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1- for their denial. Mr. Soth .. indicated the issues identified as • 2 conditions for granting the request which are cited on the 3 application could' :-.be -used as findings as long as the..Council . is more . . . 4-.specific about the reasons they are- making those findings. 5 When Councilmember Ranallo asked whether the fact that the .residents 6 oppose any arcades in the City at all would be sufficient reason 7 for denying this request, the City Attorney told him "probably not" 8 because the.. ordinance already permits them. 9 Councilmembers Perceive Need .for First Hand Knowledge 10 The attorney' s advice resulted in the following response from . 11 Councilmember Marks: 12 indicated he perceived the Council was getting information from 13 differing sources ; including the report from the police officer 14 on -the Commission whose investigation had convinced .him there 15 are problems associated with all arcades including the establi- . 16 shments managed by the applicants followed by an opposing view 17 from American Amusement representatives; 18 said he for :one did not have enough knowledge of how these . 19 arcades are run when it came to disciplining kids , etc. and 20 would prefer tabling action on a final decision until the 21 Council has an opportunity to visit some arcades and see how.. 22 they are operated and get further information related to the 23 police perspective on this type of establishment. 24 Councilmembers Ranallo and Makowske indicated they concurred with 25 Councilmember Marks ' suggestion and Mayor Sundland agreed that no 26 matter how the final decision went, this would be the most reasonable 27 way for the Council to go. 28' Before- a -,motion to table was offered, Mr. Pink asked the 29 Councilmembers to ' remember, -as they view different types . of -arcades , 30 to distinguish between . those which, are contracted out where the 31 owners only service the equipment and the arcades for which American 32 Amusement is financially responsible and manages, services and 33 provides control. He pointed out that the arcade in the St. Anthony 34 Shopping Center is one which is ,contracted out where the manager ' s 35 greatest concern is to generate dollars. - Mr. Pink also said there 36 are "good -,and bad arcades . just . as there are good and bad liquor 37 stores, gas stations., . etc. " 38 Mr. Cavanaugh ' suggested- it might be difficult to make a long -term 39 decision based on the arcade ' s proximity to the liquor lounge since 40 he never, knew from .month to month whether the lounge would be 41 remaining. in Apache or whether the - City- . would be building another 42 one on another site. 14