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CITY OF_ MOUNDS VIEW
CITY COUNCIL
~~IA~2CH 9, 1992
7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
The City Council is provided background information for agenda items zn
advance by staff and appointed comatissions, committees and boards.
Decisions are based on this information, as well as City policy and
practices, input fzom constituents and a Counci.Zmember's personal
judgement. If you have comments, questions or information regarding an
item on the agenda, please step forward to be recognized by the Mayor
during the "Residents Requests and Comments From the Floor" item on the
agenda. Please state your name and address for the retard. AZl comments
are appreciated. A copy of all printed materials relating to the agenda
item is available for public inspect.zon at the Retarding Secretary's Table.
1. CALL TO ORDER
2.' PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. ROLL CALL - Quick, Blanchard,
Rickaby, Wuori,
Linke
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: February 24, 1992
Regular Meeting
COUNCIL ACTION: A T D
5. SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS:
None
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AGENDA
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MARCH 9, 1992
6. RESIDENTS REQUESTS AND COMMENTS FROM THE FLOOR
Citizens' comments are encauraged to allow individual citizens to address
the Councsl, as a whole, on a matter of interest or concern to the
citizens. The preservation of the Citizens' Comments item on the agenda is
important in order to encourage and mainta.zn this information flow. To
preserve and protect this valuable cormaunications link, a speaker is
Zimited to three (3) minutes.
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CITIZENS: BEFORE SPEARING PLEASE GIVE YOUR FULL
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES
7. PUBLIC HEARINGS•----------------------------------------
8.
1. 7:05 P.M., Consideration of Wetland Alteration
Permits for Long Lake Road
Consideration of Resolution No. 4200 Approving
Wetland Alteration Permits fo= Long Lake Road,
Staff Report No. 92-190C
COUNCIL ACTION:
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CONSENT AGENDA•
1. Adopt Resolution No. 4197 Approving Just and Correct
Claims Against City Funds
2. Licenses for Approval
Roofinv - Ext~ires 6/30192
Hoversten Construction - New
3. Set Public Hearing Date of March 23, 1992, 7:10
p.m., to consider a Request for a Conditional Use
Permit for the Property Located at 8315 Pleasant
View Drive, Staff Report No. 92-191C
4. Set Public Hearing Date of March 23, 1992, 7:15
p.m., to consider a Request for a Conditional Use
Permit far the Property Located at 2865 Highway 10,
Staff Report No. 92-192C
5. Set Public Hearing Date of March 23, 1992, 7:20
p.m., to consider a Request for a Wetland Alteration-
Permit for the Property Located at 3009 County Road
H, Staff Report No. 92-193C
AGENDA
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6. Consideration of Resolution No. 4198 Approving
Budget Change for Advisory Commission Training,
Staff Report No. 92-'194C
7. Authorize Replacement of Unmarked Police Vehicle
with 1991 Dodge Spirit from E and G Auto Sales i.n
the Amount of $8,300.00 and Declare the 1984
Chevrolet as Surplus Property
8. Adopt Resolution No. 4199 for the Operation of
Lakeside Paxk
COUNCIL ACTION:A T D
9. COUNCIL BUSINESS:
1. Consideration of Appointment of Henry E. Ruggles
to the Planning Commission, Staff Report No. 92-195C
COUNCIL ACTION: A T D
2. Approval of Lang Lake Road Plan - Resolution No.
4204, Staff Report No. 92 -196C
COUNCIL ACTION: A T D
3. Water Tower Bid, Staff Report No. 92-199C
COUNCIL ACTION: A T D
4. Adopt Resolution No. 4202 MSA Off-Systems for Long
Lake Road, Staff Report No. 92-1980
COUNCIL ACTION: A T D
5. Adopt Resolution No. 4201-Regarding Long Lake Road
Parking Restrictions, Staff Report No. 92-197C
COUNCIL ACTION: A T D
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6. Parking Restrictions on Streets Adjacent to Robert's
Off 10, Staff Report No. 92-2000, (Information to be
provided Monday evening.)
COUNCIL ACTION: A T D
7. Parking Restrictions on County Road H-2 - Resolution
No. 4203, Staff Report No. 92-201C, (Information to
be provided Monday evening.)
COUNCIL ACTION: A T D
10. REPORTS:
1. Report of Councilmembers: Quick, Blanchard, Rickaby
Wuori, Linke
2. Report of Mayor Linke
3. Report of Administrator
4. Report of Staff
5. Report of Attorney
11. ADJOURNMENT•
NEZT COUNCIh WORK SESSION: APRIL 5 „ 1992
NE%T COUNCIL MEETING: MARCH 23, 1992
SPECIAL COIJ~TCIL MEETING -MARCH 11, 1992
6:00 P.M.
CITY SERVICES SURVEY
PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
March 9, 1992
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Hwy. 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
CALL TO ORDER
The Mounds View City Council was called to order by Mayor Linke at 7:00 p.m.
on Monday, March 9, 1992.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
+'he Pledge of Allegiance was said.
ROLL CALL
MEMBERS PRESENT•
MEMBERS ABSENT•
ALSO PRESENT:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION~SECOND•
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Councilmembers Quick, Blanchard, Wuori and
Mayor Linke.
Councilmember Rickaby joined the Council
Meeting at 7:06 p.m.
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, Ric Minetor,
Public Works Director/City Engineer
Quick/Blanchard to approve February 24, 1992
minutes as amended.
Councilmember Wuori amended page thirteen,
under "Council Business", paragraph 6, sentence 2
by deleting the last four words of the sentence
and adding since 610 was put in.
4 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
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`egular Meeting March 9, 1992
SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS:
There was no Special Order of Business scheduled for this meeting.
RESIDENTS REQUESTS AND COMMENTS FROM THE FLOOR
Bill Frits, 8072 Long Lake Road, commented that he had noticed the road
restriction signs had been put up within the last week. Mr. Frits stated
that he understood that all trucks with a limit of five tons are permitted
on the roads posted, but that trucks over 5 tons need a special permit to
travel on City roads. Mr. Frits asked the Council if all garbage trucks
were getting permits?
Mayor Linke indicated that the garbage trucks are getting permits and. the
road restrictions are being enforced. Mayor Linke further explained that
each time a truck over 5 tons enters and drives on a posted 5 ton road, the
garbage truck must obtain a permit.
Randy Jackson, 5299 O'Connell Drive, stated that he was very disturbed by an
article he read in the New Brighton Bulletin regarding things he stated
about the parking problem at Robert's Off 10. Mr. Jackson further stated
that the article made him look as though he was lying about talking to an
officer regarding Roberts. The Police Chief's comment was that the
tatements referred to were never made by an officer. Mr. Jackson stated
,hat he had a witness to what was said by the officer in question.
Roxanne Jackson, 5299 O'Connell Drive, stated that she contacted Lieutenant
Brick. Ms. Jackson stated that there may have been a lack of communication
between him and the Chief of Police. The Police Chief indicated that
perhaps what he did say was misunderstood or maybe he didn't mean to say
what he did, if in fact he did. Lieutenant Brick indicated to Ms. Jackson
that Robert's was in violation of some codes and that the issues were being
looked into and a citation may be issued in a couple of weeks. Ms. Jackson
stated that she and her husband, Randy Jackson, did not appreciate the fact
that it looked as though they were making these things up.
Brad Jahnke, 8408 Eastwood Road, asked if he could obtain a copy of the
questions that would be asked on the City Survey.
Mayor Linke explained to Mr. Jahne that the meeting to discuss the City
survey was posted on sign board and that the Council had not decided on the
questions yet. Mayor Linke further stated that the format and questions
would be discussed on the evening of the meeting, Wednesday, March 11.
Mr. Jahnke then asked if the City had bought the printer that was brought up
at the last Council meeting, what type was purchased and the cost.
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator indicated that a printer had been
urchased. Orduno also indicated that it was the printer that the Council
~ad approved which was a Hewlett-Packard IIID at a cost of approximately
X2500.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
Mayor Linke opened the public hearing to consider Wetland Alteration Permits
for Long Lake Road at 7:05 p.m.
Ric Minetor, Director of Public Works/City Engineer, stated that because of
the remodeling and mass confusion at City Hall, notices were inadvertently
not published. Minetor stated that according to the City's code, the
Council has the authority to issue wetland permits without a public hearing
if they so desire.
Minetor further stated that the Council had two options with regard to this
public hearing: 1) reschedule it for a date two weeks from tonight, or 2)
proceed with the hearing. Staff recommends rescheduling the hearing for two
weeks from tonight.
MOTION/SECOND: Quick/Blanchard to reschedule the public hearing
to consider Wetland Alteration Permits for Long Lake Road for
two weeks from tonight which would be March 23, 1992.
VOTE: 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
ONSENT AGENDA
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, read the items on the proposed Consent
Agenda.
Councilmember Quick asked that Item 7, replacement of unmarked police
vehicle, be removed from the Consent Agenda for clarification by the Glerk-
Administrator.
MOTIONf SECOND: Rickaby/Wuori to adopt the Consent Agenda
minus Item 7 regarding replacement of
unmarked police vehicle.
VOTE: 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, was asked by Councilmember Quick to
clarify Item No. 7 taken from the Consent Agenda regarding replacement of
the unmarked police vehicle. Orduno explained that the reason this item was
removed was because a fund number had not been assigned to this expenditure.
The replacement vehicle should be coded to the Forefeiture Fund.
Councilmember Quick asked Orduno to explain where the funds in this account
come from. Orduno explained that these are funds raised from the sale of
items confiscated in raids or drug busts. Orduno further stated that this
fund is used mostly for police items such as bullet proof vests, squad
~erminals and radios.
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MOTIONJSECOND: Quick/Blanchard to authorize the replacement of
an unmarked police vehicle with 1991 Dodge Spirit from E and G
Auto Sales in the Amount of $8,300 and Declare the 1984 Chevrolet
as Surplus Property
VOTE: 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
COUNCIL BUSINESS:
1. Samantha Orduno reviewed Staff Report No. 92-195C regarding the
appointment of Henry E. Ruggles to the Planning Commission.
Orduno stated that Mr. Ruggles is a resident of the City of
Mounds View. Mr. Ruggles is a former banker and bank examiner
and currently drives the senior van for the Park and Recreation
Department.
MOTION/SECOND: Quick/Rickaby to appoint Henry E. Ruggles
to the Planning Commission for a three year term ending
December 31, 1994
VOTE: 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
~. Ric Minetor, Director of Public Works/City Engineer left the
meeting at 7:17 p.m. and returned at 7:20 p.m.
While Mr. Minetor had stepped out, Samantha Orduno,
City Administrator, shared some information regarding another
City and a survey they undertook. Orduno stated that the City of
Fridley conducted a survey very similar to ours regarding what
the residents liked about the City, best services, unnecessary
services, and other general questions of this type. Fridley
did the survey through the use of in-house personnel. Over
3,000 questionnaires were sent out and the City received less than
one-third of the questionnaires back. Fridley had hired a consultant
to process the responses. The responses to the questionnaire were
returned to the consultant. The cost to the City of Fridley was $5,000
not including staff time. Orduno stated that the City Manager told her
the cost of staff time was approximately 160 staff hours. Their cost
was $5,000 for the survey and in excess of $3,000 in staff costs.
The City of Mounds View's survey will cost less than $6,000 total.
Ric Minetor, Director of Public Works, rejoined the meeting at this
time and Staff Report No. 92-1960 regarding the approval of the final
plans for reconstruction of County Road J from the City. Minetor
stated that the plans for Long Lake Road have been completed and are
consistent with the details shown in the study report previously
approved by the Council. Minetor further stated that the County would
like to have the Council formally approve the plans. A copy of the
plans are in the City Offices. Minetor asked that the Council approve
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the final plans for reconstruction of County Road J and authorize the
City Engineer/ Director of Public Works to sign said plans for the
City.
MOTION~SECOND: Wuori/Blanchard to adopt Resolution No. 4204
Approving Plans for the Reconstruction of Long Lake Road Between
County Road H and County Road J
Mayor Linke asked with regard to a time line for the start of
the project. Minetor stated May or early June as it takes
approximately 6 weeks depending upon how quickly the state aid
office processes the paperwork.
Councilmember Quick asked if there would be a sidewalk on the left
side and if Long Lake Road would be 4 lanes wide like County Road I and
County Road H2, and if this road would be typical of what is in
New Brighton.
Minetor responded that there would be a sidewalk on the left side
and the road would be 4 lanes wide like County Roads I and H and
would it be constructed typical of what the roads are in New Brighton.
. Councilmember Rickaby commented regarding adding a sidewalk and
Ramsey County wanting to turn the road back to us.
Minetor stated that Ramsey County was not going forward with the
changes that were suggested in the consolidation report.
Mayor Linke stated that before any changes can be made with regards
to roads being turned over to the City from the County, this Council
must approve them.
Councilmember Rickaby asked what the distance would be between the
sidewalk and the boulevard.
Minetor responded that there would be 6 foot boulevards between the
curb and sidewalk.
Councilmember Rickaby asked if there was a City ordinance which
prohibited bicycles from using sidewalks and who pays for the clearing
of the sidewalks.
Minetor replied that there is no ordinance which prohibits bicycles
from using sidewalks in the City and the City would be responsible
for keeping the sidewalks clear.
Councilmember Wuori asked if this was a two stage project beginning
at the south and working north.
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Councilmember Quick asked what would happen to Williams Pipeline.
Minetor responded that the entire length of the pipeline for the
project would be replaced. The pipeline would be set back from
where it is now. The County is setting up a meeting with Williams
Pipeline for next week to talk about final details.
Minetor responded that Dave Rollins, Desing Engineer, will be meeting
with him to put a traffic plan in place. The project will only take up
certain sections of the road at a time. Minetor further stated that
at that time they will also decide where the detours will be placed
with emphasis on local access to housing facing Long Lake Road.
Mayor Linke suggested that Minetor notify the school system of the
work being done.
Councilmember Wuori stated that by late May or early June school
will just about be over.
VOTE: 4 ayes 1 nay Motion Carried
Councilmember Rickaby stated the reason she voted against adoption
of this resolution was that sidewalks would increase the costs to
the City and at this time she stated they were not necessary.
Councilmember Quick stated that this item had been discussed previously
by the Council and the safety aspects of pedestrian traffic
going to and from Irondale High School more than justified the expense.
Sidewalks are safe walkways that are utilized as a means of exercise.
Long Lake Road between Mississippi Street and Silver Lake Road forms a
loop which is used constantly by adults for walking.
Councilmember Wuori also stated there are four parks along Long
Lake Road that are frequented very often by children and adults.
3. Ric Minetor, Director of Public Works, reviewed Staff Report No.
92-197C regarding the bid award for the construction of a new water
tower. Minetor stated that three bids were received. The lowest of
the three bidders was Pitt - Des Moines, Inc. in the amount of
$718,300.
Four deduct items regarding the lighting plans for the tower could be
eliminated. They are as follows: $5,300 for lighting of the column;
$4,300 for west logo lighting; $7,400 for southeast logo lighting; and
$4,300 for northeast logo lighting. Lighting costs would be
approximately $21,300. Electricity and repairs would be approximately
. $6,000 per year if they were to be installed. Council wanted these
prices to determine if they wanted to go ahead with the lighting.
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Councilmember Rickaby stated that the lighting was discussed at the
last meeting of the Environmental Quality Task Force.. The group
consensus was that the Task Force opposed this amount of electricity
being spent on lighting. This lighting goes against the priority
of conserving electricity.
Mayor Linke polled the Council and it was felt that this was too
expensive and felt the lights should just be placed at the top of
the tower and the access point.
Minetor stated that the cost without the lighting would be $697,000
with ten percent contingency for a total of $766,700 to Pit -
Des Moines, Inc.
Councilmember Rickaby stated that the Environmental Quality Task
Force suggested that we use solar lighting.
MOTION~SECOND: Quick/Blanchard to award bid to Pit Des Moines, Inc.
for the construction of a new water in an amount not to exceed $766,700
which includes ten percent contingency to be charged to account number
680-4121-705. These monies would come from the water bond fund and
tear down of the old towers.
Councilmember Quick commented that it was cheaper to tear down and put
up one new tower than to refurbish the existing two.
Ric Minetor, Director of Public Works/City Engineer, indicated that
the main problem with refurbishment of the two existing towers is the
lead paint and structure repairs need to be made at each tower.
Councilmember Quick verified that Minetor had stated at a previous
meeting that the towers would have to be completely shrouded in order
to do the repairs as paint from the towers would have to be contained
when the towers were sandblasted and the dust collected and hauled
away as hazardous waste.
Orduno stated this would be a potential liability.
Bill Frits, 8072 Long Lake Road, asked if someone else would purchase
and put up these towers or would they be scrapped out.
Minetor stated that sometimes smaller towns will purchase these towers.
What they do is take the towers into the shop and structurally repair
the towers before they put them back up. Minetor stated he had two
interested contractors contact the City.
VOTE: 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
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4. Ric Minetor, Director of Public Works, City Engineer, reviewed
Staff Report No. 92-198C, a request to use MSA Funds for the
reconstruction of Long Lake Road. Minetor stated that the Council is
required to formally request the Commissioner of Transportation to
authorize the use of Municipal State-Aid Street Funds for use on a
County-State Highway project. The total amount requested from State-
Aid funds is $696,421.90. This is used to pay for the City's share of
parking lanes, storm sewer, concrete walk, and other miscellaneous
items for which Ramsey County requires city participation.
MOTIONJSECOND: Blanchard/Rickaby to request the Commissioner
of Transportation to Approve Municipal State Aid Funds for
Reconstruction of Long Lake Road.
Councilmember Quick asked Minetor to explain what MSA funds
are.
Minetor explained that the gas tax that the taxpayers pay
is placed in three funds;~highway trust fund, county and city.
The amount the City received is decided by population and
number of miles the City has in Minnesota state aid network.
VOTE: 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
5.~ Ric Minetor, Director of Public Works/City Engineer, reviewed
Staff Report No. 92-197C regarding parking restrictions for Long
Lake Road reconstruction. Minetor stated that Long Lake Road
between County I and County Road H2 has been designed to be
four lanes. Minetor further stated that parking would have to
be posted no parking along this section. Minetor also stated that it
is a requirement of Ramsey County to have the City Council adopt a
resolution stating they are in concurrence with the parking
restrictions.
MOTION/SECOND: Quick/Wuori to adopt Resolution No.4201
requesting Ramsey County to restrict parking along a portion of
Long Lake Road
VOTE: 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
6. Ric Minetor, Director of Public Works/City Engineer, reviewed
Staff Report No. 92-20oC regarding parking restrictions oh
streets adjacent to Robert's Off 10. These streets are Edgewood,
Greenfield, O'Connell and Clearview. Minetor stated that the
residents came in with a petition at the February 24, 1992 asking
the City to prohibit parking from 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. on these
streets. Staff felt that this was an adequate amount of time to
prohibit parking. If a problem arose on O'Connell and Jeffrey Drives,
these streets could be phased in at a later time.
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Mayor Linke stated that this would allow parking on the east
side of Edgewood Drive around the Robert's property.
Mayor Linke and the Police Chief discussed County Road H2 and noted
there is not enough adequate room to park. County will post Long Lake
Road to 10 as no parking.
Mayor Linke stated that there will be no parking on Greenfield by
Mister Donut.
Sue Janssen, 2440 Clearview, stated that when the petition went around
she misunderstood what its purpose was. Ms. Janssen further stated
that at this address they have five cars in the driveway. Ms. Janssen
also stated that because of the different times these persons have to
leave the house, two cars are parked in the street. Ms. Janssen asked
if no parking or restricted parking is enforced from 10:00 p.m. to 6:00
a.m. then where can these cars be parked - on the lawn? Ms. Janssen
suggested that perhaps the City hand out to the persons in the
household stickers to display on vehicles when parked in the street.
This would indicate to the law enforcement personnel that these cars
belong to the residence.
Mayor Linke stated that this could cause an enforcement problem and
would require much more time spent checking the vehicles for stickers,
however, this item could be visited by the Council.
Sue Janssen, 2440 Clearview, stated that there are not that many cars
parked on Clearview at the present time and she has had no problems
with violence or loud persons. Ms. Janssen also stated that Robert's
brings in the right clientele. Ms. Janssen doesn't feel there is a
problem on Clearview, but there will be if they post Edgewood no
parking. Ms. Janssen stated she is opposed to the parking restrictions
on Clearview.
` Ms. Janssen further stated that there was no time stated on the letter
that she received regarding the meeting for Robert's.
Michael Janssen, 2440 Clearview, stated that he usually does not attend
Council meetings. Mr. Janssen further stated that he is in agreement
that there is a parking problem with regards to Robert's. Robert's, he
stated, does not have adequate parking as the cars are often three deep
on the road. Mr. Janssen also stated that the residents of the city
pay taxes to use the streets.. Mr. Janssen also stated that if he parks
on the front lawn or yard he will be given a ticket by the City because
this is against City ordinance. Mr. Janssen stated that knew nothing
about the parking restrictions until he received the letter in the mail
Friday and that it was very short notice for Monday evening, and he
• commented that the letter had no time indicated on it for the meeting.
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Mayor Linke, stated that these parking problems were brought up on
Monday, February 24th at the Council Meeting. Residents living close
to Robert's did come into the Work Session to discuss this item. Mayor
Linke stated that he brought up the parking restrictions for Clearview
and Jeffrey Drive as he believes if the parking restrictions are
placed on Edgewood and Greenfield the parking problem will move down to
Clearview and Jeffrey Drive.
Teresa Lexcen, 5229 Jeffrey Drive, was not alerted to the parking
restrictions being suggested for Jeffrey Drive until 3:30 p.m., Friday,
she stated she was informed by a letter in the mail that there would be
a meeting on Monday evening to discuss these restrictions.
Mayor Linke explained that Jeffrey Drive was not on the list at this
time to receive restricted parking signs.
Ms. Lexcen stated that she spoke to someone in the City Offices on
Monday and that Jeffrey Drive was on the list and had been discussed
at the meeting on Monday night. Ms.Lexcen further stated that it would
be better if the City did not post Jeffrey Drive as she talked to the
people on her street and they have a wait and see attitude to see if
the parking restrictions on Edgewood and Greenfield cause the problem
. to move to Jeffrey Drive. Ms. Lexcen further suggested that residents
could be given large cards to put in the vehicles window and to give to
friends and relatives that stated, "Residential Parking Only Permit".
Ms. Lexcen also stated that the problem is that Robert's needs an
overflow lot for parking. Ms. Lexcen further stated that the
establishment has become popular because it has good bands and draws
persons from as far away as the southern suburbs. Personally, Ms.
Lexcen stated that the signs are a bandaid to the real problem. Ms.
Lexcen believes that patrons of Roberts will park 3-4 blocks away to
listen to the bands.
Mayor Linke stated that the owner of Robert's is looking into an
auxiliary parking lot.
Teresa Lexcen, 5229 Jeffrey Drive, asked if anyone from the City had
gone into the establishment and checked the occupancy for violation of
code.
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, stated that the owner of Robert's
has been cited $100 per day for violation of code and that seating must
be removed in the establishment to be consistent with seating stated by
the City Code.
Ric Minetor, Director of Public Works/City Engineer, stated that Mr.
Waste had brought in a new site plan on Friday.
Orduno stated that the $100 per day fines had begun on Tuesday.
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Cindy Camarillo, 5299 Greenfield stated that this establishment does
not bring in nice people. A resident that lives on Edgewood Drive
found a half full bottle of Vodka and a butcher knife. Ms. Camarillo
stated these types of things are found in the neighborhood often.
Ms. Camarillo stated that people from Robert's don't care where they
park and have blocked her driveway in the past. Ms. Camarillo stated
that 8:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. would be a good span of time for a parking
restriction on these streets as in the summer the kids are still out at
8:00 p.m.
Ric Minetor, Director of Public Works/City Engineer, stated that the
signs are premade and the time can be placed on by decal. At the
meeting on March 2 the general consensus of the group was 10:00 p.m. to
6:00 a.m.
Ms. Janssen stated that with the parking restrictions, and the five
cars at their residence, when they have company there is no where for
the company to park.
Mayor Linke stated that anyone having a party or company where it will
involve street parking on restricted streets, should notify the police
department and specify the times and the address of the party.
. This should be done a couple of days ahead of time.
Ms. Camarillo stated again 8:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. would be good times
as in the summer she would like to enjoy the neighborhood. On Friday
night Greenfield was packed with cars and her driveway was blocked.
Mike Janssen stated that he would call every couple of days and let the
police department know that they will be parking on the street if
parking is restricted.
Bruce Ritter, 5240 Greenfield, stated that it appears that the bar has
more pull over residents than the residents have over the bar when it
comes to street parking. Mr. Ritter states the problem is that the
patrons of Robert's are parking on the taxpayer's streets. These
streets should be made residential parking only.
Mayor Linke stated that these are public streets and the Gity cannot
stop anyone from parking on these streets unless they are designated no
parking. The residents who brought the petition to the City were
advised that it would impact them with the no parking signs and they
were willing to accept this inconvenience.
Bruce Ritter, 5240 Greenfield, stated that cars that are left 2-3 days
in Robert's parking lot are towed away. Mayor Linke responded that it
was Robert's parking lot and there is nothing the City can do about
that problem. Mr. Ritter stated that Roberts is a good business for
the community and that it is a nice establishment, but they don't have
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enough parking. Also, Mr. Ritter commented that the patrons of Roberts
throw beer cans in people's yards and urinate on their property, as
well as constantly turn around in their driveways.
Teresa Lexcen asked if the decision on the signs would be made tonight
and, if so, will the signs be the same signs that Jeffrey Drive will
receive in the future if signs are needed.
Mayor Linke stated that the decision would be made tonight on the
parking restriction signs and that the residents on Jeffrey Drive, if
the parking problems arose, would have to come in and request parking
restrictions.
Ms. Lexcen again brought up the solution of using stickers or cards and
issuing them for parking.
Mayor Linke stated that the problem arises when no parking signs are
posted. Jeffrey Drive is not a part of this problem at this time.
Mayor Linke was not sure if what the apartment complex had decided to
do regarding the parking problem.
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, noted that the apartment complex
is going to put up signage that reads, "Residential parking only,
violators will be towed."
Daryl Madison, 5200 Jeffrey Drive asked if there could be more
parking behind Donatelle's available.
Mayor Linke indicated that Mr. Waste was looking at that option.
Paul Johnson, 5259 Greenfield, wants to put in a new driveway so
he would have to park two cars on the street. The idea of
being able to call the police and let them know there will be
cars parked on the street once the restrictions are in force will
really help.
Bruce Ritter stated that permanent parking signs stating no parking
should be place on certain streets.
Orduno stated that the Council was trying to do something that would
help the residents and that it was a very fair thing to do. Orduno
stated that she had compared petitions and there are persons on
Clearview who are in favor of the parking restrictions. There are 8
persons on Clearview who have signed either one or both petitions, the
one presented tonight and the one presented last week.
Mike Janssen stated that when the petition was brought around
it was stated to him as either sign the petition or have the
bar crowd on his street. Janssen stated that no one wants the bar
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crowd in their neighborhood so they signed the parking restriction
petition. Mr. Janssen thought a permit parking was a better idea
and went out and polled the neighbors. Mr. Janssen thought a permit
parking was a better idea and went out and polled the neighbors.
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, apologized for a time not
being put on the letter, but thanked Mr. Janssen for explaining
the situation.
Mayor Linke stated that the City of Mounds View does not have the
officers that the City of St. Paul or University of Minnesota has to
enforce permit parking.' Until a motion is made as to what to do, this
problem is still up in the air as to which way to go.
Minetor explained why the enforcement of stickers is difficult. The
officer would have to check every car on the street for a sticker.
Minetor stated it is easier to have a ban or have no ban
at all.
Mayor Linke stated that another concern would be who pays for the
stickers.
Teresa Lexcen stated that there would not be that great a need for
stickers because there is not that much on street parking going on at
the residences on a weekly or daily basis. She stated that it is of
her opinion that a permit parking situation would work.
Minetor, Director of Public Works/City Engineer stated that he
understands it to be unconstitutional to give preferential treatment to
residents on certain streets.
Annette Steiner, 5220 O'Connell Drive, stated they have no traffic from
the bar, but people do park on the street every night. She stated that
people who live on the street should have more rights than the people
going to the bar.
Teresa Lexcen, 5229 Jeffrey Drive, stated a permit that is big and
bright that could be placed on the dashboard of the vehicle would be
easy for the police to see for enforcement purposes.
Ron Michna, 5287 Edgewood Drive, brought up the seating or occupancy
problem at Robert's Off 10. Orduno explained to Mr. Michna that Mr.
Waste had been cited for not being in compliance with the site plan
for seating.
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Mayor Linke explained to Mr. Michna that there are two codes in
regard to occupancy, the Uniform Building Code and the Fire Code.
Mayor Linke stated that these two codes do not agree with each other.
Mr. Michna stated that his belief was that there was an error in
issuance of the permit for Robert's Off 10 many years ago when the
establishment was changed from a restaurant to a bar. Mr. Michna
stated that because of this error Mr. Waste is getting a bad deal
and having to pay for the City's error in issuance of a permit.
Mr. Michna also stated that he understood that the City's Code
does not allow a business to have parking across a public way.
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, explained to Mr. Michna that
that the site plan for Robert's Off 10 met the conditions of the
Code to which this establishment is grandfathered.
Mr. Michna asked if Mr. Waste had submitted a plan for parking when
he expanded the seating in the establishment.
Mr. Minetor explained to Mr. Michna that because Mr. Waste had
• adequate parking, in fact more than enough parking, to satisfy
the requirements of the Code to which he is grandfathered into and
there was no parking plan needed. Mr. Waste was in compliance.
Mr. Minetor further explained that Mr. Waste was being cited for
signing a statement on his permit that stated that the site plan
was true and accurate and it was not. This is the reason that
Mr. Waste has to remove seating to come into compliance with the
Code established for his building.
Mr. Michna stated that the remodeling that added seating is
occupancy.
Mr. Minetor stated that occupancy is the use of the building, i.e.,
changing from a bar to a used car building would be an occupancy
change.
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, stated that it is difficult
for cities and states to deal with property rights. The U.S.
Supreme Court at this time is guarding property rights. Orduno
stated whether we agree or disagree, Robert's has rights on the
property. All the City can do is try to balance the rights of
businesses to do business and the rights of City residents.
Mayor Linke stated that he read what Mr. Harrington had said and
that Ric Minetor reiterated was that when Mr. Waste removed the
volleyball court and put in seating Mr. Waste had enough parking
for seating added.
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Mr. Michna again stated that since the seating had been changed,
the overflow parking problem has gotten worse.
Mayor Linke stated that the City can't go in and arbitrarily tell
Mr. Waste that he does not have enough parking. The City can only
enforce the Code for Mr. Waste's establishment. Mayor Linke stated
that according to the site plan and the floor plan if Mr. Waste is
in compliance, the City can't do anything. Mr. Waste has been asked
to remove seating in order to come into compliance.
Mr. Michna stated that he and a neighbor have had problems with
their mailboxes being knocked off or destroyed and Mr. Michna
understands that this type of vandalism is against federal law.
Mr. Michna asked who will continue to fix their mailboxes or
replace them.
Mayor Linke stated that individuals have the right to park on
public streets and that he sympathized with Mr. Michna when it
comes to those types of problems.
Mr. Michna asked why County Road H2 had no parking posted when it
is two lanes wide and has a curb.
Councilmember Wuori stated that parking restrictions on County
Road H2 were requested by the residents of the apartment building so
there could be a loading an unloading zone there.
Mike Janssen, 2440 Clearview, suggested that the City have the Fire
Marshall look at the occupancy load in Roberts at 10:00 p.m. and at
1:00 a.m. as these are peak times.
Michna questioned the time frame of 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m.
Samantha Orduno, City Administrator, responded that this was the
time on the petitions that were submitted by the residents.
Mr. Michna stated that this time frame would create a problem for
him at times.
Mayor Linke concurred with Mr. Michna and stated that perhaps 9:00
p.m. to 2:00 a.m. would make more sense and would then cover the
second shift workers.
Mr. Michna asked the Council to take a hand count to see what time
frame they would want.
Orduno took hand count and it appeared to be 9:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m.
that was favored.
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An unidentified person at 5040 Edgewood Drive asked about outdoor
concerts and bands playing in the afternoon.
Mayor Linke stated that the Council was looking into that situation
now and may not be any of those events happening.
Ms. Janssen, 2440 Clearview, asked if there were signs to be considered
for Clearview she would like to be notified by letter in her mailbox.
Mayor Linke indicated that is why the City Administrator put the
letters out prior to this meeting to make sure all persons were
notified of the proposed parking restrictions.
Ms. Janssen thanked the Council for listening to the complaints.
Roxanne Jackson thanked the Council and staff for all their efforts.
Mr. Michna confirmed that there would be no parking along the east
side of Greenfield at any time.
Wally Steiner, 5220 O'Connell, asked that after the signs go up could
the Police Department patrol those streets that had been posted to
see if people are still parking there.
Mayor Linke asked the residents to call if there were still parking
problems on the posted streets.
MOTION/SECOND : Blanchard/Wuori to put in effect parking
restrictions on Edgewood, Greenfield and O'Connell up to Jeffrey
Drive from the hours of 9:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m.
VOTE: 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
Mayor Linke clarified that parking would be allowed on east side
of Edgewood north of 5292 and back on west side of Greenfield north
of 5309.
Councilmember Wuori confirmed there would be no parking at all on
Greenfield from the corner of H2 .
7. MOTIONf SECOND: Quick/Wuori to adopt Resolution No. 4203 restricting
parking on a portion of County Road H-2.
VOTE: 5 ayes 0 nays Motion Carried
Signs and labor will cost approximately $2500. Signs should be
• ready to be put up in a couple of weeks.
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REPORTS
Councilmember Ouick - No report.
Councilmember Blanchard - No report.
Councilmember Wuori - No report.
Coucilmember Rickaby - No report.
Report of Mayor Linke:
Mayor Linke stated he had spoke earlier to Samantha Orduno, City
Administrator, regarding the Governor's comments on how he was going to
solve the State budget problems. Mayor Linke stated that there will be
a 3.5 percent cut in Local Government Aid and he had questioned if this
was in the remainder to be paid to us or in the total Local Government
Aid. Samantha Orduno advised him that it was all Local Government
Aid. Mayor Linke stated that last year $83,000 had to be cut from the
budget and this year it looks like double that.
Report of Administrator:
Orduno reported that with the cut in Local Government Aid the City will
have to look at reducing the budget from now until the end of the year
by $163,000. Orduno explained that when private citizens are cut in
pay they cut something from their budget. When the City receives a cu
there are so many restrictions put on the City by state and federal
government and mandates placed on top of that. Orduno stated the
Primary Presidential Election as one mandate and the Hepatitus B shots
as another. These mandates cost the City a great deal of money.
Orduno encouraged everyone to attend the meeting on Wednesday,
March 11, 1992 at 6:00 p.m. with Decision Resources to discuss
the City survey in the City Hall Council Chambers.
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Staff had no report.
There being no further business before the Council, Mayor Linke adjourned
the meeting at 9:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Michele Severson
Deputy Clerk
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