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-10- <br /> • 1 been permitted a pylon sign just because they had retained two gas pumps from the <br /> 2station which had previously operated on that site. Mr. Johnson said he didn't <br /> 3 think his business was that much different. He cited the need for more exposure <br /> 4because of a direct competition from both the Zantigo Restaurant and Amoco and <br /> 5said another City fast food establishment, Kentucky Fried Chicken, had a building <br /> 6 much closer to the street where it could be seen more easily than -his. <br /> 7 <br /> 8 Mr. Johnson stated that the Mobil station pylon sign next door visually blocked <br /> 9 his sign and he said he expected the view of any ground sign would also be <br /> 10 blocked by cars parked at the station. The restaurant owner told the Commissioners <br /> llhis existing roof sign which he now proposed to erect on a 20 foot pole was <br /> 12 actually smaller than he would be allowed under the ordinance. Mr. Johnson con- <br /> 13 eluded by saying he had always tried to be a good neighbor by keeping his property <br /> 14up, remodeling the restaurant, and cleaning the trash picked 'up. Mr. Childs said <br /> 15it was true that Hardees would be allowed 150 feet of wall signage but he told <br /> 16 the petitioner the Sign Ordinance does not allow any free standing signs for <br /> 17 commercial establishments, which is why even a ground sign of the same dimensions <br /> 18would require a variance. <br /> 19 <br /> 20 Chester, Krumm- of'the St. Anthony Townhomes across Silver Lake Road, indicated he <br /> 2 1 would like the Hardees sign to stay right where it was . However, he acknowledged <br /> 22 the Townhome Association had also been allowed a ground sign although it had taken <br /> 23 a good number of meetings before the sign was finally approved. He was told the <br /> 24 final product had been one which more closely resembled what the City wanted than <br /> 25 any other in St. Anthony. However, when Mr. Krumm was asked whether he opposed <br /> • 26 the sign, he offered no opposition.. <br /> 27 <br /> 2 8Commissioner Wagner told Mr. Johnson he was a regular Hardees customer and he <br /> 29 wasn't at all certain all the restaurant patrons were there because of last <br /> 30 moment decisions,, but, rather it might be more ;;:accurate to say one in ten customers <br /> 31hadn't planned to eat there in the first place. The Commissioner said he certainly <br /> 32 didn't think the gas station would offer any competition for the type of food <br /> 33 Hardees serves and he doubted that the Mobil - sign prevented drivers from seeing <br /> 34 the restaurant in time to stop if they wanted to. Commissioner Wagner said he <br /> 35 perceived there was little justification for a pylon sign in that location and, <br /> 36in his own opinion, a "classier, groundhugging sign would be just as effective" . <br /> 37 <br /> 38 The Chair agreed, saying there are residences across from the restaurant whose <br /> 39 owners might not want to look at a tall pylon sign from their windows. <br /> 40 <br /> 41 Commissioner Bowerman told the restaurant owners gas stations had been given the <br /> 4 2 privilege of- identifying their brand names on pylon signs long before he was on <br /> 4 3 the Planning. Commission, but he did not perceive they had been given the. right <br /> 44 to advertise the food they sold in the station in the same manner . <br /> 45 <br /> 46 The hearing was closed at 10:00 P.M. for the Commissioners to develop a recom- <br /> 4 7 mendation to the Council . During the process, Commissioner Madden disagreed with <br /> 48Commissioner Bjorklund's specifying the type of materials to be used in the planter <br /> 49 base, -saying there had been similar -signs' in the City which had not been con- <br /> 50 structed in the same manner. However; the Commissioner voted for the final motion <br /> 5 1 which contained that specification. <br /> ? • 52 <br /> 5 3 After the vote on the following was taken, Mr. Johnson thanked the Commissioners <br /> 54 and indicated he would have the architect draw up plans for the sign which he <br /> 55 would bring to Mr. Childs before the sign is installed in the spring : <br />
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