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• 1 the Council is not very comfortable with the only- center- which 2 remains and wants to get it- out ; .) 3` although it would be hard to-:get rid of . this arcade once it ' s in . 4 ' Apache, it might be a more positive,—step to. take to allow 5 another center , because "if we- close all their hangouts, where 6 are the teenagers going to go?" . 7 Mr. Cavanaugh responded that he knew a lot of the teenagers go to 8 Apache Mall , where the management from time to time has problems with 9 them congregating and smoking in the .. center court area and. has to 10 clear them out. He added that congregation of kids in fast food and 11 sit-down restaurants , amusement arcades , skate board areas , etc. are 12 just problems which "go with the territory" when you' re trying, to 13 manage a 530 , 000 square foot mall. 14 Mayor Asks for Better- Understanding of Both Positions 15 Mayor Sundland asked the applicants to understand and appreciate the 16 Council ' s position in the same manner as they expected the Council to 17 give a fair hearing- to their request. He pointed out that each of 18 the Councilmembers have personally had difficulties with a similar , 19 but perhaps different, establishment in St. Anthony which had 20 prompted their opposition to another establishment like it in the 21 City. His comments generated the following response: 022 Marks : reiterated that he would like to see something positive 23 done for the kids ; however , 24 indicated he had mixed feelings about this request him- 25 self ; 26 indicated' he wished he had visited more arcades prior to 27 the meeting to be better informed about the issue . 28 -Ranallo: said he had also been involved with the previous attempts 29 to establish youth. centers in the City and had concluded 30 "kids just don ' t grant to be supervised. " 31 32 Attorney Expands on Lecal Issues Involved 33 Mr . Soth reiterated that "the fact that the City Ordinance -says 34 amusement arcades -are- permitted uses in St. Anthony doesn' t mean the 35 Council can never deny such a request because they might find during 36 their considerations that there were good reasons to deny because 37 of an establishment ' s location . " He said in this case it had already 38 been mentioned that the proposed arcade was in close proximity to a 39 bar where adults coming out of the bar could easily mix with the 40 teenage people in the arcade . The Attorney said the City can' t say 41 it "doesn ' t want any amusement arcades at all" because they are 4) authorized in the Ordinance , but the Council is not obliged to ,43 approve this particular arcade as long as they enumerate the reasons 13