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-2- • 1 most shopping centers today offer a combination of recreational services like 2 bowling alleys and theaters along with retail and it seemed that combining 3 a charitable gambling facility with the existing bowling alley might attract 4 people to shop at the center. He indicated the center owners can control the 5 quality of the operation through the lease, which dictates the hours of operation 6 and signage. 7 g There would be 34,000 square feet of leasable space in the building after this 9 business goes in, Mr. Cavanaugh said, and he indicated he anticipated 17,000 10 square feet would be used in front of the building to be retail and the back 11 half might be developed for a more passive use like mini-warehouses. Neither 12 the proposed business or expected retail on the west side of the building should 13 in any way interfere with the new liquor store or the Country Store because 14 both entrances would be on the east side. And, Mr. Cavanaugh said, he understood 15 the liquor warehouse planned to reserve six parking stalls in front for quick 16 shopping trips. 17 18 Parking for the new facility should be no problem, Mr. Cavanaugh said, because 19 there are over 270 spaces available in front of the new facility, about 220 20 on the east side of the building, and over 60 next to the car wash on the west 21 side. 22 23 Maren Aipperspach of the March of Dimes Foundation saw the gambling proposition 24 as a good way of providing a regular cash flow for the organization rather 25 than to rely exclusively on unpredictable fund raisers. 26 27 Douglas Schmidt of Kimball , Minnesota, who said he is director of a very successful 28 bingo hall in St. Cloud told the Commissioners he had been authorized to represent 29 the Guadalupe Area Project. He told Commissioner Madden the reason they hadn't 30 just applied for a bingo license was because of state restrictions on charitable 31 gambling which allowed only 50% of the adjusted income from bingo, but 60% 32 for pull tabs, raffles, paddle wheels and tipboards. Only bingo, pull tabs 33 and raffles would be used at this location, he said. 34 35 Mr. Schmidt said it is "literally necessary" to have pull tabs to come under 36 the state restrictions because bingo alone would never support the 30 or 40 37 workers needed to run the bingo games and no additional workers are needed 38 to add the pull tab portion of the operation. 39 40 The fund raiser went on to say: 41 42 1 . 55% of their bingo customers in St. Cloud came from outside that City; 43 44 2. Most players were from 35 to 60 years old and seemed to like to play in a 45 non-alcoholic setting; 46 47 3. It is necessary to retain the poorly attended games to create an image of a 48 - profitable business and if you skip one night the customers become confused 49 about just when you're actually open; and 50 51 4. A good game in an environment like the building in St. Anthony would attract • 52 more people than a less expensive basement. 53 54 Mr. Schmidt said the figure of 200 which he had given Mr. Childs before the hear- 55 ing had only represented the number of people who could be expected to play on an