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UNOFFICIAL MINUTES
MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE
III PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
COUNTY OF RAMSEY
STATE OF MINNESOTA
September 24 , 1987
Mounds View City Hall
Council Chambers
6 :30 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 6:37
p.m. by Chairperson Wayne Burmeister
ROLL CALL Commissioners present: Silvis and
Burmeister
Commissioners absent: Rowley,
Anderson, Starr, Daniels and Long
Councilmembers present: Hankner, Quick
and Wuori
Staff present: Director Saarion,
Administrative Asst. Linke
• Visitors:
Bob Carpenter - 2650 Lake Ct. Dr.
Bob Wagner - 2590 Mounds View Dr.
Glenda Meixell - 2458 Co. Rd. I
Randy Miller - 7409 Parkview Dr.
David & Sue Rademacher - 7421 Parkview Dr
Steve & Carole Golden - 7417 Parkview Dr.
Laurie & Ed Trettel - 7401 Parkview Dr.
Mary Mitchell - 7429 Parkview Terr.
John Larson - 2568 Mounds View Dr.
Jim Smith - 7427 Parkview Terr.
AGENDA ADDITIONS NONE
CHAIRPERSON ' S REPORT Chairperson Burmeister had no report
other than to state that clue to a lack of
a quorum, the meeting would not be
considered an official commission meeting
but he would be happy to listen to the
concerns of the residents in attendance.
COUNCILMEMBER'S REPORT NONE
RESIDENTS COMMENTS FROM
THE FLOOR Bob Carpenter, President of the Silver
• View Woods Homeowners Association asked
if the pond at Silver View Park was
scheduled to be treated. Councilmember
Hankner stated that funds for cleaning
the pond had not been allocated.
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She added that the fertilizers from the
surrounding homes had exacerbated the
algae and weed problem in the pond.
• Steve Golden asked what type of fertilizer
is recommended for the lawns abutting the
pond. Commissioner Silvis suggested a
fertilizer not containing phospherous.
Ed Trettel asked if the City was
considering an ordinance controlling the
use of fertilizers similar to that in
Shoreview. Commissioner Silvis responded
that the Commission had discussed it in
the past but it had not gone any further.
Councilmember Hankner stated that when
the development was initiated, the area
was intended as a natural wetlands and not
intended to be a clean pond. Steve
Golden asked about the cost to install
aerators in the pond. Councilmember_
Hankner responded that the approximate
cost would be $30 ,000. Mr. Golden
asked about funding for cleaning the
pond. Councilmember Hankner stated
that there are some funds available in
the Storm Water. Management fund but
they are limited and that at this time
the City is at its levy limit.
• Several residents requested further
information on wetlands and storm water
management. Councilmember Hankner
explained the storm sewer study,
wetlands ordinance and storm water
management. When asked about
maintenance funds, both Councilmember
Hankner and Quick responded that a park
referendum had been initiated which
would have provided a greater level of
park maintenance, but it was defeated.
David Rademacher was concerned with
thin ice during the winter months in
the NW edge of the pond and asked that
a sign be put up indicating "Thin Ice" .
Mary Saarion replied that "No Skating"
signs had been posted on several '
occasions but were always missing soon
after.
Steve Golden asked if it was permitted
to put out wood duck houses. Director
Saarion stated that the Commission
should be consulted before anything is
placed on park property.
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Bob Carpenter asked about the progress
in controlling the muskrats around the
pond. Director Saarion stated that she
had contacted the DNR and they had
• confirmed that the muskrats were indeed
causing damage to the banks at Silver
• View Park. The DNR also stated that
the muskrats carry two diseases that
are harmful to pets. Because of the
high cost of trappers, the Commission
g PP
decided to wait until autumn hunting
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season to have the animal population
thinned. Staff had contacted a
licensed trapper and the muskrats will
be trapped for pelts beginning in
October. Residents once again expressed
concern about the preservation of the
wildlife and reiterated their concern
about a path constructed on the park
land abutting their property.
Carole Golden stated that she had a map
showing that a path would not beP laced
around the entire pond. Councilmember
Hankner stated that the original
development maps did show a pathway
around the entire pond. Director
Saarion explained that the map that
Mrs. Golden had was a conceptual park
• plan map and that it was intended to be
put into effect if the referendum had
passed.
Mrs. Golden asked why the map was used.
Staff stated that she had talked to
Mary Anderson Homes Sales Dept. and
they acknowledged the use of the
concept map. Mr. Golden stated that
he had purchased his property on the
information provided by the builder.
He asked why a path could be installed
when funds were not available for
maintenance. Chairperson Burmeister
responded that the Commission has an
obligation to consider the concerns of
the entire City. Carole Golden stated
that the public does not walk on the
existing path because it is poorly
maintained. She added that asphalt
would be fine.
Director Saarion stated that because
Phase II of %Silver View was not funded,
an asphalt pathway was not feasible.
Wood chips are used as park trails
• throughout the United States. Wood
chips make a natural looking path but
are not intended for bikes and
strollers. Carol Golden asked if the
City would inform the citizens of the
proper footwear for walking on the
path.
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Resident John Larson stated that lie
would like to see the pathway completed
around the entire pond as soon as
possible.
111 ' When asked about the lack of access to
the path from the street, Chairperson
Burmeister responded that the
contractor was unwilling to provide
additional access.
Steve Golden asked if the City would be
willing to sell the property to the
homeowners. Chairperson Burmeister
said no. Commissioner Silvis stated
that it was the City 's contention to
have the responsibility for the land
surrounding the pond.
Director Saarion reviewed the process
used for developing the policy for the
use of park property abutting
residential property. She also stated
that Forester. Wriskey had contacted
individuals regarding plantings along
the park property behind the homes.
Glenda hleixell stated that she enjoyed
walking in Silver View Park and because
the path does not continue around the
• pond, she was not aware that it was
park property. Even after she became
aware of the ownership, she walked very
close to the pond in order to avoid
intruding on private property.
Carole Golden suggested that plantings
be put in before any work on a path is
done. Director Saarion agreed that
that would be a good idea.
Steve Golden stated that misrepresent-
ation was made by someone concerning
the park development. Councilrnember
Hankner read the minutes approving
Phase I development of Silver View
Park. She added that the sketches and
minutes indicate a pathway around the
entire pond.
Residents expressed concerns about
standing water, drainage, maintenance
and costs of a pathway. Director
Saarion stated that the Park and Rec.
Department is also concerned about
these items and that an engineer would
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She added that the path construction
costs would be minimal because most of
it would be in-kind costs.
• ' Councilmember Hankner indicated
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that the final decision would be made
by the City Council.
Residents questioned why the softball
fields were installed and not the
bridge during the original development
of the park. Councilmember Quick
responded that the softball fields were
in the Phase I development plan and the
bridge was not. Councilmember Hankner
suggested that the residents get grass
roots support for their issue and
perhaps consider the formation of a
neighborhood park foundation similar to
the Groveland Park Foundation.
Carole Golden invited councilmembers,
neighbors, commissioners and Director
Saarion to her house on Wednesday
September 30 at 6: 30 p.m. to discuss
the pathway issue further. Concern was
raised regarding the clearing of trees
by Mary Anderson Construction Co.
Staff said she would write a letter to
• the company requesting that they cease
the removal of trees from City
property.
OLD BUSINESS Director Saarion stated that the Mounds
View Community Theater ran a deficit
exceeding $1 , 000 with some bills yet
outstanding. She added that there were
several conflicts this year and that
Nick Temali , Don Pauley and herself
would be meeting with the Mounds View
Community Theater Board on October
17 to discuss possible solutions.
A goal of a joint agreement between
the School District and the Community
Theater will be pursued.
Staff informed the Commission of an
Eagle Scout project taking place at
Greenfield Park. Mike Brandl will
construct a total of eight horseshoe
pits in two areas of Greenfield Park.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 8: 58 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mar Saarion, Director
Parks, Recreation and Forestry
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