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Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes June 20, 2023 Page 5 1 Ms. Laura Mivas, lives in Legends, indicated she is a smoker. She hears the cars on Stinson 2 more than she ever hears the vacuums so the noise is not an issue. A cement wall would cause 3 an echo barrier. She noted he has made the property great with beautiful landscaping and 4 plantings around the vacuum would be better than a cement wall. 5 6 City Planner Grittman stated he received an email from Mr. TJ Heininger, 2407 39th Avenue 7 NE, expressing his support for the carwash as well complimenting the operator. He received 8 another phone call from an unidentified neighbor stating he was still in support of the 9 proposal. 10 11 Chair Socha asked Mr. Hernandez if he preferred a green wall as a barrier and asked if that 12 would be shrubs. Mr. Hernandez suggested arborvitae be used. Commissioner Erickson stated 13 arborvitaes would look nice aesthetically but only concern is the limited permanence with 14 plants rather than a structure. A wooden fence would be installed and the arborvitae would 15 block the fence. 16 17 Commissioner Morita stated he would be concerned there may be an echo with an enclosure. 18 He asked Mr. Grittman if it had to be a block enclosure. Mr. Grittman referred to the Code 19 that screening could be landscaping. 20 21 Commissioner Gaveske asked what type of wood fence was Mr. Hernandez considering. Mr. 22 Fiere showed a picture of the fence that was constructed in Blaine. 23 24 Commissioner Rude asked how tall is the equipment and how tall would the fence be. Mr. 25 Fiere stated it is a six foot fence. The fence could be constructed at least as high as the 26 equipment. The suction pipe would go over the fence to the arches. 27 28 Mr. Fiere asked if the Commission’s recommendation would be to show the parking, 29 landscaping and fencing on the site plan. Chair Socha asked if he would object to changing 30 the requirement for enclosure to a fence with landscaping. Mr. Hernandez stated that would 31 be fine. 32 33 Commissioner Rude stated the site is kept very nice. His one concern is that the business 34 could be sold and new owner may not maintain at the same level. He would like the fence to 35 be as high as the equipment to handle the visual aspect. In other communities the enclosures 36 need to match the building. He asked if the hours can be made a condition for the CUP. 37 38 Chair Socha stated a block fence would be more expensive and may produce an echo. 39 Commissioner Erickson stated he would support the idea of a block fence, there may be ways 40 of doing it to match the existing building. This is a permanent thing and other cities may be 41 more strict about having the structures match. He likes the idea of the concrete block but there 42 may be other ways to accommodate the same thing. 43 44 Chair Socha stated she likes the idea of a maintenance free fence and the addition of 45 greenspace. Commissioner Erickson stated he would be ok with that. Commissioner Rude 46 mentioned the height requirement. Chair Socha summarized to change #1 to have