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1 Cavanaugh indicated the City would. probab-ly. .use. the .same reasoning. to '. <br /> 2 deny him a' liquor. license if he were to .apply for, one. <br /> 3 - Heilichtt- said- his'•type of arcade ..in no way- resembled the pool halls <br /> 4 .of the- -' 'past' because smoking, - gambling, and .-.- drinking are all <br /> 5 prohibited; <br /> 6 _- said his- managers -don,' t allow loitering in any . areas in which they <br /> 7 have jurisdiction.; <br /> 8 reported both the Northtown and Ridgedale arcades - are located in <br /> 9 : rather isolated areas which are similar to the - Apache . location.; <br /> 10 argued that the video games in his arcades are no different than the <br /> 11 games played on a computer at home. <br /> 12 Cavanaugh reported the bowling alley, which has been -at Apache Plaza <br /> 13 for 26 years, has 14 coin operated games in a room-where players can <br /> 14 both smoke and drink beer next to the kids playing the games; <br /> 15 <br /> 16 said Apache had ' stepped up its security whenever there had been <br /> 17 problems in that establishment, which was exactly what they would do <br /> 18 if there were - any lo-itering problems in the areas next to this <br /> 19 arcade; <br /> 20 reiterated that the mall has 24 hour security and the security <br /> 21 cruises-around , 'the mall every hour, on the hour, and would be <br /> 22 - certain to break up any congregation like the one which worries <br /> 23 Councilmember Marks. <br /> 24 Winstead perceived the problems the Council envisioned with 'the youth <br /> 25 smoking and using drugs: were also experienced - in the schools and <br /> 26 "you can' t- shut down the schools. " ; <br /> 27 said he perceived it was the City' s obligation to get a good use mix <br /> 28 for. the community, including a well supervised place for them to go; <br /> 29 thought it would be a "tough call" to legally uphold the findings <br /> 30 Councilmember Makowske had -mentioned which were based on <br /> 31 generalities; <br /> 32 said --he would. -like to see more of an "open mind" kept in regard to <br /> 33 this use and advised against a "head in the sand" routine where you. <br /> 34 ' decide something' s bad, therefore, it ought to . be eliminated <br /> 35 altogether; <br /> 36, reminded them that the precedent had already been set for the bowling <br /> 37 alley which is a commercial recreational use, similar, yet different, <br /> 38 from the use they were proposing. <br /> 39 Pink indicated 'he ' perceived -two' of- the Council ' s questions might not <br /> 40 have been properly answered; • <br /> 10 <br />