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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 1990/01/22Dam ~. • PROCEEDINGS OF T~iE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA 4 Regular Meeting January 22, 1990 Mounds View City Hall 2401 Hwy. 10, Mounds View, MN 55112 ----------------------------------- The Mounds iew City Council was called to order by Mayor Hankn r at 7:04 PM on Monday, ~?anuary 22, 1990. The Pledge cif Allegiance was said. MEMBERS PRE: Paone, Wuor NT: Councilr~~erabers Quick, Blanchard, and Tiayor Han~~ner. ALSO PRESENT': City Attorney Barney, Clerk/Admini- strator Pau1,y, Public Works Director Minetor and City Planner Hren. Mayor Hankne announced that due to the large turn- out of resid nts for a single issue, the order of the agenda w uld be changed, to take residents comments at his time. Mayor Hankne reported the Council held an informa- tional meeti g with MnDOT on January 8, at City Hall to advise th' residents of plans for construction of Highway 610 nd reconstruction of County Road J. Many questions have been raised since that time by residents of '.that area, and a survey was quickly put together by t e Council and distributed over the weekend. MnDOT and ele ted officials had been contacted earlier in the day to attend the meeting but were unable to due to the sh rt notice, so they will be given video tapes of the eeting and will be invited to a later meeting. Staff has quickly researched City records and found resolutions f om 1977, 1979 and 1980 expressing concerns abou' traffic, but nothing giving explicit. approval of t e project has been found. The Commissioner f Transportation gave formal approval in 1986 at the 'time of acceptance of the EIS. Staff is researching, time constraints. 1. Call to order 2. Pledge of Allegiance 3. Roll Call 4. Residents Requests and Comments from the Floor M~o`unds View. City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meeting Page Two . This is not project loc ing three o State depar tional meet two weeks a cation proc Council nee people are, hood. Julie Trude lot of conc used to wor live with. about what could have past ten ye culated was planned. C children, i ments due t buses. She of the resi been told b was planned • to the City a City project, but rather is a MnDOT ted primarily in Blaine, but also involy- her cities, two county boards, MnDOT and ments. The City has hosted two informa- ngs, one in February 1986 and the other o, and Mayor Hankner reviewed the notifi- ss that was followed. At this point the s to know where the majority of the and not put neighborhood against neighbor- 8391 Knollwood Drive, stated there is a rn, and the City government needs to be something out the people are happy to She stated not many people have known s planned, and she questioned how people een in an information vacuum for the rs. The purpose of the petition cir- to inform the neighborhood of what was ncerns are with safety, with small creased traffic flow, additional assess- road erosion, and possible rerouting of asked the Council to listen to the concerns ents and act. She also stated she had the previous City planner that nothing for County Road J. She had been referred Planner by her realtor. Stan Hagen, 8439 Knollwood Drive, stated he does not believe thi plan is a workable plan and he would like anothe public hearing to present the case of why the pla wouldn't work. Mayor Hankner explained MnDOT is holding informa- tional meetings and they are past the first step. Mr. Hagen st ted the goal is to get a public hea~~ng_ahd go beyond an informational meeting. He is willing to attend an informational meeting. first but feels a public hearing would show the Council the need to look at t is further. Mayor Hankne mational m2e difficult to schedules ne to have at 1 Tom Field 84~ everything p why MnDOT is • do not want r explained a public hearing and infor- ing are very similar. It will be set a future date at this time as d to be coordinated, and it is hoped ast one months notice. 9 Knollwood Drive, stated he supports ople have said so far and he questioned even involved, if the people of Knollwood his. Mounds View City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meeting Page Three • Public Work is a highwa question of they could or a cul de to $400,000 at where th cost is ass County's in look like a currently o go through Knollwood a alignment, where the s Director Minetor explained the project department project. In addressing the what could be done by the City, he noted ave input on signage, rerouting, barriers, sac, at a cost of anywhere from $100,000 to the City, and they would need to look money would come from. Historically, the ssed to the benefited property. The olvement is in what County Road J will the end. The State is doing the work the overall project, so everything must hem. He pointed out County Road J up to d just past it would stay on the same ut the four lanes would go to apparoximately oulders are now. Bonnie Tell y, 8430 Spring lake Road, stated she bought her ome in 1989 and did research and home- work, and s e is not against the change, but does not want he taxes to go up. Mark Dugess 8372 Knollwood Drive, stated he bought his home in 1986 and did his homework then, and at that time t e entrance was planned for Red Oak Drive, as h was told by his realtor. • Clerk/Admin~.strator Pauley explained the EIS was done in February 1986. Mr. Dugess questioned why only two accesses were planned ont County Road J. Mr. Minetor explained MnDOT had several meetings with people in the City in the early '80s, and it was request d at that time that there not be any access on a y through street between existing 10 and County oad J, and that is what MnDOT based their devel pment of plans on. Mr. Dugess uestioned why a service road wasn't planned, to give all the streets access. Mr.Minetor tated MnDOT is against anything that would delay the project. Jim Sikorsk', 8340 Sunnyside, stated this plan would move he traffic off Sunnyside, and they need to decide h w to direct the traffic. He pointed out speed b mps would discourage traffic, and it would go mo e toward County Road I. • Richard Sha , 8381 Knollwood Drive, stated he had lived there for four ears and was told b his Y Y realtor tha it was not a through street. He stated he i not against access to County Road J, but is agai~hst the other eight blocks being funneled Mounds View~~City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meelting ______________Page Four down his sheet . Pat Knovak,'8371 Knollwood Drive, stated he had lived there since 1976 and he did not get excited when all the hearing on 610 and County Road J took place, as he was told the access was Red Oak Drive. He stated he does not want to be a feeder street for all the traffic ont County Road J, and recommended a service road be pla ed to serve as a feeder. Jerry Linke 2319 Knollwood Drive, stated he had attended me tings in mid to late '70s and reviewed the history of what had transpired for the planned alignment f~om that time. He noted MnDOT is planning to raise th roadway also. Russell Pah reviewed the history of the project also and th various plans that have been presented and how the have changed. He stated people do not pay attenti n to what is happening until it gets into their ~wn yard, and he added people should think about how many other peoples homes they drive by each day Mr. Hogen sated he did not believe this plan would • work and showed on the map where he felt the problems were, with the biggest problem being Ardan Avenue. Cindy Burdick, 8339 Knollwood Drive, stated she is concerned with the existing speeding problem on Knollwood and she would like a traffic count done on Knollwood, so a comparison could be done to what is expected. Mr. Minetor replied a traffic count will be done again this year. Ms. Burdick stated the plans made in the '70s are mistakes the Council's predecessors made, and times have changed and the Council needs to look at changes now, and the residents need the Council's help to get the State to alter their plans. Mayor Hankner explained the survey results will give the Council a better idea of where everyone is. She noted that even living on a dead end street presents problems with how people drive, and signs do not always work, and people need to develop a sense of respect for one another. Jim Jorsen, of Knollwood Drive, stated he has lived . there since 1976 and did not know what was planned until this past week,and he feels it is not too late to do something, and they do not need to be slaves to technology, nor do they need all that traffic on their street. Mounds View City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meeting Page Five -------------------------------------------------------------------------- • Terry O'Keefe, 8261 Knollwood Drive, questioned who picked Knollwood, as Groveland, which is one block over, is much wider. Mayor Hankner stated they would have to refer that back to MnDOT and get their historical perspective. Bill Frits, 8072 Long Lake Road, stated he was con- cerned with cutting off emergency vehicles from the north, but if J were to go under the bridge, they could still allow all streets access. John Johnson, 8480 Knollwood Drive, stated the majority of the residents have not lived there for many years, and did not do their homework. He ques- tioned where the people from.Ardan Avenue .and Green- wood are, as they should be concerned also. Mayor Hankner stated they hope to still hear back from them, as over 500 surveys were distributed yesterday. Jim Nelson, 8360 Knollwood Drive, stated he has lived there for 13 years and feels this was a carefully guarded secret, and he would favor making • a service road and tying the other roads into it. He questioned whether it is required that Knollwood be the access, as he is concerned with safety. Mr. Minetor replied it is not required, but the State designed it according to the previous Council request. Mayor Hankner questioned how the council can be sure the people become informed. Mr. Nelson stated individual letters should have been sent out. Mayor Hankner noted in polling residents, no one had received a map from MnDOT. Ms. Trude stated the MnDOT notice was not clear, and suggested there may be legal problems with the notices. She also noted no map was enclosed. Mayor Hankner noted the notice for the next meeting would be included in the Focus, New Brighton Bulletin, City newsletter, on the message board in front of City Hall, post card mailing, door to door notices, and on cable tv. • Mr. Pahl again reviewed the history of this project and what progress means. Mounds View City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meeting Page Six -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mayor Hankner stated the project was put together by MnDOT many years ago, and the Mounds View City Council passed resolutions in 1977, 1978 and 1980. The plan was adopted in December 1986 after filing of the EIS, by the Commissioner of Transportation, and she reviewed what the City is allowed to approve or disapprove. She noted MnDOT is research- ing exactly what has taken place and what has been approved. Clerk/Administrator Pauley noted Staff has not found any resolution of approval, and rather only four items the Council asked be addressed specifically. Mr. Hagen stated they should go back and look at the original plan from MnDOT. Mr. Shay stated he does not feel MnDOT does a good job of informing people, as they only notify those who will be directly impacted. David Hanson, 8310 Eastwood, stated there is currently a major feed onto County Road J and he does not feel moving traffic to Knollwood is the solution, and they need at least one more feeded onto J. He also • questioned how traffic will be impacted on old 10 after completion. Mr. Minetor stated MnDOT expects to see a significant decrease on old 10 after completion, but due to con- tinuing development, traffic is expected to build back up. Clerk/Administrator Pauley reviewed anticipated statistics of vehicle trips per day. They are pre- sently at 33,000 per day, are anticipated to be 22,000 per day at time of completion of construction and up to 40,000 per day by the end of the decade. Terry Bradley, no address given, questioned if an elevation map was available. Mayor Hankner replied one has been requested from MnDOT. Mayor Hankner stated she personally feels if any changes are to be made, they need to determine the demographics for Mounds View, and get together and figure out a solution, at the next meeting. They will then need to gather support for the proposal and visit other cities and the counties and State • to convince everyone of the position, which will take quite some time. Those involved can be put on notice, which was done today. All those political entities will have to be worked through. Mounds View City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meeting Page Seven -------------------------------------------------------------------------- . Mr. Linke reviewed his experience of trying to make a change which involved MnDOT and politicians. Don Meek, of Knollwood Drive, stated this looks more like a City project than a State project, and questioned the need to bring in so many other people. Mayor Hankner stated they must still determine the wants of all the northern sector. Clark Hall, who stated he lived on the corner of Knollwood, questioned if the Council will at some time make a clear statement of their intentions. Councilmember Quick stated Mayor Hankner had just done that, and he supports her statement. Mayor Hankner added they need to assess all the infor- mation and based on that, decide on a plan. She added they will give at least one months notice before the next meeting, and they will take the suggestions given tonight to make sure everyone is informed. The survey information should be back by that time, and will be passed out then. Mr. Linke questioned why sand and gravel trucks were out recently, as he didn't feel it was necessary. Public Works Foreman Ulrich explained they had been closely monitoring the weather report and radar, and due to uncertain weather conditions, decided it was better to do preventive sanding and salting. He noted it is much safer to do it then, and the savings of one accident will more than pay for the overtime of the crew. Mr. Minetor noted there was freezing rain and some accidents the next day. Motion/Second: Wuori/Paone to approve the consent agenda, as presented, and waive the reading of the resolutions. 5 ayes 0 nays Mayoar Hankner closed the regular meeting and opened the public hearing at 8:48 PM. 5. Approval of Consent Agenda Motion Carried 6. Public Hearing: Mounds View Business Park Phase III • Mounds View City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meeting Page Eight -------------------------------------------------------------------------- • City Planner Hren explained Phase III involves two different ..sites and she reviewed the plans for both. The Planning Commission has recommended conceptual and development stage approval of the east site only. The west site has many issues to be addressed still, and they are recommending the Council address the concept stage only. Tim Nelson, of Everest Development, reviewed what is planned, which will compliment Phases I and II. Approximately 21 acres is involved, .and will con- sist of four buildings with a total of 330,000 s.f. The rezoning would be to a PUD. They plan to develop the plans further within the next two weeks, discuss the access issues, present it to the Planning Commission on an informational basis, schedule a public informational meeting and get back on both the Planning Commission and City Council formal agendas for review and action. Helen Bailey, of County Road H2, questioned the access planned on County Road H2. Mr. Nelson reviewed the two planned accesses. They are planned for car traffic only, not truck traffic, • based upon the successful acquisition of access with Loose Ends. Ms. Bailey questioned why there couldn't be a shared access with AT&T. She stated there is a problem with semi traffic already. Mr. Nelson pointed out the road was designed for heavy traffic, but they did not plan for truck use. He requested that any problems be called in direct- ly, so they can be dealt with. He added he wasn't aware prior to this of any problems with truck traffic. He added they cannot sign County Road H2 for no trucks as it is an MSA street. He also noted the City does not want signs posted internally. Mayor Hankner closed the public hearing and reopened the regular meeting at 9:14 PM. Motion/Second: Blanchard/Quick to approve Resolu- tion No. 2592, approving the concept/development stage, Mounds View Business Park Phase III (East), Planning Case No. 287-89, and waive the reading. 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried . Motion/Second: Blanchard/Paone to table Resolution No. 2593 until there is more information on driveways and access and truck traffic. 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried Mounds View City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meeting Page Nine -------------------------------------------------------------------------- . Councilmember Blanchard noted they had run into con- cept approval problems with another project and she did not want to see it happen again. Councilmember Wuori stated the access situation is serious, and they need to address it at this time, and they also need to get the access from Woodale. Mr. Nelson noted the Planning Commission had approved it, with the access as a condition. It was clarified that the Clerk/Administrator would wait until further information is received from Everest Development that responds to the concerns expressed before putting this on the agenda again. Attorney Karney advised the first reading of the rezoning ordinance should apply for the east side only.. Motion/Second: Paone/Quick to have the first reading of Ordinance No. 484, amending the Municipal Code of Mounds View by amending Chapter 41 entitled "Specific Rezonings",with the deletion of all references to the west side, and waive the reading. • 5 ayes 0 nays Mayor Hankner reviewed the list of suggested appoint- ments to Commissions and Task Force. She recommended Len Burgers and JoAnn Colleen be reappointed to another term on the Planning Commission; Frank Silvas and Dave Long to the Parkand Rec Commission; Charlene Robertson to the Police Civil Service Commission; Paul Mielke, Muriel Brainerd and Linda Kittleson- Hansohn to the Environmental Quality Task Force; and Peg Mountin be reappointed as Chair of the Planning Commission. and Wayne Burmeister as Chair of the Park and Rec Commission. Motion/Second: Quick/Blanchard to make the appoint- ments and reappointments to the Commissions and Task Force as recommended by Mayor Hankner. 5 ayes 0 nays Mr. Ulrich reviewed the bids received for the pur- chase of two dump boxes for the park department trucks and one utility box for the sewer department . truck. Motion Carried 7. Reappointment/ Appointment of Commission and Task Force Chairs and Members Motion Carried 8. Consideration of Bids for Truck Boxes Mounds View City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meeting Page Ten -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Motion/Second: Wuori/Blanchard to award the purchase of the dump boxes to Crysteel for $4,566.00 each to be charged to 100-4360-703 and 100-4360-122, and award the purchase of the utility box to Truck Utilities for $4,880.00 to be charged to 730-4121-703. 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried Mr. Ulrich reviewed the testing done and bids received 9. Consideration for the purchase of a street sweeper. He also reviewed of Bids for how the spec was written. He noted the street sweep- Street Sweeper ings are recycled into asphalt, and he also reviewed the optional extended warranty. Motion/Second: Paone/Quick to approved the purchase with MacQueen Equipment for an Elgin Series P street sweeper, plus extended warranty option for $71,121.00 to be charged to 420-4121-703, storm water management fund, or 100-4270-703, street department capital fund if the money is transferred to that account. 5 ayes 0 nays Mr. Frits questioned the value of the extended • warranty, stating he did not feel it was needed. Attorney Karey had no report. Ms. Hren reported Mr. Bayerkohler has gone through the court process and was found guilty of violating the sign code, and was given a $100 fine, which was continued for one year. He will not have to pay the fine, if there are no other violations. Attorney Karney advised if there is another violation, he could face jail time. There will be some time allowed for removal of the existing post. Mr. Ulrich reported compliments had been received on the ice conditions at Groveland Park. Councilmember Quick had no report. • Councilmember Blanchard noted a letter had been received in the Council packets from the Edgewood Emergency Food Shelf, and she would like Staff to Motion Carried 10. Report of Attorney 11. Report of Staff Members 12. Reports of Councilmembers: Councilmember Quick Councilmember Blanchard i -- - ~. Mounds View City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meeting Page Eleven -------------------------------------------------------------------------- • look into the possibility of keeping a drop-off point at City Hall year round, not just at holiday time. Clerk/Administrator Pauley stated he was in favor of that but would need to set up a formal relationship with a food shelf, and have them come to pick up the goods. Councilmember Quick requested the matter be researched to determine if a policy is needed. Councilmember Paone had no report. Councilmember Wuori had no report. Mayor Hankner reported she had attended the charter dinner of the Edmond/Ol 1 hoff VFW Post and i t was wel 1 attended. Mayor Hankner reported she had met with the mayors of Arden Hills and Shoreview and Chair of the School Board on January 13, and they have scheduled a joint • meeting on February 22 to discuss community education needs, and update on planning for community education programs. Motion/Second: Hankner/Wuori to set a special meeting of the Council on February 22 at 7 PM at the Edgewood Community Center, to be a joint meeting between Mounds View, Arden Hi11s, Shoreview, New Brighton and the School Board. 5 ayes 0 nays Motion/Second: .Quick/Paone to approve the certifi- cate of occupancy for T.C.B.Y. (The Country's Best Yogurt), 2563-1/2 Highway 10, Mounds View Square. 5 ayes 0 nays Mr. Frits asked where the three large piles of dirt came from that are at the compost site at Ardan Avenue. Mr. Ultrich explained most of it is excavatings from the holding pond at the business park, and it was given to the City free. It is being stock piled • for future use in the City. There have been problems in the past getting fill when it was needed for City parks and other areas, and the City has had to pay for it. This will be removed from the compost site. Councilmember Paone Councilmember Wuori Mayor Hankner Motion Carried 13. Report of Clerk/ Administrator Motion Carried Mounds View City Council January 22, 1990 Regular Meeting Page Twelve -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Councilmember Quick noted that location has been used in the past, just not that much. There being no further business before the Council, 14. Adjournment Mayor Hankner adjourned the meeting at 9:57 PM. Respectfully submitted, Donald F. Pauley Clerk/Administrator • •