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CITY OF MOUNDS VIEW
CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA SESSION
AUGUST 5, 1985
7:00 A.M.
1. Discussion with Members of Festivities Commission
Regarding 1985 Festival In The Park
2. Discussion of Gale/Yost Addition Improvements with
Representative of Property Owners
3. Presentation by Ery Herbst
4. Discussion of Superamerica Proposal for Major
Subdivision and Rezoning
5. Consideration of Staff Memorandum Regarding Code Review
6. Consideration of Staff Memorandum Regarding Revenue
Sharing Recommendations.
7. Consideration of Proposed 1985 Long —Term Financial Plan
B. Consideration of Staff Memorandum Regarding Letter from
Mr. and Mrs. Larry Roth, 5108 Sunnyside
9. Consideration of Staff Memorandum Regarding Street Signs
10. Consideration of Staff Memorandum Regarding Traffic
Controls
11. Consideration of Staff Memorandum Regarding Water Tower
No. 2
MEMO TO: MAYOR AND CITY COU
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FROM: CLERK-ADMINISTRAT
DATE: JULY 23, 1985
SUBJECT: 1986 REVENUE SHARING RECOMMENDATIONS
As you know, the Reagan Administration included in its FY 1986
budget proposal the elimination of funding for the last year of
the current three year authorization for Federal Revenue
Sharing. This proposal is currently being debated by both the
House of Representatives and the United States Senate and besides
there being disagreements in both Houses with respect to what to
do with Revenue Sharing, the Bills being considered by the two
Houses are in conflict with each other and more than likely a
conference committee will be appointed to resolve those
disagreements. Staff would anticipate that a resolution to the
Revenue Sharing issue will not occur until after. the City's 1986
budget is adopted which must occur no later than October 7th.
In reviewing the various options available to the City with
respect to the budgeting of Revenue Sharing, Finance Director
Brager and I agreed that the most conservative of the options
would be the preferred choice as any dependence upon part or all
of the Revenue Sharing allocation would place the City in a less
than acceptable or desireable position should Congress ultimate-
ly determine not to fund Revenue Sharing during 1986. Therefore,
it is the recommendation of Finance Director Brager and myself
that the City not budget the receipt of Revenue Sharing monies in
its fiscal year 1986 budget. We would, however, recommend that
the Council hold the required Revenue Sharing hearing which was
tentatively scheduled for 7:40 p.m. on the evening of September
9, 1985. The purpose of this hearing would be to receive public
input as to programs or projects to be funded by Revenue Sharing
should revenues be received. It would be Staff's position that
should Congress approve a partial or complete funding of Revenue
Sharing, as was done in 1985, the monies be used to finance a
portion of the Fire Department's contract costs and the General
Fund money freed up as a result of this be used for capital
expenditure purposes. As the budget would be adopted prior to
our determining whether or not Revenue Sharing money would be
available, any money freed up as a result of the receipt of
Revenue Sharing could be used to finance the purchase of those
capital items which could not be purchased as a result of revenue
limitations, to fund other activities determined appropriate by
the City Council, or designated as a carry-over into fiscal year
1987 for funding capital expenditures in that budget year.
RECOMMENDATION: Staff would recommend Council set a public
hearing for the Revenue Sharing budget for 7:40 p.m. on the
evening of September 9, 1985 and tentatively commit any Revenue
Sharing monies that might be received in fiscal year 1986 for
funding a portion of the Fire Department's contract costs.
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MEMO TO: Clerk -Administrator and City Council .(
FROM: Director of Public Works/Community Developmen /
DATE: July 26, 1985
SUBJECT: STREET SIGNS
Attached please find the following letters:
1. Mrs. Perleberg of 7801 Gloria Circle received July 11,
1985.
2. Mr. Michaele Reiter of 5359 St. Stephen Street received June
28, 1985.
Mrs. Perleberg requests the placement of a "dead end" sign on
Gloria Circle which is located in the western area of Mounds View
just north of Spring Lake. I talked to Mr. and Mrs. Murphey who
live at 7830 Gloria Circle to see if they would have any problem
with us installing a dead end sign in the boulevard of their yard.
They said that they would object to a sign post placed in their
boulevard, but they were agreeable to having a "dead end sign"
placed on the street name sign post which is located on the corner
of Hillview Road and Gloria Circle.
Mr. Reiter requests the placement of "no parking anytime" signs on
the north side of his property because people have been parking on
his grass and he suspects that they come from Landmark Estates and
the Bel Rae Ballroom. Staff thought that the owners of the
property at the intersection of Bronson Drive and St. Stephen
Street and Bronson Drive and Jackson Drive might want "no parking
anytime" signs on the north side of their property also. So, we
contacted them. Both of these property owners indicated that they
did not want "no parking anytime" signs on the north side of their
property.
RECOMMENDATION:
I recommend installing a "dead end" sign below the street name
Sign for the cul-de-sac known as Gloria Circle. I also recommend
be placed in the boulevard on the
that "no parking any time" signs
north side of Mr. Reiter's house at 5395 St. Stephen Street.
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n MEMO TO: Clerk -Administrator and City Council
FROM: Director of Public Works/Community Development
Police Chief
DATE: July 26, 1985
SUBJECT: TRAFFIC CONTROL
As you may recall, the City Council directed staff to analyze four
street intersections in the City of Mounds View and determine if
additional stop signs are needed. These intersections are as
follows:
1. Quincy Street and Oakwood Drive
2. Jackson Drive and Bronson Drive
3. Spring Lake Road and Ardan Avenue
4. Eastwood Road and Ardan Avenue
The Police Department conducted radar speed traps on the streets
near these intersections and reviewed the accident records for
these intersections. The speed traps did not turn up a large
percentage of speeders. The accident reports for these intersec-
tions indicated that there were two accidents at the intersection
of Jackson Drive and Bronson Drive this year and no accidents at
the other intersections. This information is from the 1984 and
1985 traffic accident data.
The Public Works Department conducted traffic counts on these
streets. A traffic count consists of placing a traffic counter at
the intersection for a two day period. The counter is read at the
beginning of the counting period, after 24 hours and then after 48
hours.
On Wednesday, June 12, 1985, a
Quincy Street at Oakwood Drive.
2,097 vehicles.
traffic counter was placed on
The A.D.T. for this location was
On Monday, June 10, 1985, a traffic counter was placed on Bronson
Drive west of Jackson Drive and at the same time another traffic
counter was placed on Jackson Drive north of Bronson Drive. The
traffic counter located on Bronson Drive west of Jackson Drive
counted 820 vehicles and the traffic counter on Jackson Drive north
of Bronson Drive counted 1,626 vehicles.
on Wednesday, July 10, 1985, a traffic counter was placed on Spring
Lake Road north of Ardan Avenue. The counter recorded 1,303
A.D.T. Since Spring Lake Road is a county road, they have traffic
counts from past years. The traffic counts for Spring Lake Road
from 1973 to 1983 are as follows:
Clerk -Administrator and City Council
Page Two of Four
July 26, 1985
1973
- 650
A.D.T
1975
- 400
A.D.T.
1977
- 550
A.D.T.
1979
- 700
A.D.T.
1981
- 700
A.D.T.
1983 -
900
A.D.T.
On Wednesday, June 12, 1985, a traffic counter was placed on
Eastwood Road at Ardan Avenue. The counter determined that the
A.D.T. was 362 vehicles.
Attached please find a copy of Chapter 68 of the City's
Comprehensive Land Use Plan that says "Traffic Volumes 1979". The
Traffic Volumes (A.D.T.) in the area of these intersections for
1983 are hand written next to the 1979 A.D.T.
Stops signs are presently located at these intersections as
follows:
1) Oakwood Drive stops at Quincy Street.
2) Jackson Drive stops at Bronson Drive.
3) Ardan Avenue stops at Spring Lake Road.
4) Ardan Avenue stops at Eastwood Road. '
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Are additional stops needed at these intersections? The answer
depends on numerous variables. The variables, criteria, or reasons
for installating a stop sign that I use are as follows:
1) Increased traffic.
2) High accident rate.
3) Large percentage of speeders on the street.
4) Intersection is near a park.
5) Long distance between existing stop sign.s
6) City desires to reduce traffic in a residential area (i.e.,
installating a stop sign and discouraging through traffic on
that street).
Let us examine each intersection and indicate the possible
solutions, discussion and recommendations.
1. QUINCY STREET AND OAKWOOD DRIVE
Possible Solutions:
1) Do nothing.
2) Create a four-way stop sign intersection.
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Clerk -Administrator and City Council
July 26, 1985
Page Three of Four
3) Remove the stop sigs from Oakwood Drive and place
them so that they stop traffic on Quincy Street and
allow traffic on Oakwood Drive to pass through.
Discussion and Recommendation:
After reviewing the criteria for installing a stop sign, the
only reason for installing a stop sign at this point is
because it is near a park that children use. A reason for
not installing a stop sign at this intersection is because
there is a very short distance between existing stop signs.
Unless there is additional justification presented for
providing a stop sign at this intersection, I recommend
Possible Solution #1 which is to do nothing.
2. JACKSON DRIVE AND BRONSON DRIVE
Possible Solutions:
1. Do nothing.
2. Install a four-way stop.
j 3. Stop the traffic on Bronson Drive instead of
on Jackson Drive and let the traffic on
Jackson Drive pass through.
Discussion and Recommendation:
After reviewing the criteria for installing a stop sign, the
reasons for installing a stop sign at this intersection
could be the long distance between exiting stops signs and
that the City desires to reduce traffic in this residential
area. I would like to say that two accidents in one year is
not considered a high accident rate by the Police Depart-
ment. A reason for not installing a stop sign on Bronson
Drive at Jackson Drive is that the distance between the two
existing stop signs is about one-half mile which is not any
longer than the long streets the City has in the north-
western area of Mounds View. I would also like to point out
that when a stop sign is installed, the traffic noise
usually increases in the area due to accelerating cars.
Without additional justification, installation of a stop
sign at this intersection is a toss up. If the City decides
to install a stop sign on Bronson Drive at Jackson Drive, I
recommend Possible Solution #2 which is to install a
four-way stop.
Clerk -Administrator and City Council
Page Four of Four
July 30, 1985
SPRING LAKE ROAD AND ARDAN AVENUE
Possible Solutions:
1. Since Spring Lake Road is a county road, the only way a
Lake Road is to
stop sign would be placed on Spring La
petition the county to install a stop sign or ask them
to analyze whether or not a stop sign should be placed
at this intersection.
4. EASTWOOD ROAD AND ARM AVENUE
Possible Solutions:
1. Do nothing
2. make a foul:, -way stop intersection.
3. Install a stop sign at Eastwood Road and remove the
one at Ardan Avenue.
Discussion and Recommendation: sin the
After reviewing the criteria for
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reasons for installing a stop int
include the long distance between existing s signs and
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area. The distance between stop probably the
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Eastwood Road is over one-half mile and is P
longest distance between stop sigCity trulydesires to reduce
street in mounds View. If the City recommend Possible
traffic on this residential street,
ke this intersection a four-way
Solution #2 which is to ma
stop.
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Police Chief Ramacher and I will be at the August r
Fleeting to discuss this memo with You- sign at these
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additional J lease let me know. If there is any
intersections, please would like to know
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MEMO TO: Clerk -Administrator and City Council �
FROM: Director of Public Works/Community Development/{u
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DATE: July 30, 1985
SUBJECT: WATER TOWER NO. 2 (WATER TOWER ON THE. SOUTH SIDE
OF THE CITY)
I. Problem Statement
On the coldest day of January, 1985, I noticed that some
paint peeled off of the south water tower. If the problem
was limited only to the peeling, I would have repainted the
peeled areas by now, but during my investigation I determined
that the new coating has poor adhesion to the old paint and
the old paint has poor adhesion to the steel.
II. Background
In 1970, this 500000 gallon water tower was constructed and
the original coat of paint was applied. As far as I can
determine, this is the only paint applied on the water tower.
In 1983, Toltz, King, Duvall and Anderson (T.K.D.A.) hired
Twin City Testing to inspect the water tower and report on
the tower's condition. Twin City Testing's report indicated
that the exterior coating system showed evidence of localized
breakdown and embrittlement on an estiCatede5 percent of the
steel surfaces. Therefore, T.K.D.A. p P plans
specifications for painting the water tower with complete
sandblasting on the 5 percent area that was in poor condition
and brush-off sandblasting for the rest of the tower. This
is a fairly standard specification for painting water towers.
In 1984, Odland Protective Coatings painted the water tower
using Silicone -Alkyd paint perthe specification for a cost of
$36,000.00. The paint contractor prepared the tank and
applied the paint per the specifications.
III. Discussion and Probable Cause of the Problem
Possible causes for the problem include the following:
1. Thermal expansion and contraction (i.e., cold
weather).
2. Bad batch of paint.
3. Poor paint preparation and/or application.
Clerk -Administrator and City Council
Page Three
July 30, 1985
V. Recommendation
I recommend sandblasting and repainting the whole exterior
surface of the tank because this procedure will solve the
coating problems.
Since there is no money in the 1985 budget for this work, and
$4,000.00 is not alot of money compared to $65,000.00 for
repainting the whole tank, the City may elect to repaint the
peeled off spots and hope that the low adhesion character-
istics of the paint on the rest of the tank will last for a
few years. This is a very logical position to take. I would
like you to know that the if you do choose Possible Solution
Y2, the paint on the tower that is adhering to the old paint
may peel off sooner than would normally be expected and the
tower would need to be painted again in the near future.
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April 17, 1984
Subject: Steel Water Siorage Tank Exterior Coating
Cold Weather I'op-Off
Gentlemen:
This past year a large part of the Central u. S. got a 30 - 40
degree below temperature shock in late December 1983.
Some newly painted water towers suffered what we have been
calling "cold weather pop -off". The finish paint and prior
coatings tend to delaminate from the steel substrate. It can,
however, break away from a layer of previous primer or aluminum
finish.
In the winter of 1981-82, we had a cold spell similar to what we
had in December of 1983. We knew of seven tanks in our area that
had popped paint within three days. Of that seven, five had l
Tnemec coating; two Tneme-Closs, two Spra-Sat, and one Endura- j
Shield. All the tanks had two things in common; all had been
repainted within two years and all had 10 plus mils of paint. Of
the five tanks we are aware of, they were repaired the following
way.
One tank at Devils Lake was touched up on the pop -off areas. No
reoccurrence has taken place this winter.
A tank at Mcorhead was so bad it had to be completely repainted.
It was sandblasted and recoated.
A tank here in the Twin Cities was touched up. A very few areas
popped off again this year, but not as serious as the first time.
The other two tanks that had Tnemec finishes were in the south
part of the State and as far as I know, a touch-up cured the
problem the first time with no reoccurrence this winter.
In the winter of 1983-84, there were a number of reported pop -
offs in Iowa and a few in Minnesota. In all of the pop -off
problems this year that we have been able to investigate, we find
the same set of conditions prevail; excessive mil thickness along
with recent recoat of the tank. There were two tanks this year
that failed through a previous aluminum coating.
ATTACHMENT N1 - PAGE 1
kling & associates 0 9142 davenport it. n.e. • minnespolis, minnesota 55434 9 (612) 786.8555
FM
April 17, 1984
Page No. 2
Ninety-five percent of the pop -offs we see on these water towers
are on the lower bowl areas. We know that on warm, humid days
condensation collects on the outside tank surface. This wet/dry
condition over several months of the year, along with a hot/cold
climate of the area, tend to leach out the flexibilizers in the
coating. When this happens, the coating becomes harder and more
brittle. In turn, the film gets stronger along the horizontal
plane. Cold temperatures are introduced and the paint separates
from the substrate. It will break on the paint's weakest bond.
Whether the paint shrinks slightly, or the steel tank, or both, I
do not know. One thing we do know, cold weather is the catalyst
for the phenomena.
In ninety percent of the pop -off problems we see, a simple touch-
up was all that was used to correct the problem. our weather in
December was every bit as cold this year as it was in January of
1981. If we were to have a continuing problem on the tanks that
gave us problems in '81, we would have known it by now. We feel
for the most part once a tank pops paint at 70 degrees below, the
process will not repeat itself, at least to any great extent.
Since we have had every generic type of coating "pop -off", we see
no correlation between the type of coating and the problem. Also,
all manufacturers have had this problem, as well as painting
contractors.
if all repainted elevated water towers with 10 dry mils popped
paint at JO - 40 degrees below, the answer to this problem would
be simple. The facts are that less than five percent of them
ever have a problem. This number will shrink even more in the
future since we are recommending the use of thin film finish
coatings, such as Tnemec Endura-Shield.
I guess the bottom line is that we probably should alert a
customer that insists on brightening up an existing coating that
this can happen, especially if there is already 10 dry mils of
existing coating on the surface.
Sincerely,
Von Kling
Kling S Associates, Inc.
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ATTACHMENT N1 - PAGE 2
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ENGINEERS ARCHITECTS PLANNERS
May 10, 1985
Mr, Steve Thatcher, P.E.
Director of Public Works/Community Development
City of Mounds View
2401 Highway 10
Mounds View, Minesota 55112
Re: Repel Ofng Water Storage Tank No. 2
Mounds View, Minnesota
Commission No. 8052
IOL12 KING DUVALL ANDERS
AND ASSOCIATES. INCORPORAI.
M1 ERICAN NATIONAL
ONA55101
BANK BUILDING
SAIN61249244DD
Dear Mr. Thatcher:
As a result of your Inquiry, and having rev lewed Mr. KII ngwe contacted the
letter regarding the occurence of cold weather pop -
off" 1
local representative for Koppers Paints to see If that firm has encountered '
the phenomena of which Mr. Kling writes. R.E. Mooney, Koppers
representative, claims that they have experienced only one occurence even
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effects were felt.
It Is also Interesting to consider that Kling's letter seems
emsto TanktNto 2,
problems with tanks having a heavy coating thickness; y your
if that Is where the problem Is occurring, has a total coating thickness of
only about 8.5 mils.
Fortunately, we have not previously experienced the pop -off phenomena at
any of our tank coating Jobs, so we cannot relate to It; however, we have
only recently opened -up our paint specifications to allow alternative
paints
rlcin . MaybeKoppers,
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recons der provide this moov Pifition and alternativetter
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coatings are experiencing more frequent problems.
We hope that this Information Is of some value. If we can be of further
assistance, please let us know.
Sincerely yours,
J. Thomas Kirk, P. E.
dTK.J ATTACHMENT N2
® ODLAND PROTECTIVE COATINGS, INC.
Sandblasting and Painting Contnlctors
3801.128th AVENUE, N.E.
MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55434
Telephone (612) 784.9433
June 12 1985
Mr. Steven Thatcher
2401 Highway 10
Mounds View, MN 55112
RE: Touch Up Paintin 500,000 Gallon Elevated Water Storage
Tank No. 2
Dear Mr. Thatcher:
Our Price for repairing small spots where paint is peeling off
the exterior surface of the tank is $4,250.00 (four thousand
two hundred fifty dollars and no cents). All work will be
performed in accordance with the original specifications for
the painting of this tank.
If you have any questions, Please feel free to call.
Sincerely,
Timothy R. Odland
Vice President
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