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• S 1 TB: That's a little below industry. As far as outlandish insurance benefits, right now 2 insurance costs for family coverage costs about $400 a month. We pay$255 towards 3 that, so an employee still has a large chunk of it coming from their check. 4 CR: I just wanted to point out on that particular item, insurance, private industry is now 5 starting to have the employees pay part of the premiums and it's something like 10 6 or 15% of the total premium which total premium's $400, 10% is $40 which is a lot 7 less than public. 8 TB: You know every time I get into salary negotiations with the three unions, they always 9 bring up the surrounding communities to us. A police officer, firefighter, make more 10 in every single city around us. The only reason 49'ers are equivalent is because we 11 did joint negotiation for years so that means that the 49'ers, in all the cities are the 12 same rate. We're not talking about a lot of money for the 49'ers. They're making 13 about $25-26 thousand a year. It's very difficult to negotiate with the police because, 14 yes, we're a first ring suburb, yes we have crime, yes we have all the same problems 15 that any other first ring suburb does, but no you're not going to make that kind of 16 money. It's been difficult, but we've held them back. St. Anthony has done 17 everything they can. We provide only the essential services, police, fire, public works. 18 When you get to it, internal fluff, if we have to cut fluff, it means people. What that 19 equates to is service. 0 —21 What is it going to mean to programs? The Mayor and I have talked just a little bit 22 about some of our programs, like certain programs either in police or fire are going 23 to fall by the wayside because we.just cannot take the time and resources to put on 24 certain.programs. Some of them are all dear to us. 25 DE: How about some specifics. The letter should indicate what some of those services 26 are which we will have to cut to try and live with this unrealistic proposal. 27 CR: Not that we are going to cut these, but I think these are some of the issues that we 28 should look at. We're not putting these in any priority, but one of the things is how 29 much money do we donate to Northwest Suburban Youth and Family Services? 30 TB: $51000. 31 CR: VillageFest? - We spend almost $5,000, with overtime for police, fire and public 32 works. We're going to have to look at more volunteers on that particular thing. 33 Another one is the D.A.R.E. program. 34 TB: We get donations to make supplies. We don't get donations to pay for the officer's 35 time. •