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-6- Chair Makowske then stated that *she perceives the question before the Commission should be whether or not the proposal meets all three con- ditions which Minnesota and City ordinances require must be satisfied before a conditional use permit can be authorized. There was a general consensus that the first and third questions could be answered af- firmatively by the applicants but there was a strong indication that the neighbors perceived some injury with the development of the proposal as requested. Commissioner Zawislak indicated he did not believe the proposed height of the addition would be out of line with those of other dwellings in the City residential districts . Commissioner Bjorklund suggested that if a poll were taken of those who were present in the room at that moment or to the zoning map on the wall, it would be apparent that almost 90 percent of the homes have much more than 40 feet of backyard for recreational ,' etc. purposes. He, therefore , said he believed the norm in this regard had been violated with this application and told Commissioner .Zawislak a 38 foot high building is the same as a three story building. Commissioner Bowerman indicated that, although he understood the congregation' s hesitancy .to expend money on a more specific plan at this stage, he was still concerned that the Commission was. forced to make a decision on what he perceives to be a very nebulous plan without positive site plans and no firm commitment about the landscaping, drainage , actual height of the addition, etc . for the proposal . Chair Makowske agreed, saying she would also like to see the window treatment which would provide privacy for the neighbors since there is a great deal of difference between having a family living next door and having a whole congregation viewing your backyard. Commissioner Bjorklund said he agreed with the neighbors that there had not been a true cost analysis made for siting the addition else- where on the property and made the following motion: Motion by Commissioner Bjorklund and seconded by Chair Makowske to recommend Council denial of the conditional use permit which would allow the Elmwood Lutheran Church to add on to the existing church structure at 3615 Chelmsford Road, finding that the second require- ment in the application that "The proposed conditional use will not be detrimental to the health, safety , or general welfare of persons residing or working in the vicinity or injurious to property values or improvements in the vicinity" could not be answered affirmatively for the following reasons : (1) Property values for at least two of the adjacent properties to the south could be adversely affected. (2) Plenty of available land now exists on the church site to accom- modate an addition which would provide all the current needs of the church without adversely. affecting the neighbors . •