HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 1998/08/24Regular Meeting
August 24,1998
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
1. CALL MEETING TO ORDER
The Mounds View City Council was called to order by Mayor McCarty at 7:00 p.m., on August
24, 1998.
2. ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor McCarty, Council Members Gunn, Quick, Koopmeiners, and
Stigney.
ALSO PRESENT: Mike Ulrich, Acting Clerk Administrator; Kevin Carroll, Economic
• Development Coordinator; Rick Jopke, Community Development Director, Jim Ericson,
Planning Associate; Bob Long, City Attorney; and Dave Hix, Recording Secretary.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. August 10, 1998 City Council Meeting
Mayor McCarty asked for corrections and/or additions to the August 10, 1998 City Council
Minutes.
Stigney offered the following corrections: On Page 3, Item 3, the title "Bureau of Utility Clerk"
should read "Billing and Utility Clerk." On Page 3, Paragraph 5, fifth line; the title "Human
Resource Technician" should read "Human Resource Duties of the Assistant Administrator." On
Page 3, at the last MOTION/SECOND, delete the reference to Stanton Survey and delete the
word "and" following Stanton Survey. On page 4, the first sentence reads "Motion failed due to
a lack of second." It should read "Motion failed because it was not recognized by the Chair."
McCarty read into the record the Robert's Rules of Order that governed the circumstance in
question:
RULES OF ORDER 517
"... the minority and individual members if it is for any other purpose than the first sentence of
this the one stated in section. In ordinary assemblies, the motion to Lay on the Table is out of
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order ifthe evident intent is to kill or avoid dealing with a measure. If a time for resuming
consideration is specified in making the motion. it can be admitted only as a motion to Postpone
(14~ in which case it is debatable (see also pp. 213-215:
Standard Descriptive Characteristics
The subsidiary motion to Lay on the Table:
1. Takes precedence over all subsidiary motions, and over any incidental motions that are
pending when it is made. It yields to all privileged motions, and to motions that are
incidental to itself.
2. Can be applied to main motions, with any other subsidiary motions that may be pending;
can be thus applied to orders of the day (14, 40) or questions ofprivilege (19) while they
are actually pending as main motions, and such an application is independent of, and does
not carry to the table, any other matter that they may have Interrupted; can be separately
applied to debatable appeals that do not adhere (p. 115) to the main question (or to
nonadhering points of order referred by the chair to the judgement of the assembly which
are debatable when so referred), and this application has no effect on the status of any
other questions that may be pending; can be applied to adhering appeals-Whether
debatable or undebatable-only by laying the main question on the table, in which case the
appeal and all other adhering motions to the table also; can be applied to an immediately
pending motion to Reconsider (36), whenever Lay on the table would be applicable if the
motion to be reconsidered were ..."
McCarty stated: "The motion to table cannot be used or wielded as a club to close off a debate
on the rest of the members." "That's why the motion died, it never had a second, I never called
for a second."
Stigney stated: "The motion was made to table in conjunction with the Hay Study, so a definite
time period was stated."
McCarty stated: "It should have been a motion to postpone." The Mayor suggested that Mr.
Stigney educate himself on Robert's Rules of order.
Stigney stated he was fully aware of the meaning of the words "postpone" and "table." "In the
past when I made a postponement motion, it has always been change to table."
The Mayor stated he disagreed and requested that Mr. Stigney move on with his corrections to
the minutes.
Stigney restated his correction to the minutes as follows: "I made a motion and it was not
recognized by the Chair."
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Mayor McCarty reiterated the motion was called out of order and referred Mr. Stigney to
Robert's Rules of Order 517, which had just been read into the record. He said, "Your remedy to
that would be to appeal from the decision of the Chair, but you never made that."
Stigney told the Council: "The City Attorney had reviewed the Council Meeting tape and stated
that, in fact, the Mayor was incorrect in his decision."
Mayor McCarty asked Mr. Stigney to proceed with his corrections to the minutes.
Stigney stated his corrections as: "The motion did not fail due to lack of a second. It failed
because the motion was not recognized by the Chair."
Mayor McCarty offered the following correction to the minutes: On Page 4, Line 1 should read,
"Motion failed because it was ruled out of order."
Stigney offered the following correction to the minutes: All statements as shown in the record
in regards to the failed motion in question are out of sequence with what is shown on the meeting
tapes.
MOTION/SECOND: Koopmeiners/Stigney to approve the August 10, 1998 Council Meeting
Minutes as corrected.
VOTE: Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried
4. SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS
No Special Order of Business was considered.
5. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Approve Just and Correct Claims
B. Request Approval to purchase Parks Truck
C. Request to Transfer License for Oasis Market
Items D, E, and F were pulled for further consideration.
D. Adopt Resolution 5261, Ordering the Preparation of Proposed Assessment and Setting
and Assessment Hearing for Old Highway 8 Improvements. The Public Hearing is to be
September 28, 1998 at 7:05 p.m., in the Mounds View City Hall Council Chambers.
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E. Set a Public Hearing for 7:05 p.m., September 14, 1998, to Consider Resolution No.
5263, a Resolution Considering a Conditional Use Permit for an oversized garage at 2185
Pinewood Drive as requested by Tammy Bellamy.
F. Set a Public Hearing for 7:10 p.m., September 14, 1998, to Consider Resolution No.
5264, a Resolution Approving a Conditional Use Permit for an oversized garage at 2442
Hillview Road as requested by David Kramer.
MOTION/SECOND: Koopmeiner/Gunn to approve the Consent Agenda as published.
VOTE: Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried
Mayor McCarty told the Council and the attending audience that due to a last minute illness of
the Video transmitting crew, the evenings meeting would not be televised on the cable access
channel.
• 6. RESIDENTS' REQUESTS AND COMMENTS FROM THE FLOOR
William Frits, 8072 Long Lake Road, asked for updates on the following items:
Traffic controls at Xzylite Street and County Road J
Ulrich stated the controlled intersection has been approved by Anoka County. Mounds View,
SYSCO FOODS, the City of Blaine, Anoka County and Ramsey County will be sharing the cost
of the intersection improvements.
2. Airport Road
McCarty told Mr. Frits that there had been a Resolution adopted between the City of Blaine and
the City of Mounds View, allowing Mounds View to have that section of the road removed, if
there were traffic problems, and Blaine would not fight the action. The resolution is defective
because it did not include the other parties that have an interest in the intersection; Anoka
County, Ramsey County, and the State of Minnesota. Roads that are installed with MSA funds
are difficult to remove, McCarty added. The Mayor told Frits that he would follow up on the
requested information and personally call him with the results of this inquiry.
It was noted for the record that Mr. Frits was opposed to signalization of the intersection in
question.
3. Term Limits for City held offices
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McCarty stated the Minnesota State Supreme Court has ruled that Term Limits are
unconstitutional.
4. The Mounds View Community Center
Mr. Frits complained about the Community Center saying it was a "white elephant" that is
draining the City's taxes. He asked when the facility would be open and useful for the City.
McCarty stated it was planned for the Community Center to be open for use by November of this
year.
To help defray the costs of operating the facility the Community Center has leased space to The
Children's Home Society and the School District.
5. Tax Increment Financing
• McCarty stated, "TIF is a tool that the State Legislature put in place years ago to try and enhance
and encourage our (The State's) economic base, and in particular our commercial and industrial
base." The money cannot be used for general administrative functions of the city.
Mr. Frits stated he was opposed to TIF because it did not do the City any obvious good.
7. COUNCIL BUSINESS
A. Consideration of Resolution No. 5262, a Resolution Approving a Development Review
Requested by SYSCO Foods to expand their Food Distribution and Warehouse Facility
Located at 2400 County Road J.
Ericson gave his report as follows:
SYSCO Foods had requested a development review for a proposed 106, 000 square foot
expansion that includes more employee parking, more truck parking, more freezer space, more
dry goods space, and more administrative office space. Staff s main concern is the zero set back
that has been requested for the driveway on the east side of the facility which boards wetland
area currently owned by the City of Mounds View. SYSCO Foods has indicated that widening
the current driveway from its current condition to the maximum allowable, under the PUD that
was approved when the SYSCO facility was first approved, was needed to maintain an orderly
and safe traffic flow scenario for current and future needs.
The Planning Commission has reviewed and gave the City Council its recommendation for
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approval of the Development Review.
No letters of opposition to the project had been received by the City.
McCarty asked Ericson to tell the Council specifically what they would be approving or
disapproving under this Development Review.
Ericson told the Council they would be approving setbacks, the building itself, landscape and
architectural criteria. No action would be taken on the use itself. But, rather, the site plan is
being considered as to whether it meets the zoning criteria.
MOTIONISECOND: Quick/Koopmeiners to approve Resolution No. 5262, a Resolution
Approving a Development Review Requested by SYSCO Foods to expand their Food
Distribution and Warehouse Facility Located at 2400 County Road J.
VOTE: Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried
. B. Consider Resolution No. 5259, Retaining Financial Management, Inc., as the City's
Financial Advisory Consultant.
MOTION/SECOND: Quick/Koopmeiners to approve Resolution No. 5259 Retaining Public
Financial Management, Inc., as the City's Financial Advisory Consultant.
Stigney stated by approving the use of Financial Management Inc., as the City's financial
advisory consultant it appeared as if the Mermaid Project was going ahead "full tilt", going out
for bonding of $1.7 million. If this occurred it also would mean that the City would incur the
$550,000 cost in relocating the Rent All business located on the corner of County Road H and
Highway 10. He stated the citizens of Mounds View are not aware of these developments.
Because of this fact, Stigney suggested holding off on approving Resolution No. 5259.
McCarty stated the Resolution recognized assignment of a financial management firm for the
City. There was no reference to the Mermaid or any other project. The Resolution sets forth fee
schedules to be applied to the retaining of the financial management firm.
Stigney stated there is no need to go out and ask an outside consultant to come in and look at,
and start paying him to do this issue, if they City is only considering the bonding issue.
McCarty reiterated the fact that the City is not authorizing the financial manager to do any
project. It assigns, it authorizes staff to deal with a specific firm as the City's financial advisor, it
does nothing more. The Mayor asked Stigney to stop pandering to the unfounded fears of the
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public who don't have the information before them as the Council does. "There is nothing in the
Resolution that binds the City to any project," he added.
Stigney stated that by approving the Resolution, the City would be presupposing that the
Mermaid Project was going to happen, and it is asking that the City pay $4,500 to have the
financial consultant review this process. Stigney added, if the consultant can get the City better
bonding rates, he would be all for it. But if the Resolution is tied into the Mermaid Project, the
residents should be given the chance to voice their opinions on the issue.
McCarty read Resolution No. 5259 into the record.
VOTE: Ayes - 4 Nays - 1(Stigney) Motion carried
C. Consideration of City Hall Renovation Bids
Michael Cox, Wold Architects, gave his report as follows:
• Bids for the Construction and Renovation of the City Hall were received and opened August 20,
1998. The renovation work will include:
1. Replacement of the roof-mounted ventilation and air conditioning units
2. Reroofing
3. Water proofing the lower level
4. Tuck-pointing and other miscellaneous repairs
Eleven bids were received. The low bid; which came in lower than the budget, was from Ebert
Construction of Corcoran Minnesota. Their bid amount was $204,600. The contractor has
submitted letters of reference and Wold was recommending that the City enter into a contract
with the low bidder.
Stigney asked for clarification in fire protection figures as stated in the bid.
Cox stated one option had more fire protection than in the other. He added that the overall
project cost of $315,000 included contingencies for unknowns, payments for fees, and testing.
Ebert's low bid would lower this amount because their bid was low than the budgeted amount.
Stigney stated concerns about approving $30,000 to do water proofing in the basement.
McCarty stated that all of the items listed in the schedule for correction are items that the full
Council approved after a very lengthy process of finding out exactly what work had to be done
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on the City Hall facility. All the projects were preapproved and the vote on the issue would
approve the dollar amount.
Stigney asked what funding mechanism would be use on the project.
McCarty stated staff has recommended that the funds come from the City's reserve account.
Attorney Long recommended that the motion be conditioned upon review by the City Attorney
for essentially four things:
1. Proper Insurance
2. Bonding
3. Outstanding legal claims or liabilities
4. Prevailing wage issue
MOTION/SECOND: Quick/Koopmeiners to approve awarding of the City Hall Renovation Bid
• to Ebert Construction with the stipulations as stated.
VOTE: Ayes - 4 Nays - 1(Stigney) Motion carried
D. Status Report and Approval of Resolution No. 5260, Authorizing City Staff and
Consultants to Proceed with Development Agreement and Other Actions Concerning the
Mermaid Hotel and Banquet Center.
Jopke gave his report as follows:
Staff has developed a draft development agreement that has been put together by Briggs and
Morgan. This basic "boiler plate agreement" is a list of items that should be included in the
development agreement for the project. A preliminary work schedule of things that would need
to be accomplished in order to keep the project on schedule was included for the Council's
consideration. Land appraisals have been made and a projected relocation budget has been
established for the moving of the Rent All business that is located on the corner of County Road
H and Highway 10. Permission is being sought from the Council for staff to proceed with the
negotiations to purchase the rental facility property.
The Resolution was summarized as follows:
1. Get permission to negotiate a final development agreement with the developer
2. Get permission to negotiate an option and purchase agreement for the rental
facility property
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3. Get permission to put together an application with the Department of Trade and
Economic Development for grant funds
4. Get permission to continue discussion with Metropolitan Transit for a transit
hub/park n' ride facility
John Siepert, speaking on behalf of the developer, reviewed for the Council the ownership
structure that would be put into place for the proposed Mermaid Project. It was stated there
would be two different owners involved in the project. One would be the owner of the hotel
complex, Mr. Hall (80 percent) and JCS Development (20 percent). The other would be the
owner of the banquet facility, Mr. Hall exclusively. JCS Development will be the developer of
the hotel portion of the project. The financial lenders have showed great interest in the project
but no firm financial package had been put together at the time of this meeting.
Carroll gave his report as follows:
A discussion has been initiated with Metro Transit in regards to the possible development of a
Park & Ride facility to be located on the expanded Mermaid site, most likely at the corner of
• County Road H and Highway 10. The current Park & Ride facility located on the east side of
County road H is at or near capacity. As a result, Metro Transit has targeted the Mounds View
area for a new Park & Ride location, and plans have been underway to improve and begin using a
parking lot on the arsenal property in Arden Hills. The deciding factor as to which site will
ultimately be used is where Metro Transit can get the most parking spaces the most quickly at the
lowest cost for the longest guaranteed period of time.
Jopke told the Council that the Planning Commission actions regarding the Mermaid project
could be during the month of October and November.
McCarty stated he would feel more comfortable with the schedule if the planning Commission
was include prior to the September 28 date, which financially speaking, is the date the City
Council is being asked to commit the City to the project.
Mr. Siepert, stated he did not for see any problems from the Planning Commission because the
property is already properly zoned. The Rice Creek Watershed District has to give its approval
for the project and this is scheduled for preliminary approval on September 25.
MOTION/SECOND: Koopmeiners/Gunn to approve Resolution No. 5260, a Resolution
Authorizing City Staff and consultants to Proceed with a Development Agreement and Other
Actions Concerning the Mermaid Hotel and Banquet Facility.
• Stigney stated opposition to the Resolution without first getting reaction from the City's
residents. He also stated his objection to making a Park & Ride as the gateway to the City of
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Mounds View. The project would also take TIF funds away from the Highway 10 Corridor
Development.
McCarty stated the EDC, which Stigney is a member, had recommended the project, in concept,
on a unanimous vote. No commitments are being made tonight. The City Council is authorizing
the City staff to continue to work with the developer in searching out answers to questions that
are before the Council and the developer, he added. McCarty stated the developer pays for staff
time through the application fees.
Stigney stated, "The cooperative effort that is being proposed is for the City to solely purchase
and be responsible for the Rent All property, and this is being asked without any input from the
City's citizens as to whether they wish to do that or not."
McCarty stated there is not "gift" from the City in regards to purchasing any properties that
would be involved in this project. Financing for the project would come from three components:
1. Private development funds
2. Bonding, to be paid back with future revenues from the project
3. TIF (Rent All property)
No dollars will come from the advalorum tax levy. The entire project would be paid for with tax
increments.
Stigney reiterated the funds would be coming from the TIF pool that could be used for the
Highway 10 Corridor Development. "The City residents should be clued in as to what this
project is," he restated.
VOTE: Ayes - 4 Nays - 1(Stigney)
8. REPORTS
Quick No Report
Koopmeiners No Report
Gunn No Report
Stigney No Report
Ulrich No Report
Mayor McCarty No Report
Attorney Long gave the following report:
Motion carried
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The Action in process against the Metropolitan Airports Commission (MAC) has been filed and
is scheduled for a hearing on September 23, 1998. Met Council has agreed to the City's request
to lay over consideration of the plan until October 8, 1998. The decision from MAC will be
made prior to this October 8, 1998 date.
9. Next Council Work Session: Tuesday, September 8 - 6:00 p.m.
Next Council Meeting: September 14,1998 - 7:00 p.m.
Special Work Session: August 31,1999 - 6:00 p.m.
10. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION/SECOND: KoopmeinerslStigney to adjourn the meeting.
VOTE: Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried
The meeting was adjourned at 8:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Dave Hix
Recorder
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