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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 2008/11/10PROCEEDINGS OF THE MOUNDS VIEW CITY COUNCIL CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW RAMSEY COUNTY, MINNESOTA egular Meeting November 10, 2008 Mounds View City Hall 2401 Highway 10, Mounds View, MN 55112 7:00 P.M. 1. MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER 2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 3. ROLL CALL: Marry, Stigney, Hull, Flaherty, and Mueller NOT PRESENT: None. 4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA A. Monday, November 10, 2008, City Council Agenda MOTION/SECOND: Mueller/Hull. To Approve the Monday, November 10, 2008 Agenda as Presented. Ayes - 5 5. PUBLIC INPUT There were no public comments. Nays - 0 Motion carried. 6. SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS A. Resolution 7351, Canvassing the November 4, 2008 City Election Assistant Clerk Administrator Crane reviewed the results of the November 4, 2008 City Election. MOTION/SECOND: Mueiler/Hull. To Waive the Reading and Approve Resolution 7351, Canvassing the November 4, 2008 City Election. Mayor Marty thanked Staff for all of the work involved with elections. Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried. Mounds View City Council November 10, 2008 Regular Meeting Page 2 • 7. COUNCIL BUSINESS A. Public Meeting to Discuss Parking Issues at Hillview Park. Clerk Administrator Ericson noted that this meeting was set to take public comment on parking issues at Hillview Park. The Park and Recreation Commission has expressed concern with the encroachment of parking into the park area. Staff notified 55 properties, the Streets and Utilities Task Force, and the Park and Recreation Commission about the meeting. Josie Warren of 8044 Greenwood Drive said that she has lived here since 1977 and she is in favor of the proposal to provide additional parking for Hillview Park. She then said that the City began upgrading park buildings including Hillview and, she questioned the cost of that building and was told that it was needed to provide a neighborhood gathering space and promote park use. Hillview Park does not have adequate parking for the new building. Russ Warren of 8044 Greenwood Drive said that with the parking on Hillview. He is not that concerned about the number but, if the park building is to be an attraction to residents, then the parking is needed. He then said that he is more concerned about Greenwood because he drives the street between 5:00 and 8:00 p.m. and he would like to consider indenting the parking that would leave more space between the driver and the people walking. Mr. Warren indicated that he does not feel that if this is done here, that it has to be done in other locations, however, it • would have to be looked at for other locations. Valerie Amundsen, 3048 Bronson Drive said that she is on the Streets Committee and she did read over the document that the Parks Commission submitted and wanted to comment. The recommendation of the Streets Committee came because there was information submitted that there was a parking need that was not being met. Ms. Amundsen said that if the City decided to spend park funds on this facility then the parking should be provided to support it. The Committee is trying to make sure that the nine years of streets get done. She was the person who suggested using some of the park dedication funds because there were funds that were to be used for the other trail and that was her thinking. Gerald Arel of 7750 Greenwood Drive said that he is a Park Commission member and a member of the baseball league who uses the park. The Park Commission had a number of reasons for its recommendation against the proposed parking on Greenwood and Hillview. He then said that safety is a number one concern. Mr. Arel said that he feels that this parking would have a cost to the park in terms of safety and that is why they have recommended against it. Mayor Marty said that he has coached since T-ball and Gerry does come out and tours the games as they go onto see how things are going. He then said that the most active use of that park in his opinion, is the baseball. Mounds View City Council November 10, 200$ Regular Meeting Page 3 • Sherry Gunn, 5459 Landmark Circle suggested moving the parking stalls away from the playground if there is going to be angled parking. She then said that she is concerned about angled parking and vehicle u-turns. Jim Kavanaugh said that additional parking is needed so that people do not have to park in the neighborhoods. There are no sidewalks and that forces people to walk in the street to get to the park. His recommendation would be to approve the plan as recommended by the Streets and Utilities Committee. Cindy Palm of 2266 Terrace Drive said that there are a few homes near the park but she feels that this could be solved by opening this up for parking on both sides of the street. She then said that she does not think that this is cost effective or necessary when parking is available on the street already if it is opened up to allow parking. Jerry Kunz, Chair of Park Commission, said that the thing that got his attention is the price tag for this. Changing from parallel to angled costs $71,000 and only gains the City 10 spots. He then said that he feels this is not the best use of the City's resources. Council Member Mueller said she has never coached but she uses the parks. She then said that there are usually 15 kids for one team so that is 30 kids, and 3 coaches so that is about 30 cars at the park for that time and there are about 15 parallel parking spots along Hillview. Random Park • has its own parking lot, which is a good thing. She then said that she does not like the price but she does know that the streets being put in will make it more difficult for parking to carry on as it is because they will not be able to pull onto the boulevard with the barrier curb. Council Member Mueller said that she feels that the parking as proposed is needed for the future. Council Member Flaherty further stated he feels that the funding comes out of streets and utilities and not park dedication fees. He then said that he is concerned about the parking in that area but how to accomplish it is the question. Council Member Flaherty said that the bump out on Greenwood does not make sense to him as you lose two spots. Council Member Flaherty said that it concerns him that people would be turning around in residence driveways to park on Hillview. He then suggested a parking lot next to the hockey rink or removal of the hockey rink to add a parking lot. Council Member Hull indicated that he is leaning toward Option 1 with keeping Greenwood as it is as he feels that is the most cost efficient way to accommodate parking with the lowest cost. Mayor Marty thanked everyone for their input. He then said that cutting 15 feet off of the area behind the backstop would further congest the area where the spectators sit and the pitchers Mounds View City Council November 10, 2008 Regular Meeting Page 4 . warm up. He further said that he does not think that angled parking should be used there nor does he feel that a bump out is necessary. Mayor Marry said that he feels that Option 1 with angled parking on the east side of Hillview with angled parking up near the park building seems to make the most sense. Mayor Many suggested allowing parking on both sides of the street from May through August from 1:00 to 9:00 p.m. Clerk Administrator Ericson said that he would research the reason the no parking was specified and bring that information back to Council. He then suggested considering straight in stalls rather than angled parking as that would allow for three more stalls. Joe Rhein, city Engineer from Bonestroo, indicated that straight in parking requires six additional feet of length. He then said that the Parks Supervisor has recommended Option 1. Dale Aukee, of 2458 Sherwood Road, said that there would need to be some access on the west side of Hillview building for flooding of the ice rink because with the barrier curb the vehicles would not be able to drive over the curb. Council Member Flaherty said that, if no one wants to discuss a parking lot, then his preferred • option would be Option 1. He then said that he wants to make sure that City Staff has access to the park for whatever purpose so a curb cut of some sort will be needed. Mayor Marty indicated that the cost of asphalt has more than tripled. He then said that less asphalt is being created so there are asphalt shortage which means the price continues to go up. That means that the street project costs may have doubled or more. Council Member Stigney said that he would like to go with Option 1 for $28,700 whether there is a bituminous or concrete sidewalk should be dependent upon pricing. On Greenwood he said there should be no dollars spent for additional parking. John Kroeger, 8280 Pleasant View Drive, said that in looking at the information, the costs for parking spots is the same for both options and then asked what costs went into the $71,000 estimate. Joe Rhein indicated that the additional costs were for widening and bumping out the street. Mayor Marty asked whether there would be enough room for a parking lane. A resident commented that the road would be narrow without the bump out on Greenwood. Staff asked for direction on how to proceed with a Resolution for Council to consider. • Council Member Hull recommended Option 1 and asked Staff to prepare the information for consideration. Mounds View City Council November 10, 2008 Regular Meeting Page 5 Council Member Flaherty said that he does not want to give up two parking spaces so he does not agree with the bump out. He then said that he would agree with Option 1. Council Member Mueller said that she feels that Option 1 is a nice compromise and could agree to it. She then said that she is pleased that the street project will not have to purchase property for a pond. Mayor Marry agreed to the no bump out on Greenwood and to consider Option 1. He then said that he would like to consider parking on both sides of Hillview and asked Staff to provide historical information as to why the no parking was instituted. Jim Baffin, Streets and Utility Committee Member, asked Council to consider that if parking is allowed on Hillview, it is a major part of the pedestrian bike trail and taking out the biking trail eliminates options for bike lanes on Hillview. Council directed staff bring back a resolution amending Resolution 7307 to approve option 1 (15 stalls) on Hillview and no bump out on Greenwood Drive. B. Resolution 7352, Considering Appeals for the Stormwater Infiltration Program on the 2009-2010 Street and Utility Improvement Program. Clerk Administrator Ericson provided an overview of the appeals for Council and noted that Staff does not feel that the requests for appeal are justified and would recommend not allowing the exemption. Tom Winiecki of 2748 Sherwood Road said that the Council has decided against him again. He then said that he does not want a ditch in front of his house that is 75 feet long. He further asked why he is not allowed a vote in this matter. Mayor Marty indicated that the Council was elected by the residents to vote on their behalf. Council Member Flaherty explained that Mr. Winiecki had asked Council, by bringing in a bucket of asphalt, to fix his street. He then said that a task force was created and there has been a plan created and this is one of the details of the plan. Evelyn Pomper's daughter of 2600 Sherwood Road said that there was an offer to look at the sideyard on Greenwood and they would like the city to explore that option. Evelyn said that she is concerned about water in her basement if water is routed to her property for infiltration. Joe Rhein explained that the City is required to treat water with infiltration ponds in order to move forward with the street program. He then said that the forester did indicate that an infiltration feature could be constructed with no detriment to the tree but there is room in the sideyard to construct one as well. Mounds View City Council November 10, 2008 Regular Meeting Page 6 i Jim Kavanaugh, 7956 Red Oak, said that he has lived at his residence for 36 years and they are scheduled for a water garden but they look forward to it. He then said that Rice Creek does require that overall water needs to be handled, however, there is nothing that says it has to be in a certain location. There are people in the area that would be willing to have a garden rather than force it on those that do not want them. He then said that he feels it is poor public policy and bad community relations to force a rain garden on them when there are people willing to have them instead. Bob Glazer, member of the Streets and Utilities Committee provided photographs to the Council for review. He then said that he does not see how the rain gardens are going to work with barrier curbs. Joe Rhein indicated that moving one rain garden may require replacing it with two in another location. The rain gardens, as proposed, are designed to handle the required stormwater for this project. Valerie Amundsen said that this is the first of nine street projects so this establishes the city policy and practice going forward. She then said that if there is an appeals process available to people she would want to make sure that each individual case is heard and considered. She then said that this is a big deal to some people and she would hope that the City would take that into account. • Mayor Marry said that he would like to try working with the property owners in this case to come to agreement as best is possible. Council Member Mueller asked how many swale areas were identified. Joe Rhein indicated that there were 104 noticed. Council Member Flaherty commented that he was pleased that Ms. Pomper said that she did not like the rain garden in front and then asked if the City would consider using the sideyard because that shows that she is willing to work with the City. Council Member Hull asked whether the City would be liable for any water that fills a basement after the Swale is constructed. Joe Rhein explained that the Swale is designed to hold 12 inches of water and, if there is more than that, it backflows out to the street and flows down the street. MOTION/SECOND: Flaherty/Hull. To Waive the Reading and Approve Resolution 7352, Considering Appeals for the Stormwater Infiltration Program on the 2009-2010 Street and Utility Improvement Program as Amended to Move the Swale from the front Yard to the Sideyard. Council Member Stigney asked whether a sideyard swale would provide the same amount of water infiltration. Joe Rhein indicated that it should do so as long as the Swale will fit in the sideyard. Ayes - 4 Nays - 1(Mueller) Motion carried. Mounds View City Council November 10, 2008 Regular Meeting Page 7 • • C. Resolution 7353, Ordering the Public Improvement Project for Lake Court Drive and Lake Court Circle. Clerk Administrator Ericson reviewed the improvement project for Lake Court Drive and Lake Court Circle noting that the Association will agree to bring the streets up to City standards and the City will accept the streets. Council Member Flaherty said that he is concerned about the bid amounts and whether there would be any issue with the City incurring additional costs. He then said that he would approve of moving this forward but would like to wait on the street transfer agreement. Council Member Stigney said that in the Petition it says that the Association would have to pay $415,000 but the bids are not known at this time and that concerns him. Council Member Stigney indicated that he is concerned and would like the Attorney to look into this before anything is signed. Council Member Mueller said that she is concerned about Rice Creek requiring swales with this project because there is no public hearing on this project, because they have waived their right to one. She would want to know about the process if she had a swale coming to her yard. Staff amended the Resolution to note that the Council is receiving the petition and waiver agreement and not an acceptance until the language is clarified. MOTION/SECOND: Marty/Mueller. To Waive the Reading and Approve Resolution 7353, Ordering the Public Improvement Project for Lake Court Drive and Lake Court Circle as Amended. Ayes - 5 Nays-0 Motion carried. D. Second Reading and Adoption of Ordinance 804, an Ordinance Amending Title 1300, Flood Control Regulations, by Adding a New Chapter 1303 Entitled Construction Site and Land Disturbance Runoff Controls (ROLL CALL VOTE) Clerk Administrator Ericson reviewed the proposed Ordinance amendments. MOTION/SECOND: Stigney/Flaherty. To Extend the Meeting to 10:30 p.m. Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried. MOTION/SECOND: Marty/Mueller. To Waive the Reading and Adopt Ordinance 804, an Ordinance Amending Title 1300, Flood Control Regulations, by Adding a New Chapter 1303 Entitled Construction Site and Land Disturbance Runoff Controls. Mounds View City Council November 10, 2008 Regular Meeting Page 8 ROLL CALL: Mueller/Flaherty/Hu1UStigney/Marty. Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried. 8. CONSENT AGENDA A. Licenses for Approval B. Resolution 7350, Awarding a Contract for Required City Fire Services. !'' D..~..1..+..,.. 72GA +.. !'~....~..7...... 7 ., ., A........7.......+. >.+1. T.:.:.. l~:+...r lU....41. Mayor Marry removed Item C for discussion. MOTION/SECOND: Mueller/Hull. To Approve Consent Agenda Items A and B. Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried. C. Resolution 7354 to Consider a Lease Amendment with Twin Cities North Chamber of Commerce. Mayor Marty indicated that he would like to use a 3% inflation factor rather than a dollar amount increase in the lease. After discussion, Council agreed that no change was needed. MOTION/SECOND: Mariy/Mueller. To Waive the Reading and Approve Resolution 7354 to Consider a Lease Amendment with Twin Cities North Chamber of Commerce. Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried. 9. JUST AND CORRECT CLAIMS Council Member Flaherty, asked about Brian Rock Products. Clerk Administrator Ericson explained that this is an expenditure for gravel used on the trail in Greenfield Park. Council Member Flaherty asked about Commercial Asphalt Company and asked whether there was an increase. Clerk Administrator Ericson indicated that the cost has increased by approximately 100%. The issue is that they are using more of the petroleum product and there is less asphalt available leading to the price increase. Council Member Flaherty asked about the fiber optic cable to North St. Paul. Clerk Administrator Ericson confirmed that the work has been done. Council Member Mueller asked whether the rough sawn cedar was for sign posts. Clerk Administrator Ericson indicated he has asked and will report to Council when he receives an answer. Mounds View City Council November 10, 2008 Regular Meeting Page 9 • Council Member Mueller asked about the heating system issues. Clerk Administrator Ericson noted that there is an issue with the heating coils in the Council Chambers and there is some work involved in getting the air out of the heating lines. MOTION/SECOND: Mueller/Flaherty. To Approve Just and Correct Claims as presented. Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried. 10. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. September 8, 2008, City Council Minutes. Mayor Marty noted that changes were submitted to staff. MOTION/SECOND: Flaherty/Mueller. To Approve the Minutes of September 8, 2008 as Presented. Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried. B. September 22, 2008, City Council Minutes. Mayor Marty, Page 2, Line 16, insert "years before the golf course was ever sold" between approached and regarding. Line 28, "the other half goes into the general fund to assist with funding the operations of the City, and that franchise fee comes up every year in the budget process every year, and it will be up to each Council to determine whether to reduce it." Mayor Marty, Page 3, Line 11 insert "on this parcel". Line 27, after structure, add, "and that TIF had not been asked for." Council Member Mueller, Line 44, "correct vote". Page 7, Line 36, insert "resident" and if she would like two accesses or a horseshoe shaped driveway. Marty, Line 25, "insert he constructed on his property, was approved with the condition that there would be no second curb cut." Marty, Page 10, Line 3, remove hearing. Line 39, insert "in regards to Item H concerning the intersection of County Road 10 and County Road H Mayor Marty suggested working with Arden Hills cooperatively or with a letter of support." Council Member Mueller, Page 11, Item 5, response for Item 6 should be "this was confirmed by staff." Mayor Marry, Line 3, "this was confirmed by Staff'. Page 12, Line 44, "though the meetings may go long, all business in Mounds View is conducted publicly and before the cameras and is open to the public, and scratch out Mounds View." MOTION/SECOND: Marty/Mueller. To Approve the Minutes of September 22, 2008 as Amended. Mounds View City Council November 10, 2008 Regular Meeting Page 10 • Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried. C. November 3, 2008, Executive Session Minutes. Mayor Marty asked that the first contract offer be removed from the sentence. MOTION/SECOND: Mueller/Hull. To Approve the November 3, 2008, Executive Session Minutes as Amended. Clerk Administrator Ericson noted that there was a closed hearing and Council went into the closed session to discuss labor negotiations. Ayes - 5 Nays - 0 Motion carried. 11. REPORTS A. Reports of Mayor and Council Council Member Mueller indicated that there are two residents that have had serious injuries, and there is a spaghetti fundraiser at Abiding Savior for Pastor Geddi There is also a student that was injured in an accident, and there is a Caring Bridge website to view on progress. Any donations to her medical expenses would be greatly appreciated and accepted at Irondale High School. B. Reports of Staff Clerk Administrator Ericson noted that 283 surveys have been received as part of the branding process that is underway. Clerk Administrator Ericson noted that there was not a lot of participation in the fall clean up day and staff is looking at whether it is cost effective to have both spring and fall clean up days. Clerk Administrator Ericson noted that there are openings on the City's Commissions and Committees and applications are being accepted until December 1, 2008. Council Member Mueller asked whether there is an update on the Xcel Energy situation. Clerk Administrator Ericson noted that there is no update as of yet. Joe Rhein indicated that Ramsey County is okay with the traffic signal request of the City, but requires a study and the cost estimate for the study is approximately $3,000. Council Member Stigney indicated that he did not have enough information. Mounds View City Council November 10, 2008 Regular Meeting Page 11 C. Reports of City Attorney None. 12. Next Council Work Session: Next Council Meeting: Monday, December 1, 2008, at 6:00 p.m. Monday, November 24, 2008, at 7:00 p.m. 13. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at xxxx p.m. Transcribed by: Joan Lenzmeier Timesaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. •