HomeMy WebLinkAboutDisc Golf info - Greenfield Oakwood Park feasability study primer Hi Greg, should we place this in the packet for the commissioners?
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From: Michael Snelson [mailto:discindude@comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 2:39 PM
To: Steve Dazenski
Subject: Greenfield / Oakwood Park feasability study primer
Mr. Dazenski
Thank you for the opportunity to work with the City of Mounds View. I
have visited Greenfield Park and have determined that it could sustain a
disc golf course on its northern, central and eastern portions of the
park. I believe that with some creative design work we could install up
to eighteen baskets without impacting the neighbors that back up to park
land, and you would gain a park amenity that draws people from all over
to your community to play.
The area immediately east of the ball field, all the way to half way
across the park on the south of the creek, is unusable due to
considerable wet land. The strip of park land between the homes along
Hillview Road and Lois Drive is also not desirable because it is too
close to the neighbors, and I feel that errant throws would encroach on
them. The remaining park land is reasonably dry, wooded with occasional
openings, with a little elevation change along the north side, a
confluence of a couple of creeks, and would make a good site for a disc
golf course.
I envision a course that begins from the southeast, shooting northward a
couple of holes and then there would be a small walk to the next tee due
to the narrow property between neighbors. The holes then would continue
north, then west over to the creek along Jackson, then south, east
again, and finishing back to the south end of the park on Quincy and
Jackson. Distances would vary from 150-500’, and would incorporate much
of the water as hazardous areas to shoot over. There is a good
possibility that we can make the course in to a double-loop that gives
your players the option at some point to play a nine-hole OR an
eighteen-hole layout. By offering this option we can increase the daily
course traffic by adding the alternative lunchtime players or others
that who do not have time to play the full eighteen.
My recommendation is for a basket with a 24-chain configuration. This
gives the disc golfer a better catching capability with less
“blow-through”, and therefore a better disc golf experience. The baskets
will be galvanized for durability, (the Innova DisCatcher is a stainless
and galvanized combination). I am suggesting a direct pipe-to-concrete
installation process (theft deterrent ), since there will be little room
alternate pin positions. There are three manufacturers that I would
recommend for Greenfield Park. Both Disc Golf Association
(www.discgolfassoc.com) and Discraft (www.discraft.com) make a 100 %
galvanized basket. The Innova DisCatcher (www.innovadiscgolf.com) has a
powder-coated stainless steel head assembly with galvanized post and
basket. (For removable sleeve/collar assemblies, add $35 each basket to
the prices).
The DGA prices are posted on their web site for their pole holes. I
recommend the Mach V ‘No Frills’ basket. DGA’s pricing on 18 baskets is
$5670.00 ($315 each). Their Mach III is the most popular basket, priced
at $6786.00 for 18 of the finest basket available, ($377.00 each).
Discraft’s Chainstar basket price is $6354.00 ($353 each), for 18
baskets. Innova has a new chain configuration on their DisCatcher which
works very well. Their basket is probably the sturdiest basket of the
three. The top head assembly is typically yellow, but other colors and
custom designs are available. Visibility is one key advantage of this
basket. Basket choices should be determined by the design, and once the
final design is complete I will be able to narrow down the best basket
for the application. We are able to provide samples of the various
baskets, and the different features will be pointed out so that you
understand why a specific basket is being recommended. All these prices
do not reflect additional freight.
Signage is also highly recommended. Signage at each tee pad gives the
golfer direction, distance and other information necessary to plan the
throw. Tee signs are available from Innova ($35-152), the DGA ($85.00),
or any local sign vendor. Placement for the tee sign should be marked
off to the side of the tee pad and out of the way. I will supply basic
signage information as part of the design process. Additional sign
artwork can also be arranged. It is also recommended to have a course
map at the beginning, typically on a kiosk set to the side of hole #1.
Tee pads can be simple or extravagant. Hard surface tee pads of textured
cement or asphalt are preferred. The preferred size is 4 ft wide by at
least 12 ft long. Maximum size is 6 ft wide by 15 ft long with the back
end flaring out to 9 feet wide. The front edge of tee areas must be
indicated by the leading edge of the cement, asphalt, or by a tee board
buried flush in the ground with a crushed rock area behind it in a
rectangle shape. The choice of materials is up to you to decide. Asphalt
or Class 5 aggregate rock will work OK if it is necessary to keep costs
down. Tee pad sizes will be determined by the length of the specific
holes. (Longer hole = longer tee area).
Fairway Flyerz is happy to place your basket order for you. The benefits
for the city to utilize Fairway are two-fold. You have our assurance
that only the correct products will be ordered for your application and
future needs will match the existing units, and lead times may be
reduced due to Fairway Flyerz’ buying power and experience with the
vendors. Installation direction is also offered at no charge if you
purchase baskets through Fairway Flyerz. If requested, Fairway Flyerz
can install the baskets, signage and tee pads, and clear the fairways.
Let me know and I will formulate a quote for installation.
Last but certainly not least is the design and on-site course marking.
The design fee will be $900.00 for a nine-hole design, and an additional
$600.00, (totaling $1500), for a complete 18-hole design. You will
receive a comprehensive layout that accentuates the features in your
park. It will adhere to stringent length and difficulty standards while
retaining safety issues, (both personal and environmental) so it can be
played and enjoyed for many years. The course will be marked for
installation and lengths will be verified after the installation for
submission to the Professional Disc Golf Association. You will be kept
informed on the progress and will be requested to walk the course and
approve the final design. Let me know if you have any questions or wish
to place an order. Thank you for making Disc Golf part of Mounds View’s
recreational offerings. I am certain that you will be pleased with the
feedback from your new course.
Sincerely,
Michael Snelson
Qualified Course Designer
Fairway Flyerz Discs, Inc
p.s. I am including a copy of an article from the NRPA magazine, and
here is a link to the PDGA statistics- http://www.pdga.com/information.php
Discraft’s Chainstar basket price is $6354.00 ($353 each), for 18 baskets. Innova has a new chain configuration on their
DisCatcher which works very well. Their basket is probably the sturdiest basket of the three. The top head assembly is
typically yellow, but other colors and custom designs are available. Visibility is one key advantage of this basket. Basket
choices should be determined by the design, and once the final design is complete I will be able to narrow down the best
basket for the application. We are able to provide samples of the various baskets, and the different features will be
pointed out so that you understand why a specific basket is being recommended. All these prices do not reflect
additional freight.
Signage is also highly recommended. Signage at each tee pad gives the golfer direction, distance and other information
necessary to plan the throw. Tee signs are available from Innova ($35-152), the DGA ($85.00), or any local sign vendor.
Placement for the tee sign should be marked off to the side of the tee pad and out of the way. I will supply basic signage
information as part of the design process. Additional sign artwork can also be arranged. It is also recommended to have
a course map at the beginning, typically on a kiosk set to the side of hole #1.
Tee pads can be simple or extravagant. Hard surface tee pads of textured cement or asphalt are preferred. The
preferred size is 4 ft wide by at least 12 ft long. Maximum size is 6 ft wide by 15 ft long with the back end flaring out to 9
feet wide. The front edge of tee areas must be indicated by the leading edge of the cement, asphalt, or by a tee board
buried flush in the ground with a crushed rock area behind it in a rectangle shape. The choice of materials is up to you to
decide. Asphalt or Class 5 aggregate rock will work OK if it is necessary to keep costs down. Tee pad sizes will be
determined by the length of the specific holes. (Longer hole = longer tee area).
Fairway Flyerz is happy to place your basket order for you. The benefits for the city to utilize Fairway are two-fold. You
have our assurance that only the correct products will be ordered for your application and future needs will match the
existing units, and lead times may be reduced due to Fairway Flyerz’ buying power and experience with the vendors.
Installation direction is also offered at no charge if you purchase baskets through Fairway Flyerz. If requested, Fairway
Flyerz can install the baskets, signage and tee pads, and clear the fairways.
Let me know and I will formulate a quote for installation.
Last but certainly not least is the design and on-site course marking.
The design fee will be $900.00 for a nine-hole design, and an additional $600.00, (totaling $1500), for a complete 18-
hole design. You will receive a comprehensive layout that accentuates the features in your park. It will adhere to
stringent length and difficulty standards while retaining safety issues, (both personal and environmental) so it can be
played and enjoyed for many years. The course will be marked for installation and lengths will be verified after the
installation for submission to the Professional Disc Golf Association. You will be kept informed on the progress and will
be requested to walk the course and approve the final design. Let me know if you have any questions or wish to place an
order. Thank you for making Disc Golf part of Mounds View’s recreational offerings. I am certain that you will be pleased
with the feedback from your new course.
Sincerely,
Michael Snelson
Qualified Course Designer
Fairway Flyerz Discs, Inc
p.s. I am including a copy of an article from the NRPA magazine, and here is a link to the PDGA statistics-
http://www.pdga.com/information.php
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