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• 1 the Council is not very comfortable with the only center which <br /> 2 remains and wants to get it out; <br /> 3 although it would be hard to get rid of this arcade once it' s in <br /> 4 Apache, it might be a more positive step to take to allow <br /> 5 another center, because "if we close all their hangouts, where <br /> 6 are the teenagers going to go?" . <br /> 7 Mr. Cavanaugh responded that he knew a lot of the teenagers go to <br /> 8 Apache Mall, where the management from time to time has problems with <br /> 9 them congregating and smoking in the center court area and has to <br /> 10 clear them out. He added that congregation of kids in fast food and <br /> 11 sit-down restaurants, amusement arcades, skate board areas, etc. are <br /> 12 just problems which "go with the territory" when you' re trying to <br /> 13 manage a 530,000 square foot mall. <br /> 14 Mayor Asks for Better Understanding of Both Positions <br /> 15 Mayor Sundland asked the applicants to understand and appreciate the <br /> 16 Council' s position in the same manner as they expected the Council to <br /> 17 give a fair hearing to their request. He pointed out that each of <br /> 18 the Councilmembers have personally had difficulties with a similar, <br /> 19 but perhaps different, establishment in St. Anthony which had <br /> 20 prompted their opposition to another establishment like it in the <br /> 21 City. His comments generated the following response: <br /> 022 Marks: reiterated that he would like to see something positive <br /> 23 done for the kids; however, <br /> 24 indicated he had mixed feelings about this request him- <br /> 25 self; <br /> 26 indicated he wished he had visited more arcades prior to <br /> 27 the meeting to be better informed about the issue. <br /> 28 Ranallo: said he had also been involved with the previous attempts <br /> 29 to establish youth centers in the City and had concluded <br /> 30 "kids just don' t want to be supervised. " <br /> 31 <br /> 32 Attorney Expands on Legal Issues Involved <br /> 33 Mr. Soth reiterated that "the fact that the City Ordinance says <br /> 34 amusement arcades are permitted uses in St. Anthony doesn' t mean the <br /> 35 Council can never deny such a request because they might find during <br /> 36 their considerations that there were good reasons to deny because <br /> 37 of an establishment ' s location. " He said in this case it had already <br /> 38 been mentioned that the proposed arcade was in close proximity to a <br /> 39 bar where adults coming out of the bar could easily mix with the <br /> 40 teenage people in the arcade. The Attorney said the City can't say <br /> 41 it "doesn' t want any amusement arcades at all" because they are <br /> 42 authorized in the Ordinance, but the Council is not obliged to <br /> �43 approve this particular arcade as long as they enumerate the reasons <br /> 13 <br />