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Park and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes
July 28, 2005
Meeting Called to order:
1. Roll Call:
Present: Kroeger, Kunz, Palm, Silvis, Long, Aukee
Absent: Kunza,
Staff Present: Lee, Dazenski, McIntyre, Weldon
2. Approval of minutes from the June 23, 2005 meeting – Minutes were not
available
3. Unfinished Business:
a) Greenfield Park Play Equipment -
Opening ceremony was held at 5:30pm this evening.
A dedication plaque was created. It will be mounted in the near future.
Greenfield Park is not listed on the City’s web site. The
Commissioners requested that this park and associated information be
added.
b) Facility Guide Update –
With the recent decision of the City Council not to go forward with the
Groveland Park building replacement as proposed, the Commissioners
are recommending to delay the printing of the Facility Guide until
there is more information pertaining to the Groveland Building.
Also, with the recent approval of the Medtronic proposal to develop
the golf course property and associated issues pertaining to the sale of
the property and possible petition to put the sale of the property to a
city-wide vote, the Commissioners wanted to look at delaying the
printing to late fall of this year.
c) YMCA Committee Update –
At the last YMCA Committee meeting, the committee discussed issues
associated with City Hall relocating to the Community Center during
the City Hall Rehabilitation Project.
There may be possible impacts to Room A and D, as well as possible
impacts to part of the banquette center.
The City Council will be reviewing the City’s fee structure for room
and park building rental at the next City Council Work Session –
August 1, 2005.
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d) Oakwood Park Renovation Project –
Parks Supervisor Dazenski is currently designing the field.
There needs to be elevation corrections to create the field.
City crews could do the elevation corrections this fall with the extra
dirt from several City projects.
The City Forester did not think that transplanting existing trees would
work well. He recommends that new trees be planted at selected
locations. The existing cottonwoods would remain in place.
The existing playground would need to be removed. It currently is in
very poor shape. The plan would be to replace the existing playground
with a modest “tot-lot”
A plan would need to be submitted to the City Council.
The plan would include a fence along Hillview Road and a berm or
smaller fence along Quincy Street. There is also a pathway planned
along this segment of Quincy. The Parks Supervisor recommends that
only a small fence be installed along Quincy Street.
Then next steps are as follows:
1.) Develop a layout for the plan.
2.) Develop a cost estimate for the individual items in the plan.
3.) Conduct an open house for the neighborhood to get their input.
4.) Bring the proposal to the City Council with the Commissioners
recommendation and neighborhood input.
The Parks Supervisor will work on drawing up the plan for the next
meeting. He will work with the engineering technician to have the
plans overlaid onto an air photo (including proposed field, fences, new
trees, picnic tables, benches, tot-lot…). He will consult the City
Forester to develop a tree-planting plan. He will also develop a line
item cost estimate.
A motion was made to direct staff to develop the aforementioned
plan
Motion made by: Palm
nd
2: Aukee
Motion passed unanimously
e) County Road 10 Corridor Improvement Program – Design Theme
Subcommittee Update –
A meeting was held on July 20, 2005.
The architectural / engineering firm gave some ideas for eye catching
features along the corridor. These included water features, nature
forms, landscaping, etc.
The subcommittee discussed the intersections of County Road 10 and
County Road H2 and Silver Lake Road. They discussed the possibility
of adding curb and gutter to these intersections.
The subcommittee will meet again in August or September.
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It is anticipate that information will be brought forward to the City
Council in the next few months.
f) Groveland Park Building Replacement. –
On Monday July 25, 2005 the City Council reviewed a resolution to
award a construction for the Groveland Park Building Replacement
project.
The bids received were higher than the engineers estimate.
The City Council rejected the bids and asked the Parks, Recreation,
and Forestry Commission to look at alternatives – the masonry
construction was too expensive and we should look at other options.
The apparent low bidder, Unicorp Incorporated, submitted a line item
list they used to develop their bid.
The Public Works crews could do demolition if necessary.
There was a question at to how the temperature was controlled within
a building such as Hillview.
Need to look at what items are needed.
Is a bathroom needed? Lambert does not have a bathroom. But it is
also not being used to any great extent.
If the Commission is looking at shrinking / eliminating amenities,
they must also look at the impact of the usefulness of the building.
Discussion of masonry construction versus “stick construction”.
This is a public building – not private. Because of this there are
additional requirements i.e. bathrooms that need to be Americans with
Disabilities Act (ADA) compliant – need more floor space.
Do you need two bathrooms – look at the possibility of one bathroom.
Would TKDA need to start over with plans and specs with a stick
building? Answer: No. There are many shared design / construction
features of the two. How much re-work of the plans is needed to
develop a stick design is uncertain at this time.
Other options - Prefab construction
Construction options: Volunteers – can this be done legally? College
and/ or trade schools. What are the legal issues? There was no one
present from the neighborhood at the public hearing – it might be
difficult to get volunteers.
Ask TKDA “What would it cost for a stick structure”?
Steve Dazenski to get cost estimate for a stick structure versus a
masonry structure.
What was the cost of the clubhouse when it was constructed?
A motion was made to direct staff to check with the City attorney
to determine the legal issue with having a high school / college /
trade school construct a stick building.
Motion made by: Aukee
nd
2: Palm
Motion passed unanimously
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A motion was made to direct staff to contact local schools and
colleges if the City attorney says the legal risks are OK. – If the
risks are over and above the risk of a private contractor – this
would not be OK.
Motion made by: Palm
nd
2: Silvis
Motion passed unanimously
A motion was made to direct staff to develop an estimated twenty-
five (25) year maintenance cost of a masonry building and a
“stick” constructed building.
Motion made by: Aukee
nd
2: Kunz
Motion passed unanimously
A motion was made to direct staff to ask TKDA “What would it
cost for a stick structure”? and report back to the Commissioners.
Motion made by: Kroeger
nd
2: Kunz
Motion passed unanimously
The Chairperson wanted to look at prioritizing the features in the
Groveland Building proposal as an exercise to reduce costs.
Does the building need to have heat and a bathroom? Unanimous Yes.
Maintain the same floor space? Unanimous Yes.
Ask Unicorp Incorporated and the other bidder is the schedule for
completion of the building was a factor in developing their bid. If the
bids were set up to give the contractor an entire season to complete the
project, could we anticipate getting better bids?
4. New Business:
a) Groveland Park Field
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Keep as new business for the August 25 meeting.
b) Trailway Program
th
Keep as new business for the August 25 meeting.
c) Any other items?
None
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5. Commissioner/Staff Reports:
a) Park Dedication fund – revenue report
Good information to have. Should be reviewed annually.
b) Letter from Dana Mandoza –
Former Commissioner returning from Ohio attended a gathering at Silver
View and sent a letter commenting on the positive changes.
c) Any Other Reports?
None
6. Request for future agenda items/other business
th
Possible Items for August 25 Agenda
Review Needs Analysis
Announced that the Next regular scheduled meeting will be August 25, 2005.
Motion to adjourn: Palm
nd
2: Long
Motion passed unanimously
Respectfully submitted by:
Greg Lee
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