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2 6 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2i 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 e- 4, 50 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes October 21, 2003 Page 6 comprehensive sign plan. She explained this is unfinished business from the September 16`h Public Hearing in the applicant's efforts to update their comprehensive sign plan. She noted the Shopping Center has been attending the Planning Commission and City Council meetings since August to address the need and implementation of logo signs. She noted the St. Anthony Shopping Center recently signed leases with two tenants that have regional and national scope, Bumper to Bumper and Subway. She explained that the current comprehensive sign plan does not provide sufficient flexibility of sign design to accommodate regional and national tenants that have logo signage for all locations. She reviewed stating that at the last Planning Commission meeting it was recommended to the City Council that yellow lettering be added into the comprehensive sign plan for approval to allow Subway to put up their sign adding that it was decided that the remaining issues surrounding the logos would be addressed at a future meeting once the applicant presented the City with proposed language. She reviewed the proposed language for the logo signage with the Commission. She noted several other issues that should be addressed stating that the Subway logo sign also includes white lettering and suggested that this color should be included into the sign criteria. She noted the temporary banner above the Bumper to Bumper appears to take up more than it's share of the wall and asked that this be reviewed. She noted that the El Ray Bakery has had a temporary sign for quite some time and that they have not pulled a sign permit yet. She asked what their plans are for permanent signage. She explained that the question for the Planning Commission is whether the proposed language for logo signage addresses the issues raised over the last couple of months. She suggested that the Planning Commission ensure that the parameters are in place to ensure consistency. Commissioner Tillman asked if specified height and percentage of space used in front was clarified in the proposal. Commissioner Stromgren noted the City Council objections had to do with the size. Ms. Hall suggested clarifying the size of the signage with Bumper to Bumper. Jim Crockeril Co -Owner -St. Anthony Shopping Center, LLC stated that he touched base with eleven of the fifteen tenants to determine whether there were any issues with the proposed language. He stated that no one had any issues. He reviewed, noting that 50% or less would be backlit signs adding that they are quite attractive. Chair Melsha asked if they expected any other large tenants besides Bumper to Bumper or Subway that could have logo issues. Mr. Crockeril clarified that typically the tenants are local merchants who do not have logos to display adding that he does not expect any other large tenants. Vice Chair Stille asked Mr. Crockeril if he brought any examples for the Commission to review. Mr. Crockeril stated that the examples had been provided in a previous package and that he did not have anything that has changed. Mr. Crockeril reviewed the comments from City Council regarding the backlighting in addition to Council concerns that the sign is inconsistent with the rest of the tenant. He explained that 50