HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-23-1992 Mounds View Charter Commission Minutes
September 23 , 1992
I. The meeting was called to order at 7: 36 p.m. by
Chairperson Len Burgers at the Mounds View City
Hall Council Chambers.
II. Roll Call - Members
Present Absent
Virgil Beyer Lloyd Bardwell
Len Burgers Sue Hankner
Stan Haugen Bob Toborg
Jim Kavanaugh
Jerry Linke
Dave Long
Ed Trettel
July Trude
Daryl Turner
Ray Vanderveer
Arlene Werdien
Joe Witzman
Others Present
Dave Kennedy
Duane McCarty
Samantha Orduno
III. Approval of Minutes
The minutes from the October 10, 1991 meeting were
reviewed. No discrepancies were noted.
Motion by E. Trettel, seconded by J. Linke to accept
the minutes as written. Passed_unanimously.
IV. Secretary J. Kavanaugh reminded Chairperson L. Burgers
that as the Commission had not previously met during
1992 , there were three items of business which needed
to be considered before the end of the year. He
suggested that these items be identified before a
discussion of the new agenda items, in the event this
was the only meeting of the year. These items were:
Expiration of Commission Member Terms
1992 Annual Report to the District Court
1993 Meeting Schedule
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Samantha Orduno passed around copies of a letter dated
September 21, 1992 from J. E. Gockowski - Court
Administrator, indicating that the terms of seven
Charter Commission Members will expire October 31,
1992 . These members are all eligible to serve a second
term. These members are:
Virgil Beyer
Leonard Burgers
Stanley Haugan
James Kavanaugh
Jerome Linke
Edward Trettel
Daryl Turner
Note: Secretary J. Kavanaugh's records indicate that
there are eight members whose terms will expire. It
appears that Joseph Witzman should have been named on
this list.
S. Orduno indicated that each member whose term will
expire must submit a letter to the District Court if
he/she wishes to be reappointed.
J. Kavanaugh requested that the City send a letter to
each member whose term will expire notifying them of
the proper procedure for reappointment or resignation.
V. Chairperson Burgers related that the reason he called
this meeting (this is an extraordinary meeting called
in addition to the regularly scheduled meetings) was to
consider recommendations from the City Council to
change the City Charter. He referred to the
"Recommended Charter Change" which had been mailed to
each commission member. He then passed an agenda which
he had constructed in an effort to consider the
recommendations in groups of similar issues.
At the request of the Chair, S. Or-dung--gave--a rationale-- --- ----
for the recommended changes. She related that these
recommendations came from the Council and are an
attempt to facilitate Charter language modification
which would allow the Council to address three issues:
1. In view of the significant revenue shortage faced
by the City, the Council is attempting to reduce
costs without cutting critical services. By
reducing the numbers of newsletters, the City can
save $3 , 500 to $4, 000 for each newsletter not
published. In the recent citizen survey, 92%
favored this reduction to save money.
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2. The Initiative and Referendum section of the
Charter needs to be reviewed. A citizen's group
recently petitioned to have an issue placed on the
ballot for election, only to find it was not legal
under the Charter.
3. Housekeeping Items - the Council has requested
that the Commission revise language in several
sections. They believe these revisions will
improve the Charter and better serve the
citizens/City.
At this time during the meeting, commission members
made comments and asked questions concerning the
proposed reductions in the number of newsletters:
E. Trettel believes that four per year may be
significant but would want to review all options before
a decision is made. He asked if a simplified version
would be possible?
Response: S. Orduno - certainly can consider options.
August newsletter was a simplified version. Nothing
prohibits that. To a certain extent, the newsletter
has become, primarily, a Parks and Recreation bulletin.
S. Haugen - How often is it necessary to publish Parks
and Recreation information.
Response: J. Linke - four times per year.
J. Trude expressed concern about the proposed
reduction. Believes it is very important that
information be disseminated so that citizens can have
input and not be left out.
S. Haugen asked if $3 ,500 was the cost per issue?
Response:-- S. Orduno -yes-.
He said he agrees with J. Trude - suggested we keep six
but use a simplified version.
R. Vanderveer - asked if it would be feasible to sell
advertising?
Response: J. Linke and S. Orduno - Difficult to
quality and appropriateness of ads.
E. Trettel - Is it possible to reduce cost by having
citizens pick up the bulletins rather than mail? Can
they be published by other means such as Cable TV?
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Response: J. Linke and S. Orduno - Information would
not be disseminated if citizens had to pick them up.
Cable TV is very expensive.
J. Trude - I strongly object to reduction of
information available to residents.
E. Trettel - offered that it may be possible to reduce
the number of newsletters to four if the Commission
specified items for which a newsletter is necessary.
L. Burgers - If we reduce the number of newsletters to
four, timing may be a problem. If there is information
which must be disseminated and does not coincide with
newsletter publication schedules. Would there be money
for an additional publication.
Response: J. Linke, yes.
R. Vanderveer - Try four for two years. If that isn't
sufficient, we can come back.
E. Trettel - I would be comfortable with four if there
was conspicuous notice in the newsletter to look for
additional information in the newspaper and a
disclaimer that there may be additional information in
the newspaper.
At this time (8: 04 p.m. ) Chairperson Burgers suggested that we
discontinue the discussion and ask Mr. Kennedy to address the
Commission.
David Kennedy related that he had been asked to attend this
meeting by S. Orduno to discuss Charter issues. He informed the
Commission that he is an attorney with the law firm of Holmes
and Graven. This is the same firm from which our City Attorney
is hired. He indicated that local government is his specialty
and that he has extensive experience working on City Charters and
City finance.
Mr. Kennedy suggested that there are several principles he
believes are helpful in considering a Charter:
1. Keep it as simple as possible - the U. S. Constitution is
1/10 as big as our Charter. Draw the power simply. Leave
the implementation to legislation.
2 . Drop the things you can't do such as the issuance of
Emerging Debt Certificates.
3 . Drop things covered by State Law such as special
assessments. State law is specific and has been tested in
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the Courts. The procedures are well defined.
4. Omit things that can be handled administratively by
ordinance.
5. Keep the language simple and plain. Use declarative
sentences so that people can read it. Keep the "language"
gender neutral.
6. Apply the "what if test" . What if this happens - will the
Charter cover it?
7. Don't dwell on the past. Look to the future.
In reviewing this Charter, Mr. Kennedy found that there are some
problems in Chapter 5 - Initiative, Referendum and Recall.
Recall as specified in 5. 08 doesn't work. The Supreme Court has
ruled that an elected official can only be removed for
malfeasance.
Initiative and Referendum - (5. 05 and 5. 07) indicates that any
measure is subject to this process. The Supreme Court has said
no. This would be chaotic and could bring government to a halt.
The only things subject to Initiative and Referendum are
"legislative acts" - things that must be done by ordinance.
Policies and resolutions are not subject to this process.
Mr. Kennedy noted what he perceived to be problems in the other
sections as well.
Section 4 . 04 - Special and Advisory Elections except for Elected
Office. He believes this is the only Charter in the state that
has this provision.
Section 4 . 05 - Vacancy of Municipal Elected Office. He finds
this section very hard to follow.
If her were to offer a suggestion to clarify the newsletter
issue, he would keep itsimple. He -would-recommendtheCharter
be amended to require that: "The City Council must publish
newsletters to inform the public" and leave the implementation to
the Council.
Mr. Kennedy indicated that there are three ways to amend the
Charter:
1. Initiative of the Charter Commission
2 . Initiative of the City Council
3 . Initiative of the Voters
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He recommends that the Charter Commission make recommendations to
the Council. If the Council agrees by unanimous vote, there is a
90 day waiting period. If there is a petition, an election would
have to be held.
At this time a discussion was held to determine what the
Commission should do at this time.
D. McCarty - offered that things do change but suggested that we
consider trying to locate the original commission members and
hold a concurrent session to learn the rationale for constructing
the Charter the way it was done.
J. Trude and E. Trettel - commented that it was a shocking
revelation that the Referendum provision could not be used as
evidenced by the Greenfield Wetlands Group attempts.
J. Kavanaugh - recommended that the Commission not do anything at
this time, but draft proposed changes and seek public reaction A.
Werdien - feels strongly that the Charter is satisfactory the way
it is and should not be revised.
S. Haugen - suggested we ask Mr. Kennedy to prepare a draft and
bring it back to the Commission.
J. Linke - agreed with Stan.
R. Vanderveer - recommended that we have Mr. Kennedy review the
Charter to see where it is in conflict with State Law.
It is the consensus of the Commission that they are not prepared
to make recommendations for revision at this time.
Motion by J. Linke, seconded by S. Haugen to have Mr. Kennedy
review the Charter to look for provisions which are in conflict
with State Law and report back tot he Commission. Passed
unanimously.
- Next meeting: -Ttu-r-sday,- November- 12,-1992, -7: 00---p.m. ,_-_Council_
Chambers.
Motion by V. Beyer, second by J. Linke to adjourn. Passed
unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10: 08 p.m.
J. L. Kavanaugh, Secretary
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