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r Planning Commission Meeting Minutes December 19, 2000 . • Page 4 1 Mr.Kalscheur pointed out the location of a two-lane drive-thru to the north side of the building that 2 would be used for drop off only. He noted this location should not impact the trees or view to the 3 _ residential area...He stated the west,side contains the loading and refuse storage areas. The refuse 4 area is screened by a matching brick screening wall. Mr. Kalscheur stated it was mentioned at the 5 neighborhood meeting that people have been seen digging in the garbage dumpsters so they will 6 assure it is a secured and well lit area. He stated it was also brought to their attention that residents 7 do not want too much lighting. Mr.Kalscheur stated they will reach an appropriate level of lighting 8 to assure safety while not creating too intense lighting. He noted the locations of the perimeter 9 shoebox style of lighting fixture which is the same fixture the City used farther north on Silver Lake 10 Road. He stated this type of lighting will not result in spill-over lighting outside of their site. Mr. 11 Kalscheur presented a picture of the interior site lighting fixtures which are felt to be more 12 aesthetically pleasing. 13 Thomas stated the Vernon style of lighting fixture was desired for the main thoroughfares of St. 14 Anthony,such as along Silver Lake Road. It is being proposed this type of lighting would be on the 15 bridge, however, a shoebox style of lighting is being proposed at the entry points.. Mr. Kalscheur 16 noted the Vernon style of lighting will be just off the property lines to assure the requirements of the 17 Zoning Ordinance on foot candles at the property line is met. • 18 Chair Bergstrom reviewed the areas where Ramsey County is placing Vernon lighting fixtures. He 19 stated the City requested to participate in doing an enhanced design of the bridge but he has not yet 20 seen those lighting fixtures. 21 Thomas stated the Vernon style of lighting was selected since it shines the majority of lighting 22 toward the ground and does not spill off the lot boundaries. He stated his preference, not use 23 shoebox style lighting fixtures at the entrance points since it may not match the lighting f fixtures for 24 the bridge. 25 Chair Bergstrom suggested Mr.Kalscheur talk about this with Mr.Hartman or Dan Soler of Ramsey 26 County. Mr. Kalscheur stated he did meet with Mr. Hartman who recommended these lighting 27 fixtures. He stated they will revisit this issue and would consider another alternative if it is found 28 to be better.' 29 Thomas asked if a barrier will be created around the retainage pond. Mr. Kalscheur stated the 30 retainage pond will have standing water so they will fence it. Chair Bergstrom noted the pond will 31 create 5:1 slopes. Mr. Kalscheur stated that is correct and they will have significant retaining walls 32 on the north and west property lines. 33 Chair Bergstrom asked if the north property line will be fenced. Mr. Kalscheur stated if there is a 34 significant drop in elevation from the retaining wall to the site, it will be fenced. • 35 Hanson asked if a loud speaker system will be needed at the drive-thru.Mr.Kalscheur explained the 36 outside lane.is intended for drop off only so they do not anticipate a loud speaker system. If one 37 were needed, it would be directed toward the railroad so it would not bother anyone.