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Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes <br />October 15, 2019 <br />Page 5 <br /> <br />intent was the City is going to create a clause allowing something in that space that City Code 1 <br />never allowed to happen before. He thought it was reasonable to suggest that the resident did 2 <br />not have unfettered right to do in that space and there are some constraints. He thought it was 3 <br />useful to have that cautionary clause. 4 <br /> 5 <br />Commissioner Westrick indicated she appreciated the language that was added for the reasons 6 <br />staff indicated. She noted she was concerned it would become over burdensome. 7 <br />Commissioner Socha indicated she was going to take the topic off the table and not propose 8 <br />that “reasonably” be added to the amendment. 9 <br /> 10 <br />Commissioner Rude thought the sentence could be changed to “Provided that the property 11 <br />owner meets the law in respect to drainage…”, somewhere along those lines so the City is not 12 <br />defining what the law is but indicating the City is not the arbitrator and to be aware of it. 13 <br />Chairperson Papatola indicated he would be more comfortable with something like that. 14 <br />Commissioner Neumann agreed. 15 <br /> 16 <br />Commissioner Socha suggested “The property owner controls drainage in a manner consistent 17 <br />with existing State and Municipal Law”. Commissioner Neumann thought Commissioner 18 <br />Rude’s suggestion was simpler. 19 <br /> 20 <br />Commissioner Westrick asked if most residents are going to know what “meets the law” 21 <br />means. Commissioner Rude assumed there were some State Statutes, but most is common 22 <br />law, meaning it has been established by judges in the courts over many years. 23 <br /> 24 <br />Commissioner Socha liked the idea of staying consistent but she liked the noted aspect of 25 <br />“controls drainage” versus “meets the law” which does not put people on much notice. She 26 <br />asked if the Commission would be ok to leave the sentence exactly has it is proposed to read 27 <br />“controls drainage impacting adjoining property in a manner consistent with existing law.” 28 <br /> 29 <br />City Planner Grittman indicated he was comfortable with that wording and provides the 30 <br />warning that was his original intent. 31 <br /> 32 <br />Chairperson Papatola referenced the sidewalk/walkway definition. Commissioner Rude noted 33 <br />in the packet there was site to the MN Statute 169.011 that defined pedestrian and wheelchair 34 <br />and he thought for clarity if there could be reference to a law that is statewide that judges can 35 <br />interpret and people have debated over, he tweaked the language a little bit to read more 36 <br />consistent with that definition. He proposed as an alternative to just site to that Statute instead 37 <br />of even putting it in the amendment. Chair Papatola indicated he would be in favor of putting 38 <br />in the language where someone could take a look at it as opposed to referencing it somewhere 39 <br />else. 40 <br /> 41 <br />Commissioner Rude indicated the one substantial change he added was “…being used by a 42 <br />disabled person” in the red part. Commissioner Neumann explained she would prefer “person 43 <br />with a disability”. Commissioner Socha indicated she preferred the language Commissioner 44 <br />Rude proposed which more closely mirrors the Statute because there is a time where this 45 <br />could be interpreted, and that interpretation could be used by the Planning Commission or 46
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