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Park and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes
September 22, 2005
Meeting Called to order:
1. Roll Call:
Present: Kroeger, Kunz, Palm, Silvis, Aukee, Kunza,
Absent: Long
Staff Present: Lee, Weldon
2. Approval of minutes from the August 25, 2005 meeting – The first motion on
page three, the original note did not state who seconded the motion – Kunz.
Minutes for the May and June meeting have not been created. Commissioner
Kroeger will create the minutes from the videotapes and submit them at the
October meeting.
Motion to approve: Silvis
nd
2: Kunza
Motion passed unanimously
3. Public Input - None
4. YMCA Advisory Committee Update – The Committee met on September 6,
2005. Items discussed included:
City Hall Relocation Plan
Rooms A and B will be used by City Staff
The YMCA will use the banquette center for activities that
would have occurred in Rooms A and B
This will be on Monday, Tuesdays, & Thursdays
Temporary Part-time Help during City Hall Project
The YMCA has asked for assistance in setting up and
taking down rooms in the banquette center
2 ½ hours per day, 3 days per week
Community Center Building Security
Will be changing the locks in the Community Center
Showing of the Banquette Center to potential renters
There is a question as to “Who should be showing the
banquette center?”
The YMCA does this if they are available, or they refer
people to Canyon Grille
The Commission recommended that a list of commonly
asked question be developed so that could be handed out.
The Commission recommended that this information be
included in the Mounds View Matters.
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Call Canyon Grill for banquette information – Not the
YMCA
RecWare Update
This new “on-line” system is up and running.
How to pay? – With a credit card
Can still sign up in person.
Other Use and Maintenance Issues
Fall programming is underway.
Mini Mites Soccer has started
The Commission suggested that the YMCA look for
volunteers through the schools by giving them a list of
needs. (i.e. coaching...)
YMCA runs back ground checks on all employees –
including volunteers.
Chairman Kroeger read the tree / brush removal brochure - a brochure instructing
residents on what they should do with their brush from Wednesday night’s storm.
5. Unfinished Business:
a) Groveland Park Building Replacement. –
Staff has contacted TKDA – There are no real “extras” on this
building.
TKDA also stated that the materials are the middle of the road.
2 OPTIONS: 1.) Re-bid the project with a longer construction period
2.) Consider the Golf Course Clubhouse.
Commissioner Kunza recommended looking into creating one unisex
bathroom and presented a possible floor plan to consider.
There is double door to the mechanical room. Needed? Is there a
savings to reduce to one door?
In comparison to New Brighton’s buildings – this building does not
have a fireplace, knotty pine walls and ceiling, dividers, very nice
restrooms…
The City Council sent this issue back to the Parks and Recreation
Commission. The Parks and Recreation Commission discussed
volunteers, vocational college/tech construction options, reducing
items, reducing quality/durability of items.
Look at presenting this project differently. Present that $19,600 has
been spent. Present that in a do nothing option that there would still be
a demolition cost – these are “fixed” costs regardless of what happens.
The recommended to relocate the clubhouse to Random park was
unanimously recommended by the Commissioners at last month’s
meeting.
A motion was made to direct staff to bring this issue back to the
City Council with a summary of the options that were reviewed,
discussed, and investigated by the Commission. Also, to present
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the Commissioner’s recommendation to re-bid this project in an
effort to obtain more favorable bids. This would done by changing
the specifications to give the contractor the entire 2006
construction season to complete the project – have a December 1,
2006 substantial completion date. There would also be an
advertisement campaign to reach the smaller contractors who
typically do not bid on public contracts. The bid would also
include a bid alternate for the air conditioning unit it be installed.
Motion made by: Kunza
nd
2: Kunz
Motion passed unanimously
b) Random Park Building / Golf Course Building –
Four (4) quotes were received to move the clubhouse. They ranged
from $28,500 to $96,000
Quotes did not include tree trimming, power lines work, or
intersection help/removal.
Steve has been contacting building contractors to get cost estimates to
remove the Random Park building, construct a foundation for the golf
course building, and set up the golf course building on the Random
site. Obtaining these costs is vital to presenting a complete proposal to
the City Council.
Commissioners want the square footage of both buildings
A motion was made to direct staff to include the discussion of the
Golf Course Clubhouse and Random Park Building at the October
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3 Work Session.
Motion made by: Kroeger
nd
2: Palm
Motion passed unanimously
c) Oakwood Park Renovation Project
This was read, “The Parks Supervisor is working with the
engineering technician to have the plans overlaid onto an air photo
(including proposed field, fences, new trees, picnic tables, benches,
tot-lot…). The City Forester will also be consulted to develop a
tree-planting plan. Finally a line item cost estimate will be
developed. It is anticipated that this plan will be presented to the
Commissioners at the October Meeting.”
d) County Road 10 Corridor Improvement Program –
The Design Theme Subcommittee last met on July 20, 2005.
The City’s engineering consultant provided the City Council a
project status update at the September 6, 2005 City Work Session.
The City applied for federal safety improvement grants for three
intersections along County Road 10: County Road H, Long Lake
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Road, and Silver Lake Road. These intersections had the highest
benefit-to-cost ratio.
These were for funds related to safety improvements. The City can
add other items as they choose (such as curb and gutter at
intersections). However, other funding sources would need to be
identified. This is true with improvement for other intersections.
The City has applied for a grant for construction of a 10’ wide
bituminous trailway on the north side of County Road 10 from
County Road H to Silver Lake Road. The estimated project cost is
$625,000. If successful, grant funds ($500,00) would be allocated
in 2009/2010 -perhaps sooner under special conditions.
The Park and Recreation Commission would also be given the
charge of reviewing and overseeing and design of the trailway,
landscaping, and lighting.
There was discussion as to if the south side of County Road could
be selected.
e) Groveland Park Field – creating an athletic field in the northwest corner of
Groveland Park.
The YMCA does not have any activities that can be programmed
at this site this year. Therefore the City will be holding off on
striping it.
The Parks Supervisor will contact adjacent property owners
regarding this proposal.
f) Unfinished Business Currently On Hold:
Facility Guide Update – to remain on hold
6. New Business:
a) City Property East of Sysco –
Staff walked the site on September 19, 2005. It appears likely that
nearly this entire site is wetland. Any development of this site may
be difficult.
There were questions pertaining to the Sysco expansion proposal
A motion was made to direct staff to bring a proposal to the City
Council to award a contract to RLK to investigate the property
determine the feasibility of developing park amenities on this site.
Motion made by: Aukee
nd
2: Palm
Motion passed unanimously
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b) Golf Course Closing
With the closing of the golf course there is an opportunity to
reserve equipment to be used in parks.
A list of items that could be used in parks was made.
Discussion was mainly focused on golf cart and lights to illuminate
a ball field in Silver View Park.
Are the golf carts street legal?
Can the lights be used somewhere else?
The cost to set up the lights is estimated to be $40,000.
A motion was made to recommend to remove driving range lights
(for the lighting of S.V. ball field) with transformer from the list of
golf course item to retain for Parks and reduce the number of golf
carts from 4 to 2
Motion made by: Palm
nd
2: Kunz
Motion passed on a 4 to 1 vote
A motion was made to retain the lights and look at the potential of
using them at Silver View Park or other locations.
Motion made by: Aukee
nd
2: None
Motion fail for lack of a second
c) Trailway Program
Tabled for a future meeting
When do you go from existing trail to completed trail on the map?
d) Relocation of meetings to New Brighton City Hall - 803 Old Highway 8
This was announced
e) Meeting Times and Dates
It was requested by Commissioners Aukee to look into the
feasibility and benefit of changing all Park and Recreation
meetings to be prior to a Council meeting.
The problem was more with the urgency in which project were
conducted – case in point was the Commission did not get a chance
to review or discus the bid result for the Groveland building before
they went to Council.
Future projects will be planned with additional time to allow for
Commission review and discussion before submittal to Council.
f) Review Parks Needs Analysis
Shari Kunza transferred the Parks Needs Analysis data to a
spreadsheet
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The Park Supervisor was requested to review this and updated it –
what items have been completed?
This should be presented at the November meeting.
g) Any Other Items?
Bethlehem Baptist Church Donations – add to agenda to
identify a Commission member(s) who would volunteer to
serve on this committee.
7. Commissioner/Staff Reports:
a) Active Living Ramsey County – Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:30 to 8:00
p.m. at the New Brighton Family Service Center, 400 Tenth Street NW
This was announced
b) Spring Lake – City of Mounds View, City of Spring Lake Park, St. Paul
Water Resource Commission, RCWD, DNR, and the Spring Lake Association
will be meeting next week to discuss how to address the low water levels, and
the low dissolved oxygen content of the lake. Possibly look at the introduction
of water this fall and aeration this winter.
Commissioners requested to be email when this meeting was set.
c) Any Other Reports?
Announced that Irondale homecoming is Friday night, playing
Spring Lake Park
Chairman Kroeger read the tree / brush removal brochure - a
brochure instructing residents on what they should do with their
brush from Wednesday night’s storm.
8. Request for future agenda items/other business
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Possible Items for October 27 Agenda
Announced that the Next regular scheduled meeting will be October 27, 2005. (at New
Brighton City Hall)
Motion to adjourn: Palm
nd
2: Kunz
Motion passed unanimously
Adjourned 9:25 PM
Respectfully submitted by:
Greg Lee
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