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Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes <br />May 17, 2022 <br />Page 4 <br />1 a single-family community. He believed that reducing the setbacks to that extent would be <br />2 the wrong way to go if the intention is to keep the housing stock valuable. <br />3 <br />4 Chair Socha recalled from previous discussions that the community is a suburb, and they have <br />5 smaller typical lot sizes that other suburbs. She asked if that is accurate. She noted that if the <br />6 lot sizes are smaller, there would seem to be a reason to preserve the greenspace that they <br />7 have. She asked if there are trends in surrounding cities to reduce setbacks to allow for <br />8 expansion. Mr. Grittman replied that Saint Anthony was developed with 8,000 to 9,000 <br />9 square foot lot size range, which is smaller than some of the other communities which he <br />10 believed use 10,000 to 11,000 during their main development period. He stated that there are <br />11 some other communities, such as Saint Louis Park, that have smaller lots of about 6,000 <br />12 square feet. He stated that 10,000 to 12,000 square foot lots become more common as the <br />13 legacy standard for second ring suburban areas. He commented that there is a trend in moving <br />14 that backward as developers continue to seek 60-foot lots, 7,000 to 8,000 square feet in size in <br />15 attempt to provide affordability to buyers. He referenced a recent conversation with a <br />16 developer proposing a project 25 miles from the metro that stated 65-foot lots are needed to <br />17 provide affordability and those homes still started at $450,000. He stated that many <br />18 communities are beginning to rethink setbacks, and some have considered allowing accessory <br />19 dwelling units. He noted that the Council has stated that it is not interested in pursuing <br />20 accessory dwelling units. He commented that many of the communities that developed in the <br />21 20s and 30s have struggled to find a way to keep their single-family neighborhoods vital, <br />22 noting that at some time there is a point where the housing stock needs to be updated and <br />23 invested in to suit the needs of families. <br />24 <br />25 Commissioner Erickson commented that it seems that Edina, Minneapolis, and Golden Valley <br />26 have perhaps changed their setbacks as he notices more older homes being torn down and new <br />27 homes constructed. He commented that his neighborhood was primarily constructed in the <br />28 60s and the homes are perhaps above the average square footage but are not large. He stated <br />29 that does not leave many options for younger families with more than two children and <br />30 therefore believes something should be done. He stated that the issue that would give him the <br />31 most pause would be the scenario related to the front setback as that would change the <br />32 character when driving down the street. He noted that he would be interested in obtaining <br />33 examples where that has been done. Mr. Grittman commented that he is confident that he <br />34 could find such examples to share. He agreed that there would be a visual impact to that <br />35 change. <br />36 <br />37 Chair Socha recalled a requirement related to average setback and asked if that would remain <br />38 or whether that would be changed as well. Mr. Grittman replied that if the front setback were <br />39 changed, that requirement would also need to be removed or changed. <br />40 <br />41 Commissioner Rude commented that if a home would be allowed to expand in the backyard, <br />42 he would want to see a height restriction to minimize impacts to neighboring properties. He <br />43 commented that the new generation does not have interest in yard work or gardens and <br />44 therefore there is a trend to have bigger homes on smaller lots. He was unsure if that would <br />45 be done through an addition but rather tearing down the home and building a new home on the
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