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PARKS AND RECREATION AND FORESTRY COMMISSION
6:30 P.M. | OCTOBER 27, 2011 | MOUNDS VIEW CITY HALL
MEETING AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Kunz, Palm, Kroeger, Arel, Long, Aukee, Peterson
Staff: Dazenski, DeBar | YMCA: _______________
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. June 23, 2011 Meeting Minutes
B. September 22, 2011 Meeting Minutes
5. PUBLIC INPUT
Citizens may speak to issues not on tonight’s agenda. Before speaking, please give your full
name and address. Please limit your comments to three minutes.
6. YMCA REPORT
7. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. Discuss Fee Schedule Rates for Athletic Field Rentals
B. Discuss Trailway and Sidewalk System
8. NEW BUSINESS
A. Recommend Ice Skating Rink Locations and Hours for 2011-2012
9. REPORTS
A. Reports of Commission Members
B. Reports of City Staff
10. REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS / OTHER BUSINESS
A. Next Regular Commission Meeting: November 17, 2011 (*one week early)
1. Recommend Applicants for PRF Commission Appointments (Jan. 2012-Dec. 2014)
2. Review Emerald Ash Borer Management Plan
3. Discuss Long-Term City Forestry Options
4. Discuss Ice Hockey and Skating Rink Improvements at Hillview Park
5. Park Focus - _____________________
6.
7.
11. ADJOURNMENT
PARKS AND RECREATION AND FORESTRY COMMISSION
6:30 P.M. | JUNE 23, 2011 | MOUNDS VIEW CITY HALL
MEETING MINUTES
1. CALL TO ORDER: 6:34
2. ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Kunz, Palm(late), Kroeger, Arel, Aukee
Staff: Dazenski, DeBar | YMCA: Spiczka
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA approved unanimously
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. May 26, 2011 Meeting Minutes motion to approve – Aukee, second – Kroeger, approved
unanimously
5. PUBLIC INPUT
Citizens may speak to issues not on tonight’s agenda. Before speaking, please give your full name and
address. Please limit your comments to three minutes. - None
6. YMCA REPORT – in packet
7. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. Review Final Plans for New Lambert Park Building
1. Discussed cost estimate, noted electrical cost, XCEL cost, street and hockey rink lighting.
2. Kroeger motion to move forward with printed proposal for bids, to include a penalty for not
following schedule, go out for bids. – Second Aukee, approved unanimously.
8. NEW BUSINESS
A. Discuss Draft 2012 Budget for Parks, Recreation, & Forestry – Move to July meeting
Some discussion on Hillview Hockey Rink
Some discussion on Forestry website
9. REPORTS
A. Reports of Commission Members – Monday take proposal for bids to City Council
B. Reports of City Staff – questions on scoreboard
10. REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS / OTHER BUSINESS
A. Next Regular Commission Meeting: July 28, 2011
1. Recommend Ball Field Improvements at Lambert Park
2. Review Trailway System Map
3. Park Focus - _____________________
4. Hillview full size hockey rink
5. Forestry Management
6. Lambert Improvements
7. Trailway system map
8. BBC contribution thoughts
11. ADJOURNMENT – Motion Palm, second Kunz, unanimous.
PARKS AND RECREATION AND FORESTRY COMMISSION
6:30 P.M. | SEPTEMBER 22, 2011 | MOUNDS VIEW CITY HALL
MEETING MEETING
1. CALL TO ORDER AT 6:36PM
2. ROLL CALL: Commissioners: Kunz, Palm, Kroeger, Arel, Aukee, Peterson
Staff: Dazenski, DeBar | YMCA: Burke
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Motion by Palm to approve, 2nd by Aukee. Motion passed 6-0.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. June 23, 2011 Meeting Minutes: no minutes present. Commissioners who were present
will check notes to see who took June minutes for approval in October.
B. July 28, 2011 Meeting Minutes. Motion by Peterson 2nd by Kunz to approve minutes.
Motion passed 6-0.
5. PUBLIC INPUT
Citizens may speak to issues not on tonight’s agenda. Before speaking, please give your full
name and address. Please limit your comments to three minutes. No residents present.
6. YMCA REPORT: Operating without a Program Director. Interview next week, hope to have a
director by end of October. Fall programs are underway. Large turn out for flag football. Club
Mid has 25-30 youth every day after school. Teen Center is open after Club Mid hours. Not too
many kids coming for that. Yoga starts this evening. Senior exercise program, card club, and
bingo beginning. Senior movie of the month starting as well. October 17th is the next movie of
the month at 1:00 for seniors. Fall Family Fun Day Saturday Oct. 15 from 11:00-1:00. $5 per
family. Friday, Oct. 28th 6:30-9:30 Halloween Teen Night. The Commission thanks MVCC for
assistance with Music-in-the-Park. Reminder to start tapping into fall leagues for MV Coach-of-
the-Year.
7. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. Discuss Trail way and Sidewalk System: We have a Trail way booklet from May 1992 that
needs updating. If we can get an electronic copy, we can recommend changes. There is a
map of existing and proposed trails and sidewalks from the 2008 Comprehensive Plan that
also needs updating. Can coordinate with Minnesota State Aid streets and Metro Transit
bus routes.
What constitutes a trail way? Is it just off-road, or does it include shoulder/parking lanes?
Do we need to mark it with double paint stripes?
Need to identify which existing trail ways have sidewalks and which are shoulder/parking
lanes. Then find what is connected and where gaps are.
Need to look at Street and Utilities Committee plans for upcoming street projects next year
and consider suggesting trail ways.
Kroeger, Kunz, and Peterson will meet with DeBar to discuss trail way system and
make suggestions for improvements to October meeting.
8. NEW BUSINESS
A. Recommend Improvements for BBC Donation Funding: Motion by Kroeger, 2nd by
Peterson to propose donation dedication 1) for furnishings at Lambert Park Building
(tables and chairs) and 2) Music-in-the-Park. Motion Passed 6-0
B. Review Fee Schedule:
Recommend Two-Tiers for shelter rentals:
Tier I: Groveland, Hillview, and City Hall Park shelters
Tier II: Silverview, Random, and Lambert Park shelters
Continue with 4 Classes as is
Keep $50 service fee for Tier I groups of 50 or more
Raise service fee to $75 for Tier II groups of 50 or more
Change Fees to 4-hour time blocks. Can rent multiple 4-hour blocks.
Tier I
Class I: $25
Class II: $50s
Class III: $75
Class IV: $100
Motion by Palm, 2nd by Kunz to recommend above fee structure for park shelter
rentals. Motion Passed 6-0.
Motion by Kroeger, 2nd by Peterson to keep field fee structure the same. Motion
Passed 6-0
C. Review Layout for Lambert Park Baseball Field Improvements: Fill in depressions and level
off existing field. Fencing to be put in this fall. All fencing including backstop and concrete
maintenance strip at fence base estimated at $12,000. Motion by Kroeger, 2nd by Kunz
to approve fencing cost not to exceed $15,000. Motion Passed 5-0 (Aukee absent for
vote).
Motion by Aukee, 2nd by Arel for field restoration not to exceed $7500. Motion
Passed 6-0.
D. Review Layout for Hillview Park Ice Skating/Hockey Rink Improvements. City Staff will talk
with Hillview Park neighbor directly north of proposed rink site and invite resident to
October meeting.
9. REPORTS
A. Reports of Commission Members:
Saturday, Sept. 24th 5:00 Music of the Night at Irondale High School.
Park bench at Arden Park has been installed. Consider making a trail behind compost site.
Aerator at Silverview on hold again.
Need to discuss rink attendants and hours with MVCC in October
What happened to the trees at Hillview Park? City staff looking into it. NOT EAB. Plan to
replace them.
Concern with MVCC leadership turnover. Is there a succession plan? Is there a paper
trail for new directors to follow? Will be discussed at YMCA meeting.
Why are there several white oak trees marked for removal?
Tier II:
Class I: $50
Class II: $75
Class III: $100
Class IV: $150
B. Reports of City Staff: Maintenance doing aeration and fall fertilization, working on soccer
fields, and Lambert Park. Will be getting mowers ready for next spring. Benches are
available through Ramsey County Thousand Bench Grant. Suggest along Silver Lake Road
trail way, Lambert Park, Arden. Suggest the Commissioners who are developing trail
way to consider placements. Random building had damage, disc golf hole stolen.
Term expires for some, so consider applications
C. Reverse-Angle-Parking at Lambert Park to go before City Council Monday, Sept. 26th.
10. REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS / OTHER BUSINESS
A. Next Regular Commission Meeting: October 27, 2011
1. Recommend Ice Skating/Hockey Rink Improvements at Hillview Park
2. Review Emerald Ash Borer Management Plan
3. Discuss Long-Term City Forestry Options
4. Discuss annual meeting with City Council Work Session
11. ADJOURNMENT: Motion by Kunz, 2nd by Aukee to adjourn at 9:40 PM. Motion Passed 6-0
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Multi-Purpose Room C and Youth
Room (Seating up to 30-40)
For multi-purpose rooms and
gymnasium rentals, if the MVCC is not
otherwise open, the permit holder will be
charged an additional $15/hour for a
staff fee.
Class I 2011 2012
Hourly Rate (2 hr min.): $38.00 $40.00
4 Hour block: $130.00 $134.00
Class II
Hourly Rate (2 hr min.): $50.00 $52.00
4 Hour block: $165.00 $170.00
Class III
Hourly Rate (2 hr min.): $58.00 $60.00
4 Hour block: $195.00 $201.00
Class IV
Hourly Rate (2 hr min.): $68.00 $71.00
4 Hour block: $230.00 $237.00
Other Charges Overhead Projectors: $10/day
TV & VCR: $15/day
Microphone $40/day
Screen: $35/day
LCD Projector & Screen $20 / hour,
$75 / day
$100 /day
$25 / hour
Lobby $130 / day
Bar $20
Lattice $50
Cooler $50 / day
Coffee Pot and Carafes $10
Table Linens $3 each
Napkins $.15 each
Playland $25 / hour, $100 / day
Gymnasium Rental
Full Gym (Up to 4 hours – hourly rate)
Full Gym (Hourly Rate Exceeding 4
Hours)
Half Gym (Up to 4 Hours – hourly rate)
Half Gym (Hourly Rate Exceeding 4
hours)
Class I: $35
Class II: $40
Class III: $45
Class IV: $60
Class I: $70
Class II: $80
Class III: $90
Class IV: $120
Class I: $25
Class II: $30
Class III: $35
Class IV: $50
Class I: $50
Class II: $60
Class III: $70
Class IV: $120
The following are expectations for formal Bike and Walkway configurations. Formal as in those that would be identified on a map
and marked with signs.
• Bikeway – No or limited parking conflict, clear path with visibility consistent with speed, continuous and maintained. On or
Off street, 4-8’ wide, May or may not be paved.
• Walkway – Clear path with visibility consistent with speed, continuous, maintained, with potential shared usage with
pedestrians. Off street, 4’ wide minimum, may or may not be paved.
The following proposes formal Bike and Walkways through the City of Mounds View, the connecting landmarks and current status of
the route. Parks, Civic and Educational facilities were considered as well as connection with other regional trailways. However, bus
routes were not a consideration, although probably sufficiently addressed indirectly.
Road –
North/South
Proposed
Bikeway
Proposed
Walkway
Connecting Landmarks Status
Long Lake Road Yes Yes Connects Random and Arden Parks
and Irondale HS
Full North/South route
Separate on street bikeway and
sidewalks along majority of length –
North end needs attention at Co Rd J
Silver Lake Road –
Red Oak
Yes Yes Connects Silverview and Woodcrest
Parks
Full North/South route
Sidewalk along entire Silver Lake Road.
Sidewalk along portion of Red Oak by CR
10
Quincy Yes Yes Connects Oakwood and Greenfield
Parks, Pinewood Elementary and into
industrial area
Sidewalk along portion of length
Groveland Yes No Connects Groveland Park On street bike path along portion of
length
Edgewood Yes Yes Connects Edgewood MS, City Hall, City
Hall Park and Community Center
Reconstructed portion of street has
defined sidewalk and bikeways
Road –East/West Proposed
Bikeway
Proposed
Walkway
Connecting Landmarks Status
Co Rd H Yes Yes Connects Edgewood MS, Irondale HS,
Sunnyside Elementary, Rice Creek
North Regional Trail, future link to
TCAAP development
Full East/West route
Sidewalk on one or both sides for
majority of length
Co Rd H2 Yes Yes Connects Silverview Park and through
industrial area
Full East/West route
Sidewalks along portion of length
Co Rd I Yes Yes Connects Silverview and Lakeside
Parks, Pinewood Elementary, and
Shoreview pathways
Full East/West route
Sidewalks along portion of length
Co Rd J (85th) No Yes Connection to Blaine and Shoreview
trailways and Long Lake Road trailway
Full East/West route
Sidewalks along portion of length on
south side
Arden No Yes Connects Groveland and Arden Parks On street bike path along portion of
length
Hillview No Yes Connects Hillview and Greenfield Parks On street bike path along portion of
length
Priorities:
Fill the Gaps: Short Term - Co Rd H walkway (sidewalk) between Edgewood and Silver Lake Road coinciding with street construction
project in area. Medium Term – Complete Co Rd 10 trailways (North and South sides), Long Lake Rd at north end, continuation of
existing walkways along main E/W and N/S routes.
Other Thoughts: Recreation ≠ Bus Commuter Use
ICE HOCKEY AND SKATING RINK SUMMARY
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
Participation Summary
2003/04 2004/05 2005/06 2006/07 2007/08 2009/10 2010/11
Hillview Park 693 761 422 1,079 924 739
Lambert Park 762 428 609 566 712 701
Groveland Park 368 255 95 282 305 195
Season Total 1,823 1,444 1,126 - 1,927 1,941 1,635
Operation Summary
2003/04 2004/05 2005/06 2006/07 2007/08 2009/10 2010/11
Hillview Park 55 43 35 48 50 52
Lambert Park 55 43 36 48 50 52
Groveland Park 55 39 17 48 50 52
Participation Analysis
2003/04 2004/05 2005/06 2006/07 2007/08 2009/10 2010/11
Hillview Park 12.6 17.7 12.1 0.0 22.5 18.5 14.2
Lambert Park 13.9 10.0 16.9 0.0 11.8 14.2 13.5
Groveland Park 6.7 6.5 5.6 0.0 5.9 6.1 3.8
Season Total 33.2 34.2 34.6 0.0 40.2 38.8 31.5
Operation Cost Estimate
Maint.1 Utilities2 YMCA3 Total %
Hillview Park 2,550$ 800$ 3,500$ 6,850$ 36%
Lambert Park 2,550$ 800$ 3,500$ 6,850$ 36%
Groveland Park 1,000$ 700$ 3,500$ 5,200$ 28%
Season Total 6,100$ 2,300$ 10,500$ 18,900$ 100%
1. Maintenance costs includes Public Works labor, water, and fuel.
2. Utility costs include natural gas and electric.
3. YMCA costs are for warming house attendants (budget amount used).
Park Facility
Average No. of Participates per Day
Park Facility
Cost Breakdown
Park Facility
No. of Visitors
Park Facility
No. of Days Open