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-3- lettering which the bank is requesting would add significantly to either the size or scope of the existing sign and it was his con- tention that the new message could also be considered a public service . Mayor: Sundland recalled how hard it had been to get the plans for the bank approved originally, especially for the sign which was non-con- forming even at that time, and, based on the information which had been made available to the Planning Commission, indicated he concurred with their recommendation for denial . He said he perceives there should be another means available to the bank to let the public know. the cash card machines are in the building, without increasing what is already a non-conforming sign. Councilman Marks remembered that both the proposed size and height of the sign had been cut down and the panel which depected an eagle, - the TCF symbol at that time , had been eliminated in the same sign area where the additional lettering is now requested. Mr. Shannon reiterated the same arguments which had been presented when the sign was first proposed, that the existing sign, in terms of overall size , is one of the smallest of 57 identifying signs TCF has in the metro- politan area and that the bank considers it very important to have uniformity of their sign message. When asked, Mrs . Makowske indicated she perceives a personal appearance by the proponents before the Commission might have been helpful and the Mayor suggested to Mr. Shannon that, if he thought he might have -additional information which would'"help his' cause, it might' be beneficial for him to attend the next Commission meeting to see if he could persuade the Commission members to modify their opposition somewhat. The Manager confirmed that the Sign Ordinance permits no monument signs ..in._a commercial area such as the bank' s in St. Anthony, but the bank is permitted 150 total square footage on the building itself . Motion by Councilman Enrooth and seconded by Councilman Marks to table action on the TCF request for additional signage at 3899 Silver Lake Road pending the appearance of the sign company representative before the Planning Commission at their next meeting . Motion carried unanimously. Chair Makowske indicated she appreciated the Council ' s concurrence with Commission recommendations regarding the last .two signs and hoped they would also find a basis for agreeing with them on the. Elmwood Lutheran .Church addition request. She read the Commission motion for denial but indicated she believed the sixth reason for denial , as stated,. should have been withdrawn because , after the vote was taken, it 'had- been disclosed that the sketches and plans submitted by the church trustee July .19th, but which -had not been available for the August 16th hearing, .should have been adequate for the existing stage of development.. She indicated she intends to - amend the August 16th minutes-- to reflect discussion on that point which followed the vote.