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RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA
Regular Meeting
August 8, 2005
Mounds View City Hall
2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112
7:25 P.M.
1. MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. ROLL CALL: Marty, Gunn, Flaherty, Stigney and Thomas
NOT PRESENT:
4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
A. Monday, August 8, 2005 City Council Agenda.
• MOTION/SECOND: Gunn/Thomas. To Approve the Monday, August 8, 2005 agenda as
presented.
Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried.
5. SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS
A. Senator Don Betzold and Representative Connie Bernardy
Senator Betzold provided the Council with a brief update on the recent Legislative Session
noting that the regular session ended on May 23, 2005 with a special session that followed
beginning on May 24, 2005 and ending July 13, 2005. He explained that the budget had to be set
for this year noting that they went into the budget cycle with a deficit that had to be addressed.
He stated that it was a tough special session noting that in the end they ended up with a good
funding agreement for education, which was one of the main issues. He explained that the main
concern was how they would pay for it and they ended up deciding that it would be paid for
through the use of a Cigarette Health Impact Fee. He provided the Council with an overview of
the adult health care changes noting that there was a brief government shutdown during this
period of time. He stated that some of the issues addressed included an increase in the minimum
wage, tightened sentences and stricter penalties for sex offenders noting that he was pleased that
they were able to pass the bonding bill for the North Star Rail and the Medtronic TIF bill. He
stated that overall it was a very good session. He indicated that proposals were considered that
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• would have restored monies to government aid noting that the original formula would have put
back some of the funds for Mounds View but in the end it all collapsed and the monies that did
remain were distributed to the smaller cities. He stated that they also considered bipartisan
funding for a transportation bill, proposals on clean water legacy and smoking bans in restaurants
and public places. He indicated that another special session could be called if the Governor
deems that it is necessary noting that the regular session would begin next May 2006.
Representative Bernardy referenced the funding Mounds View received for the County Road J
improvements stating that the City should be proud of the fact that the community did receive
funding for the repair of their roads. She noted that one item that did not pass was the proposal
to close up the loopholes that would prevent businesses from diverting their funds on tax
payments. She indicated that the State did end up with a 4-percent annual increase for the
Education Fund and they tightened the sexual predator and methamphetamine laws. She stated
that the changes would help to restore some of the funding cut from education last year and
reviewed with Council.
Mayor Marty stated that Council has asked before whether they could use MSA funds for road
repairs and asked if this issue was discussed.
Senator Betzold stated that there was almost no bill period and when the transportation bill came
up for discussion they had a major amendment to consider that put funds back into fund. He
explained that the entire bill was basically re-written before it came over to the Senate adding
• that the Senate concurred with the recommended changes. He stated that he did not recall any
specific discussions on the use of MSA funds adding that he does not see a lot happening in
transportation this year.
Mayor Marty asked if the City could put in a request for next year.
Representative Bernardy stated that this was something that they were going to suggest adding
that they could fill out the request and submit it, see what happens.
Senator Betzold stated that since the transportation funds were not passed this year they might
consider it for next year and urged the Council to consider putting in a request for the funds.
Representative Bernardy stated that she would also like to let the Council know how proud she is
to represent the Citizens of Mounds View. She stated that she is pleased to see so many
individuals in this City involved in the Legislative process. She stated that she has received a
huge response from the residents and is very proud to represent such an involved community.
Council Member Flaherty asked about the federal funding process for the transportation projects
and clarified that the State would not have received funding had they not passed the legal limit to
.08.
• Representative Bernardy reviewed the federal funding process noting that this was going to be
the year that the State would have received a huge amount for complying with the national limits.
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• Senator Betzold noted that the State actually passed the .08 limit last year and that it would go
into affect this year.
Mayor Marty pointed out that the LGA funds were cut again this year noting that Minneapolis,
St. Paul and some of the smaller Cities did receive some LGA funding.
Senator Betzold noted that Minneapolis and St. Paul were hit harder in 2003 and explained that a
couple of different formulas were used noting that one of the formulas would have helped some
of the inner ring suburbs. He further explained that what happened is that when they had the
final agreement with the Governor, he insisted on using current law or it would all go to the
smaller Cities.
Economic Development Coordinator Backman thanked Senator Betzold and Representative
Bernardy for all of the work they have done in the Legislature relative to the City of Mounds
View. He noted that from January to May there were ten hearings that involved the City of
Mounds View and he thanked them both for their efforts on behalf of the City of Mounds View.
Ron Morgan, 2656 West County Road H2 thanked Senator Betzold and Representative Bernardy
for attending the City Council meeting and providing their update to the City. He stated that it is
nice to hear that they appreciate the Mounds View citizen's involvement and asked them to get
involved in the Red Oak Estates development. He expressed concerns stating that he believes
• that his property rights have been voided as a landowner. He indicated that there was a lawsuit
between the City and the developer that has affected the financial value of his homestead and as a
homeowner, has affected his liability. He stated that this is a very big development in Mounds
View noting that they could possibly lose their wetlands if the development does come in to the
area. He expressed concerns stating that it could also impact the value of the current properties
adding that he is concerned about who would be responsible for the watershed and stormwater
issues. He referenced the special use permits noting that the original developer did not hold up
their end of the agreement but the good news is the permit was taken away from this developer.
He stated that there should be security bonds and other issues that would guaranty that what
happened the first time would not be repeated.
6. PUBLIC INPUT
Rick Perrozzi, 2832 Highway 10, asked if Director Ericson had updated the City Council
regarding his concerns and situation.
Director Ericson stated that he has not discussed Mr. Perrozzi's concerns with the Council. He
noted that the project is currently underway and that there has been correspondence between Mr.
Perrozzi and Velmeir.
Mr. Perrozzi indicated that Velmeir was aware of what they wanted done at the time of the initial
• development. He asked how the City would have handled this situation had a developer left the
property in the same condition his was left in. He asked the Council what kind of help the City
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• would give him to resolve this problem. He explained that he would like the space to be retail
and indicated that there are several interested parties who would like to rent space but before he
feels comfortable renting space the grade level and parking lot should be corrected. He further
explained that he did ask the contractor to tear out the current lot and re-grade to the original
specifications noting that the contractor told him that they couldn't tear out and re-grade because
they just completed it. He expressed concerns and frustration stating that the contractor did a
very poor job on the parking lot. He reviewed the issues with the grade noting that he is very
concerned about the stormwater flow and what would happen when the catch basin fails, and if it
fails, what would be done with the property. He asked the Council to visit the site adding-that he
would be happy to give them a tour and explain what is actually happening on the site.
Mayor Marty asked if the City had received a copy of the letter and if so, to clarify the content of
the letter for Council.
Director Ericson confirmed that he received a letter from Velmeir, addressed to him, that
indicates that they are in agreement with what should be done and also agree that they should
provide the improvements, as promised. He stated that he, along with Economic Development
Coordinator Backman had a conference call with Velmeir to discuss the issues and all are in
agreement with what should be done at the site.
Mr. Perrozzi stated that he has not received a copy of this letter. He expressed frustration stating
that the lack of communication is wearing thin with his patience adding that this is not the way it
• should be dealt with. He questioned how they could complete a project where the parking lot is
two and half feet higher than the entrance to the building. He clarified that the issue here is not
in getting the parking lot done the issue is getting the grade of the lot corrected. He explained
that due to the current grade, water would flow into the lot and cause flooding. He asked the
Council how the City would deal with this kind of an issue and is this something that the City
Council could help him to resolve.
Mayor Many stated that he would direct Staff to look into this and find out what is actually
happening and provide Council with an update. He asked Director Ericson and City
Administrator Ulrich to research this issue and pull the information together for review at the
next City Council work session.
Mr. Perrozzi indicated that he is applying for variance to have a zero lot line. He stated that
when he met Velmeir at the site to review the grade issues the developer did state that if the curb
could be moved back to the property line they would be able to get it to work better.
Council Member Flaherty indicated that he visited the site and agreed that there is a considerable
decrease in the grade elevation up to the building. He agreed with Mayor Marty that Council did
ask Staff, at a previous meeting, to research and clarify what is happening with Velmeir and to
date Council has received nothing. He asked that Staff provide an update for their review at the
next Council work session.
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• Mr. Perrozzi stated that he did ask both Director Ericson and Economic Development
Coordinator Backman what direction they wanted to see for this site and he was told retail. He
stated that this was the direction he took in remodeling the building but found it is hard for him
to do when he has to enter the building on the east side and step down five steps to enter the
building. He stated that they kept telling him the grading was fine adding that he caught the
problem the day they were digging the footings.
Council Member Thomas cautioned the Council and City Staff stating that they have to be
careful with the level of their involvement, as to the extent of what the City could do to support
the process, when they are not a party to the negotiations. She agreed that there are issues that
the Council could help with but there are also issues that the Council can't resolve. She agreed
that Council should review and discuss this issue at their first work session in September and
then determine what kind of assistance, if any, the Council could provide.
Mr. Perrozzi asked who would be responsible for plan review and blueprint acceptance. He
asked if it would be the City, Velmeir or Loucks.
Mayor Marty stated that Council would review this issue at the next Council work session in
September.
Duane McCarty, 8060 Long Lake Road, stated that he has some concerns regarding the draft
Medtronic contract he requested and received three weeks ago. He stated that the way he sees it,
• after reviewing the contract, the way the proposal was presented there was a lot of attention made
to the $14.8 million that Medtronic would pay upfront to help enhance the feasibility of the
project, but after reading the purchasing agreement he realized that Medtronic would receive
repayment of that $14.8 million from the tax increments, which means that Medtronic would get
their investment back via a note from the City at 5-percent interest. He stated that he would like
to be able to get 37-percent of his property taxes back at 5-percent interest noting that he thought
that Medtronic stood a bit higher than that in terms of their commitments.
Mr. McCarty stated that there is also an indemnity clause included in the contract that would
require the City to indemnify all persons against what the contract identifies as environmentally
unsafe situations at the golf course property. He stated that although there is some claim that
there would be a $200,000.00 limit on the City, he is not sure how this would work. He asked
who would pick up the balance if an injured party were to sue and be granted, in court, an award
in excess of $200,000.00. He expressed concerns stating that this issue has not been clearly
outlined in the contract. He expressed his doubts that the City and Medtronic would be able to
contractually agree that the most they would ever pay out on a claim of harm, under these
conditions, would be capped at $200,000.00.
Mr. McCarty stated that much of the proposal and presentation revolved around three phases for
the Medtronic project. He stated that the purchase contract that is before Council that would run
for 25-years, very clearly only touches on or controls Phase 1. He stated that Phase 2 and Phase 3
• were purposely left out so there is no guaranty or warranty that the City would see anything more
than Phase 1. He indicated that the contract recognizes this adding that Medtronic has no
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• intention of purchasing the 72-acres with the thought of land trading or profit by selling. He
stated that at the same time the contract gives Medtronic a free hand to the extent that they can,
under certain conditions, sell the property. He stated that he knows that there are provisals that
the EDA would be involved in adding that there are also provisals that the EDA cannot unfairly
or unnecessarily withhold the approval of the sale of the property and under at least two of the
conditions Medtronic could sell the property. He suggested that if subdivision and sale is going
to be allowed the City should break it up and convey the land by section/subdivision. He stated
that if Phase 1 comes to be, that is fine, but Phase 2 would require renegotiation because the City
would still own the land and the City would gain from the increase in value.
Mr. McCarty summarized stating that the job issue very clearly shows, by testimony from
Medtronic, that the jobs in Phase 1 would come from two facilities in Shoreview that would be
closed, two facilities in Arden Hills that would be closed, and the facility in Spring Lake Park.
He stated that Medtronic has stricken the exclusion verbiage in the contract that excludes existing
jobs from the job commitment of 1500, which simply means that Medtronic is not tied to this
number and they are now hearing that Phase 1 would not bring very many new jobs and nothing
is guaranteed beyond that for Phases 2 and 3.
Mr. McCarty concluded by stating that in presenting the amount of money that Medtronic
claimed they would bring to the City of Mounds View, they put in $46,000.00 for administration
costs noting that these are TIF related administrative costs and it does nothing for the General
• Fund. He noted that they are calculating their taxes a bit higher at $43,000.00 per year, but in the
face of this year's $S.I3 million dollar budget, the $43,000.00 doesn't impress him. He stated
that was does impress him is Medtronic's claim that their franchise fee would be $80,000.00 a
year to the City of Mounds View noting that as all of the Council knows the last Council he
served on tried to get rid of the hidden tax and bring it to floor so the residents would know what
they are getting. He stated that the last Council incorporated a provision in the last budget that
25-percent of this would be taken away and replaced with the property tax and over a period of
four years would be gone. He stated that he understands it is back to the original 4-percent and
expressed concerns about the future when future Councils see $80,000.00 a year in franchise fees
at the very start. He stated that the business community and residents should know this noting
that if the franchise fee is such a plum for the City then they should consider how long it would
lock the rest of us in for the same situation. He stated that they would never see the hidden tax
come into the light of day on the property taxes it should be.
David Jahnke, 8428 Eastwood Road, stated that he would like to comment on the last speaker
noting that he has never seen a tax that went away in the City of Mounds View. He stated that he
does not understand what all the comments were about adding that he is very disappointed that
nothing was mentioned about all the pluses the Medtronic project would bring to the City of
Mounds View. He stated- that only the negatives were mentioned, which he found very
disappointing. He indicated that a resident did come down and shared honest information with
the City noting that there should have been a mass mailing to the community that included the
true facts of this .project. He expressed concerns regarding the information that is being provided
• to the community noting that there has been considerable miscommunication from the start. He
expressed his doubts about signing the petition when the information on the petition is not clear
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• or completely true. He stated that the facts have not been communicated clearly adding that
distribution of the pamphlet was a good move because it provided the community with the true
facts about the project. He stated that he is having a hard time figuring this whole thing out
adding that he would never sign his name to a document unless it tells the entire truth. He stated
that the golf course has never made money for the City adding that he is very proud of the
individuals who put out this pamphlet because now the people have the true facts about this
project.
Ron Morgan, 2656 West County Road H2 stated that he would like to quote a sentence from the
court order to the City noting that it states that the construction of the 66 townhouse units must
comply with all of the applicable provisions of the current building and fire codes noting that this
becomes the mandate of the City. He stated that as they move forward they should do their job
and do it well noting that as he looks into the past with this development it was not done well.
He acknowledged that there were a lot of different reasons and there were a lot of different
players involved in the process and they as an association had to obtain legal help and spent
thousands of dollars just to get legal title to their properly. He stated that they had to threaten to
sue noting that it was resolved before it went to court. He stated that everyone has been involved
and asked who the bigger losers would be. He noted that the City would gain in taxes and the
developer would gain but the owners within the association are taking an extreme risk with no
gain. He asked the Council and Staff for due diligence as they look to issue permits that the
permits be done through the normal protocol, that there be a planning committee in place for
people to go to, and that it be on a PUD basis so that regulations can be outlined and included.
• He stated that people have sat and waited for thirty years for a promised swimming pool adding
that if the City doesn't document this and include performance as part of the security bond it
might not get done. He stated that. it is easy to cherry pick and it would be easy for the developer
to pull out and what could the City do. He stated that he did attend the Watershed meeting and
expressed concerns that he did not see any representation from Council or City Staff. He
suggested that someone from Staff review the meeting. He stated that he was appalled at the
developer when the developer complained that the City of Mounds View would not allow them
to dump clean fill on their land. He expressed concerns stating that they were not sure that it was
actually clean fill in addition to the fact that this is not the developers land. He explained that
this common area is association land called common land and is deeded to the association. He
stated that there are six homeowners that homesteaded this and one person who owns some
vacant property are going to profit financially. He stated that for them to not see due diligence
through for the people living here would be wrong and it is his hope that the City would follow
the rules. He stated that if this goes through the City should condemn the property noting that the
City has great powers and questioned how the City ever lost the lawsuit. He stated that it was
good that the City pulled it noting that it was a conditional special use permit and pulling it was
the right thing to do. He stated that the thing he believes the City should do is condemn the
property, take it, pay the residents for it, and do whatever they want with the property. He stated
that they have had several years of hardship and wrong doings here and would rather see the land
condemned. and give it back to the developer. He stated that he believes this would be the
prudent way to handle this situation.
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. Duane McCarty, 8060 Long Lake Road, stated that he meant to mention when he was dealing
with the contractual issues that he had read in the minutes of the Council meeting where the Fire
Department had come in to request approval for their project to replace Stations 3 and 5 on
Highway 65 and the land costs for the first estimate was at $115,000.00 per acre. He noted that
one of the Council Member's had moved to make that the cap in the motion and Staff quickly
informed that Council Member that the land in that area along Highway 65, although as
congested as it is during the day, goes for $150,000.00 to $170,000.00 per acre and they thought
that if they could make the $115,000.00 work, which is an unusual situation, but perhaps if they
couldn't, then the amendment to cap it at $115,000.00 would put the City in a difficult situation.
He commented that considering that the golf course property is prime location and much more
desirable than anything else that could be produced on Highway 65, he asked why the City is
taking $120,000.00 for the golf course property when the prices for less desirable properties are
going for $150,000 to $170,000.
Council Member Stigney stated they are not discussing what is up in Blaine they are talking
about the appraised land value for The Bridges Golf Course.
City Administrator Ulrich confirmed stating that this was a negotiated land sale based on the
value of the appraisal and reflects the value of the land for this location. He added that there is
quite a difference between large parcels per acre value and a small retail or commercial parcel.
He referenced the Walgreen's parcel, which is a smaller 1-2 acre parcel, noting that it would be
worth more per square foot than a 40-acre tract of land that would be used for an office building.
• He explained that generally the parcels would be priced differently in the marketplace on a per
acre or square footage basis.
Mr. McGarry noted that along that line a previous speaker had pointed out eminent domain and
asked if three appraisals were done on this.
Mayor Marty clarified that the City only did one appraisal He stated that he had some questions
regarding the development that Mr. Morgan was discussing. He stated that the developer had
done some soil borings noting that the City had received a copy of the plat showing that the
location of the borings was in the middle of the driveway area and that it was indicated at the last
Council work session that they received Rice Creek Watershed approval, which means that the
developer could begin the permit application process. He asked if the developer has started the
permit application process adding that because much of the development east of Greenwood is
located within a wetland or wetland buffer zone shouldn't the developer provide soil borings
from the actual area where the pads would be placed. He asked if they should have soil borings
from the specific area before a developer can build in that specific area.
Director Ericson confirmed stating that before any building permits could be issued for this
project on an area such as this the City would be requiring an engineered soil analysis for each
building. He stated that soil borings would have to be conducted noting that the Rice Creek
Watershed approval was conditional and it is his understanding that there are a number of issues
• that Mr. Hartstad has to resubmit back to Rice Creek Watershed District. He stated that he is not
sure if this has happened yet noting that he could find out when they plan to have this
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• information back to the Rice Creek Watershed District. He stated that once the information has
been received and the permit is approved the City would receive a fax from Rice Creek
Watershed upon issuance of the permit. He assured the Council that the City would know, in
advance, about any activities that would be occurring on that site.
Mayor Many asked if the Rice Creek Watershed would receive the results from the soil borings
for the footprints of the building locations and would the information be forwarded to Rice Creek
Watershed if the area is deemed to be a wetland area.
Director Ericson stated that the Rice Creek Watershed would not receive the results from the soil
borings because it is a City issue. He explained that the judges ruling indicated that the City's
wetland zoning provisions, the alteration provisions and the buffer provisions are not applicable
in this case. He stated that the judges ruling looked at it from a 1972/73 perspective indicating
that anything adopted since then should not apply to this case, with the exception of the building
and fire codes. He stated that when the City receives the plans for the buildings Staff would
review them based on the current codes. He assured Council that Staff would review them very
closely to make sure they do satisfy all requirements for a building of that size.
Mayor Marty asked if the Rice Creek Watershed district would have anything to say about the
developer being able to build within a wetland or could the developer actually fill and build
within a wetland area.
• Director Ericson stated that the developer provided a wetland delineation report to the Rice
Creek Watershed District and the Rice Creek Watershed did accept that delineation. He
explained that there is some mitigation that would be occurring with that site and Rice Creek
Watershed has approved the mitigation plan for that development. He stated that in terms of
finding wetland that is not going to occur because they have already identified where the wetland
areas are located. He noted that the soil borings could result in unsuitable land or soil and they
would then have to do some engineering to provide stability for the homes or they could
determine that it would not be cost effective to build a home due to poor soil. He stated that they
could opt to leave that sit rather than construct on the poor soil.
Mayor Marty stated that it was originally reported to the Council that if there were any changes to
the original plat that the original justification or approval would be null and void and asked if this
is correct.
Director Ericson stated that this was not correct and explained that if there are any changes to the
site plan that would relate to drainage, runoff, location of the drive aisles or anything that affects
the approved stormwater management plan for that site would have to go back through the Rice
Creek Watershed Board of Commissioners for review and approval. He stated that it would not
negate the permit .but it would require that the Board review the changes and address any issues
at that time.
• Council Member Thomas stated that this discussion has gone beyond the scope of public input
and suggested that this item be included on the agenda for the next Council work session.
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• Mr. Jahnke stated that if the residents would sit down and really look at the funds the City has
received from all of this they would understand that no other developer would have been able to
help this City with projects like the County Road J improvement project. He stated that the City
was able to do this project because of Medtronic and they never say anything about that. He
stated that the City got plenty for this land for what Medtronic got for the City.
Mayor Marty asked if the Council feels that the development should be brought back for
discussion at a work session.
Council Member Thomas stated that she does not think it is necessary.
Council Member Flaherty~stated that Council should discuss this further. He stated that he would
like to review the plan further before they start developing the land.
Council Member Gunn asked if they have new information that should be reviewed.
Director Ericson stated that there is no new information at this point noting that Staff would
provide Council with updates if they do receive any changes. He stated that this is not a project
that would be heard by the Planning Commission or the City Council noting that it would not be
rezoned or go into a PUD. He agreed that Mr. Morgan brings up a point that the City could
consider condemning the property but it would involve spending millions of dollars to acquire
• the land.
City Administrator Ulrich clarified that Mr. Morgan is asking the City to purchase the existing
units or purchase the land for the 66 units or both. He stated that his answer would dictate
whether it should be discussed at a work session.
Mr. Morgan stated that he does want due diligence from the City relative to the building permits.
He stated that he wants it to follow normal protocol. He stated that the court order did not say
that it could not be a PUD, that it shouldn't go through the Planning Commission or that it
should not be reviewed by City Council. He stated that this is the responsibility of the City to
follow the normal protocol and do the right thing to protect the problems the City has
experienced in the past. He stated that it has been 30-years noting that he thinks they, as owners,
take an extreme risk. He stated that it is his understanding that the court order states that the
developer has to build 66 units. He stated that just because the developer doesn't want to, he
doesn't get that vote. He stated that they sit on peat moss and there are structural problems. He
explained that this has nothing to do with the Watershed adding that the Watershed has told them
that this is a City issue. He stated that the warranty comes from the builder. He expressed
concerns stating that the homeowners bear the costs and the condemnation would give him a fair
market price for his property and it would get him out of the responsibility of bearing those
dollars.
• City Administrator Ulrich stated that Staff could take a look at condemning the existing six units
on the property noting that generally the City relies on a slum and blight finding, which he
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• doesn't think would apply. He stated that it would probably be inappropriate to acquire the
properties because there would be civil issues with the development.
Mayor Marty stated that the Council would pass on discussing this further at a work session until
more information has been received.
7. JUST AND CORRECT CLAIMS.
MOTION/SECOND. Flaherty/Thomas. To approve the Just and Correct Claims as presented.
Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried.
8. COUNCIL BUSINESS.
A. 7:05 Public Hearing and Resolution 6593 Approving the Development
Agreement to provide $250,000 in Tag Increment Financing (TIF) Assistance
to SYSCO Food Services of Minnesota to facilitate expansion of the business
located at 2400 County Road J in Mounds View.
Economic Development Coordinator Backman stated that SYSCO Minnesota in Mounds View
has outgrown its' existing parking areas and would like to add approximately 100 parking stalls
for passenger vehicles and 53 for truck parking. He stated that SYSCO Minnesota has estimated
• that the expansion project would cost approximately $1.2 million. He stated that SYSCO
Minnesota has requested $250,000.00 in TIF assistance to pay for redevelopment costs including
stormwater management and wetland mitigation. He stated that Staff recommends that Council
adopt Resolution No. 6593 approving the development agreement to provide $250,000 in TIF
assistance to SYSCO Minnesota with the two caveats discussed during the EDA. He explained
that instead of a three-year term it would be a two-year term at 30-percent.
Mayor Marry clarified that the EDA discussed this issue extensively and it was 30-percent and
was changed to 50-percent in order to cover the two-year term.
Mayor Many opened the public hearing at 8:32 p.m.
Mayor Marty closed the public hearing at 8:33 p.m.
Council Member Stigney stated that his concerns are that SYSCO has exceeded their required
space and would now like to expand into the wetland, which is land they deeded to the City as
passive use and now want to use it as heavy industrial and use TIF money to do it. He stated that
if SYSCO wants to expand into a wetland and get the land back for free he doesn't have a
problem with that because they gave it to us and now want three acres back but they should do it
themselves without asking for TIF money from the TIF District to support that operation. He
stated that he is sure they can do it themselves, but if they can't and upper management doesn't
• think it is a good thing to do then they should do it. He stated that the City does not need another
53 semi-trucks coming into the City.
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• Economic Development Coordinator Backman stated that he would like to point out one item
relative to the three-acres and explained that they are talking about three-acres out of the 46-acres
donated to the City. He stated that a good portion of the land added is not necessarily currently
wetlands and reviewed the locations with Council. He stated that there are wetlands located in
the area adding that not all three acres are in the wetland area.
Council Member Stigney clarified that he had said that SYSCO wished to build into the wetland
acres by 3-acres and obviously they wouldn't be asking for money to mitigate if it wasn't a
wetland area. He stated that if it were open top land they wouldn't need the money to relocate
the pond and everything else out there. He stated that is the reason why he does not support this.
Mayor Many explained that one of the reasons that SYSCO is asking for this assistance is
because their corporate offices capped their expenses at $1 million dollars for expansion and
development projects like this and the expenses for this expansion would be slightly over the
capped amount. He stated that he spoke with President Phil Seipp earlier today and he explained
that SYSCO's money could very possibly go to another facility located in another State if this is
not approved. He expressed concerns stating that SYSCO has been a good neighbor to the City
of Mounds View and they have added business, added employees and with this expansion they
would have the potential to add another 100 employees. He stated that without this assistance
from the City this development, expansion and the new jobs would very likely not be coming to
the City of Mounds View. He also noted that this would be paid back to the City over atwo-year
. period and reviewed.
Council Member Stigney clarified that if SYSCO wants to cut off the expense at $1 million that
is a corporate decision on their part and is their decision to make. He stated that if they wish not
to expand here on that basis that is their decision to make and his decision is to determine
whether to allow them to come in and expand in a wetland and ask for TIF money to do it. He
noted that the residents are picking up $61,000 a year in fiscal disparities in order to keep that
TIF District open.
Mayor Marty clarifed that this would be paid back within two years noting that SYSCO has been
a good neighbor and business. He explained that the reason they are expanding is to add jobs.
MOTION/SECOND. Thomas/Flaherty. To Approve Resolution 6593 with the two amendments
and to Approve the Development Agreement to provide $125,000.00 in Tax Increment Financing
(TIF) Assistance to SYSCO Food Services of Minnesota to facilitate the expansion of the
business located at 2400 County Road J in Mounds View.
Ayes-4 Nays-1 (Stigney) Motion carried.
B. Review Proposed 2006 City Budget/Preliminary Levy.
• City Administrator Ulrich referenced the enclosed copy of the preliminary budget, which the
recommended action for this evening is to postpone for discussion at the Special Work Session
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• scheduled for August 15, 2005. He noted that Staff is projecting an 8-percent increase in the
base levy based on expenditure increases of approximately the same percentage. He explained
that the goal Staff had in developing this budget, in terms of the impact to the general levy, is to
keep it at less than 10-percent. He stated that this is also consistent with past Council comments
and citizen surveys where it was indicated that the desire was to keep the levy low. He stated
that this is a starting point, open for discussion adding that the LGA cuts of $122, 217.00 brings
the City down to a zero amount received for local government aid from the State of Minnesota.
He stated that in order to make up that amount it would mean a 3-percent increase in the base
levy if the City were to choose to levy for it. He noted that there are no levy limits in place for
2006.
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City Administrator Ulrich stated that there are two major personnel changes proposed, the first
involves upgrading the Administrative Assistant to an Assistant to the City Administrator and
adding communications coordination duties to the City Receptionist position; and the second
involves adding Code Enforcement personnel and staff in the Community Development
Department. He referenced the wages stating that 3-percent across the board was used to
determine the increase in wages; he indicated that the health insurance would be an issue this
year noting that the contract, approved last year, was capped in the second year, by the provider,
at 18-percent and the City's portion of that is an increase in the family insurance of 13.6-percen
He stated that at this point the preliminary budget has to be to the County by September 15, 200
He explained that it generally follows a budget process time for the City Council where a
preliminary levy is established and that means that the City Council can levy no more than that
amount, but the levy can be reduced between that time and December when a final levy has to b
certified to the County. He further explained that the preliminary levy is establishing the ceilin
for the levy by September 15, 2005.
City Administrator Ulrich stated that it is important to note on the proposed budget that a lot of
the base levy impact was reduced by placing a fair burden on the vehicle and equipment fund
adding that the fund would have to be reviewed in detail to determine how the fund would be
replenished. He stated that $259,000 was spent out of this fund last year noting that the current
balance is $1.5 million and $622,000.00 of that balance is currently proposed for this year's
vehicle and equipment expenditures. He indicated that the City budgets an annual contribution
of $90,000.00 to this fund and Staff plans to review the details of this fund as a part of this
process. He stated that if they have questions or would like to see modifications made prior to
the meeting on the 15th that could be done based on tonight's discussion.
Council Member Stigney referenced the $122,217.00 LGA loss and asked what the percentage
increase would be to the current 8-percent base levy if the City were to levy that amount to offs
the loss.
City Administrator Ulrich explained that the 8-percent includes the increase to make up for the
LGA loss. He further explained that the LGA alone is 3-percent, which is included in the 8-
percent base levy.
Mayor Marty clarified that they are only considering a preliminary levy at this time of
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• City Administrator Ulrich confirmed noting that last year the City lost nearly three times as much
in local government aid and the City also experienced significant increases in the health
insurance.
Council Member Flaherty stated that the City knew that the LGA loss of $122,217.00 was
coming adding that the 8-percent is way overboard as far as he is concerned with a levy. He
stated that this is one of the reasons why he ran for the Council. He asked the City Administrator
and Staff to look for ways that would reduce this before they get to the roundtable. He stated that
he would not back an 8-percent levy.
Council Member Gunn agreed stating that they go through this every year and keep asking Staff
to find more ways to cut from the budget. She expressed concerns stating that she is not sure that
there is anything more that can be cut.
Council Member Flaherty noted that he is probably not saying anything new but everyone is very
tired of what the levies have been in this City. He stated that if they need to be tough that is what
they have to do.
Council Member Thomas stated that she would hold off on any comments until next week. She
stated that she is planning to spend the next week to review this information adding that this is
giving Council a starting point to begin their discussions on the budget.
• Mayor Marty referenced the ersonnel allocations on a e two of the Staff re ort notin that due
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to the concerns about allocations of the salaries to the EDA fund, salaries for the City
Administrator, Finance Director and Community Director have been relocated to the General
Fund and in 2006 the General Fund will cover an additional 5-percent of the City Administrator
and Finance Director salaries and 10-percent of the Community Director's salary. He stated that
the reason some of these were allocated out of the TIF pool is because some of their
responsibilities were related to TIF and in overseeing TIF and asked if any of the time and
amounts could be allocated to the TIF pool. He asked Staff to look at this more closely noting
that they might not get the percentages that are going to be allocated back into the General Fund
but if they could keep any of this out of the General Fund and paid for out of TIF they would like
to see that happen.
Mayor Marty referenced the franchise tax noting that the last paragraph reads that City Council
has the option to increase the percentage going to the General Fund. This would hold down the
General Fund's tax increase in 2006 but increase debt service taxes in the future. He clarified
that the debt services taxes are probably related to street improvements. He stated that it is up to
Council to review this information and identify areas where they could cut. He stated that he has
highlighted areas that he would like further clarification noting that he would direct his
comments later in the week and asked Staff to clarify.
• Council Member Thomas stated that it is her understanding that the TIF changes, as far as
personnel allocations, was not done out of a finance reason but out of concern for the
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• interpretation of where they were putting the funds. She stated that they have more than enough
of the funding issues available to cover it and could leave it in the TIF funds if they wanted to
and at this point this would be a good direction for Staff if paying this is a legitimate concern.
City Administrator Ulrich explained that it had become an accounting problem with respect to
the time spent over the last couple of years.
Mayor Marty confirmed noting that the more they could transfer under that, as it was pointed out
to them earlier, that with the amount in the TIF pool, if this keeps building the City might have to
start paying some out.
Council Member Thomas stated that this is not enough of a concern to her to justify moving that
to the General Fund. She stated that she believes these are legitimate expenses in the TIF
District, which is why they have administrative fees with TIF .Districts. She stated that she
believes it is entirely appropriate to leave those personnel costs, for the moment, within the TIF
funds.
Mayor Marty explained that when he spoke with Mr. Hansen about the funds, one of his concerns
was with the accountability in reporting, which is where this probably came from.
Council Member Gunn explained that her concern with this is that as they go through
decertifying the TIF Districts, the City does not get hit all of a sudden with three salaries that
• would have to come completely out of the General Fund. She suggested gradually working
through this little by little so that the City is not hit with the entire amount all at once.
Mayor Marty acknowledged her concerns and suggested discussing this issue as part of next
year's budget discussion. He noted that the Council has a special work session scheduled for
next Monday at 7:00 p.m. to specifically discuss these issues.
C. Resolution 6585 Approving a Severance Package for Regular Full-time Golf
Course Employees.
City Administrator Ulrich stated that this item was discussed at the City Council Special Work
Session on July 5, 2005 and at that time it was the consensus of the Council to allow the normal
vacation, sick leave payouts in accordance with City policy and to allow accumulated flex time to
be paid out, over time, to each of the golf course employees impacted. He stated that currently
there are three fulltime, permanent employees at the golf course. He explained that flex time was
the vehicle used to account for the overtime hours the employees work during the summer that
are carried over into the winter. He explained that the employees normally work extra hours
during the summer and are paid, via flextime, during the winter months in order to remain on the
payroll as full-time, year-round employees. He stated that currently the City does not have any
special severance pay provisions for economic layoff noting that the last time this was discussed
he had proposed cone-week, per year of service severance provision and the Council, at the time,
• wanted more time to consider the proposal. He stated that the Resolution, as presented, outlines
the severance package and consists of the normal severance provisions of sick leave and vacation
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• severance as well as allowing the employees to utilize accumulated sick time and flex time
noting that each employee would be given an additional severance payment that would consist of
one week of pay for each complete year of service. He stated that as of January 1, 2006 one
employee would have nine years of completed service and the other two employees would have
three years of completed service.
City Administrator Ulrich provided the Council with a packet of information for each employee
noting that Staff had $50,000.00 budgeted in the proforma for the Medtronic project to cover the
severance packages. He explained that he had tried to project this as a `most cost' situation in
terms of the most the City could expect to pay. He further explained that based on historical
records the flex-time for these employees tends to extend until approximately March 1St adding
that the overall total payout, based on the vacation, the flex-time severance payout, the 50-
percent sick time payout up to a maximum of 960 hours, and a one week/per year of service
payout, for all three employees would be $54,956.00. He noted that the current numbers are
based on the employees working until December 31, 2005 and indicated that this amount could
be reduced if the severance date is adjusted to either October or November 1St. He stated that an
actual end date has not been determined yet noting that he anticipates the need to keep the
employees on through the shutdown process, as they would need their help to resolve the
disposition of the equipment and in closing the books. He stated that this would be the `most
cost' scenario that could be envisioned based upon the resolution presented to Council this
evening and recommended its' consideration and approval.
• Council Member Flaherty asked what the City's policy is for carryover of vacation time.
City Administrator Ulrich stated that there is a maximum carryover limit of two weeks over the
accrual rate. He stated that some of the carryover would have to be used by the end of the year.
Mayor Marty clarified that this is not the actual highest rate and asked if it could end up lower
than what is proposed.
City Administrator Ulrich confirmed stating that it would depend on the actual termination date
adding that as things wind down there would be fewer hours accrued during that time period.
Council Member Thomas stated that her biggest concern is the payout of one week per year of
service on what the City is actually doing. She stated that this would be approximately five
months of paid severance time in addition to the cash out. She expressed concerns stating that
they are talking about a lot of time, a total of 15 weeks. She stated that her point is the City
paying severance to people who might have another job.
City Administrator Ulrich noted that the sick time and vacation time would still be paid out
whether they left tomorrow to go to another golf course or through this process.
Council Member Gunn stated that this is the same kind of severance package that was used
during the layoffs that occurred during her time at UNISYS. She stated that this is a basically
normal type of package if based on industry standards.
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Council Member Stigney agreed that this is a typical package based on industry standards and
noted that this is not a private industry. He stated that they have had layoffs in the Park and
Recreation department in addition to the displacement of a Building Inspector. He stated that the
Human Resources Committee is currently reviewing some of these items and he is surprised to
see some of this included in the package being recommended for approval. He stated that he
would prefer to see this more clearly defined before taking action on it. He stated that the listing
showing dollars amounts does not show the amount of flex time accumulated by these
individuals and he would like to know that number. He explained that the way he understands
the resolution the termination date for each employee would be established based on their flex
time balance, which means that the employee would not be terminated until all of their flex time
has been used. He expressed concerns stating that it is his belief that the termination date should
be the actual date that the employee is laid off. He stated that if the City wants to pay the
employee for their flex time then the City should consider that as a separate item but the
termination date should be reflected as the actual last date the employee worked. He stated that if
the City wants to ask someone to stay on to complete a certain amount of work then that could be
addressed at that time noting that their end date would be the actual date of termination.
Council Member Flaherty stated that he comes from the private sector and was very surprised at
all of this noting that he had no idea of the dollars involved in something like this. He stated that
this does not include the flextime.
City Administrator Ulrich stated that the numbers actually do include the flextime because it
carries the employees out to March 1St
Council Member Stigney stated that they should not carry anyone to March lst, the City should
only carry them to the day of termination noting that if the City wants to pay them for their flex-
time address it as a separate item.
City Administrator Ulrich referenced the accrual of vacations and confirmed that it is true that
the employees would continue to accrue vacation and sick leave during the period of time that
they would be kept on to complete the shutdown process.
Council Member Stigney stated that it would also continue to accrue time that would help to pay
their health insurance for a longer period of time. He stated that he firmly believes that an
employees' termination date should be the final date worked.
Golf Course Manager acknowledged Council's concerns noting that it does look like a large
number adding that Staff did put in all of the hours with the benefits attached to the hours they
worked for their health care insurance and if it is cutoff they would actually get less earning and
should get the time paid back to them as paid time off. She assured the Council that they did
work the hours and it is not like the Council is giving the employees something they haven't
earned. She stated that they have put in the effort and time adding that they would be paying
• them less for the time they have earned and to give them less that what they have earned would
not be right.
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• Council Member Thomas indicated that the Council has already discussed this, which is one of
the reasons why she supports allowing them to use the flextime at the end of the season. She
agreed that it would be unfair to cut them off on something they have been deliberately using and
setting up their job schedule to utilize and hold the days for that specific purpose. She explained
that normally it is an unusual situation to payout flextime noting that in this case it is called for
due to the odd nature of the schedule. She stated that the issue is in trying to determine if they
would use the flex plus the one-week or is there atrade-off where they use the flextime or take
the one-week per year. She stated that she definitely believes that the employees should be
allowed to use up the flextime that they have already earned noting that she is not sure on the
payout of one week per year.
Council Member Flaherty agreed with Council Member Thomas noting that he has no issues
with the flextime. He stated that he is concerned about the one-week pay per year of service
noting that he can't get past the amount of vacation time the employees have accrued.
Mary Burg, Golf Course Manager clarified to Council that most of the employees do take the
majority of their vacation time and reviewed the carryover process with Council. She agreed that
it is a large number in comparison to the private sector adding that typically people who work at
a golf course tend to work longer hours in the summer. She stated that these employees do give
an awful lot when it comes to the hours they actually work adding that it is a labor of love by the
people who are employed there and they work very hard for the City to make the golf course a
good operation. She also noted that in Ken Manthis's case, from what she can gather, this is the
only golf course that does not pay him for the time he spends giving customers a golf lesson. She
stated that he gives lessons all the time and he never tells a customer that he cannot give them a
lesson and he doesn't get any monetary value for it. She stated that Ken has put in a lot of effort
and time and has brought in a lot of the income for the City. She stated that she is willing to turn
her money over to Ken.
Council Member Thomas stated that this was a kind offer but it is not set up in the system to be
able to accommodate that request. She asked what the hiring window is for golf courses and
when are they looking to hire new people. She asked what options the employees would have if
they were kept on the payroll until March 1St and would the timeframe end up being too late for
any of them to find a job with a different golf course.
Manager Burg stated that it is her belief that some people are already looking for jobs noting that
some may have already found a new position. She stated that there is always a big shift
throughout the winter months noting that they usually want to have people in place by February.
Council Member Thomas stated that one of the things she wants to be sure of is that there is
coverage for these employees during this window of time noting that they do work very hard and
this is something that the City should be covering them on.
• Council Member Flaherty clarified that he does not have a problem with paying out for the
vacation time because this is something the employee accrues. He stated that he also agrees with
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the sick leave payout adding that typically one week of pay for each year of service is usually
reserved for a department head. He sated that in his view the only department head is Manager
Burg and would have no problem with her receiving this severance package but for the other two
this package would not be appropriate.
Council Member Stigney stated that severance, however it is accrued and paid to who should be
balanced with the flextime. He stated that they should do one or the other adding that his bigger
problem is the termination pay. He stated that he does not believe the City should be carrying
people on the payroll, accumulating vacation and benefits until March 1St. He stated that when
an employee is terminated they are no longer an employee and have been laid off effective on
their last date worked. He stated that if the City wishes to pay either severance or flextime, it
should be based upon the termination date of the employee. He stated that if the City wants to
keep a couple of the employees on to wrap things up he has no problem with that but if they are
laid off they are laid off on that date, not Mazch 1St
Manager Burg, asked if this is a TIF eligible expense.
City Administrator Ulrich stated that he assuming that it isn't but it is something they could look
into.
Mayor Marty stated that he is a little concerned about Ken noting he has been here the longest
and has seen the ups and downs of everything that has gone on with the golf course. He stated
• that Ken has kept that golf course running over the years noting that the City has been through
several golf course managers and if it hadn't been for Ken that golf course would have lost a lot
of money. He stated that he has probably put in more time than what he has been credited with
here and he is concerned about his future employability or future insurance. He stated that he
would see this as warranted noting that Medtronic has picked up a lot of the development costs
and maybe as a gesture of goodwill they might help to cover this cost.
Council Member Thomas stated that the City is perfectly capable of taking caze of their
employees noting that this is not a dollar issue for her. She explained that her concern is the
possible precedent issue this sets for all other employee relations. She stated that the Council has
to take into consideration how this decision would impact alI of the employees noting that if the
City deviates from the standard practice it could be used as a precedent on future issues.
Council Member Gunn asked what the policy is for flextime payouts.
City Administrator Ulrich stated that currently there is no specific policy addressing flextime.
Golf Course Manager Burg explained that there is a different provision for the golf course
employees with respect to their flextime adding that the policy outlines the number of hours that
can be used per week noting that the golf course puts their entire week of work into smaller
increments and periods of time.
• City Administrator Ulrich clarified that currently the policy does not allow payout for flex time
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• noting that if a golf course employee chooses to leave for other reasons there is no payout to the
employee for their flex-time.
Golf Course Manager Burg stated that if the Council does decide that there would not be a
payout for flextime at this point she is not sure if they could manage the golf course with people
trying to take 16 hours off every pay period. She stated that she wouldn't be able to do it without
the employees noting that they had 280 golfers one day last week, which was 20 away from the
maximum. She assured Council that if her staff leaves they wouldn't get the money to pay for
the costs of the golf course for this year.
Council Member Gunn stated that based on whatever the termination date is and the employee is
given a choice of a flex-time payout or one week of pay for each year of service noting that if
they choose the service payout the flex-time would be mute and if they choose the flex-time
payout the service payout would be mute. She stated that this is not something that the Council
is prepared to make a decision on at this point adding that the Council needs to know the
flextime hours and amounts.
Golf Course Manager Burg stated that she could provide the Council with a rough estimate of the
hours for their review. She indicated that she has approximately 100 hours, Dave has
approximately 400 hours, and Ken is approximately 250 to 300 hours. She stated that it might be
easier to understand the dollar impact if they supply the Council with the actual hours accrued.
• Mayor Many agreed and asked that they put together the actual hours and dollars and provide to
Council for their review.
City Administrator Ulrich stated that he would provide each of the Council Members with a copy
of the standards for the flextime payout and vacation payout for their review.
Council Member Thomas asked if they are going to adapt the formulation on dollar value for flex
hours to reflect the appropriate accruals that they would get for other dollar values on time. She
stated that if they stayed on the books using that flextime they are accruing a dollar value of
vacation time for payout. She explained that if they take away that working time of flex time and
pay it out instead they are not getting the true value of those dollars unless they are accruing the
other benefits they would be gaining while using those flex hours. She stated that this was the
only reason why she said it would make more sense for them to be on the payroll using those
flex-hours to get true values of the time they have put in. She stated that the Council could
assign the dollar values for the straight hours if that is what they would prefer but this is an
exception in the policy that states that the flex hours should be treated differently for these people
because their schedule is different. She stated that this is a factor that should be brought into play
if they are going to determine a drop dead date on the flex hours and pay out on the flex hours,
then it would be appropriate to include the formulation of what the accruals would have been
because that was a part of the benefits of their job and it would be a piece that is being lost.
• Mayor Marty noted that a lump sum payout would have an affect on their taxes adding that it
would behoove them to remain on the payroll and use their flextime hours.
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• City Administrator Ulrich stated that it also sets the precedent for paying off the flex-hours rather
than having them use the hours. He stated that they would have the same issue with any of the
administrative staff who also accumulate flex-hours and the City has not compensated those
upon termination.
Council Member Thomas stated that the least amount of deviation was to let them to work out
the flex hours because it was actually mentioned in the personnel manual as an exception
whereas nothing else they have discussed is.
Council Member Stigney stated that with this being an exception the exception should be that the
City should pay the flextime based on the date of termination.
Mayor Marty suggested getting copies of the documentation on the flextime from the manual and
an update of the actual hours and include for discussion at the next Council meeting.
D. Resolution 6595 Approving the 2005 Festival in the Park Contract.
Administrative Assistant Crane stated that at the August 1, 2005 Special Work Session the City
Council discussed and reviewed the Festival in the Park of Mounds View contract. She
explained that the Festival in the Park of Mounds View contract authorizes the Mayor and the
City Administrator to execute the 2005 Festival agreement.
• Ma or M clarified that this is the same contract that the Ci has used for the last four ears.
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Council Member Gunn confirmed noting that Administrative Assistant Crane also has a copy of
their insurance contract and the insurance contract from Melrose Pyrotechnics. She assured the
Council that everything was current.
City Administrator Ulrich noted that later on the agenda they have the discussion for the
distribution of the Bethlehem Baptist Church funds in the amount of $2,500.00, which is
projected to go towards the Festival in the Park and it is his understanding that this would be in
addition to the $4,000.00 that the City would contribute. He stated that he does not want any
misunderstanding noting that there would be the $4,000.00 plus the $2,500.00 going through the
City for the Festival in the Park.
MOTION/SECOND. Thomas/Stigney. To approve Resolution 6595 Approving the 2005
Festival in the Park Contract and waive the reading.
Ayes-5 Nays-0 Motion carried.
E. Resolution 6596 Approving a Step Increase for Sergeant Mike Kampa,
Mounds View Police Department
Administrative Assistant Crane explained that Sergeant Mike Kampa is a current employee of the
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• City of Mounds View and the Mounds View Police department noting that his supervisor has
reviewed his performance. as it relates to the responsibilities outlined in the job description. She
stated that it was determined that Sergeant Kampa has more than satisfactorily performed in the
capacity of his position and therefore the step increase wage adjustment is consistent with the
personnel manual and the labor agreements. She stated that he would go from Step 4, $31.93 an
hour to Step 5, $33.61 an hour, effective August 2, 2005. She stated that Staff recommends
approval.
Mayor Marty clarified that the date of his current position started February 2, 2004 and asked if
this would mean that Sergeant Kampa is no longer on probation.
Administrative Assistant Crane confirmed that he is in his 18th month and is no longer on
probation.
MOTION/SECOND. Gunn/Flaherty To Approve Resolution 6596 Approving a Step Increase for
Sergeant Mike Kampa, Mounds View Police Department.
Ayes-5 Nays-0 Motion carried.
F. Resolution 6597 Approving a Gasoline and Tobacco License for Mounds
View BP, Inc., located at 2155 Highway 10.
• Administrative Assistant Crane stated that the applicant, Mr. Simon and his business corporation,
Mounds View BP, Inc., is requesting a tobacco and gasoline license for the business located at
2155 Highway 10. She stated that Oasis Market #355, which is owned by Twin Cities Stores,
Inc., currently owns it and Twin Cities Stores, Inc. would be transferring ownership to Mr. Simon
upon approval of this resolution. She stated that all appropriate materials, fees and proof of
workmen's compensation insurance have been submitted. She stated that a fire inspection was
done with minor code violations noting that the transfer of ownership to the new owner has 30-
days to correct the fire code violations. She stated that Twin Cities Stores has submitted a final
request for the water bill adding that the license period would be from August 9, 2005 to June 30,
2006.
Mayor Marty stated that the only question he has is with respect to the fire code violations noting
that they just granted a license on July 1st to the other owner and expressed concerns that they
already have a fire code violation.
Administrative Assistant Crane explained that they have corrected some of the problems noting
that they did not have time to correct all of the violations prior to the transfer to the new owner.
She assured Council that an effort has been made to correct all of the violations noting that some
are still in the process of being worked out.
MOTION/SECOND Stigney/Thomas To approve Resolution 6597 Approving a Gasoline and
• Tobacco License for Mounds View BP, Inc., located at 2155 Highway 10 and waive the reading.
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Ayes-5 Nays-0 Motion carried.
G. Resolution 6589 Approving a Minor Subdivision of 2812 Sherwood Road and
8084 Fairchild Avenue.
Director Ericson stated that the property owners of 8084 Fairchild Avenue are requesting the
approval of a minor subdivision noting that it would include the back one-third of the properly
located at 2812 Sherwood, which is adjacent to the Fairchild property. He explained that
currently there are two lots involved in this subdivision and it would create a third lot and the
third lot would be fronting Fairchild Avenue. He stated that all of the properties involved are
zoned R-1 Single-Family residential and they are designated low-density residential on the City's
Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map. He stated that the minor subdivision would be
consistent with the subdivision regulations, zoning regulations and all other requirements of the
City of Mounds View. He stated that this request has been reviewed by the Planning
Commission noting that couple of the issues discussed included Park Dedication requirements
noting that they did some research on in previous minor subdivisions of land prior to the City
code changes. He stated that they had previously accessed a 5-percent valuation on the park
dedication and that is now open-ended and up to the Council's discretion to determine what
would be an appropriate designation for a subdivision. He stated that if they utilize the 5-percent
park dedication fee for this property based on the per square foot value for the lot to be created it
would be a fee of $2,835.00, which is substantially more than previous minor subdivision park
dedication fees. He explained that it does reflect the fact that as the years progress land values
• are increasing and there is evidence that Ramsey County is catching up on property values as
well. He noted that they are not looking at a dollar per square foot as they have seen in the past
adding that it is closer to $4.00 per foot, which is why they have a larger park dedication fee. He
stated that originally they had indicated that it could be as high as $5,000.00 based on the 10-
percent valuation adding that there has to be some reasonable relationship between the
subdivision and the intensification of the land use. He stated that with the park dedication fee
Staff felt that a recommendation fora 5-percent park dedication fee would be appropriate for this
case and is included in the resolution.
Director Ericson stated that easements would be dedicated associated with this subdivision and
reviewed with Council. He stated that there is an easement that runs through the property and is
identified as Tract B noting that it would be the larger of the two properties located on Fairchild
Avenue. He stated that there would be a five foot easement towards the back of the property that
would have to be vacated and would be done by ordinance subsequent to Council's action this
evening. He stated that the Planning Commission recommends approval of the request and there
is some research on park dedication fees that goes back to the year 2000 that should be helpful in
making a decision about this subdivision. He stated that Staff is recommending approval noting
that a house would remain on the property and would be close to the lot line. He explained that
they intend to eventually remove the house and replace it with two new homes but would like to
keep the house located on the property so that they can maintain services on the property. He
stated that the Planning Commission felt that it was reasonable to grant them cone-year
. extension in demolishing the home until the first new home is constructed. He stated that it is a
minor subdivision and does not require a public hearing but they did send notices to the property
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owners in the immediate area in an effort to maintain good communication with the residents so
that they are aware of what is happening within the community.
Mayor Many stated that he thought it was a bit odd noting that he had never seen Ordinance 745
Park Dedication Fees ever included in their packets before and asked if it had already been
questioned at the Planning Commission level with the intent to appeal the fee.
Director Ericson explained that it was pointed out to the applicants that they could appeal and it
is an ability that they have by virtue of recent statutory changes. He stated that in communicating
the 5-percent fee the applicants agreed that this would be much more reasonable. He explained
that the ordinance was provided along with the research as additional information for Council to
review.
Mayor Marty noted that in the past it was always 10-percent and asked if this is the first one that
would not be 10-percent.
Director Ericson confirmed that this is the first minor subdivision that could be open to whatever
Council felt would be appropriate up to 10-percent. He stated that in previous years the City
code indicated that a minor subdivision that is less than one-acre would be 5-percent adding that
there is no longer any such delineation as to the level of park dedication fee, it just needs to be
appropriate and reasonable based on the City Council's determination.
• Council Member Stigney referenced the list provided on the park dedication and asked how it
differs from the top one on the list, which had minor subdivision into two lots from three and
now they are going one into three and they were paying $5,670 at 10-percent.
Director Ericson stated that the 10-percent park dedication fee is what was originally done and
they are now recommending to Council that it be a 5-percent dedication fee consistent with all of
the previous minor subdivisions approved by the City.
MOTION/SECOND. Thomas/Gunn To Approve Resolution 6589 Approving a Minor
Subdivision of 2812 Sherwood Road and 8084 Fairchild Avenue and waive the reading.
Ayes-5 Nays-0 Motion carried.
H. Resolution 6599 Approving a Charitable Gambling Permit to conduct
excluded Bingo for the 2005 Festival in the Park in Mounds View.
Administrative Assistant Crane stated this is to request approval of the charitable gambling
permit to conduct excluded bingo for the 2005 Festival in the Park in Mounds View. She
indicated that she had provided the Council with a copy of the request for their review noting that
Staff is recommending approval of Resolution 6599.
MOTION/SECOND. Thomas/Stigney. To Approve Resolution 6599 Approving a Charitable
Gambling Permit to conduct excluded Bingo for the 2005 Festival in the Park in Mounds View
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Ayes-5 Nays-0 Motion carried.
9. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Licenses for Approval.
B. Set a Public Hearing for 7:05 p.m., Monday, August 22, 2005 to Consider the
PUD Amendment for SYSCO Minnesota to Expand their Facility.
C. Set a Public Hearing for 7:10 p.m., Monday, August 22, 2005, to Consider the
Comprehensive Plan Amendment for the SYSCO Minnesota Facility
Expansion.
D. Set a Public Hearing for 7:15 p.m., Monday, August 22, 2005. to Consider the
General Concept Plan of the Medtronic PUD.
E. Resolution 6598 Accepting and Approving the Donation and Distribution of
Bethlehem Baptist Church Community Donation.
F. Set a Public Hearing for 7:20 p.m., Monday, August 22, 2005, to Consider
Resolution 6594, A Resolution Approving the Removal of Certain Parcels
from the EDA's Tax Increment Financing District No. 3 and Approving the
Tax Increment Financing Plan Establishing Tax Increment Finance (TIF)
District No. 5, aSpecial-Legislation Economic Development District, within
the Redevelopment Project Area.
• G. Set a Public Hearing for 7:25 p.m., Monday, August 22, 2005, to Consider
Resolution 6600, a Transfer of Ownership of an On-Sale Intoxicating Liquor
License for Jake's Sports Cafe located at 2400 Highway 10 due to a Transfer
of Ownership from Mounds View Jake's Inc., to Stuart Thomas.
H. Set a Special Work Session for Monday, August 15, 2005 at 7:00 p.m. to
Discuss the City Budget and Set an Executive Session immediately after the
August 22°d Special Work Session to discuss the City Administrator's
Annual Performance Review.
MOTION/SECOND. Gunn/Flaherty To Approve the Consent Agenda as presented.
Ayes-5
Nays-0
Motion carried.
10. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
A. Minutes for the July lltb and July 25, 2005 City Council meetings will be
approved at the next City Council Meeting.
11. REPORTS
A. Reports of Mayor and Council
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• Council Member Gunn reviewed the Festival in the Park schedule with the Council. She stated
that the golf tournament is scheduled for August 20, 2005 and anyone interested in signing up
can do so at the golf course. She stated that Bingo is scheduled to begin at noon adding that they
would also have strolling jugglers wandering the park throughout the day. She noted that the
jugglers would also be involved in the parade and would be offering lessons to anyone interested
in learning the art of juggling. She stated that a Battle of the Bands is also scheduled and
encouraged teens with bands to sign up for the competition. She stated that the band scheduled
for the evening entertainment would be the Rocking Daddy and the Rough Cuts, which was the
blues band that played last year. She stated that Saturn of St. Paul in Mounds View would be
sponsoring the dance. She stated that there would be plenty of food vendors and the Bethlehem
Baptist Church is bringing in a lot of items of the children to play on noting that the fireworks
would be sponsored by Medtronic and is scheduled to begin at 10:00 p.m. She stated that local
businesses have really stepped up to the plate this year in their support of the festival and thanked
them for all of their support. She stated that the parade is scheduled to begin at 3:00 p.m. adding
that the route would begin along Bronson, go up Edgewood, east on County Road I, south on
Quincy and ending again on Bronson. She stated that they have a lot of fun events planned this
year and encouraged everyone to come out and join in the fun.
Council Member Gunn stated that she watched the last Planning Commission meeting and was
quite upset with one of the Planning Commissioners for insulting City Staff and calling the City
Council and Staff lazy. She stated that this is totally unacceptable as the Planning Commission
represents the City and should show more respect and support. She acknowledged that everyone
• has a right to their opinion but there is a time and a place for expressing their opinions and this
was not one of those times. She stated that staff works very hard adding that she is very proud of
the work they do. She stated that she felt that something should be done or said, as this was
totally uncalled for.
Council Member Stigney stated that he also watched the meeting and expressed his agreement
with Council Member Gunn. He stated that the attack on City Staff is uncalled for and to take it
further, they were basing their votes on a personal belief rather than on a charter of what they
were hired to do. He stated that if they don't know their duty and the tasks they are assigned to
handle then they should be covered on the expectations of their position with the Commission.
He stated that Director Ericson did a good job of explaining noting that it fell on deaf ears or they
just had a Planning Commission that did not want to hear what he had to say. He stated that their
actions should be based on something other than their own personal views.
Council Member Thomas agreed stating that she too was very disappointed. She stated that she
has been one to go publicly on the record each time they have had a question and she has
ultimately supported the recommendations of our Commissions because that is what they are
there for, noting that there were so many public .statements made at that meeting that were
blatantly in opposition to the topic at hand and it does color for her how she will accept a
recommendation from them. She stated that it does change how she views their
recommendation.
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Mayor Many stated that he would like to thank the Planning Commission noting that they do a
lot of work for the City and saved the City Council countless hours. He stated that these are
dedicated individuals who do this on a volunteer basis. He noted that there was one comment
concerning TIF that Staff likes it because it lets them be lazy. He stated that the comment didn't
make sense to him and he did not understand where the comment came from. He agreed that
people are entitled to their opinion but the Council does ask that if they do serve on a
Commission that they try to fulfill the duties and responsibilities of that Commission. He stated
that any citizen is welcome to come before the Council to speak on any issue at any time. He
stated that the Council has an open forum at the beginning of every Council meeting and work
session and asked them not to use their position on a Commission to try and pass on personal
views. He stated that all citizens are welcome to attend a Council meeting to express their views.
He stated that he thought Director Ericson's explanation was very good as to the duties and
responsibilities of the Commission. He noted that there have been times on the Council where
particular votes have not gone the way everyone would have liked stating that they are charged
with working for the City and working for the Citizens and you play with the hand you are dealt.
He stated that there is a time and place to get up on your soap box adding that he would like all
of the volunteers throughout the City who serve on Commissions to try and keep this in
perspective and serve the Commission you are on with truth.
Council Member Flaherty agreed with the Mayor and Council Members. He asked Staff to
provide Council with an update on what is going to be happening with respect to the upgrades
and improvements for the filling station located on Highway 10 and County Road H2. He stated
• that he has also had several requests from citizens at the senior citizen's home regarding the of a
crosswalk near the senior home. He noted that it is a County Road adding that Tim Pittman
checked on the possibilities of the County doing the job and found out that the project is not even
on their radar. He asked if the City would want to go ahead with the expenditures and install the
crosswalks. He stated that the City has identified the need for four crosswalks along County
Road I noting that there is a large group of senior citizens that use these crosswalks and the
question was asked if the City would be interested in going ahead and doing the crosswalks for
the safety of the citizens.
Mayor Marty stated that this. is a good question noting that often times through the year the City
has various organizations that would be interested in working on a project like this. He stated
that if anyone is watching and would like to volunteer the time, the City could block off the area
and provide the paint.
Council Member Flaherty stated that the templates are ready to go as they have been out working
on other street improvements and crosswalks.
Mayor Marty thanked everyone attending the Neighborhood Night Out celebrations last Tuesday.
He stated that it was a huge success noting that he was able to get to several of the block parties.
He stated that all of the parties he attended were a big success and commended everyone in the
City for participating.
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• Council Member Gunn thanked the Fire Department and the Police Department for their
participation in the celebrations and she also thanked the Fire Department for bringing out their
trucks as a part of the celebration. She. stated that the citizens really enjoyed it.
Mayor Marry stated that he and City Administrator Ulrich attended the Quad Cities Mayor's
Organization meeting held in Arden Hills. He explained that the various Cities provided reports
on what was going on in their respective Cities noting that everyone wanted to know about
Medtronic. He stated that they also discussed the TCAAP property in Arden Hills, Lexington
Avenue improvements in Shoreview and New Brighton wants to move along with getting
Highway 96 repaired at Old Highway 8 noting that they are still in negotiations with the asphalt
plant. He stated that the Post Office that serves Mounds View is moving to 35W and County
Road D. He stated that it would be a 24-hour facility, which would be automated and open 24-
hours.
City Administrator Ulrich further clarified that it would be more of a retail store noting that
currently there is a trucking operation located there that would be moved to a site further south in
New Brighton. He stated that Shoreview is going to the single-source recycling for their entire
City with Waste Management. He stated that jointly the four communities are looking at doing a
single garbage contract for all of the municipal buildings. He explained that they are considering
bidding it out as a contract for all four cities that would service the City Halls, Community
Centers, Police and Fire Departments, noting that it might save the Cities a little bit of money.
• City Administrator Ulrich stated that they also discussed the consolidated dispatch issues. He
explained that a group of City Managers in suburban Ramsey County got together and drafted a
letter that went to Mayor Gertz in St. Anthony who is working with the Policy Committee on
consolidated dispatch. He explained that the letter outlines the position for the suburban
communities noting that the big issue is the fact that St. Paul is able to move off much of their
costs through a County levy and the County taxpayer ends up paying a lot more. He stated that
St. Paul has approximately 70-percent of the combined dispatch calls for the combined service
and they are only paying for approximately 45-percent of the costs. He explained that what they
did was outlined the principles about consolidating dispatch and acknowledged that they agree
with the principles but the funding formula does need some work. He stated that they reviewed a
formula based on calls for service as well as tax base and the ability to pay. He stated that they
are trying to work this together so that there is more equity in how the funding is arrived at and
hopefully the County Commissioners will heed their suggestions and come up with a better
formula.
B. Staff
City Administrator Ulrich stated that a letter from Innovative Images was included for their
review noting that it would be forwarded to the City Attorney for his response. He asked the
Council for their feedback noting that the City's response is due back by September 5th adding
that it would be brought to the next City Council meeting for consideration and approval.
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• City Administrator Ulrich stated that the City of New Brighton has agreed to allow the City of
Mounds View to hold their City Council and Commission meetings at the New Brighton City
Hall beginning in October. He stated that Staff would work out the details and update Council.
Mayor Marry noted that there might be a couple of conflicts with the schedules. He stated that he
had contacted Steve Larson, the Mayor of New Brighton, to talk to him about the stop light at
County Road H and Silver Lake Road. He stated that they were going to try and talk to the
County to determine if they would need a letter from the Council or a resolution to try and get the
stoplight included back into their budget. He stated that it was also suggested to possibly use TIF
funds with them paying the City back in a year or two. He stated that Mayor Larson agreed that
it was good idea to try and get the light installed noting that he was also going to meet with
Commissioner Jan Weisner this week and would also mention it to her.
Director Ericson stated that he is happy to announce that the Mounds View City Codes are now
available on the City website. He stated that it is not interactive and does have some limitations
but it is broken out with enough detail that a reasonable search can be done.
Director Ericson provided the Council with an update on the Planning Associate position noting
that they received twenty applications and the period end date was Friday. He stated that Staff
plans to review the applications and set up the respective interviews for next week. He stated
that he does not think that they would have anyone ready for Council consideration at the August
meetings but they do plan to have something ready in time for the first meeting in September.
• Director Ericson referenced the Sn der's develo ment notin that the Gas for Less building is
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gone and it is going to be a nice change of pace. He noted that during the course of their work on
the site it was discovered that they had parked their construction trailer on City land. He stated
that the City has indicated that the construction trailer cannot be located there and they did stop
in today and asked him to ask Council if it would be ok for them to park their construction trailer
there for a period of three months. He explained that they do plan on restoring the ground and
there wouldn't be any issues with the condition of the site once they pull the trailer out. He
stated that they could live with the trailer being on their location but it would necessitate several
moves as they develop different areas within the site. He stated that this would be much more
convenient for them and it could be written into the development agreement that the City is held
harmless, there is no liability, they assume all risks and responsibility, the re-vegetate the site and
restore it to it's original condition. He stated that if Council is not in agreement with this he
would communicate it to them tomorrow that they would have to remove their trailer.
Mayor Marty asked City Administrator Ulrich for his opinion on this.
City Administration Ulrich stated that he does not see any problems with it as long as they can
cover the development agreement so that they can get the restoration done.
Council Member Gunn stated that one of the concerns is because the irrigation lines run through
the area.
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Council Member Thomas agreed stating that she does have some significant concerns on both of
the scores and asked that it being included.
C. Reports of City Attorney
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None.
12. Neat Council Work Session: Special, August 15, 2005 at 7:00 p.m.
Nezt Council Meeting: Monday, August 22, 2005 at 7:00 p.m.
13. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION/SECOND. Adjourn the City Council Meeting of August 8, 2005, by consensus at
10:25 p.m.
Ayes-5
Nays-0
Motion carried.
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