericson
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
Sheree Theobald
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
February 16, 2005
Mounds View City H2ll
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
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1. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chair Stevenson at 7:00 p.m. February 16, 2005.
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2. Roll Call
Members Present: Commissioners Miller, Zwirn, Meehlhause, Hegland, Scotch, and
Stevenson
Also Present: Community Development Director Ericson
Planning Associate Prososki
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Index to Minutes Page
Consideration of a Variance for a Reduced Number of Required Covered
Parking Spaces at Greenfield Estates Located at 7635 Greenfield Avenue. 2
Consideration of a Lot Line Adjustment (Minor Subdivision) Request 5
between 3008 and 3016 County Road J.
Consideration of a Re-approval of a Minor Subdivision at 7630 Woodlawn 6
Avenue and 7618 Edgewood Drive.
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3. Approve Minutes
January 5, 2005 and January 19, 2005.
MOTION/SECOND. Zwirn/Miller. To approve the January 5 and January 19, 2005 Minutes as
presented.
Ayes-6 Nays-0 Motion carried.
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4. Citizens Requests and Comments on Items Not on the Agenda
None.
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5. Planning Case VR05-002. Consideration of a Variance for a Reduced Number of
Required Covered Parking Spaces at Greenfield Estates Located at 7635 Greenfield
Avenue.
Planning Associate Prososki stated that the applicant is proposing to demolish the existing
garages and construct 78 new garage stalls in a drive through style. The Zoning Code requires
one covered parking space per unit. Greenfield Estates has 125 units and would be required to
have 125 covered parking spaces, so the variance is requesting 47 less than the amount required.
There would be 247 uncovered parking stalls. She stated that the applicant, Mr. Menning
explained in a letter that there have been three fires in the past few years due to juveniles
breaking into the garages due to the fact that half the garages are not visible from the rest of the
property. She stated that the residents have to manually open and close their garage doors, and
the proposed garages would be fully enclosed with two vehicle access points, and there would be
an electronic garage door opener provided to residents renting a garage stall. She stated there is
currently a high vacancy rate for the garages, and over the last seven years only 58% of the
garages have been rented. She stated that no residents have called to object to this proposal. She
stated if the Planning Commission decides to deny this request, a new resolution could be
prepared for the next meeting.
Chair Stevenson suggested the possible reason that the garages have been underutilized is due to
the fact that it has been a burden to manually open and close the garage doors, the lack of
security, and the amount of damage. He remarked that perhaps with the new facility, more
residents would choose to have a garage.
Alan Menning from Greenfield Estates indicated that they have ten properties located in the
metropolitan area, and anytime their garage ratio to individual units exceeds 50 percent, they
always have vacancies. He explained the vacancy rate at the various apartment buildings. He
stated at some buildings sometimes they force people to rent a garage with their apartment. He
remarked that some tenants only want to rent garages for the winter months.
Commissioner Hegland asked what the problem was with renting the apartments to include the
garage.
Mr. Menning explained that they can’t because of the competition, and the other buildings in
Mounds View don’t do that.
Commissioner Hegland stated he felt most people would appreciate indoor parking.
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Mr. Menning stated that the extra $35 per month for a garage is a lot of money to many people,
and it could cause him to lose tenants to other complexes. He noted that there are presently a lot
of vacancies in the area.
Commissioner Scotch remarked that there have been more vacancies in the last two to three
years.
Commissioner Meehlhause asked if renting garages as part of the apartment was standard
procedure.
Mr. Menning stated that none of his competition does it. He stated that the $35 per month for a
garage requires another $100 of income per month to qualify for the apartment, and many people
are on the borderline already. He said it was standard procedure to ask them if they want a
garage, but it isn’t standard procedure to make them rent a garage.
Commissioner Meehlhause asked why they couldn’t provide the garage with the apartment
without charging extra for it.
Mr. Menning explained that they wouldn’t make any money that way, and he would rather rent
50 percent of the garages for $35 per month apiece.
Commissioner Scotch stated that she felt the problem they are having is that the variance request
is to large, and she asked whether the plans could be adjusted for more covered parking. She
stated that this would improve the property aesthetically.
Chair Stevenson said he felt the percentage of garages that would be rented would rise when the
new garages are built.
Mr. Menning reported he is only renting 44 percent right now, so they would be increasing it by
16 percent from what they are currently renting.
Commissioner Hegland stated that they are reducing the number of garage stalls that they will
have available.
Commissioner Zwirn noted that they are not here to discuss how Mr. Menning could better
manage his apartment buildings, and they have to look at the practicality of what he was asking
them to do. He stated that Greenfield could spend half of the money by revamping the old
garages and putting more lighting in. He felt more creativity could be used to rent the garages
for storage to people not living at the apartment complex.
Mr. Menning explained that the present garages aren’t large enough to store a boat in, and they
are not in the storage business.
Mr. Menning further stated that the problem is that it is difficult to control 125 individual garage
doors. He stated that some residents leave the garage doors open.
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Commissioner Zwirn noted that they might not leave them open if they had a garage door
opener.
Commissioner Hegland commented that he was failing to see a hardship.
Commissioner Zwirn agreed that there is none.
Commissioner Miller noted that in 2001 the rental rate was 70.8 percent, and in 2004 it was
44.79, and she asked why there was such a difference.
Mr. Menning remarked that back in 2001 the vacancy rate was less than 1 percent, and as such,
they could require that new residents also take a garage. He also stated that the owner of the
building wants to make these improvements to the property to make it more aesthetically
pleasing to potential renters.
Commissioner Scotch asked what the percentage of rented apartments was.
Mr. Menning reported it is at 94-96%.
Commissioner Scotch stated she felt they should have a few more garages than what they are
requesting.
Planning Associate Prososki suggested that the Planning Commission might want to consider
100 covered parking spaces, which would be 80 percent of what is required, rather than the
proposed 78 stalls.
Commissioner Scotch agreed that was a better idea.
Mr. Menning stated that they could add six stalls to each proposed garage building.
Commissioner Hegland stated that the hardship they are claiming is that they don’t think they
can rent all the garages, but it seemed to him that part of the rent is based on the condition of the
property, and they are improving the property and would have an advantage in that regard.
Mr. Menning explained that their competition is Woodlawn Estates, and they are renting an
apartment for $650 a month without a garage, so he also needs to rent his for $650 without a
garage because there is no difference in the apartments as they were both built by the same
builder.
Commissioner Hegland stated that that just means they would be renting to a different type of
person.
Mr. Menning remarked that there aren’t that many different kinds of people around.
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Commissioner Hegland said he was having a hard time finding a hardship.
Chair Stevenson stated that going from 100 percent to 62 percent of required garages is more
than they would be willing to allow, but 80 percent would make him more comfortable, along
with the fact that they would be improving the property.
Commissioner Zwirn asked how they were going to handle garages being rented for the storage
of property because the new garages would not be individual stalls.
Mr. Menning stated that garages rented for storing of property was not allowed.
Commissioner Scott indicated she would prefer to go with 80 percent.
Chair Stevenson indicated that the resolution could be amended to require 100 covered parking
stalls, and that the variance is for 25 stalls less than what would be required.
Planning Associate Prososki noted the resolution should also be changed to show the applicant as
being Greenfield Properties, Limited Partnership.
MOTION/SECOND: Scotch/Miller. To approve Resolution 784-05 as amended, approving the
request for a Variance for a Reduced Number of Required Covered Parking Spaces at Greenfield
Estates Located at 7635 Greenfield Avenue in Planning Case VR05-002.
Ayes –3 Nays – 3 Motion failed.
(Nay-Commissioners Hegland, Zwirn, and Meehlhause.)
Chair Stevenson asked whether anybody wished to comment on their vote.
Commissioner Zwirn stated that there hadn’t been a clear demonstration of hardship, and he felt
the proposal lacked creativity regarding a marketing plan.
Commissioner Hegland stated that the difference between the costs of what they are proposing to
build and what they are required to build is minimal, and the economic return on the investment
should be realized. He stated that the applicant was not showing a hardship.
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6. Planning Case M105-001. Consideration of a Lot Line Adjustment (Minor
Subdivision) Request between 3008 and 3016 County Road J.
Planning Associate Prososki stated that the applicant, Joseph Holmberg, is requesting a lot line
adjustment be3cause the driveway to his property of 3008 Co. Rd J is actually located on the
adjacent property at 3016 Co. Rd. J the previous owners had an understanding about the
driveway situation. Joseph Holmberg now wishes to sell and needs to bring the property into
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compliance, by moving the property line 15’ to the west. Planning Associate Prososki explained
that even with the additional lot area, the driveway does not meet the 5’ setback. She stated that
Staff is recommending that the City require the driveway meet the 5’ setback requirement by
May 1 of 2005 and that money be held in escrow in case the new owner of 3008 County Road J
doesn’t follow through. She stated that bringing it into conformance would mean placing grass
or sod in the setback area.
Chair Stevenson voiced a concern over the date of May 1, 2005.
Planning Associate Prososki stated that she could extend it to June 1, 2005.
Chair Stevenson indicated he would be more comfortable with May 15th.
Commissioner Hegland asked if the property has been sold.
Planning Associate Prososki answered that there is a closing contingent upon the minor
subdivision.
Commissioner Miller asked whether a hard surface driveway was required.
Planning Associate Prososki answered that the Resolution does not require a permanent
driveway, but the Planning Commissioner could make that request. She explained that the
Resolution only approves the minor subdivision and requires that they make the driveway meet
the setback.
Community Development Director Ericson explained that Ordinance 752 that had recently been
adopted would not require a hard surface driveway.
Commissioner Meehlhause asked if the curb cut needed to be adjusted.
Planning Associate Prososki said the width of the curb cub was satisfactory.
Commissioner Miller reiterated it would be nice if the driveway were of a hard surface.
Commissioner Hegland stated he didn’t think they should require it.
Chair Stevenson stated that they wouldn’t require it, but it’s the Commission’s preference that
the driveway be made permanent.
MOTION/SECOND: Meehlhause/Scotch. To Approve Resolution 785-05, the Lot Line
Adjustment (Minor Subdivision) Request between 3008 and 3016 County Road J, but to change
the date to be May 15th.
Ayes –6 Nays – 0 Motion carried.
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7. Planning Case M105-002. Consideration of a Re-approval of a Minor Subdivision
at 7630 Woodlawn Avenue and 7618 Edgewood Drive.
Community Development Director Ericson stated the Planning Commission had already
approved this application in 2001, but there were some issues with the easement documents and
the mortgage company, so the deeds had never been record with Ramsey County. He stated that
the purpose of the land transfer is to create more space on the Edgewood Drive lot, improved
with a four-plex, upon which to build garages and supplemental parking space. He stated the
four-plex currently does not provide any garage space, which is required under the Zoning Code.
He stated both lots would comply with the area and setback requirements of the Zoning Code
after the subdivision.
Commissioner Miller asked if where they were putting the lot line would allow enough space for
proper garages on both lots.
Community Development Director Ericson answered that it would.
Chair Stevenson remarked that he remembered this case well, and he didn’t see any changes. He
said there had been a lot of discussion regarding this item previously, and he didn’t see any
problem with approving it again.
MOTION/SECOND. Stevenson/Miller. To approve Resolution 786-05, the Re-approval of a
Minor Subdivision at 7630 Woodlawn Avenue and 7618 Edgewood Drive.
Ayes-6 Nays-0 Motion carried.
Community Development Director noted that this item would be on the City Council agenda on
February 28th.
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8. Review of Planning Commission Applications.
Community Development Director Ericson explained that the two applicants, Michael Marrone
and Al Hull, were unable to attend the meeting this evening. He stated that Mr. Marrone had run
for a City Council seat during the general election, and Mr. Hull had run for mayor during the
general election and the council seat during the special election.
Chair Stevenson suggested recommending both candidates, indicating either would be good
commissioners.
Commissioner Miller said Mr. Hull had given a better description of why he wanted to serve on
the Commission.
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Commissioner Zwirn voiced a preference for seeing the candidates in person rather than simply
making a recommendation.
Chair Stevenson announced they would hold off on the decision until the March 2nd meeting so
that the candidates could attend.
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9. Next Planning Commission Meeting: March 2, 2005.
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10. Adjournment to Agenda Session
There being no further business before the Planning Commission, Chair Stevenson adjourned the
meeting at 8:05 p.m.
(The meeting immediately adjourned to the Agenda Session)
Respectfully submitted,
Jim Ericson
Community Development Director
Transcribed by:
Sheree Theobald
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.