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-7- who 7-who are , rather, "mostly from 19 to 25 years of age . Mr. Springfield insisted he could never make a .go of- it if he had to close at 9 :00 P.M. He also said, that since he anticipates he will draw the same type of customers to his St. Anthony establishment, .he resents the inference they would be "riff raff" . He operateson the principle that "people will hang out where they feel comfortable,, and .if you don' t want them, it's easy to make them uncomfortable" . Mr. Springfield said bowling alleys used to have the. same type. of reputation pool halls have now and he 's .doing :his best to change .this . He reiterated that Chief Nelson has never. indicated he has any problem with the Coon Rapids establish- ment and is certain. the police would let him know if people reported any complaints . Instead, ..many .people have made favorable comments about his business in the sixteen months he has been in Coon Rapids , accord- ing to the billiard/bar owner. Mrs . Lane' s question about how much a fourteen year old would spend was "a tough one" -for Mr. Springfield -because he said it would all depend on "how good the boy was . at playing the games" . However, he insisted most of his customers are young working .adults since most kids and people who are unemployed would not be able to afford the fees he has to charge for his games because of his high overhead. Other smaller operations , like the one in the St. Anthony shopping center, with more amusement devices , can probably charge less . The owner said a young man and his date could have -an enjoyable evening in the Coon Rapids Chick' s for around $6 . 00 . Mr. Springfield responded to one of the questions put to him by saying, "it is true , I don 't live near a • pool hall , but, I am very comfortable having my own children working in my business , even the late hours , although, of course , they are both college age" . This type of operation should generate less traffic than 'a grocery store,. and Mr. Springfield refutes the conclusion that, "it has to cause trouble" . He is convinced that the neighbors ' con- cerns "will go away once he is in operation" , and they will come to see his business as an asset, rather than a detriment, in the long run, because they will see for themselves he is not just a "quick buck operator" . Accompanying Mr. Springfield were his =attorney, Mark Gehan, West 1100 , First National Bank Building, St. Paul; Bob Rhodes ; William Miller; Dave Stahl; and Dick Schillinger. Mr. Miller said he operates the- Coon Rapids Karate Association .from the store next to Chick's and "would never have advertised cooperatively with Mr. Springfield if Chick' s had a bad reputation or was a hangout for ruffians" . He said he is usually at his school from .10 :00 A.M. to 10 :00 P .M. and has yet to 'see a brawl in Chick 's.. The. karate instructor then told about .the community oriented promotions- in which he and Mr. Springfield .have been involved. Mr. Stahl told .the Council he has been a bartender in Chick ' s since it opened. He works most of the late evening and weekend shifts and he has yet to have to "raise a fist" since he came to work there. He was anxious to clear up the misunderstanding about the "brawl" reported by a St. Anthony resident, which he assumes, was the family argument • between two brothers which occurred at 3 :20 A.M. one Saturday morning. He had observed that the two gentlemen sitting at the bar drinking coffee seemed to have had a death in the family and started discussing about some of the details . Mr. Stahl said five other gentlemen who knew one of the two walked in, and that brother punched the other; said,