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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/25/1990CITY OF -MOUNDS VIEW PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AGENDA October 25,1990 City Hall 6:30 p.m. II.. Call To Order +SII. Approval of the September 27, 1990 minutes I. Councilmember's Report IV. Chairperson's Report V. Agenda Additions AE7715A 7'0 L ��►.�/�" Land Acquisitions - Groveland Park /V11. SLP Request for Lakeside Park Operations II.Security Lighting at Groveland Park 7x. 7.Winona Aquatic Center Report , 1990 Warming House/Rink Survey Results XI. Adjournment MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW COUNTY OF RAMSEY STATE OF MINNESOTA September 27, 1990 Mounds View City Hall 6:30 p.m. CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 6:35 p.m. by Chairperson Burmeister. ROLL CALL Commissioners present: Burmeister, Starr, Trettel, Silvis, Long and Stevenson. Staff present: Director Saarion. Visitor present: Tom LaHoud, 2373 Laport Dr. MINUTES A motion was made by Commissioner Stevenson, seconded by Commissioner Long to approve the August 16, 1990 minutes as written. Motion passed: 6 ayes, 0 nayes. CHAIRPERSON'S REPORT Chairperson Burmeister reported on improvements at Lakeside Park including the installation of an 8 foot wide concrete walking path and improvements to the softball field. Chairperson Burmeister reported that on Saturday, September 22, 1990, he, along with the Spring Lake Park Lions Club members and Boy Scouts, laid over 5,000 yards of sod on the softball field. Completion of the softball field including fencing, backstop and sodding is set for this fall. AGENDA ADDITIONS Resident Tom LaHoud expressed his concern regarding the City's poor ice skating facilities. He thought that Hillview and Groveland rinks are too small. He asked that the City give greater priority to ice rinks including additional facilities and maintenance services. He asked that the City consider a full hockey rink at Hillview plus the addition of a large pleasure rink to the west of the park building. Mr. LaHoud offered his and his neighbors services for construction of a new hockey rink if the City supplied the materials. 1 The Commission replied to Mr. LaHoud's concerns informing him that the change to Hillview's large rinks originally began with complaints from neighbors regarding water drainage. The water from the rinks drained into their yards. In efforts to remedy the situation, the City moved the rinks further away from homes, decreased the size and installed a French drainage system. The drainage of the park limits the area that rinks can be placed. Because the demand for both a hockey and pleasure rink was requested, both facilities were offered in decreased size. The water problems of the neighbors has been rectified, but the result is a decrease in skating facilities at Hillview Park. The Commission informed Mr. LaHoud that a larger pleasure rink at Groveland and Hillview Park were provided last year after the Council received his request. The pleasure rink at Hillview is as large as possible due to the parks drainage system. The pleasure rink at Groveland too is limited in size due to other park facilities. Staff noted Mr. LaHoud's list of maintenance needs regarding Hillview hockey rink. This list will be forwarded to the Public Works Department. FESTIVAL IN THE PARK Staff and Commissioners reviewed "Festival in the Park". Most Commissioners attended the Festival. It was agreed that the weather hampered attendance, but that entertainment, community organization participation and fireworks were enjoyed by those in attendance. SILVER VIEW PARK IMPROVEMENT PLAN Staff informed the Commission that the City Council passed the motion to approve the Silver View Park Improvement Plan with the addition of "no lights on the softball fields." The Commission expressed concern regarding the reduction in the buffer areas and the inclusion of more mowing in the pond area. Staff informed the Commission of intentions of requesting donations from the Lions Club for playground equipment. The Commission suggested that different options for funding be given to the Lions Club to provide better chances of funding. 2 CITY HALL SOFTBALL FIELD LIGHTING Staff updated the Commission regarding the CouncTs request for softball lighting cost information regarding City Hall Park. PARK MAINTENANCE Staff informed the Commission that the Council passed the resolution that park maintenance is a Public Works Department responsibility since that department has the control regarding park maintenance task performance. GREENFIELD PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT 1991 PARKS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET REQUESTS Staff informed the Commission that all calls regarding Park Maintenance are routed to Public Works, and all calls regarding Park development or improvements are routed to the Parks, Recreation and Forestry Department. Park improvements and capital remain a budgetary item of the Parks, Recreation and Forestry Department, whereas, parks operating costs are the budgetary responsibility of Public Works. Staff informed the Commission that Gametime had been contacted to request information regarding any similar complaints of misuse of the monkey rope. Gametime has not received that information to date, but will forward it to the City as soon as possible. Staff reviewed the 1991 Parks Capital Improvement budget requests and asked for any additions. The items listed in the Silver View Park Improvement Plan are listed plus other needed park items and some "nice but not imperative" items. Commissioner Stevenson requested staff to add a sentence to the City Hall sprinkling system stating that if the west field was lit the sprinkling cost would decrease from two fields to one field. ADJOURNMENT A motion was made by Commissioner Silvis and seconded by Commissioner Stevenson to adjourn the meeting. The motion passed: 6 ayes, 0 nayes. Respectfully submitted, Mary Saarion, Director Parks, Recreation and Forestry 3 1 V1'QW Of OWS RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA 2401 HIGHWAY 10 MOUNDS VIEW, MINN. 55112 DEPARTMENT OF PARKS, 7843055 RECREATION AND FORESTRY October 18, 1990 Dear Parks and Recreation Commissioners: One item of interest on the agenda is the opportunity for land acquisition at Groveland Park. Please review the memo and drive by and obsaerve the property to familiarize yourself for discussion on the issue at the meeting. This is a regularly scheduled meeting for Thursday, October 25, 1990 at 6:30 p.m. held in the Council Chambers. Please call me at 784-3055 if you are unable to attend the meeting. Sincerely, Mary Saarion, Director Parks, Recreation & Forestry MEMO TO: PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIONERS FROM: MARY SAARION, DIRECTOR PARKS, RECREATION & FORESTRY DATE: OCTOBER 17, 1990 SUBJECT: GROVELAND PARK LAND ACQUISITION As you can see from the memo which was presented to the City Council, the City has been given the opportunity to consider acquisition of the Newton property which lies on the northern border of Groveland Park. The three parcel properties include a grassy area which the City currently mows and is used by park users as parkland for pick up games of football and other grassy area activities. The second parcel includes the house and new double garage. The third parcel is a wooded lot. The two parcels together provide through access from Groveland Road and Fairchild Avenue. I would like to share with you some of my thoughts regarding the "user" possibilities of this property if the City was in a position to acquire the property. - The house is old but has a brick exterior making it fairly maintenance free. The interior is designed with a large living and dining space. I think that this home could be easily transformed into a Sr. Center or Youth Center or Pre -School Center. It has the bathroom and kitchen facilities necessary for these uses although remodeling may be necessary to comply with public use codes. The accessability of the building is excellent offering access off of either road. Plenty of room is available for parking. The need has been expressed as we know through the City survey regarding the need for a Youth and Sr. Center. The needs were expressed by the citizens for such programs and facilities. Perhaps this opportunity would lend towards that reality. -The grassy land used now for park play would probably be sold for a house lot. This would decrease the playspace that is now being used at the park. Any new residents may not be as good neighbors as the Newton family. -The purchase of the two lots together which provide a through access would "square off" the parkland and increase the size of Groveland Park. (see the council's memo) -I don't think that the wooded parcel would benefit the City unless another use idea would require a large amount of land to accommodate the intended use. Of course, as we all know, there is a price to pay for parkland. The cost of the properties may be from $34,000 to $140,000 depending on the number of parcels and which parcels the City would be interested in acquiring. The City Council has requested the Parks and Recreation Commission to discuss the issue and provide the City Council with a recommendation regarding this issue. If you have a chance please take a side trip to Groveland Park and see for yourself the land in question and it's relationship to Groveland Park. The Commission can then discuss the program and consider a recommendation for the City Coundil. L�,&/Yr 9 MEMO TO: MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS FROM: MARY SAARION, DIRECTOR PARKS, RECREATION & FORESTRY DATE: OCTOBER 10, 1990 SUBJECT: LAND ACQUISITION FOR GROVELAND PARK I received a telephone call from Mr. Jack Newton, son of Otas Newton, former Forestry Assistant for the City of Mounds View. Mr. Otas Newton was the person who donated land along the north boundary of Groveland Park to the City of Mounds View. Mr. and Mrs. Newton have passed away. Their son Jack called to inform the City that the Newton family wishes to sell the land. Because of their parent's interest in the parks, the family wishes to first offer sale of the three parcels of land to the City of Mounds View. Parcels A and B together provides access on both Groveland Road and Fairchild Avenue. Parcel C is located north of parcel B and is a wooded lot. The attached maps show the property along with size and acreage. Mr. Newton has indicated that the family is very flexible and would be agreeable to selling the parcels separately or in a group of two or all together. I asked him for a ballpark off- the-cuff idea on price and he said that an offer was formerly made for parcel C for $34,000. He suggested that parcel A would be comparable in worth. Parcel B includes the house and large garage and Mr. Newton suggested $80,000 for a price. Mr. Newton wanted to be sure that these prices were understood to be a guess on his part. He indicated that an appraiser being requested to perform a professional appraisal on the property. I informed Mr. Newton that I would present this information to the council at the next agenda session on October 15, 1990. At this time the Council can discuss whether or not to pursue the possibilities of land acquisition. 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'° �o GALE`AD 6 s 4•13_184' a(37� �� f,3.2 ; I Off' (37) (.36) (35)1 (4 4) , =r MEMO TO: PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIONERS FROM: MARY SAARION, DIRECTOR PARKS, RECREATION & FORESTRY DATE: OCTOBER 18, 1990 SUBJECT: SLP REQUEST FOR LAKESIDE PARK OPERATIONS As you can see from the attached letters, Spring Lake Park City Council has requested the City of Mounds View Council to consider changing the duties in the responsibility of operations at Lakeside Park. The City Council requested staff to write a letter to the SLP City Council to invite them to a joint meeting regarding this topic. The letter is attached. Also attached are memorandums which I have provided for Jay McCluskey, Director of Parks and Recreation for the City of SLP. I would like to have discussion regarding this issue. October 16, 1990 Good Day: citq Of 0Un s to RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA 2401 HIGHWAY 10 MOUNDS VIEW, MINN. 55112 784-3055 FAX: 784-3462 This letter is in response to your letter dated September 24, 1990 regarding the Spring Lake Park council's desire for the City of Mounds View to provide the maintenance operations at Lakeside Park while the City of Spring Lake Park accept the responsibilities of administration of the beach operations, budget, insurance and other. The Mounds View City Council met last evening for an agenda session and discussed the issue. It was requested that the two city councils meet together on Monday, November 19, 1990 for a discussion regarding this issue. Please invite the Spring Lake Park City Council as well as staff to the Mounds View City Hall council chambers at 7:00 p.m. on Monday, November 19, 1990 to discuss jointly the operations of Lakeside Park. Sincerely, Mary Saarion, Director Parks, Recreation & Forestry printed on recycled paper MEMO TO: MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS FROM: MARY SAARION, DIRECTOR PARKS, RECREATION AND FORESTRY DATE: OCTOBER 2, 1990 SUBJECT: LETTER FROM SPRING LAKE PARK CITY COUNCIL On Monday, October 1, I received the attached letter from Jay McCluskey, Director of Parks and Recreation for the City of Spring Lake Park. The letter indicates that the Spring Lake Park City Council wishes the Mounds View City Council to consider assuming park maintenance responsibilities for Lakeside Park. When the initial agreement regarding the responsibilities for operation of Lakeside Park was made, duties were divided according to available resources. Since the City of Mounds View already administers an aquatics program and Spring Lake Park does not it seemed logical that the City of Mounds View operate the beach operation. Likewise, the City of Spring Lake Park has a Parks Department which is in close proximity to Lakeside Park and since the majority of the parkland lies in Spring Lake Park, it seemed logical that Spring Lake Park assume the maintenance operations of the park. The Council may wish to consider these options: 1. Accept the maintenance responsibility. Mike Ulrich estimates that the maintenance of Lakeside Park requires approximately 12 hours of work/week for basic maintenance duties, excluding projects and unforeseen needs. 2. Continue with the operations of Lakeside Park as in the past with the City of Mounds View assuming the administration of the beach operations and the City of Spring Lake Park assuming the maintenance operations of the park. Each City would continue to fund half of the operations cost ($11,500/city in 1990). 3. Consider giving Lakeside Park to the City of Spring Lake Park to assume the full operation. Council's direction is requested regarding this issue. MS/SL /ate , Attachment City of Spring Lake Park Parks & Recreation Department 1301 Eighty First Avenue Northeast Spring Lake Park, Minnesota 55432 (612) 784-6491 Mayor Harley Wells September 24, 1990 Councilmembers Jeanne Mason John M. Conde Don Mathiowetz Barbara Carlson MEMO Clerk -Treasurer Donald B. Busch Deputy Clerk Barbara Nelson TO: MARY SAAR I ON Chief of Police Bruce Porter FROM: JAY McCLUSKEY Parks & Recreation Director SUBJECT: SWITCHING RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE Jay T. McCluskey OPERATION OF LAKESIDE PARK Public Works Director The Spring Lake Park City Council Chuck Rundle has asked me to see if Mounds View would consider switching our responsibilities at Lakeside Park. Our City Council would like to have Spring Lake Park coordinate the administration and Mounds View take over the maintenance. Please give this some thought, discuss it with your staff and qet back to me at your earliest convenience. MEMO TO: JAY MCCLUSKEY, DIRECTOR, SPRING LAKE PARK RECREATION DEPARTMENT FROM: MARY SAARION, DIRECTOR PARKS, RECREATION & FORESTRY DEPARTMENT DATE: OCTOBER 17, 1990 SUBJECT: IN-KIND SERVICES SUPPORTING LAKESIDE PARK This memo outlines in-kind services which the City of Mounds View offers in the operation of Lakeside Park. - The City of Mounds View provides insurance coverage for Lakeside Park. The City of Mounds View processes claims. -The City of Mounds View provides financial management of the reserve funds which have been accumulated over the years to be used in times when the budget exceeds budget. -The City of Mounds View provides the water for Lakeside Park and also provides the water services. -The City of Mounds View provides the striping of the parking lot and also the resealing and other maintenance needs of the aging parking lot. -The City of Mounds View provides plowing services for Lakeside Park during winter programming. -The City of Mounds View provides street sweeping services on the same schedule that other city parks are swept. -The City provides police patrolling at Lakeside Park. -The City of Mounds View administers the budget of Lakeside Park and taken the responsibility of controlling the budget to ensure that expenditures do not exceed the revenues. -The City of Mounds View hires and supervises approximately seven seasonal personnel annually and implemented employee financial records and processes including employee files, evaluations, payroll functions, and training with the in-kind services of the Mounds View Financial Director, Accountant_, Parks and Recreation Director and Administrative Assistant. The seasonal part-time Lakeside Park maintenance worker, although supervised by Spring Lake Park, is employed by the City of Mounds View who administers this position in the ways here described. -In an effort to assist with the maintenance of Lakeside Park,the seasonal lifeguarding staff and aquatic supervisor is requested to assist with beach maintenance -tasks including sand raking, beach cleaning, beachhouse inspection and cleaning, litter pick- up, sweeping, removal of glass and other debris, cleaning of windows, doors, patio, walkways, parking lot, and benches and picnic tables. These duties are provided over and above their duties as lifeguards. -The City of Mounds View offer swimming lessons at the beach and administers the program with the staffing of Water Safety Instructors (certified instructors) and implementation of advertisement, publicity, registration responsibilities, and class lists. Although the beach conditions have not been conducive to swimming lessons the past two years, lessons have been administered the years previous to the drought. Because the City of Mounds View offers a full program of aquatic instruction at Edgewood Pool, the beach lessons basically benefit the residents of Spring Lake Park. -The City of Mounds View provides weekly entertainment at Lakeside Beach with the provision of the Puppet Wagon performances. This is a popular program for preschoolers and lower elementary age children. -The City of Mounds View administers all the park reservations and special requests for Lakeside Park for activities from company picnics to church potlucks to Soccer Festival groups weddings, reunions and other events. These are an example of in-kind services which the City of Mounds View offers, which is not funded out of the Lakeside Park budget but is absorbed through positions which are funded through the Mounds View general fund. The City of Spring Lake Park, in turn, supervises the major maintenance service to Lakeside Park. With the monies that both cities contribute, a part-time maintenance worker is employed to perform maintenance tasks at the park. This may include daily trash removal, weeding, repairing equipment, water treatment mowing and other duties. The time allotted is 4 hours per week for 14 weeks. (It is my understanding that this employee is also employed by the City of Spring Lake Park to perform park maintenance work in the other parks of Spring Lake Park during the other 4 hour each weekday.) There are 16 hours of park maintenance time allotted at Lakeside Park each week. Considering that the lifeguards also perform maintenance tasks, the hours per week in maintenance exceed 16 hours each week. To keep this amount of time in perspective perhaps this number of hours should be compared to the number of hours spent in park maintenance in other city parks. It seems that this allotment of time should be more than adequate to perform the tasks of park maintenance at Lakeside Park. This is excluding special projects. Special projects have been popping up at Lakeside Park in the last two summers as a result of the monies donated for improvements from the Spring Lake Park Lion's Club. The City of Spring Lake Park has provided additional time in the effort to complete special projects. However, this is a separate item than the normal job responsibilities of the operation and maintenance of the Park. Special projects and maintenance are two separate functions and should not be confused. Special projects, rather than being performed in-house, could be contracted out totally. If all the special projects were contracted services, there should be no undue strain on maintaining the responsibilities of parks maintenance at Lakeside Park. MEMO TO: PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION FROM: MARY SAARION, DIRECTOR PARKS, RECREATION & FORESTRY DATE: OCTOBER 18, 1990 SUBJECT: SECURITY LIGHTING AT GROVELAND PARK Staff presented the memorandum (which is attached to this memo)to the City Council regarding additional security lighting at Groveland Park. The council opted for the two directional lighting fixtures installed on the NSP pole on Fairchild. This option is the least expensive and will provide the security lighting which is desired and does not put any risk to the City other than paying monthly electrical charges. MEMO TO: MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS FROM: MARY SAARION, DIRECTOR PARKS, RECREATION & FORESTRY DATE: OCTOBER 9, 1990 SUBJECT: SECURITY LIGHTING AT GROVELAND P Councilmember Quick requested security lighting at Groveland Park in the general vacinity of the picnic tables, amongst the black locust trees. Neighbors had complained that youth would congregate there after curfew hours. I have contacted three companies for estimates for lighting the area. Each company provided a different option, however, all three companies agreed that the best option for the city is as explained in #1. 1. An NSP lightpole already exists on Fairchild Avenue and has direct line to the picnic area. There are no trees to block any light that would be directed to the area. NSP estimates that having two directional 250 watt lights on the pole, shining in the direction of the picnic area would provide more than adequate light for security reasons. The cost would a monthly charge of $14.00 for electricity. The light would be on a photo -cell. This is the least expensive option and would provide excellent security lighting. The lighting would be directed towards the park and therefore would not be a nuisence light shining in anyone's house. 2. Keller Electic Co. provided an estimate for placing a pole and setting a lamp to light the area. The power would come from the building and would require trenching around the tot lot to the picnic area. The electrician did not recommend an overhead wire because of the many trees and branches and because of the totlot area. He provided costs for using both a wooden pole and a metal pole. The cost is $2,100 with a metal pole and $1,900 for a wooden pole. 3. Bacon Electric provided a cost for placing a lamp on the existing security light pole which is located between the building and the totlot. A security light already exists on this pole for the totlot area. It was Dick's suggestion that a directional 1000 watt lamp be placed on this pole shining towards the picnic area. This, too would provide more than adequate light. However, the light from this source would shine towards the homes on Fairchild. This may or may not be a problem. The cost of this work would be $500.00. Dick indicated that he would not bid on the trenching of underground wire on this project because it is too difficult to work amongst all the trees. Also, Dick indicated that an overhead wire was not recommended because of all the trees and because it would go over the totlot area. I talked with Ron Schmitz, Groveland Park Foundation President, and explained the options. -Ron likes option #1 because it is least expensive. The light would shine away from the homes on Fairchild. Also, the lamps would be the property of NSP and therefore the City would not have the obligation of repair or replacement if broken. The monthly electrical charges would be the only cost. The light would be more than adequate. The Groveland Park Foundation funds remain at just a couple hundred dollars. Staff requests council's direction. Since the security lighting is not a budgeted item, a choice of lighting options and funding must be determined. MEMO TO: PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSIONERS FROM: MARY SAARION, DIRECTOR PARKS, RECREATION & FORESTRY DATE: OCTOBER 18, 1990 SUBJECT: WINONA'S AQUATIC CENTER! This is a report which I recently received from a colleage in Winona. The City of Winona recently acted on a progressive revenue producing recreation service for the community. The water slide, aquatic center is a big hit! The reports for the first year show a profit of $70,000.00! This is a revenue producing project that will hopefully provide added revenues to the Winona Park and Recreation system for years to come. It is a double benefit to the community when a fun and exciting facility can also provide needed revenues. This is one success story. W I N 0 N A A U A T I C C E N T E R The following information was taken from computor data sheets dated September 30, 1990. I. General Statistics A. Season Memberships Resident Non -Resident Total Memberships *Family 539 29 568 Adult 43 4 47 Youth 30 30 Senior Citizen 2 2 *Low Income 139 139 TOTALS 753 33 786 *Total children included in Family Memberships: 2,002 (2.9 per family) B. Attendance General Admission Memberships Passes Totals Youth 32,144 31,528 33 63,705 Adult 13,184 13,134 15 26,333 45,328 44,662 48 *90,038 *Average attendance per day: 919 Highest day. . . . . . . . 2,601 Lowest day . . . . . . . . . 28 C. Waterslide Rides - 211,722 _ 98 days = 2,160 per day Highest Day: 3,137 D. Days and Hours 1. June 6 - September 3 Noon - 8:00 P.M. 90 days September 4th - 15th 3:30 - 7:00 P.M. 12 days 102 days 2. Temperature dais: Below 75 - 14 days Rain - 7 days Closed - 4 days II. 1990 Budget A. Personnel (4720-1020) $37,565 2. 1. Lifeguards, attendants, cashiers $32,580 29,685.33 2. Maintenance (part-time) 4,985 $53,785.05 B. Advertising (4720-1114) 3,000 C. Buildings and Grounds (4720-1123) 11000 D. Utilities (4720-1231 & 1233) 17,765 E. Insurance (4720-1261) 2,000 F. Operating Supplies (4720-1310) 600 G. Parts & Tools (4720-1340) 300 H. Chemicals (4720-1378) 6,100 TOTAL 68,330 III. Income (less tax) A. Memberships 1. Family $30,256.38 2. Adult 1,109.20 3. Youth 11190.98 TOTAL 32,556.56 B. General Admission C. Other 1. Adult $24,099.72 2. Youth 29,685.33 TOTAL $53,785.05 $53,785.05 : 98 days = $549 average per day 1. Gift Passes $ 42.00 2. Merchandise 1,272.94 3. Lockers 1,806.17 4. Pop Concessions 507.64 5. Food Contract 300.00 6. Miscellaneous 156.97 TOTAL T4,085.72 D. Summary of Income 1. Memberships $32,556.56 2. General Admission 53,785.05 3. Other 4,085.72 TOTAL INCOME 90,427.33 NOTE: If we had charged $1 for 7 rides on the waterslide, the income would have been 211,722 rides : 7 = $30,246. " ' u IV. Expenses A. Personnel (Salaries - out of pocket) 1. Lifeguards, attendants, cashiers 2_ Maintenance TOTAL NOTE: Cost Code Hours Cost Maintenance 1,746 $18,579.53 B. Supplies, Materials & Utilities 1. General Supplies 2. Program Supplies 3. Utilities TOTAL C. Summary of Expenses 1. Personnel 2. Supplies, materials & utilities V. Summary of Finances A. Available Funds (through 9-30-90) 1. 1990 Budget 2. Income from Aquatic Center B. Expenses (through 9-30-90) $64,234.27 4,985.00 69,219.27 $ 3,078.71 10,830.38 4,715.55 18,624.64 $69,219.27 18,624.64 87,843.91 TOTAL BALANCE $68,330.00 90,427.33 $158,757.33 $ 87,843.91 $ 70,913.42 The 1990 Aquatic Center was a success in spite of the generally inclement swimming weather. In reviewing our total attendance with other communities, we experienced much higher attendance than our counterparts in other communities. We realize that the attendance and income will level off, but we expect increases in each for next summer. The expenses are expected to remain about the same or go down a bit as we gain experience in the operation of the pool. If you have any questions concerning this report, please contact me. Bob Welch Director of Parks and Recreation Winona, MN CITY OF ST. LOUIS PARK October 17, 1990 TO: Warming House Program Coordinator FROM: Ward C. Wallin, Recreation Supervisor RE: Metro Warming House Survey Thank you for participating in the Metro Warming House Survey last March. With snowfall just around the corner, I've decided that I can no longer use softball as an excuse for not sending out the results. I hope you find this information helpful and valuable as you plan for the upcoming season. It's interesting to see how differently we program our warming houses, yet all seem to reach a common goal - "serve the people." Good Luck! 5005 Minnetonka Boulevard St. Louis Park, Minnesota 55416-2290 Phone: 612-924-2500 Fax: 612-924-2663 Printed on recycled paper WARMING HOUSE SURVEY MARCH 1990 CITY PROGRAM PROGRAM ATTENDANTS ALLOWED EMPLOYEE t�IOKA OPENS CLOSES `~ TO SKATE WHILE WRKG IDENTIFICATION_ WEEKEND RINK CONCESSIONS SPECIAL fst WK DEC MARCH 1 40%/ICE--60% BLDG MAINTENANCE SOLD/BY WHOM PROMOS APPLE VALLEY APPROX 12/16 PRES DAY LEAD ACTIVITIES WITH KIDS BRIGHT JACKETS CITY STAFF pp ARDEN HILLS APPROX 12/18 FEB 18 or 25 CLEANING/ORGANIZATION JACKETS/TAGSNO HEAVY SNOW/CITY MAINT ATTENDANTS CAN SELL POP/CANDY NOT NOW BLAINE DEC 15 MARCH 1 NONE NONE PARK CREW NO BLOOMINGTON MID DEC MID FEB JACKETS NO i YES/POP SKATING LESSONS BROOKLYN CENTER DEC 15 PRES. DAY DISCOURAGE DUE TO LIABILITIES NONE NAME TAGS HEAVY SNOW/PLOWING CREW NO/MACHINES VANDALIZED SKATING PARTIES BROOKLYN PARK MID DEC MID FEB JACKETS MAINT CREW FOR SNOW NO COMMUNITY BROCHURE BURNSVILLE DEC 21 PRES. DAY NOT RECOMMENDED NO/POOR RESULTS W/JACKETS MAINT CREW IF NEEDED NO NO COLUMBIA HEIGHTS MID DEC MID FEB NONE RED JACKETS LATE FR!/MAINT NONONE-BUT COMM. BROCHURE/ELEM. FLYER COON RAPIDS MID DEC END FEB NO SUPERVISORY SHOULD ATTENDANTS NO NO COTTAGE GROVE MID DEC MID FEB SKATING ONLY ORANGE VESTS-NAME TAGS CITY CREW NO NO CRYSTAL DEC 16 LOW ATTEN HRS WITH KIDS CURRENTLY NONE/JCKTS IN PAST NO NO EDEN PRAIRIEMID DEC FEB 12 MID FEB NO NONE NONE PARK CREW NO YES/CAKES, CANDY, BEVERAGES NO NO EDINA APPROX 12/20 FEBRUARYSWEAT TEN SKATERS OR FEWER SHIRTS PK CREW/FRI PM-SAT AM NO YES FAGAN MID DEC MID FEB NO/UNLESS WITH ONLY USERS RED JACKETS PARKAMAINT. STAFF YES - CANDY AND POP NO FRIDLEY JAN 8 JAN 31 ONLY IF JACKETS AND BUTTONS NONE GOLDEN VALLEY MID DEC FEW SKATERS-NO HOCKEY RED JACKETS SAT - PARK MAINT. BROCHURE/LESSONS/SKATING PARTIES ffQPKINS/MTKA APPDX 12/15 MID FEB OEO. BIRTODAY PATRONS ARE SKATING NONE NONE ACCUM. SNOW ONLY NO NO NO iMVER GROVE HTS MIO DECMID NONE FEB IF ALL PATRONS ARE SKATING VEST iNEXTTYEAR LY CAN SELL POP/CANDY NO NO MAPLE GROVE MID DEC MID FEB NONE JJACKETS-NGE NAME TAGS ONAND INTSPEC. CASES NOTENDANTS MAPLEW000 DEC 15 FEB 11 YES-IF JACKETS PARK CREW - SATURDAY POP IS SOLD NO-ONLY IN QUARTERLY BROCHURE MINNEAPOLIS MID DEC PRES DAY WARMING HOUSE IS QUIET NONE SWEAT SHIRTS WITH DEPT. LOGO PARK MAINT & WH STAFF POP AND HOT CHOCOLATE NO MOUNDS VIEW/UIPDIR 3RD WK DEC 3RD WK FEB NAME TAGS PARKKEEPERSEQ= NO ADVERTISE IN SCHOOLS/NEWSPAPERS NEW BRIGHTON DEC 15-25 FEB 215'1990 NONE STAFF JACKETS PUBLIC WORKS/SNOW ONLY NO PRESS RELEASES NEW HOPE APPROX 12/16 APPROX 2/11 - NONE NONE JACKETS WITH CITY-LOGES PARKS CREW NO NO-EXCEPT RACES,RELAYS,ETC NO ST PAUL DEC 15 LAST SUN/FEB NONE NONE:- PARK MAINT/1 !A DAY YES NO OAKDALE APPROX 12/16 APpROX 2/24 -, ALLOWED TO SKATE/NO HOCKEY NONE - PARK CREW' NO NO NO v PLYMOUTH MID DEC PRES DAY kON£ WINDBREAKER'-JACKETS SHOVELED%ATTENOANTS NO RICHFIELD XMAS BREAK 8 WK PROGRAM FOR ACTIVITIESINO HOCKEY TRIED -JACKETS AND HATS MAINT. CREW-SAT AM POP BY MACHINE :IRCGULAR BROCHURE/CABLE INFO NO ROBBINSDALE APPROX 12/15 APPROX 2/15 NONE NONE MAINT' DIV' NO ROSEMOUNT -WEATHER PERMIT OPEN & CLOSE q#LY DURING LOW ATTENDANCE NONE IF NECS-P & R DEPT POP MACHINES ONLY NO-BUT WILL START IN 90-91 NOTICE ROSEVILLE MID DEC FEB 15 ONLY WHEN ORDER IS MAINTAINED NONE-- JACKETS NO-ATTN. SW8EP NO ON CABLE TV FLYERS IN SCHOOL, NEWSPAPER ST LOUIS PARK DEC 19 . FEB 1$QNLY IF FEW MAINT. CREW WILL TRY POP IN 1990 ST PAUL DEC 1 SKATERS-NO HOCKEY ORANGE JACKETS/NAME'-TAGS NOT.i POST-:AT SCHOOL, FLYERS, CABLE SHAKOPEE SAT/B 4 XMAS FEB 15 - MID ONLY TO PATROL NAME TAGS -• STAff & VOLUNTEERS NO KNOX,K.00KEY TOURNAMENTS SHOREVIEW FEB ANY TIlSE WHILE SLIPV. BLDG NONE AT SOME WHs-HOT DOGS,CANDY,POP NO SO ST 3rd SAT/DEC LAST SUN.FEB IF NO PROBLEM USERS-NO HOCKEY JACKETS T. STAFF CANDY BARS, POp ; SPkIIALS-BROOMBALL TOURNEY ETC- PAUL DEC 15 FEB 25 IF MAJORITY OF K-TOS ON ICE FOR SNOU FOR SNOLI ONLY-MAINT NO NO SPRING LAKE PK DEC 15 FEB 15 NO HOCKEY-25% HOUSE/75% ON ICE NOlIE NO NO NO WEST ST PAUL DEC 15 FEB 15 10 KjDS OR FEWER NONE NO NO NO WOODBURY DEC 23 FEB 25 NONE NONE NO NO NONE -- MAI NT%ATTN. SHOVEL NO NO NO WARMING HOUSE SURVEY IARCH 1990 CITY TOTAL +qp POP K-6 PO_ # SUPV. # WARM HOCKEY OPEN HOURS OF OPERATION WINTER BREAK HOURS -�, ANOKA RIS HOUSES RINKS SKATE M-F SAYSU M F # OF ATTENDENTS WHO ATTENDANTS APPLE VALLEY 18,000 30,000 - 4 9 4 3:30-10 9-9 12-9 SAT 9-5:30/6-9:30 9-9 SUN 12.9 HOLIDAYS PER SITE @ HOUSE -SCHEDULE SA_ LARY ARDEN HILLS 10,000 11 5 5 9 12 4.9 9-9 1-7 9-9 9-9 1-7 CLOSED 9 2 ATTENDANTS $ 5-6 ELAINE 38,700 3,870 7 5 7 5 5 4-9 10-9 1-9 12:30-9 12:30-9 12:30-9 12:30-9 2-3 2-3 PROG SUPV 5.50-6.00 BLOOMINGTON 86,460 6,081 21 4 7 4-9 10-9 1-9 10-9 10-9 1-9 1-5 PARKS DIR 3.75-4.25 BROOKLYN CENTER 30,000 5,000 9 21 23 21 y-9 10-5:30 1-8 1-5/6-9 9-4 1-5 1-5 3 RTC SUPV 4.50-6.25 BROOKLYN PARK 55,000 -- 15 9 6 9 4-9 1-9 1-9 4-9 1-9 1-9 1-9 2 ATTENDANTS 5.25-5.20 BURNSVILLE 49,000 4,400 13 15 13 22 4:30-8:30 12-5 12-5 1-8:30 12-5 12-5 1 + SUBS PROG SUPV 5.25-5.75 COLUMBIA HEIGHTS 20,000 -- 10 13 16 27 4-8:30 10-8:30 1-8:30 10-8:30 10-8:30 1-8:30 10-8:30 2 PROG SUPV 4.50-5.50 COON RAPIDS 48,600 9 10 5 10 3:30-8:30 10:30-8:30 1-8:30 10:30-8:30 10-8:30 1-8:30 10:30-8:3 2 SUPV 4.50-5.00 COTTAGE GROVE 22,000 6 9 12 23 4-9 10:00-9 1-9 1-6 XMAS & NEW YEARS EVES NOON-9 2 + 1 SUPV PROG SUPV 4.75-5.50 CRYSTAL 25,000 b 7 b 4-9 1-9 1-9 4-9 1-5 1-9 3 PK FOREMAN 4.50-5.00 EDEN PRAIRIE 43,000 3,950 10 7 10 9 10 M-TH 5-9 F-S 1-5,6-9 1-6 1-5,6-9 1-5,6-9 1-6 1-9 2 REP SUPV 4.25-4.50 EDINA 48,000 3,135 11 7 7 7 M-TH 4-9 Fri 4-10/Sat 9- 10/Sun 1-9 10-10 10-10 10-10 1 SUPV 4.50-5.00 EAGAN 45,000 4,754 26 11 10 12 4-9:30 9-9:30 1-9:30 12-9:30 9-9:30 1-9:30 1 SUPV 5.20-5.40 FRIDLEY 30,000 -- 8 12 15 11 4-9 10-9 12-9 10-9 10-9 12-9 3 PROG SUPV 4.50-5.00 GOLDEN GOLDEN VALLEY 21,800 2,500 2, 7 8 8 8 4-8:30 12-8:30 12-8:30 12-8:30 12-8:30 12-8:30 1_3 ATTENDANTS 4.50-5.50 66,000 14 7 6 7 4-9 10-9 1-9 10-9 10-9 1-9 2 ATTENDANTS 4.75-6.00 iNVER GROVE NTS 21,000 -- y 14 18 14 4-9:30 12-9-:30 12:30-9:30 12-9:30 12-9:30 12:30-9:30 2 ATTENDANTS 4.50-5.50 MAPLE GROVE 38,000 8 y 4 7 3:30-8:30 9-8:30 1-5 9-8:30 9-8:30 1-5 3 ATTENDANTS 4.50-5.50 MAPLEWOOD 32,000 -- 5 8 5 8 17 4-8:30 12-6 1-6 12-8:30 12-5 XMAS & NEW YRS EV 2'3 RINK SUPV 4.00-5.75 MINNEAPOLIS 370,951 24,890 - 7 15 6-9 12-9 1-5 2 PROG SPEC 5.00-5.50 MOUNDS VIEW 13,000 -- y 50 33 17 1:30-9:30 9:30-9:30 1:30-5:30 11:30-9:30 9:30-9:30 1:30-5:30 2 ASST AIR 4.00-5.00 NEW BRIGHTON 25,000 -- 8 y 7 3 y M-TH 3-8 F'-8 9-9 1-8 l�� ' 8 30 q:Co -Q.OD / CO '� �O CJOSEU 1.25 t FOREMAN 6/hr&15/hr NEW HOPE 23,000 7 6 8 4-8:30 9-8 9-8 1-.8:30 9-8 9-8 ATTENDANTS 4.00-5.25 NO ST PAUL 12,350 5 7 5 7 5-9 1-5, 6-9 1-5,6-9 1-5,6-9 1-5,6-9 1-5,6-9 2'3 PARKS SUPV 4.00-6.50 OAKbALE 17,000 1,700 3 5 7 8 4-10 1-10 1-10 7=10 1-10 1.10 2 PROG SUPV 4.75-6.00 PLYMOUTH 50,000 7,000 17 3 7 3 6 4.9 11-9 1-8 11-9 11-9 1-8 1 PROG SUPV 5.00 RICHFIELD 37,000 2,589 11 10 7 4-9 12-8 12-6 12-8 12-8 12-6 2 REC SPEC 5.00 ROBBINSDALE 14,400 1,000 5 8 5 9 8 4-8:30 1-5,6-9 1-5,6-9 1-5,6-9 1.5,6-9 1-5,6-9 1-5:30 2 PROG SUPV 5.00-6.50 ROSEMOUNT 7,500 1,000 6 3 y 5 4:30-9 10-7 12-5 12-9 10-7 12-5 2-6 2 WH SUPV ROSEVILLE 35,000 -- 11 2 6 4-9 10-9 1_q 1-9 10-9 1-9 2'3 ..DIRECTOR 4.25-5.00 ST LOUIS PARK 43,000 2,213 15 8 7 10 3:45-9 10-9 1-9 10-9 10-9 1-9 2-3 PROG DIR 4.00-4.50 ST PAUL 270,000 30,000 32 8 32 9 162 4-8 10-8 1-8 10-8 10-8 1-8 10-8 ATTENDANTS 4.50 SHAKOPEE 12,000 1,757 5 29 32 2-10 9-10 2 ATTENDANTS 4.76-5.51 SHOREVIEW 25,000 4,500 7 5 7 3 0 1-4:30,6-9 '1-4:30 1-4:30,6-9 1-4:30,6-9 1-4:30 1-2 CTR DIR 5.25-6.75 SO ST PAUL - 20,000 2,500 6 7 7 4-9 8:45;9 1=9 10-9 8:45-9 1-9 1 + VOLUNTEERS DIR & SUPV 5.00 SPRING LAKE PK 7,000 1,000 4 6 4 10 4-9 1-5 1-5 �1'9 1-5 CLOSED 1-5 2 PROG SUPV 4.00-5.50 WESIT-ST PAUL 18,500 -- 10 y 1p 3 4 4-9 10-9 12-5:30 12-9 10-9 12-5:30 1-5 1 DIRECTOR 4.67 WOODSM'� 19,000 1,600 5 y 8 4-9 12-6 12-6 1.2,9 12-6 12-6 3 PROG SUPV 5.00 5 3 4 5-9 10-7 1=5--- 1249 10-7 1-2 PROG SUPV 4.50-4.75 1-5 2-3 PROG SUPV 4.25-5.00 1994 WARMING HOUSE SURVEY RESPONSE Forty cities responded to the survey with the largest being Minneapolis (pop. 371,000) and the smallest Spring Lake Park (7, 000) . NUMBER OF SUPERVISED RINKS WARMING HOUSES HOCKEY RINKS AND OPEN SKATING FACILITIES• Survey responses indicate that eight cities (Apple Valley, Eagan, New Brighton, Plymouth, Richfield, Rosemount, Roseville and St. Louis Park) maintain rinks for hockey or open skating without warming houses. Only four cities (Arden Hills, Eden Prairie, Fridley and Shoreview) have an equal number of hockey rinks and open skating areas. Nine cities maintain more hockey rinks than open skating areas (Anoka +5, Bloomington +2; Cottage Grove +1; Eagan +4; Hopkins/Minnetonka +4; Minneapolis +16; Plymouth +3; Richfield +1; and Shakopee +3). See Attachment 1 for listing of this information by total population. HOURS OF OPERATION Responding cities (39) indicate Monday - Friday hours during school days operate a minimum of 3 hours to a maximum of 8. Saturday operations vary from 4 hours to 13. Rinks generally open on Sunday at noon/1 p.m. with various closing times, the latest being 9 p.m. New Brighton is the only city providing a full day of Sunday skating from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. Survey results follow (the number of hours service provided): MONDAY -THURSDAY FRIDAY HOURS of CITIES HOURS of CITIES 3.0 - 4.5 13 3.0 - 4.5 12 5.0 19 5.0 17 5.25 - 8.0 7 5.25 - 8.0 10 SATURDAY SUNDAY HOURS of CITIES HOURS # of CITIES 4.0 - 7.5 9 3.5 - 7.5 22 8.0 - 10.5 13 8.0 10 11.0 - 13.0 14 8.5 - 11.0 7 The most common number of hours of operation are: Weekdays= 5 hours Saturdays= 9 hours Sundays= 8 hours (1) �� �,� � •�� rye r 1 The cities of New Hope, Richfield and Shakopee have "split" hours 1� G of supervised skating providing attendants time off of 1 to 1-1/2 hours in the 4:30 to 6 p.m. time slot. �Brooklyn Center, Cottage Grove, Maplewood and Mounds view are the only responding cities who do not provide extended skating hours during the school's traditional winter break. Only 12 cities provide skating services on holidays (Arden Hills, Blaine, Bloomington, Brooklyn Center, Burnsville, Columbia Heights, Coon Rapids, Cottage Grove, Richfield, Robbinsdale, St. Louis Park and South St. Paul). N[WER OF ATTR.N'DANTS Generally, 1-3 attendants are hired per site to share the number of hours between them. Shakopee indicated that volunteers help help out at warming houses in addition to their uasr? attendant. WHO SCHEDULES Only 9 cities allow attendants to organize their own ,cork schedule. All other responding cities have program or recreation supervisors, directors, specialists or foremen to plan work schedules. ATTENDANTS SALARY Thirty-nine (39) cities responded with starting pay ranges from $3.75 to $6.00. STARTING PAY # OF CITIES $ 3.75 - $ 4.00 7 $ 4.25 - $ 4.75 19 $ 5.00 - $ 6.00 13 PROGRAM OPENS Anoka and St. Paul open the skating season on December ?. Thirty-one responding cities open rinks between DecQ_Tiber 11-21. Six cities indicate rinks open after December 22. Rosemount determines dates dependent on weather. Richfield runs an eight week skating activity program, opening during the week prior to Christmas. PROGRAM CLOSES The majority of cities close rinks in mid-February, dependent on weather. Anoka maintains skating services for the longest period of time, December 1 through March 1 with Blaine a close second (December 15 - March 1). (2) ATTENDANTS ALLOWED TO SKATE WHxLE WORKING Nineteen cities indicate they do not allow warming house attendants to skate while on duty. All the other cities indicated a "provisional" yes. None of those 21 cities allows hockey to be played by attendants. The "provisional" responses included: to lead activities; cleaning/organizational; supervisory skating; if all patrons.are skating; if low attendance; only to patrol; 40% ice/60o building; if warming house is quiet; etc. EMPLOYEE IDENTIFICATION Currently, twenty cities are using jackets/vests/sweat shirts for attendant identification. Three cities indicated name tags only were used for ID, but several more indicated the possibility for next year. Employee identification appears to be a common problem/frustration for many cities. RINK MAINTENANCE Survey response to the question regarding maintenance follow: OF CITIES FREQUENCY Park Maintenance/Public Works: 2 Late Friday 4 Saturday only 14 Sat. & Sun. 10 Heavy snow only Attendants and Volunteers: 4 Shovels Only No Maintenance 6 CONCESSIONS Comments indicated vandalism is a problem in some communities using pop machines. Two communities give the option'of selling concessions to the attendants. Twenty-eight (28) cities responded that no concessions are sold. Results to the survey follow: # OF CITIES Pop Only 4 Pop/Candy/etc. 6 Attendants Sell 2 No Concessions 28 PROMOTIONS Cable television, community brochures and newspapers are used for promotional purposes in 10 communities. Special promotions (Knox hockey tournaments, skating lessons/parties, races/relays etc.) only are advertised in 6 cities while twenty-four (24) cities do not promote their facilities. Prepared by: Ward C. Wallin Recreation Supervisor City of St. Louis Park (3) October 1990 WARMING HOUSE SURVEY MARCH 1990 Attachment 1 TOTAL K-6 # SUPV. # WARM HOCKEY CITY '90 POP POP RINKS HOUSES RINKS MINNEAPOLIS 370,951 24,890 -- 50 33 ST PAUL 270,000 30,000 32 32 29 BLOOMINGTON 86,460 6,081 21 21 23 HOPKINS/MTKA 66,000 -- 14 14 18 BROOKLYN PARK 55,000 -- 15 15 13 PLYMOUTH 50,000 7,000 17 7 10 BURNSVILLE 49,000 4,400 13 13 16 COON RAPIDS 48,600 -- 9 9 12 EDINA 48,000 3,135 11 11 10 EAGAN 45,000 4,754 26 12 15 ST LOUIS PARK 43,000 2,213 15 8 9 EDEN PRAIRIE 43,000 3,950 7 7 7 BLAINE 38,700 3,870 7 7 4 MAPLE GROVE 38,000 -- 8 8 8 RICHFIELD 37,000 2,589 11 8 9 ROSEVILLE 35,000 -- 11 8 7 MAPLEWOOD 32,000 -- 5 5 7 FRIDLEY 30,000 -- 8 8 8 APPLE VALLEY 30,000 -- 11 5 9 BROOKLYN CENTER 30,000 5,000 9 9 6 SHOREVIEW 25,000 4,500 7 7 7 CRYSTAL 25,000 -- 10 10 9 NEW BRIGHTON 25,000 -- 8 7 6 NEW HOPE 23,000 -- 7 7 5 COTTAGE GROVE 22,000 -- 6 6 7 GOLDEN VALLEY 21,800 2,500 7 7 6 INVER GROVE HTS 21,000 -- 4 4 4 SO ST PAUL 20,000 2,500 6 6 4 COLUMBIA HEIGHTS 20,000 -- 10 10 5 WOODBURY 19,000 1,600 5 5 3 WEST ST PAUL 18,500 -- 10 10 4 ANOKA 18,000 -- 4 4 9 OAKDALE 17,000 1,700 3 3 3 ROBBINSDALE 14,400 1,000 5 5 4 MOUNDS VIEW 13,000 -- 4 4 3 NO ST PAUL 12,350 -- 5 5 7 SHAKOPEE 12,000 1,757 5 5 3 ARDEN HILLS 10,000 -- 5 5 5 ROSEMOUNT 7,500 1,000 6 3 2 SPRING LAKE PK 7,000 1,000 4 4 3 Attachment 1