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Home My WebLink AboutPL PACKET 11181997 Meeting Sheet IIIIII VIII VIII VIII VIII VIII IIII IIII 101478 Box: 20 Folder: PL PACKETS 1997 Documents PL PACKET 11181997 CITY OF ST. ANTHONY PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA NOVEMBER 18, 1997 7:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS I. CALL TO ORDER. 11. ROLL CALL. 111. APPROVAL OF NOVEMBER 18, 1997 PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. IV. APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 21, 1997 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES. V. DESIGNATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. VI. PUBLIC HEARING. - 1. 97-09 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT -- ST. CHARLES BORROMEO CHURCH. VII. NEW BUSINESS. 1.' PROPOSED REVISION OF SECTION 1400.16 ENFORCEMENT. VIII. CONCEPT REVIEW. 1. PROPOSED SIGN PLAN FOR NEW CITGO GAS STATION, 2400 - 37T,H AVENUE NE (FORMERLY STOP 'N GO). IX. OTHER BUSINESS. 1. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE PROCESS. 2. STATUS REPORTS RE: TASK FORCES. 3. COMMISSIONER INTERVIEWS. IX. COMMENTS. X. ADJOURNMENT. o I CITY OF ST. ANTHONY 2 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 3 OCTOBER 21, 1997 4 I. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: 5 The meeting was-called to order and the Pledge of Allegiance was led by Chair Bergstrom at 6 7:04 P.M. 7 111. ROLL CALL. 8 Commissioners present: Chair Bergstrom; Commissioners Delmonico, Franzese, 9 Gondorchin, Horst, Makowske (arrived at 7:06 P.M.), and 10 Thompson. 11 Commissioners absent: None. 12 Also present: Kim Moore-Sykes, Management Assistant. 13 III. APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 21, 1997 PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. 14 - Motion by Delmonico, seconded by Franzese, to approve the Planning Commission Agenda 15 for October 21, 1997 with the following change: 16 Under VII. Concept Review add: 2. Baker Associates, Inc., Stinson Boulevard and 33rd 17 Avenue NE. 18 Motion carried unanimously. 19 IV. APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 16, 1997 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 20 MINUTES. 21 Motion by Bergstrom, seconded by Makowske, to approve the September 16, 1997 Planning 22 Commission Meeting minutes with the following changes: 23 Page 2, Line 30: Replace "that" with "as if'. 24 Page 6, Line 6: Replace "requires a" with "allows a maximum of'. 25 Page 7, Line 18: After the word "District" replace text with "currently require the same 26 limits as the standard R-1 uses". 27 Page 7, Line 21: Replace "will" with "would". 28 29 Motion carried unanimously. 30 V. DESIGNATE PLANNING COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE FOR OCTOBER 28, 31 1997 COUNCIL MEETING. 32 Commissioner Horst was appointed as the Planning Commission representative for the 33 Tuesday, October 28, 1997, City Council meeting. 34 VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS - None. 35 VII. CONCEPT REVIEW. 36 1. Silver Lake Camp - Salvation Army Camp Lone Range Plan Review. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes October 21, 1997 Page 2 1 Ms. Moore-Sykes introduced Shawn McAlpine from the Salvation Army Silver Lake Camp 2 and stated he was present this evening to present changes to the camp's long range plan. The 3 camp is'proposing to demolish two buildings, construct a multi-purpose building and a storage 4 building for equipment. 5 Mr. McAlpine thanked the Planning Commission for the opportunity to appear and present an 6 overview of what is going on and what is proposed for the Silver Lake Camp. The camp has 7 hired a planning consultant and is in the process of updating their existing long range plan. 8 The removal of the recreation hall is in the current plan but the removal of the girl's staff 9 dormitory is not. The camp will be removing both buildings to allow the change of location 10 of a proposed multi-purpose building. Another proposed change in the long range plan is the 11 construction of a pole barn 30 x 60 x 12 for storage of maintenance equipment and supplies. 12 This pole barn will eliminate the outside storage of equipment which can be seen from Silver 13 Lake Road due to the removal of trees during the street widening. 14 Commissioner Franzese questioned the time line of this construction. 15 Mr. McAlpine stated that the demolition of the two buildings could take place within the next 16 month. The pole barn will be a spring project and it will be at least 18 months before the 17 multi-purpose building will be constructed. 18 Commissioner Franzese asked how far out the long range plan projected. 19 Mr. McAlpine stated the long range plan is a 10 year plan. The camp has initiated 8 of the 20 13 phases of implementation of the current plan and felt it was time to review and determine 21 the next set of goals. 22 Chair Bergstrom complimented the Silver Lake Camp on its efforts both philosophically and 23 in development. He stated this is a nice facility and noted how nicely the buildings on the 24 site flow with each other. 25 Commissioner Franzese asked Mr. McAlpine if he had noticed more water on the Silver Lake 26 Camp grounds recently. 27 Mr. McAlpine stated that on some areas there appeared to be even less water than before. 28 There has been however, considerably more water on the Silver Lake Road side of the 29 property. He attributed this to water which previously ran directly into Silver Lake now 30 being piped further north on Silver Lake Road. 31 Chair Bergstrom thanked Mr. McAlpine for the opportunity to discuss the changes to the 32 camp's long range plan. 33 2. Baker Associates, Inc, Stinson Boulevard and 33rd Avenue NE. 34 Ms. Moore-Sykes reported that Baker Associates, Inc. has made an agreement with the owner 35 of the property at Stinson Boulevard and 33rd Avenue NE for the construction of four Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes October 21, 1997 Page 2 1 Ms. Moore-Sykes introduced Shawn-McAlpine from the Salvation Army Silver Lake Camp 2 and stated he was present this evening to present changes to the camp's long range plan. The 3 camp is'proposing to demolish two buildings, construct a multi-purpose building and-a storage- 4 building for equipment. 5 Mr. McAlpine thanked the Planning Commission for the opportunity to appear and present an 6 overview of what is going on and what is proposed for the Silver Lake Camp. The camp has. 7 hired a planning consultant and is in the process of updating their existing long range plan. 8 The removal of the recreation hall is in the current plan but the removal of the girl's staff 9 dormitory is not. The camp will be removing both buildings to allow the change of location 10 of a proposed multi-purpose building. Another proposed change in the long range plan is the 11 construction of a pole barn 30 x 60 x 12, for storage of maintenance equipment: and-supplies. 12 This pole barn will eliminate the outside storage of equipment which can be seen from Silver 13 Lake Road due to the removal of trees during the street widening. 14 Commissioner Franzese questioned the time line of this construction. 15 Mr. McAlpine stated that the demolition of the two buildings could take place within the next 16 month. The pole barn will be a spring project and it will be at least 18 months before the 17 multi-purpose building will be constructed. 18 Commissioner Franzese asked how far out the long range plan projected. 19 Mr. McAlpine stated the long range plan is a 10 year plan. The camp has initiated 8 of the 20 13 phases of implementation of the current plan and felt it was time to review and determine 21 the next set of goals. 22 Chair Bergstrom complimented the Silver Lake Camp on its efforts both philosophically and 23 in development. He stated this is a nice facility and noted how nicely the buildings on the 24 site flow with each other. 25 Commissioner Franzese asked Mr. McAlpine if he had noticed more water on the Silver Lake 26 Camp grounds recently. 27 Mr. McAlpine stated that on some areas there appeared to be even less water than before. 28 There has been however, considerably more water on the Silver Lake Road side of the 29 property. He attributed this to water which previously ran directly into Silver Lake now 30 being piped further north on Silver Lake Road. . 31 Chair Bergstrom thanked Mr. McAlpine for the opportunity to discuss the changes to the 32 camp's long range plan. 33 2. Baker Associates, Inc, Stinson Boulevard and 33rd Avenue NE. 34 Ms. Moore-Sykes reported that Baker Associates, Inc. has made an agreement with the owner 35 of the property at Stinson Boulevard and 33rd Avenue NE for the construction of four Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes October 21, 1997 Page 3 1 townhomes on the site. This is being presented in concept review as it will be on the 2 November Planning Commission agenda for request of a variance. The front yard of the 3 proposal will be on 33rd Avenue. The-site will be regraded to achieve a higher elevation in 4 the.front to allow tuck-under garages in the back. This will also allow the project to retain 5 it's water on the site while at the same time providing a stylish, nice-looking unit for the area. 6 Due to the higher elevation, the developer is proposing to place a small set of steps in the 7 front yard of the property. City Ordinance states that steps, stoops and porches may only 8 extend into the front yard 5 feet. The proposed step will be approximately 15 feet into the 9 front yard and will require a variance. 10 Commissioner Franzese noted that there is a 16 foot parcel of"dead space" located to the east 11 of this property and asked if that property could be incorporated into this development. 12 Ms. Moore-Sykes reported that Mr. Fisher has tried to acquire that property but to no avail. 13 The owner of the 16 foot wide parcel, for whatever reason, does not want to sell the land. 14 Ms. Moore-Sykes noted that Staff and the developer were extremely cognizant of the water 15 issues and the contractor has been advised to seek the approval of the appropriate watershed 16 district. 17 Commissioner Gondorchin questioned conformance with the lot coverage and the height 18 requirements. He noted the garages were located to the north and asked if the rest of the area 19 to the west and south was all green space. 20 Ms. Moore-Sykes stated the proposal is within the maximum allowed lot coverage and the 21 Public Works Director has reviewed the plan and is comfortable with the height. The area to 22 the west and south are green space and .there is a driveway opening in the northwest corner to 23 access the tuck-under garages. 24 Commissioner Gondorchin questioned the dotted area located in the garage. 25 Ms. Moore-Sykes stated she believed the dotted line demonstrated the location of an enclosed 26 dumpster. 27 Commissioner Gondorchin noted that it appears on the plan that there is not room for parking 28 in the driveway area. If cars were parked in that area, they would block the access of other 29 residents. In accordance with that issue, he questioned the manner in which emergency 30 vehicles would access the rear of the buildings. 31 Ms. Moore-Sykes stated that the original plan included parking on the site to the west of the 32 unit. That is no longer drawn on the proposal. 33 Commissioner Gondorchin suggested that if there were to be parking on the west portion of 34 the site the lot coverage should be verified. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes October 21, 1997 Page 4 1 Chair Bergstrom stated it would be nice if something could be done with this lot and that 2 philosophically he was in favor of the proposal. 3 Ms. Moore-Sykes reported Staff had met with the developer several times and the proposal 4 would fit on the site, under the maximum allowable lot coverage, even with the additional 5 parking. She was not certain if the additional parking had been removed because the footprint 6 of the building had changed or if the developer merely desired more green space on the lot. 7 She reported the developer has indicated that he has constructed townhomes of a similar style 8 in Eden Prairie. 9 The Commission directed Staff to investigate the access for emergency vehicles with Fire 10 Chief Johnson and also the amount of parking available on site. 11 VIII. OTHER BUSINESS. 12 1. Proposed Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance Establishing_Regulations for Churches, 13 Temples and Synagogues. 14 Ms. Moore-Sykes noted that the Planning Commission had asked Staff to determine the 15 building coverages of the various church properties in St. Anthony. She reported the building 16 to lot coverages of the churches are as follows: Faith Methodist - 33%, Nativity Lutheran - 17 15%, Elmwood Evangelical - 7%, and St. Charles (currently) - 19%. If St. Charles is granted 18 permission to construct the fellowship hall, their building to lot coverage will be at 19 approximately 24%. Ms. Moore-Sykes stated she had changed the proposed amendment to 20 require that the building to land ratio for the permitted and permitted conditional uses (a)-(e) 21 may not exceed 35%. 22 Chair Bergstrom commented that in the definition section 1605 of the code, lot coverage is 23 defined but building to lot coverage is not. He suggested that building to lot coverage should 24 be defined in Section 1605 Subd. 17a. as "the combination of square footage of all building 25 footprints divided by the total square footage of the lot". 26 Chair Bergstrom suggested that in regard to parking requirements, instead of changing 27 1650.05 Subd. 1 (11), make the change to 1650.05 f. "...subsection except by City Council 28 action or the R-1 permitted conditional uses where the petitioner can demonstrate that a 29 specific project will not have adverse off-site parking effects". 30 Chair Bergstrom questioned if there would be benefit to include a statement in regard to total 31 lot coverage in the section of the Ordinance referring to building to land ratio. He noted that 32 as a City, there is a desire to preserve green space and to be sensitive to storm water 33 infiltration and run-off. 34 Ms. Moore-Sykes noted that the setback requirements will offer some control of the total lot 35 coverage. She noted that the total lot coverage of the church properties are not included in 36 the Staff report. 37 Chair Bergstrom suggested that a total lot coverage percent be determined by WSB or V Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes October 21, 1997 Page 4 1 Chair Bergstrom stated it would.be nice if something could be done with this lot and that 2 philosophically he was in favor.of-the proposal. 3 Ms..Moore-Sykes reported Staff had met with the developer several times and the-proposal 4 would fit on the site, under the maximum allowable lot coverage, even with the additional 5 parking. She was not certain if the additional parking had been removed because the footprint 6 of the building had changed or if the developer merely desired more green space on the lot. 7 She reported the developer has indicated that he has constructed townhomes of a similar style 8 in Eden.Prairie. 9 The Commission directed Staff to investigate the access for emergency vehicles with Fire 10 Chief Johnson and also the amount of parking available on site. 11 VIII. OTHER BUSINESS. 12 1. Proposed Amendment to the Zoniniz Ordinance Establishing Reizulations for Churches 13 Temples and Svnago ug_es. 14 Ms. Moore-Sykes noted that the Planning Commission had asked Staff to determine the 15 building.coverages of the various church properties in St. Anthony. She reported the building 16 to lot coverages of the churches are as follows: Faith Methodist- 33%, Nativity Lutheran - 17 15%, Elmwood Evangelical - 7%, and St. Charles (currently) - 19%. If St. Charles is granted 18 permission to construct the fellowship hall, their building to lot coverage will be at 19 approximately 24%. Ms. Moore-Sykes stated she had changed the proposed amendment to 20 require that the building to land ratio for the permitted and permitted conditional uses (a)-(e) 21 may not exceed 35%. 22 Chair Bergstrom commented that in the definition section 1605 of the code, lot coverage is 23 defined but building to lot coverage is not. He suggested that building to lot coverage should 24 be defined in Section 1605 Subd. 17a. as "the combination of square footage of all building 25 footprints divided by the total square footage of the lot". 26 Chair Bergstrom suggested that in regard to parking.requirements, instead of changing 27 1650.05 Subd. 1 (11), make the change to 1650.05 f "...subsection except by City Council 28 action or the R-1 permitted conditional uses where the petitioner can demonstrate that-a 29 specific project will not have adverse off-site parking effects". 30 Chair Bergstrom questioned if there would be benefit to include a statement in regard to total 31 lot coverage in the section of the Ordinance referring to building to,.land ratio. He noted that 32 as a City, there is a desire to preserve green space and to be sensitive to storm water 33 infiltration and run-off. 34 Ms. Moore-Sykes noted that the setback requirements will offer some control of the total lot 35 coverage. She noted that the total lot coverage of the church properties are not included in 36 the Staff report. 37 Chair Bergstrom suggested that a total lot coverage percent be determined by WSB or Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes October 21, 1997 Page 5 1 someone with expertise in that area. 2 Commissioner Makowske stated he believed that decision should be made by the City and that 3 any number chosen would be arbitrary. He noted that at the-September Planning Commission 4 maximum total lot coverage percentages of 65% and 80% had been mentioned. 5 Chair Bergstrom asked how a 65% maximum total lot coverage would compare to existing 6 church properties total lot coverages. 7 Ms. Moore-Sykes stated that although she did not have the figures, she would estimate that 8 over half of the churches in the area are over 65% total lot coverage. She noted that other 9 cities were handling churches and other public buildings with the building to lot coverage 10 because of the parking issue. The intent was to keep the parking on-site and off the street. 11 She agreed with Commissioner Makowske that any percentage selected would be arbitrary. 12 Chair Bergstrom asked if the Commission would like to set a threshold on the total lot 13 coverage. 14 Commissioner Gondorchin agreed that any number selected would be arbitrary. He stated his 15 biggest concern was storm water run-off. 16 Commissioner Franzese suggested that the wording of the Ordinance be changed to be explicit 17 that the lot coverage requirements in the first sentence do not pertain to the permitted and 18 permitted conditional uses listed under (a)-(e). 19 Ms. Moore-Sykes suggested the lot coverage requirement for residential structures could be 20 listed as A. and the building to lot ratio could be listed as B. Also suggested was that at the 21 end of the building to lot ratio statement "and not to include residential structures" could be 22 added. 23 Commissioner Makowske suggested that Subd. 10 could be added and the regulations that 24 apply to permitted and permitted conditional uses, as stated in the Staff report, could be 25 included in that Subd. and removed from Section 8 completely. A sentence in parenthesis 26 could then be added to Section 8 which would state "Permitted and conditional permitted uses 27 do not have a land coverage requirement but are addressed under Subd. 10". 28 Ms. Moore-Sykes then introduced Gerry DeZelar, architect for St. Charles Borromeo Church 29 and Ted McCrossan. 30 Commissioner Makowske asked what the current amount of impervious surface was at St. 31 Charles Borromeo Church. 32 Mr. DeZelar stated the amount of impervious surface presently is 62.5%. With the proposed 33 construction, the amount of impervious surface will be 65%. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes October 21, 1997 Page 6 1 Chair Bergstrom asked for a brief summary of the proposed construction as he was not in 2 attendance at the August Planning Commission meeting. 3 Mr. DeZelar reported the Church is proposing to add a gathering space of 12,000 square feet. 4 The construction will add 5,000 square feet of impervious material to the site. The proposed 5 turn around and handicapped parking area will result in the loss of six parking spaces. Mr. plan f r 1 6 DeZelar displayed the proposed floor plan and the concept p o panting. He then 7 displayed the proposed elevations. 8 Mr. DeZelar explained that the Church is proposing to collect all the run-off water by internal 9 drainage. The water will be collected and channeled to the green area on Stinson Boulevard. 10 He noted the closest storm sewer is on 27th Avenue on the Minneapolis side. 11 Commissioner Gondorchin noted drainage is a sensitive issue and suggested Mr. DeZelar seek 12 professional advice in regard to the issue. 13 Chair Bergstrom agreed and advised Mr. DeZelar to include definitive answers to the storm 14 water questions when the proposal was submitted for approval. He then asked Mr. DeZelar to 15 discuss the worst possible case in regard to off-site parking that could result from the 16 construction and the possible negative impact on the neighborhood. 17 Mr. DeZelar stated he did not foresee the parking issue becoming worse than it currently is. 18 The biggest number of cars parking off-site occurs during Sunday mass. The new Fellowship 19 Hall will not be utilized during Sunday mass. The parking requirement for the Fellowship 20 Hall is 195 spaces and 200 are available. 21 Chair Bergstrom stated the proposal looked like a good idea which is well designed. He 22 stated his main concerns are drainage and parking. 23 Chair Bergstrom asked if there were any further comments in regard to the Ordinance 24 amendment. 25 There was Commission consensus to recommend the amendment to the language of Chapter 26 16, Zoning and Land Use, as amended this evening, from Kim Moore-Sykes memo of 27 September 23, 1997. 28 Commissioner Gondorchin noted that under (d). "regular" should be replaced with 29 "regulating". 30 Commissioner Franzese suggested Staff consult City Attorney in regard to the inclusion of 31 other types of schools under (a). 32 2. Comprehensive Plan Update Process. 33 A. CIP. 34 Ms. Moore-Sykes explained that the Capital Improvement Program is in the format suggested Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes October 21, 1997 Page.6 1 Chair Bergstrom asked for a brief summary of the proposed construction as he was.not in 2 attendance at the August Planning Commission meeting. 3 Mr. DeZelar reported the Church is proposing to add a'gathering space of.12,000 square feet. 4 The construction will add 5,000 square feet of impervious material to the site. The proposed 5 turn around and handicapped parking area will result in the loss of six parking spaces. Mr. 6 DeZelar displayed-the proposed floor plan and the concept plan for planting. He then 7 displayed the proposed elevations. 8 Mr. DeZelar explained that the Church is proposing to collect all the run-off water by internal 9 drainage. The water will be collected and channeled to the green area on Stinson Boulevard. 10 He noted the closest storm sewer is on 27th Avenue on the Minneapolis side. 11 Commissioner- Gondorchin noted drainage is a sensitive issue and suggested Mr. DeZelar seek 12 professional advice in regard to the issue. 13 Chair Bergstrom agreed and advised Mr. DeZelar to include definitive answers to the storm 14 water questions when the proposal was submitted for approval. He then asked Mr. DeZelar to 15 discuss the worst.possible case in regard to off-.site parking that could result from the 16 construction and the possible negative impact on the neighborhood. 17 Mr.-DeZelar stated he did not foresee.the parking issue becoming worse than it currently is. 18 The biggest number of cars parking off-site occurs during Sunday mass. The new Fellowship 19 Hall-will not be utilized during Sunday mass. The parking requirement for the Fellowship 20 Hall is 195 spaces and 200 are available. 21 Chair Bergstrom stated the proposal looked like a.good idea which is well designed. He 22 stated his main concerns are drainage and.parking. 23 Chair Bergstrom asked if there were any further comments in regard to the Ordinance 24 amendment. •25 -There was Commission consensus to recommend the amendment to the language of Chapter 26 16, Zoning and Land Use, as.amended this evening, from'Kim Moore-Sykes memo of 27 September 23, 1997. 28 Commissioner Gondorchin noted that under (d). "regular." should be replaced with 29 "regulating". 30 Commissioner Franzese suggested Staff consult City Attorney in regard to the inclusion of 31 other types of schools under (a). 32 2. Comprehensive Plan Update Process. 33 A. CIP. 34 Ms. Moore-Sykes explained that the Capital Improvement Program is in the format suggested Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes October 21, 1997 Page 7 1 by Suzanne Rhees of BRW, Inc., who is developing the Comprehensive Plan Update. This 2 program is meant to be placed in the Comprehensive Plan Update to deal with issues such as 3 Road Systems, Local System Maintenance, Local-Traffic Management, Road Enhancements, 4 . Commercial; Park System, Water Resources, and Public Utilities. She explained that the 5 Program is a summary and is not meant to be specific. 6 Commissioner Makowske questioned the time frame of the Road System Reconstruction and 7 the amount of dollars listed for Park Systems. 8 Ms. Moore-Sykes explained that the Road System Reconstruction includes the 1998 9 improvements. Further projections can not be made because the road improvements are 10 determined on an annual basis. The amount of dollars listed for Park Systems is the.figure of 11 the most expensive redevelopment of Central Park as supplied by BRW, Inc. 12 3. Status Reports re: Task Forces. 13 Commissioner Gondorchin reported that the Parks Task Force has determined the location of 14 the tot lot and a play area for older children. The current focus of the group is playground 15 material and what funds are available. Efforts are currently being made to determine if 16 external funds are available. Monthly meetings are not allowing the Task Force to be 17 efficient and it is possible that the Task Force will begin meeting on a bi-monthly basis. 18 Commissioner Makowske reported that he had been out of town and was unable to attend the 19 most recent Storm Water Management Task Force meeting. 20 Ms. Moore-Sykes noted that the Storm Water Management Task Force had submitted their 21 short-term recommendations to.the City Council and that at the last Council meeting a number 22 of the recommendations were voted on. At this time, the City Attorney has strongly advised 23 against purchasing the homes which were included in the recommendations of the Task Force 24 as it has not been determined if that purchase would serve the public good. It is illegal for 25 the City to purchase the homes if the purchase would be for the individual good. She stated 26 she has a sense that the Task Force will now continue to work on long-term 27 recommendations. The Task Force is currently discussing design standards. She stated she 28 believed that the Task Force has agreed on design standards of a 100 year event plus 30%. 29 30 IX. COMMENTS. 31 Commissioner Franzese noted the copy of the City of Bloomington Ordinance regarding 32 mobile home parks and relocation costs, which was included in Commissioner's packet. She 33 stated this would be good protection for the City of St. Anthony to have. 34 Chair Bergstrom commented that in going through the City Codes he noticed that a 35 moratorium on construction which expired in 1992 was still included in the Code and should 36 be removed. 37 Chair Bergstrom announced that an Open House for Larry Hamer's retirement will be held at 38 City Hall on November 20 from 2:00 P.M. - 3:30 P.M. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes October 21, 1997 Page 8 1 Ms. Moore-Sykes reported that Jay Hartman has been chosen as Mr. Hamer's successor. Mr. 2 Hartman was previously in charge of the water and sewer system in the City of St. Anthony. 3 Ms. Moore-Sykes reported that Steve Koes, Public Works Department, is also retiring and an 4 Open House will be held for him on October 31 at 2:00 P.M. at City Hall. 5 Commissioner Makowske noted that the City elections for School Board and City Council 6 will be held on November 4. 7 8 X. ADJOURNMENT. 9 Motion by Delmonico, seconded by Bergstrom, to adjourn the meeting at 8:35 P.M. 10 Motion carried unanimously. 11 Respectfully submitted, 12 Lorri Kopischke 13 TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes - October 21, 1997 Page 8 1 Ms. Moore-Sykes reported that Jay Hartman has been chosen as Mr. Hamer's successor. Mr. 2 Hartman was previously in charge of the water and sewer system in the City of St. Anthony. I 3- Ms. Moore-Sykes reported that Steve Koes, Public.Works Department, is also retiring and an 4 Open House will be held for him on October 31 at 2:00 P.M. at City Hall. 5 Commissioner Makowske noted that the City elections for School Board and City Council 6 will be held on November 4. 7 8 X. ADJOURNMENT. 9 Motion by Delmonico, seconded.by Bergstrom, to adjourn the meeting at 8:35 P.M. 10 Motion carried unanimously. 11 Respectfully submitted, 12 Lorri Kopischke 13 TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. STAFF REPORT DATE: November 18, 1997 TO: Planning Commission Members FROM: Kim Moore-Sykes, Management Assistant ITEM: 97-09 St. Charles Borromeo Catholic Church -- Conditional Use Permit Request BACKGROUND. In August, Gerald De Zelar, architect from Gerald De Zelar & Associates, contacted the City informing Staff that St. Charles Borromeo Catholic Church was planning to construct a fellowship hall addition to the church. This proposed construction constitutes a change to the structure and as a result of this proposed change, the church is required to obtain a conditional use permit for the property. St. Charles Borromeo Catholic Church was constructed in 1958, before the City's zoning districts and ordinances were codified. As such, the church has existed in this residential area without the required conditional use permit because it is a grandfathered use. In considering the request for the conditional use permit, it must be determined that: a. The use is one of the conditional uses specifically listed for the district in which the property is located; b. That specific conditions that are deemed necessary to make the use compatible with other uses in the area are determined and communicated to the applicant; C. The use will not be detrimental to the health, safety, or general welfare of persons residing or working in the vicinity or to the values of property in the vicinity; and d. The use will provide a service or a facility which is in the interest of.public convenience and will contribute to the general welfare. St. Charles Borromeo Catholic Church is a conditional use that is specifically list in Section 1615.03 Permitted Conditional Uses, (a) of the City Code. St. Charles also concurs with the requirement that the use will not be detrimental to the health or general welfare of persons residing or working in the vicinity and does provide a service that is in the interest of the public and contributes to the Community's general welfare. 9 Safety has been an issue with the church because of the off-site parking that occurs whenever the church holds services or schedules other events. Because worshippers park on St. Anthony Boulevard and Stinson Boulevard, there is concern for the safety and welfare of pedestrian and vehicular traffic in these neighborhoods. This concern is heightened during the winter months because plowed snow banks make it particularly difficult to park on the streets in these areas. Staff recommends that a condition to the conditional use permit be that the church develop and enforce an on-site parking plan. GERALD G DE ZELAR d ASSOCIATES Forensic Architecture • Construction Administration • Specifications August 19, 1997 St. Anthony Village 3301 Silver Lake Road St. Anthony, Minnesota 55418-1699. Re: Church of St. Charles Borromeo Request for Conditional Use Gentleman: The Church of St. Charles Borromeo requests a Conditional Use Permit to construct a Gathering Space addition to the Church. The proposed conditional use is a church support facility, a listed allowable use within a R-1 Zoning District. The proposed Gathering Space is located within the interior of the campus between and connecting the existing Church and existing Convent. The facility is further screened on the North and East by the existing Rectory, an existing garage, and existing shrubs. Therefore, this project will have very little, if any, negative impact on the community and neighborhood. There will be no increase in traffic, and ingress and egress will remain as exists. The Gathering Space is an important part of today's worship. Activities include meeting and greeting before Masses and fellowship following services. Other activities could include small lectures, meetings, community meetings, small social gatherings, and wakes. All activities are low keyed and will pose no concerns for the health, safety, or welfare to individuals nor injurious to property in the vicinity. Thank you for your consideration. Sincerely, Gerald G. DeZelar, AIA, CSI, ICBO Attachments: .Application for Conditional Use Permit Landscape Plan Structure/Land Ration Site Plan As-Built Survey Floor Plan Topographic, Location and Utility Survey Building Elevations 616 Stewart Avenue • South Saint Paul, Minnesota 55075 • (612)451-2722 Date: August 19, 1997 Fee: $130.00 CITY OF ST. ANTHONY APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Applicant: Gerald G. DeZelar & Associates Phone: (612) 451-2722 Address: 616 Stewart Avenue So. St. Paul MN 55075 Status of applicant (owner, buyer, renter, agent, etc.): Architect Street address and/or legal description of property in question: 2420 St. Anthony Blvd. , St. Anthony MN 55418 Zoning district in which property is located: R-1 Conditional use proposed: CatherinQ space for the Church of St. Charles Borromeo Minnesota Statutes and City Ordinances require that the following conditions be satisfied before a conditional use may be authorized. Please respond to these conditions, using additional sheets, if necessary. 1 ) The proposed conditional use is one of the conditional uses specifically listed for the zoning district in which it is to be located. 2) The proposed conditional use will not be detrimental to the health, safety, or general welfare of persons residing or working in the vicinity or injurious to property values or improvements in the vicinity. 3) The proposed conditional use is necessary or desirable at the above location to provide a service or a facility which is in the interest of public convenience and will contribute to the general welfare of the neighborhood or community. Signature of applicant: Gerald. C. DeZelar Church of St. Charles Borromeo 2420 St. Anthony Blvd. St. Anthony, Minnesota 55418 STRUCTURE/LAND RATIO Existing non-structure 92,917 Square Feet Existing structure 156,697 Sauare Feet Total property 249,614 Square Feet or 5.73 acres Existing structure consists of 62.77 percent of property. 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S, -ml Church of St. Charles Borromeo 2420 St. Anthony Blvd. St. Anthony, Minnesota 55418 STRUCTURE/LAND RATIO Existing non-structure 92,917 Square Feet Existing structure 156,697 Square Feet Total property 249,614 Square Feet or 5.73 acres Existing structure consists of 62.77 percent of.property. Additional structure on property as a result of the proposed .addition is 5,570 square feet or 2.2 percent. Existing structure 156,697 SF Increased structure on property 5,571 SF New total structure 162,268 SF . = 65% of property. BUILDING/LAND RATIO Rectory 3,566 Square Feet Rectory/Church Link 392 Square Feet Church 13,556 Square Feet Convent 3,466 Square Feet School 25,635 Square Feet Garage 1 ,082 Square Feet Existing Buildings Total 47,697 Square Feet = 19% of property Gathering Space Addition 12,000 Square Feet Proposed Total Buildings 59,697 Square Feet _ = 24% of property STAFF REPORT DATE: November 18, 1997 TO: Planning Commission Members FROM: Kim Moore-Sykes, Management Assistant ITEM: Proposed Revision of Section 1400.16 Enforcement. The City Council received a request at the November 4th Council meeting from Ron Hansen, 3220 Belden Drive, to review this section of the City Code for revision. Mr. Hanson maintains that giving someone 30 days to comply with the City's Sign Ordinance is too long. He feels that the City Manager should be able to make compliance more immediate. I have attached a copy of Section 1400.16 to this Staff Report. It can be found on pay 14- 16 of the City Code. I have also contacted Bill Soth for his legal opinion about more immediate enforcement. There may be some issues regarding due process, which may preclude the City from acting on this revision. 9 1400.16 Enforcement. If a sign is in violation of this Chapter, or is in danger of falling, or is otherwise a menace to the safety of,persons or property, the City Manager may give to the owner of the property on which the sign is located, written notice specifying the violation, ordering the cessation of the violation and requiring either the removal of the sign or remedial work in the time and manner specified in the notice. In the event of failure to comply with the notice within 30 days, the City Manager may remove the sign or cause such remedial work to be done. The cost of the work performed by the City must be paid to the City by the owner of the property on which the sign is located. If payment is not made within 30 days after a statement for such costs is sent to the owner, the costs may be assessed against the property by certifying the costs to the County Treasurer for collection in the same manner as real estate taxes. If a sign which has been removed is not reclaimed and costs paid within 30 days after its removal, the sign may be sold or otherwise .disposed of by the City. If a sign is found to be an immediate danger to the public because of its unsafe condition, it may be removed without notice, and written notice of removal and reasons for the removal will be given to the owner of the property on which the sign is located as soon as possible. _ I STAFF REPORT DATE: November 18, 1997 TO: Planning Commission Members FROM: Kim Moore-Sykes, Management Assistant ITEM: Proposed Sign Plan for 2400 - 37th, Stop 'N Go. Mr. Jim Sarna has recently purchased the Stop 'N Go service station on the corner of Stinson Boulevard and 37th Avenue NE and it will become a Citgo affiliated gas station. Mr. Sarna has submitted the attached sign proposal for the City's consideration. 1. No pylon sign. Mr. Sarna feels that because of the stop signs and telephone pole, a pylon sign is obstructed and not noticed by motorists. 2. Monument Signs. a. Mr. Sarna is proposing to place a lit double-sided monument sign at each curb cut. There are two curb cuts on the property. The design of the proposed monument signs are shown on the Signs/Poles page. He would prefer the second design standard. These signs would exceed the 68 SF maximum for a double-sided ground sign. Each proposed monument sign is 6 feet by 8 feet and has a total of 96 SF of signage. OR b. If two monument signs would not be acceptable, he is requesting one lit double-sided monument sign and a lit twin post canopy island sign _. (Page 2, design by the 'X') 3. Wall Signs. Mr. Sarna is proposing wall signs similar to what exists now. i SIGNS/POLES 4 :'•r. Curb Sign Styles and Sizes 1 1 1 �1`� CITGO 1 1 1 I - 7'x10' Sign 5'x 5' CITGO r i' i -Il : 5'x 5'2 or 3 Product Pricing 2'x 10' Credit Card Logo or Custom Copy -- .0e µ CITGO Custom Logo 7'x7' CITGO = 6'x8'Sign - 7- a.s WLOO�vv-"- ��I�o 4'x4' CITGO (� S,c,c,�,�-� - 4'x4'2 or 3 Product Pricing 2'x 8' Credit Card Logo or Custom Copy 6'x6' O 3 Product Pricing One 1 1 1 �� Piece Cabinet --}; 1 11 �; „ CITGO 1 1 1 4'x 6' Credit Card Logo or 5'x10'or 4'x8'Sign Custom Copy 2 or 3 Product Pricing No Bottom Panel 2'x 6' Diesel Pricing i a. Available ITGO 5'x 5'Sign � ? 7'x7'Sign 8'x8'Sign 7'Twin Post System with 10'3"x 6'one-piece REVISED 1/93 BRAND OPERATIONS service cabinet , CANOPY/ISLAIYDS 2 Standard Island Layouts -` SINGLE POLE LAYOUT Standard Island layout specifications include Bronze Poles and Island Curbs, Permanent Pump Toppers, _r= Merchandising Spandrel, Pump Skirts and Product Decals. FALL CRGO 1 1 1 , Elm ® AUTO �_ 2'x 6'Merchandising 10' Internally 7 ' ® FUEL Spandrel mounted 7'high Illuminated Pricing Spandrel mounted ^' Pole—Bronze back to back on support pole. Permanent Pump Toppers `PO `vo` 9F Pump Skirts and 1 Product Decals Island Curb—Bronze w TWIN POST CANOPY ISLAND LAYOUT Standard Island layout specifications include Bronze Poles and Island Curbs, Permanent Pump Toppers, Merchandising Spandrels, Pump Skirts and Product Decals. See page 3 for Flat Canopy specifications. � � 10' Internally ® aurc ® Auro ® :" °• Illuminated Pricing FUEL Rl� 111.,. 111". Spandrel mounted between poles. __ --P Pop PoP Ji Standard Island layouts shown below illustrate the identification of canopies utilizing the reseller's color scheme. _ ;{ When using reseller's color scheme,triband When using reseller's cannot be used. Use 2 color scheme,triband only 2'x 2'or 3'x 3' A cannot be used. Use © AM e Illuminated Signs or c t only 2'x 2'or 3'x 3' A A= A ., 30"x 30"Non- Li r Illuminated Signs or - Pon POP illuminated Signs on - 30"x 30"Non-illuminated Pcv s Flat Canopies. Sign Signs on Mansard placement will be Canopies. See page 4 the same as 'rfs- for sign placement. Mansard Canopies. s- REVISED 11/93 BRAND OPERATIONS STAFF REPORT DATE: November 18, 1997 TO: Planning Commission Members FROM: Kim Moore-Sykes, Management Assistant ITEM: Expiration of Planning Commissioner Terms The following Planning Commissioners have terms that expire December 31, 1997: Doug Bergstrom, Chair Rosemary Franzese Christopher Makowske If you are interested in continuing as a Planning Commissioner, please send a letter of interest to the City Manager by X4:30 p.m., December 15', 1997. - 4 Congress acts to preempt local Examination land use authority process refines Remi Stone and improves The US House of Representatives approved on a 248 to 178 vote H.R.1534--legislation designed to strip communities'ability to make land Waste Manage- planning decisions at the local level.The legislation would allow federal preemption of local government land use and zoning authority,and expand meat Act litigation and taxpayers liability in federal court.The White House issued a veto threat as soon as the bill passed the House,although the number of votes needed for a veto override probably exist.The bill,also known as Remi Stone S.1256,is now in the Senate Judiciary Committee waiting for committee action. Since 1996,the state and a panel The National League of Cities has issued an action call,urging cities to of interested parties have been examin- contact their Congressional delegation and request opposition to the bills. ing the Waste Management Act For more information contact Barrie Tabin at(202)626-3020.r (WMA),seeking changes in the law to make solid waste management more effective and efficient. Recommended changes to the WMA are designed to meet five goals: • State acceptance and sharing of risks Action plan identifying housing • Efficient and effective recycling programs and community`development • Reevaluate funding priorities • Short-term and long-term funding levels resources available for review • Efficient use of facilities. .�. This past month,the Minnesota Office of Environmental Assistance The Minnesota Housing Finance Agency,the Department of Children, (OEA)wrapped up the last phase of the Families and Learning,and the Department of Trade and Economic Development WMA examination process by hosting have announced that the 1998 Minnesota Consolidated Housing and Community a series of three hearings.League Development Plan and the 1997 Consolidated Plan Annual Performance Report representative Susan Young, Minneapo- are available for review and public comment from Nov. I 1 through Dec. 10, 1997. lis,participated in the forum process. This consolidated plan is the annual action plan that identifies resources This last phase of the examination which will be available to help the state address its housing and community process served the purpose of refining development needs.The following HUD grant programs are covered by the plan: and improving recommendations for • Community Development Block Grant Program changes in the WMA developed by • Emergency Shelter Grants Program technical teams.The work of the • The Home Investment Program technical teams and recommendations The Annual Performance Report provides information on housing and from the forums are expected to be the community development assistance activity,including funds disbursed through. basis of a legislative report and possible state agencies,in Minnesota during the 1997 program year(Oct.' 1, 1996 through legislation for the 1998 session. Sept. 30, 1997). To obtain a copy of the recommen- If you would like a list of locations where these documents will be dations or to learn more about the made available,contact Mickey Ojard at the League of Minnesota Cities at process,contact Rick Patraw,OEA,at (612)281-1261.r (612)215-0193 or(800)657-3843.r November 5, 1997 CL� ZAk C Page 3 w 3 I CITY OF ST. ANTHONY 2 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING MINUTES 3 OCTOBER 14, 1997 4 I. CALL TO ORDERIROLL CALL. 5 The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by 6 Mayor Ranallo. 7 H. ROLL CALL. 8 Councilmembers Present: Ranallo, Marks, Enrooth, Wagner, and Faust. 9 Also Present: City Manager Mike Momson and City Attorney William Soth. 10 Councilmembers Absent: None. 11 III. APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 14, 1997 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA. 12 Motion by Marks, second by Enrooth to approve the October 14, 1997 Regular Council 13 Meeting Agenda with the following change: 14 IX. New Business C. Ordinance 1997-010, Amending Cable Franchise Ordinance 1982- 15 009, Article II:, Section 4. Franchise Term 16 17 Motion carried unanimously. 18 IV. APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 23, 1997 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING 19 MINUTES. 20 Motion by Marks, second by-Faust to approve the September 23, 1997 City Council Regular 21 Meeting Minutes as presented. 22 Motion carried unanimously. 23 V. LICENSES/PERMITS/PETITIONS. 24 Motion by Enrooth, second by Marks to approve the following licenses: 25 Contractors License: 26 Steve Zebro Cement Company, Coon Rapids, MN/working at 3320 Roosevelt Street 27 Heating License: 28 Roseville Plumbing & Heating, Inc., St. Paul, MN/working at Freedom Service Station 29 Total Heating & A/C, Crystal, MN/working at 3408 Downers Drive 30 Aspen Heating and Air Conditioning/working at 4028 Macalaster Drive 31 Fisher-Bjork Sheetmetal Co., Inc./working at SAV Liquor Store-Apache 32 Motor Vehicle Starting License: 33 Dick's St. Anthony 66 Service 34 Garbage Haulers License: 35 Name change for Woodlake Sanitary Inc., BFI 36 to Waste Systems of North America, Inc./Residential Hauler/Same Owner City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 2 1 Councilmember Enrooth stated he would like to exclude the Contractor's License for Johnson 2 & Sons Concrete, Champlin, MN/working at 3327, 3331, and 3335 Skycroft Drive as the 3 work on these properties has been done for three weeks. He-asked the City Manager to 4 investigate. 5 6 Motion carried unanimously. 7 Motion by Faust, second by Wagner to approve a temporary wine permit for St. Charles 8 Borromeo Church, Affirming the Faith Dinner/November 8, 1997, 2727 Stinson Boulevard. 9 Voting on the motion: Ranallo, Enrooth, Faust and Wagner aye. Marks abstained. 10 Motion carried. 11 Mayor Ranallo asked what recourse the City would have against Johnson & Sons Concrete. 12 City Attorney William Soth stated that the City can grant or deny the license. The work 13 being done without a license is a violation and Johnson & Sons Concrete can be issued a 14 citation. 15 VI. PRESENTATION OF CLAIMS. 16 Motion by Marks, second by Wagner to approve the following claims: 17 18 A. General. 19 1. Calgon Carbon Corporation 20 a. In the amount of$19,257.60 for material for water filtration system. 21 b. In the amount of$18,758.40 for material for water filtration system. 22 C. In the amount of $38,649.60 for material for water filtration system. 23 2. Dorsey & Whitney in the amount of$715.64 for legal services rendered 24 through August 31, 1997. 25 3. Foster, Ojile, Wentzell, & Brever in the amount of$3,000.00 for professional 26 services rendered for the month of October 1997. 27 4. St. Anthony Fire Relief Association in the amount of$24,824.00 for 2% 28 insurance premium payment for fire relief. 29 B. 1997 Street Improvements: 30 1. Northdale Construction in the amount of$29,288.50 for Payment Application 31 #3. 32 C. Storm Water 33 1. Dorsey & Whitney in the amount of$1,334.58 for legal services rendered 34 through August 31, 1997. 35 2. WSB & Associates, Inc. in the amount of$1,443.50 for professional services 36 rendered August 1 through August 31, 1997. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 3 1 D. New Liquor Store 2 1. Dorsey & Whitney in the amount of$3,500.00 for legal services rendered 3 through August 31, 1997 regarding $940,000 Liquor Revenue Bonds, Series 4 1997. 5 2. KKE Architects, Inc. in the amount of$2,289.03 for services rendered through 6 August 29, 1997. 7 3. Lund Martin Construction in the amount of$100,247.80 for Payment 8 Application #2. 9 E. 6 pages of Verified Claims as presented by the Finance Director. 10 Motion carried unanimously. 11 VII. REPORTS. 12 A. Discussion of Storm Water Recommendations. 13 City Manager Mornson referred to the report entitled, "City's responses to the Storm Water 14 Management Task Force's Short-Term Recommendations for Flood Damage Control". Copies 15 were available for the audience. 16 Morrison reported that in response to the Task Force recommendations 1. and 2. Data 17 Collection, on September 26, 1997, staff sent a letter to the 55 property owners who have 18 identified themselves as suffering damage from the July 1 storm, which requested updated 19 damage estimates to both structural and personal property. A notice was also published in the 20 St. Anthony Bulletin and posted at City Hall. The process is still ongoing and to date the 21 City has received three responses. The City has also received a number of calls from 22 residents who state they have already done this and do not want to do so again. Mornson 23 noted that as a result of the City Fire Departments quick response in obtaining this 24 information from door to door surveys, the flood damage has been well explained to the State 25 Officials. There has been a lot of hesitation by the public to provide this information to the 26 City. 27 City Attorney Soth commented on Task Force recommendation 3. Home Bum. He stated 28 that as discussed before, the City is legally authorized to buy homes if it is concluded to be in 29 the best interest of the City. In other words, if the purchase provides the best use to correct 30 the water problem. This depends on the engineer's opinion of what area can be,used for 31 ponding and water retention. 32 In regard to Task Force recommendation 4. Technical Assistance, Mr. Soth explained that if 33 this is meant to provide professional assistance to individual home-owners, the City cannot 34 legally provide this service. This service can only be provided if it done on a city-wide basis. 35 It was also suggested that the City provide funds to improve certain homes. This is not 36 legally possible as it would be a private expenditure rather than a public expenditure. 37 In regard to Task Force recommendation 5. Moratorium on Building, Mr. Soth explained that 38 it is possible under state statutes to adopt a moratorium. This is most frequently done for the 39 purpose of reviewing an ordinance and considering changes to an ordinance. A moratorium City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 4 1 does not appear to be the correct way to approach the water problem. Any moratorium is put 2 in place on a temporary basis. This water problem needs to be dealt with on an ongoing 3 basis. Any redevelopment project should be addressed individually by Staff.to determine if it .4 aggravates the water problem. If it does not, there is no reason to prohibit redevelopment. 5 In regard to Task Force recommendation 6. Change in the Storm Water/Sewer Sump Pump 6 Ordinance, Mr. Soth reported the City of St. Anthony does have an ordinance that prohibits 7 the connection of sump pump to the sanitary sewer system. A provision of the ordinance 8 requires that an inspection be made at the time of the sale of a property. The seller is 9 required to provide the buyer with a certificate stating that there are no illegal connections. 10 This is sometimes done and sometimes not. Mr. Soth stated he and Staff are currently 11 looking at the ordinance to determine how to make it more stringent and also the possibility 12 of offering incentives for compliance. 13 In regard to Task Force recommendation 10. Providing Financial Relief to Residents, Mr. 14 Soth stated that as individual prior opinions and the opinion of the League of Minnesota 15 Cities have expressed, this is not a permissible expenditure of City funds. Data is being 16 compiled by the City in the hope that State funds will be available because City funds are not 17 available for direct payment to the residents. 18 Peter Willenbring and Todd Hubmer, WSB &. Associates, Inc. distributed a memorandum on 19 the subject of review of short term recommendations by the Flood Task Force. Mr. 20 Willenbring reported that at the City Council meeting of September 23, 1997, the Council 21 requested WSB & Associates to provide an engineering opinion on the advisability of 22 undertaking the home buyouts recommended by the Flood Task Force. Their review of the 23 recommendation is in three parts; Discussion of Ranking Criteria, Discussion of Prioritization, 24 and Analysis of Technical Merits of Constructing Improvements on Property Proposed for 25 Home Buyouts. 26 In regard to the Discussion of Ranking Criteria, Mr. Willenbring noted that the Flood Task 27 Force had recommended the purchase of the following homes: 2716 St. Anthony Boulevard, 28 2713 St. Anthony Boulevard, 2914 29th Avenue, 4029 Shamrock Drive, and 2800 St. 29 Anthony Boulevard. The Task Force recommendations indicated that these homes were 30 prioritized based on the following: Amount of damage caused by flood water only; The 31 number of incidences the homes have been flooded; The suitability of the home's location in 32 order to provide water control solutions for other homes. Mr. Willenbring stated that 33 although WSB & Associates fully supports the utilization of these three criteria, they would 34 also recommend other criteria be incorporated into the ranking and prioritization process to 35 further define the needs for purchasing homes and/or undertake improvements to correct 36 flooding problems in the area if such action is warranted. These additional criteria include: 37 1. Giving consideration to the level of flood protection that is currently provided to the 38 home relative to the flood protection provided and deemed reasonable in other 39 communities. Mr. Willenbring stated the storms which occurred on July 1 and July 23 40 both exceeded the amount of rainfall typically utilized in the design of a storm City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 5 1 drainage system. The cost associated with that level of protection is generally too high 2 relative to the occurrences. 3 2. Evaluating the feasibility and cost-effectiveness of flood proofing the property instead 4 of purchasing it. 5 3. Determining and defining if the purchase of the property provides a public benefit so 6 as to meet the legal requirements of such a purchase. 7 In regard to the Discussion of Prioritization, Mr. Willenbring reported WSB has reviewed the 8 prioritized home buyout list provided by the Task Force for conformance with the criteria 9 utilized, and gave general consideration to the other 50 homes surveyed by the City and 10 identified to have been flooded in the July 1 event. He provided two flood damage inventory 11 tables with a listing of the homes that experienced flood damage. One is sorted by the 12 amount of damage reported in the July 1, 1997 event and the other is sorted by the number of 13 times the homes have been flooded. The review indicates that there is a potential that some 14 of the other 50 homes could rank higher based on these three prioritized criteria than the five 15 identified in the Task Force report. He noted that 2709 Armour Terrace reported their home 16 was flooded more than 20 times, making it the most frequently flooded home in the City, and 17 3503 Edward Street reported that their south basement wall collapsed, one of two homes with 18 reported structural damage. These two homes were not included on the list provided by the 19 Task Force. Mr. Willenbring asked that the Task Force provide WSB with additional 20 information in regard to the ranking of the homes chosen for buyout relative to criteria. 21 In regard to the Analysis of Technical Merits of Constructing Improvements on Property 22 Proposed for Home Buyouts, Mr. Willenbring explained a review of the technical merits of 23 buying these homes to construct improvements in their location to alleviate flooding problems 24 was also undertaken. Interviews were conducted with residents at these locations, the July 1, 25 1997 high water marks were recorded, low building elevations of those homes affected and 26 not affected by flooding in these locations were recorded, and the hydrologic merits of 27 constructing improvements at these locations were reviewed. WSB then reported the problem, 28 the preliminary findings, and proposed actions for each home on the Task Force list. 29 In summary, Mr. Willenbring stated the recommendations of WSB are as follows: 30 1. The public benefit associated with the purchase of these homes be defined. To 31 accomplish this, the City should be broken into thirteen study areas as shown in Figure 32 4. For each area, the regional improvements needed to correct the flooding problems 33 should be evaluated, along with an estimated cost for these improvements. Each of 34 these areas could then be prioritized based on the cost/benefit ratio for each of these 35 public improvements. 36 2. The City define a desired level of flood protection for homes in the City. It must be 37 noted that the July 23, 1987 storm and the July 1, 1997 storm far exceeded any design 38 parameters commonly used in providing flood protection to residents within the Twin 39 Cities' metropolitan area. It is also noted that the City will never be able to guarantee 40 flooding will never take place in a selected location, even if improvements are 41 constructed. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 6 1 3. The sanitary sewer and storm water issues be approached as two separate problems 2 within the City of St. Anthony. Sanitary sewer backup is a chief means of inundation 3 of many structures within the City and the solutions are different from storm water 4 problems. 5 4. The prioritization of homes considered for buyout be re-evaluated based on the 6 suggested updated criteria and further review of the background data utilized by the 7 Task Force. 8 Mr. Willenbring reported WSB also investigated the cost to provide technical assistance for 9 flood proofing homes. The cost would be between $400 to $1,000 per lot. The work would 10 typically include the need for a survey of the homeowner's lot, an engineering inspection of 11 the property and the preparation of a memorandum outlining the results of the inspection, and 12 recommendations for flood proofing improvements. These improvements could include 13 berming, diking, pumping, etc. 14 Marks asked if the cost to provide technical assistance would only be assessed to the lots that 15 require change. 16 Mr. Willenbring stated he understood that the City would be required to make the program 17 available to all residents in the City but that he did not believe that every structure in the City 18 of St. Anthony would require flood proofing improvements. 19 Enrooth questioned recommendation #3 in regard to separating sanitary sewer and storm water 20 issues. 21 Mr. Willenbring explained that this recommendation focuses more on the criteria used to 22 respond to the problem. The homes experiencing storm sewer back up may not be located in 23 the lowest areas and the criteria which applies to storm water problems may not apply to 24 homes with sanitary sewer problems. 25 Norine Lockrem, 2916 Old Highway 8, stated she no longer lives at 2716 St. Anthony 26 Boulevard. She and her husband moved two weeks ago. She stated it is a difficult position .27 to be in owning two homes but there was no alternative. 28 Mrs. Lockrem referred to the criteria of the WSB report which sorted by the number of times 29 flooded. She suggested that this information may not be accurate as some residents have 30 lived in their homes for over 40 years and know how many times the homes have been 31 flooded. Others may have only lived in their homes for 10 years and would not have that 32 information available to them. 33 _ Mr. Willenbring stated he agreed. He stated there is a need to perform a more thorough 34 analysis of the information provided by the survey. This is the rationale for the 35 recommendation to talk with the Task Force in regard to the information they used to 36 prioritize the home for buyouts. Mr. Willenbring stated the information used was taken City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 7 1 directly from the survey form which was the same information which was provided to the 2 Task Force. 3 Mrs. Lockrem stated the statement in the WSB report regarding the number of times flooded 4 could be misleading and she would like a footnote added which would clarify the point just 5 discussed. 6 Mrs. Lockrem stated that criteria #1, on page 2 of the WSB report is confusing. She 7 questioned if it inferred that because she and her husband had only constructed a three foot 8 wall that they had not done a reasonable job in protecting their home from flooding. She 9 stated she did not believe this was true. 10 Mr. Willenbring stated that criteria was not specifically aimed at the Lockrem property. He 11 explained that another goal in preparing this report is to help the City define the public 12 purpose to allow the purchase of the homes. In order to define the public purpose, WSB 13 needs to determine design standards. WSB needs to be told how much rain they need to 14 design for. 15 Mrs. Lockrem verified that WSB was referring to the City providing flood protection in 16 criteria #1: 17 Mr. Willenbring stated this was correct. 18 Enrooth noted that the City, together with the Task Force, needed to determine the degree of 19 flood protection and that most storm sewers are designed for a ten-year event. 20 Mrs. Lockrem questioned the WSB summary recommendation #1 on page 6. She noted that 21 the City and residents need information to present to the legislature within the next month. 22 She asked how long it would take to study thirteen areas and if this was a reasonable 23 recommendation. She stated she was feeling a great deal of pressure and noted that Senator 24 Marty has stated that he needs a recommendation by the 1st of November. 25 Mr. Willenbring explained that different areas require different levels of study. .Each study 26 area will require approximately 40 to 100 man-hours. This would be 2 to 3 weeks in each 27 area including survey time. 28 Mrs. Lockrem stated she feared the residents were going to miss the boat again. She 29 questioned if it was reasonable to think that something will be ready for the legislature. 30 Mrs. Lockrem then referred to the letter from Dorsey and Whitney dated September 17, 1997. 31 The last paragraph on the first page states, "Such a conclusion would have to be based upon 32 findings established by engineers and could not be based solely upon the desire to be of 33 assistance to homeowners." She stated that she believed the third factual piece to this is that 34 her property is used as an overflow catch basin for the City of St. Anthony but unfortunately 35 her house is on the property. This is not an either/or issue. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 8 1 Mrs. Lockrem then referred to the letter from the Fire Chief dated October 3, 1997. The first 2 paragraph under Conclusion states, "The north end of the community rarely sees a City 3 response during a storm because all of our resources are consumed on the south end. 4 Consequently, the north end residents are more self-reliant (cleaning out grates, etc.) than 5 residents on the south end." She stated that every single time it rains her husband and many 6 of the neighbors are out cleaning grates. She stated it disturbs her to see the Fire Chief make 7 an assumption like that. 8 Wagner agreed with Mrs. Lockrem that there is a lack of self-reliance on the north end. 9 Many of the grates on the north end are not cleaned out. 10 Marcia St. Hilaire, 2800 St. Anthony Boulevard, stated she was speaking this evening.on 11 behalf of her mother who owns the home at this address. She stated that in the 47 years that 12 she has been affiliated with this house, the sewer had never kept up to the rainfall. She stated 13 that as a young girl she would wade through the water and people whose cars had flooded 14 would knock on the door at 3:00 AN". and spend the night at the house. This area has been a 15 holding pond for her entire life. She noted that her mother's house has not sustained major 16 damage to the upper portion and asked that if a buyout did occur, would the home be 17 destroyed or moved. She also asked what value would be used to purchase the homes. 18 Mayor Ranallo stated this has not been discussed. Morrison stated the Task Force short-term 19 recommendations utilized the market value based on the 1997 tax assessor's figures. 20 Mike Jacobs, 2914-29th Avenue NE, noted that there were a number of people in the 21 audience who did not receive the survey sent by the City. He asked who was responsible for 22 sending out the survey. He noted he had recommended at the last meeting that the survey be 23 included in the water bill. He stated residents not receiving the survey has resulted in 24 information that is erroneous and has not been calculated properly to determine the number of 25 houses affected and the damages. 26 Morrison explained that this is why the City had the Fire Department go door to door with the 27 survey. If people were not home the survey was left on their door. Staff has now sent a 28 letter to the 55 people who filled out the initial survey. 29 A number of residents in the audience stated they had not received the letter from the City. 30 Morrison noted that the process is ongoing and this is an obvious oversight. He stated Staff is 31 working with a couple of lists and he would investigate this problem. 32 Mr. Jacobs stated he wanted the letter to be sent in the water bill because everyone reads that. 33 He noted that the St. Anthony Bulletin does not get to every house in the City. 34 Mayor Ranallo noted that this was not possible because the water bill had been sent out even 35 previous to the last City Council meeting. He suggested a letter be sent to every resident in 36 the City. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 9 1 Enrooth suggested the letter be sent with the City quarterly newsletter. He asked if there was 2 anyone in the audience who did not receive the newsletter. 3 There was no response. 4 Wagner asked if Mr. Jacobs was saying that there were a lot of people who had sustained 5 damage that were not on the list. 6 Mr. Jacobs stated there are. He stated he is part of the Task Force that has worked 7 extensively formulating the short-term necessities which in a matter of a few minutes have 8 been shot down. He stated that this is a bunch of crap. He stated that if 54 houses are 9 affected, that is the public. Even one person is the public. He questioned the purpose of the 10 Task Force if everything they suggest is shot down and not even considered. 11 Mr. Jacobs stated the new actuary tables are needed now. The Task Force is working with 12 tables from 1961. He stated the July 1 event was not a 100 year storm and cannot be blamed 13 on God. The residents need to be protected and they look to their public servants to take 14 responsibility for them. He stated he was frustrated that no one is rising to the occasion. He 15 stated he cannot apologize as the frustration runs too deep and that if this affected the 16 Councilmember's family life they would consider it differently. He noted that several of the 17 residents have a chronological history of all the flooding which has occurred in the past 40 18 years and the articles which state that nothing has been done to correct the problem. He 19 stated that he can walk out tonight with his head held high because he has tried to do 20 something right and asked if any of the Councilmembers could do the same. 21 Wagner asked if the surveys of the thirteen locations included consideration of the piping 22 which went from the City and out to other connections. 23 Mr. Willenbring stated WSB has no control over piping outside of the City border. He 24 explained that in the study WSB identifies the need to define the public benefit. The City can 25 undertake any\or all of the recommendations at the same time. WSB can begin at once. 26 Most of the resources can be done is short order. He noted it was not a good idea to have a 27 large number of engineers work on the project because that would not provide a consistent 28 approach to the study. He stated that each of.the study areas would require approximately 1.5 29 weeks or 60 hours of engineering. There are thirteen areas and if three people were working 30 on the study, a substantial report could be completed within two to three months. Preliminary 31 feedback could be provided sooner. 32 Enrooth asked if a report for submittal to Senator Marty could be completed by November 1. 33 Mayor Ranallo noted he thought Senator Marty needed a report by the end of November. 34 Mr. Willenbring stated WSB could have a product ready by then. 35 Mr. Hubmer stated WSB was close to having the resources necessary to provide a 36 recommendation and a reasonable estimated cost for the legislature. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 10 1 Mornson noted a report was also needed for submittal to FEMA and for the application for 2 Housing Assistance funds. The application for Housing Assistance funds is needed by the end 3 of October. 4 Mr. Willenbring stated a grant application describes in adequate detail the considered findings 5 and a way to sell the project. It would require considerably less detail. He stated WSB could 6 provide that type of documentation within two to six weeks. 7 Enrooth suggested Staff contact Senator Marty to reconfirm his deadline for information. 8 Mrs. Lockrem questioned what grants the City was pursuing. 9 Mornson explained that a preliminary grant application has been filed with FEMA. The other 10 grant is through the Minnesota Housing Finance Agency. 11 Mrs. Lockrem asked Mr. Willenbring to explain the difference between a 10 year and a 100 12 year storm event. 13 Mr. Willenbring explained that the U.S. Weather Bureau had collected rain measurements 14 from 1853 through 1961 and plotted the.results. They then created a table called the TP40. 15 He explained that a 100 year storm is the biggest event seen in a 100 year period. A 100 16 year storm has a 1% chance of occurring within any single year. Since 1961 there has been 17 an indication that the Twin Cities will receive a greater amount of rain during a period of 18 time than received prior to 1961. As a result some cities are designing their storm water 19 systems to accommodate 30% greater than the 100 year standard. 20 Jane Hintz, noted that at the last Task Force meeting it was agreed that they would like to see 21 a 100 year event plus the.30% for storm water capacity. 22 Mr. Willenbring acknowledged that the Task Force had voted and agreed that this is the 23 standard they would like for the future. 24 Mornson noted this motion was not presented to the City Council as those minutes have not 25 yet been approved. 26 Mornson distributed a pad to the audience and asked anyone who had not received a copy of 27 either report this evening or had not received a survey to provide their name and address. 28 Mary Jean Higgins, 2712 St. Anthony Boulevard, asked why removal of the two homes on St. 29 Anthony Boulevard would not provide enough storm water storage but removal of one home 30 on either Shamrock or Fordham would. 31 Mr. Hubmer stated that the 1992 Barr Engineering Study states that a holding pond in the 32 area of St. Anthony Boulevard would need to have the capacity of 70 acre feet of storm water 33 to contain a 100 year storm event. He explained that the property on Shamrock and the flow City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 11 1 of storm water is different. All three properties in that area have walk-outs at a low elevation 2 with adjacent catch basins. The flood water was three feet at the highest point on the 3 foundation was adjacent. It is possible that the flood proofing of all three homes and 4 regrading the backyards areas, could solve the flooding problem. He noted that the water 5 does not stand long in this area. Even after the July 1 storm the water was down in less than 6 two hours. 7 Ms. Higgins stated that she felt that there was a bigger problem on St. Anthony Boulevard 8 and that even the reduction of one home would help. 9 Mr. Hubmer stated there is also an economic side to this. It may be possible to provide 10 protection at less of a cost than purchasing the home. He also noted that the two lots together 11 are only 3/4 of an acre at the most and to provide the necessary holding pond on that size lot 12 it would have to be 140 feet deep. This would not be reasonable at this location. 13 Ms. Higgins stated that St. Anthony Boulevard is a beautiful street and an asset to the City. 14 She felt that a holding pond may distract from that but that it could possibly be landscaped. 15 She did not necessarily want a big holding pond next to her home but felt that removing the 16 Lockrem home and providing the additional green space would help the situation. 17 Mr. Hubmer stated he did not believe that the removal of a single home would prevent the 18 inundation of other homes. Most of the water in the St. Anthony Boulevard area comes in 19 from another area. If the house is removed the only water removed would be that coming 20 from the roof and the driveway. 21 Marks noted that at one time that area on St. Anthony Boulevard was swamps and 22 marshlands. He asked if the water table being high in that area could-be a contributing factor. 23 Mr. Hubmer noted that some resident's pumps on W. Armour Terrace are operating 24 continuously. He stated this could have an impact but he did not know to what extent. 25 John Kuharski, 2709 Pahl Avenue, stated he felt that the short-term solutions were being 26 combined with the long-term solutions. The Task Force's idea to buy-out the homes was a 27 short-term solution. This would not solve the problem but would help residents to not get 28 water in their basements. He stated that if the water had been another two inches lower he 29 would not have gotten water in his basement. He stated that Mr. Willenbring has stated that 30 he received all his information from the survey but the owner of the house at 2709 Armour 31 Terrace has stated that she never received a survey. The Task Force considered the home at 32 3503 Edward Street as the sixth house on their list of buy-outs because this was the first 33 occurrence of flooding to that property. Mr. Kuharski stated that on September 10, at the 34 Task Force meeting, he asked if the City could reimburse residents for damage to their home 35 due to water being stored on public property. He still has not received an answer. 36 Morrison stated that this issue was answered on Page 10 of the City's report. The City does 37 not have the discretion to reimburse residents for damage to their property. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 12 1 Mr. Kuharski stated that three weeks ago he had asked the City Council to vote on the short- 2 term solutions recommended by the Task Force. The Council did vote on the first two. He 3 asked that the Council vote on the others this. evening. The Council'should vote and get it on 4 record. 5 Steve Bartz, stated he had not gotten water in his basement but as an outsider looking in he 6 could see the frustration. He stated that his heart goes out to all involved but it seems like 7 everybody is fighting with everybody. This has to get resolved and asked what will happen if 8 the City does not receive any grant money. 9 Mayor Ranallo stated he would like WSB to start the study tomorrow morning. 10 Faust noted that the City can purchase the property if it is in the overall public good. He 11 stated that the frustration level for everyone is very. great. The goals are the same but the 12 time lines are different. The Council has a fiduciary responsibility and has to do things 13 according to state statutes. He stated he believed that if the City does not get any grant 14 money they will still do something. 15 Mr. Jacobs displayed newspaper articles dating back to 1988 in regard t o th e flooding 16 problem. He stated he could see the City finding a reason to back out and doing nothing 17 again. Everything that has been suggested by the Task Force has been shot down 18 systematically by WSB. He stated he understood that WSB worked for the City. 19 Faust stated that WSB works for all of us and that he was sorry that Mr. Jacobs felt that way. 20 He would like to work together to try to bring this issue to resolution. Faust stated the 21 residents and the Council are on the same team and the Council is doing as much as they can. 22 Mayor Ranallo commented that in 1992 when Barr's report was received and the Council 23 approved a $3.00 per quarter charge per tax payer to put money into the flood program 24 everyone complained. He stated he agrees with the Task Force recommendation to raise this 25 fee to $36 per year but knows that once again everyone is going to complain. He stated that 26 he was perturbed. There were no children at the last Council meeting, yet he received an 27 unanimous call at 10:30 P.M. stating that there was graffiti on a Councilmember's picture in 28 the City Hall. These were adults who did this, not kids. Mayor stated it saddened him to 29 have children in the audience witness this behavior from adults. 30 Mr. Jacobs stated he wanted it on record that just because his dad was well off, it did not 31 mean he would offer his son assistance and hoped that no one had that perception. 32 Mr. Kuharski stated his,son and friends were embarrassed to see a Council who were doing 33 nothing and who had done nothing for the past 20 to 40 years. He demanded to know if the 34 Council would be voting on the short-term solutions 3 through 11 that were presented by the 35 Task Force. 36 Mayor Ranallo stated he did not know. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 13 1 Wagner stated he believed that if the City was to have any chance of obtaining any funds they 2 needed to move ahead with the study immediately. He did not see any question. 3 Motion by Enrooth, second by Wagner to accept the report as presented by WSB and move 4 forward in the process immediately of collecting the information necessary to meet the grant 5 criteria as discussed this evening. 6 Motion carried unanimously. 7 8 The Council proceeded to discuss each of the short-term recommendations of the Task Force. 9 There was Council consensus that recommendations #3 and #4 had been discussed and 10 explained adequately. 11 Marks noted in regard to recommendation #5 that a moratorium on building would not have a 12 significant positive effect. 13 Mr. Willenbring stated that additional asphalt or concrete which would cover existing land 14 would have an effect on run-off. However, it would not be a significant, measurable, or 15 visibly observable effect. 16 Wagner noted that most of the redevelopment includes a holding pond. 17 Mr. Willenbring stated that as part of any redevelopment the City can require:a ponding area. 18 This would result in a benefit rather than a negative effect. 19 Marks noted that three holding ponds have been installed at Apache and one at City Hall as a 20 result of redevelopment. The redevelopment is actually having a positive effect. He 21 suggested that the City could adopt a policy to use redevelopment as an opportunity to help 22 handle the storm water. 23 Enrooth suggested the Building Inspector could be directed to specifically address the issue of 24 run-off on each building permit. 25 Morrison stated he did not feel_the Building Inspector was educated in this area. The Building 26 Inspector is aware that City Policy is that any issues regarding run-off are to be referred to 27 the appropriate City Staff. This has been City Policy since it was recommended in the Ban 28 Engineering Study of 1992. Developments of 2.5 acres or more are also required to abide by 29 the Watershed District requirements. Staff also advises any development, even if less than 2.5 30 acres, to check with the Watershed District. 31 There was Council consensus that this issue was being adequately addressed without the use 32 of a moratorium on building in the City. 33 Ms. Hintz stated there is a rumor that the Town and Country property is being sold and will 34 be developed into townhomes and condominiums. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 14 1 Wagner stated that property is not zoned residential and townhomes could not be built without 2 the approval of the City Council. 3 Mayor Ranallo noted that the Atwood property was commercial but was rezoned to residential 4 and was required to install holding ponds. Wagner stated that holding ponds were required 5 for the Village Green townhome development where he lives. 6 In regard to recommendation #6, Morrison stated that the recommendation is to change the 7 sump pump ordinance by May 1, 1998. The current ordinance requires inspection at the point 8 of sale. This was done for economic purposes. Staff will draft a revised ordinance for Task 9 Force review. The ordinance change will then require three readings. 10 Enrooth noted the White Bear Lake ordinance on sump pumps was very stringent. He stated 11 he would supply a copy of that ordinance to Staff. 12 Morrison noted that the City of Plymouth's ordinance only allows residents one year for 13 compliance and if residents do not allow an inspection, they can be fined up to $100. 14 Mayor Ranallo asked if the change to the ordinance could be accelerated. 15 Morrison stated Staff can begin to work on the Ordinance immediately and possibly have a 16 draft by the November 4 City Council meeting. 17 Mr. Jacobs noted that White Bear Lake was part of the National Insurance Program and 18 comp liance with the ordinance is mandatory to maintain insurance coverage. 19 There was Council consensus that recommendation #7 and #8 were not feasible as the Fire 20 Department did not have enough man hours and the cost factor involved. There was a 21 question of who would be allowed to use the six generators if there were ten generators 22 needed and also a liability issue. 23 In regard to recommendation #9, Morrison reported that the suggested sources of funding are 24 available. There was Council consensus to proceed with the increase in the storm sewer rates 25 of $9.00 per quarter. This will be included on the November 4 City Council agenda for 26 consideration. Morrison noted that Staff has sought to secure outside funding at the Special 27 Session of the Legislature, through the DNR, Metropolitan Council, etc., and both Hennepin 28 and Ramsey Counties as well as federal funds. None of these sources could assist due to the 29 lack of funding and the fact that St. Anthony exceeds income limits. Staff is currently 30 working with the Minnesota Housing Finance Agency and FEMA for flood protection grants. 31 There was Council consensus that recommendations #10 and #11 had been discussed and 32 explained adequately. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 15 1 B. Councilmembers - None. 2 3 C. M_Uor - None. 4 5 D. City Manager. 6 1. New Public Works Director. 7 Mornson reported that the new Public Works Director is Jay Hartman, who is a 16 8 year employee with the City. He was unable to attend the meeting this evening as he 9 is currently finishing his Business Administrative Degree but will be at the November 10 3 Truth in Taxation meeting. Mornson noted the upcoming retirement party for Larry 11 Hamer and reminded Council of the deadline for the form. 12 2. Meeting - 37th Avenue NE 13 Mornson reported about a meeting last Thursday in regard to safety issues on 37th 14 Avenue NE which was attended by the School District Superintendent, Ramsey County 15 Commissioner and the Wilshire Park Elementary School Principal. Safety concerns 16 have been raised for students crossing 37th Avenue NE. It was agreed that 17 representatives of the six jurisdictions involved, Hennepin and Ramsey Counties, St. 18 Anthony, New Brighton, Roseville, and the School District, will meet and discuss the 19 issue. 20 3. Meeting with Falcon Heights and Lauderdale re: Police Services 21 Mornson reported the meeting went great. The contracts will expire in 1998. Staff 22 will begin working on the new contracts. 23 4. Meeting Dates 24 Mornson noted the November 11 Regular Meeting will be November 4 at 8:00 P.M. 25 due to the local election. The Council's Regular Meeting schedule to the end of the 26 year will be as follows: October 28, November 4, November 25, December 3, and 27 December 17. 28 5. Neighborhood Meetings 1998 Street Projects 29 Mornson reported the neighborhood meetings for the 1998 Street Projects, including 30 the 33rd Avenue NE improvements are scheduled for October 21. 31 6. Liquor Store Update 32 Mornson reported installation of the new roof membrane was started today and will 33 cost $25,000 to $35,000. Most of the windows are in and they are still anticipating 34 opening between-November 11 and 15. Part of the purchase of the Tires Plus property 35 included the installation of a tire storage area in an amount not to exceed $6,800. This 36 cost has now been estimated at $9,800. The owner of Tires Plus has agreed to pay the 37 extra $3,000. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 16 1 7. Hennepin County Road Contract 2 Morrison stated the Hennepin County Road Contract which reimburses the City 3 $10,250 for snow and sand removal will be on the October 28 agenda. 4 8. Compton's Cleaning Contract 5 Morrison reported the Compton's Cleaning Contract will be on the October 28 agenda. 6 They are providing an excellent service and are not proposing an increase in rate. 7 9. Clark Station Property Update 8 Morrison reported there is a developer interested in developing townhomes on this site. 9 The project is currently in the site plan review stage and Staff is paying special 10 attention to the drainage issues on the site. 11 10. Kenzie Terrace 12 Morrison reported the City closed on this home two weeks ago. DKH bid $6,000 to 13 demolish the home, compared to Belair Builder's bid of$7,500 and was awarded the 14 job. 15 11. ACTION Request 16 Morrison reported this request will be on the October 28 agenda. 17 Mayor Ranallo read a note that was left by Anthony Kazcor in regard to graffiti on the traffic 18 signal at 33rd Avenue and the bus stop. He asked that the City adopt a zero tolerance policy 19 to graffiti. 20 VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS - None. 21 IX. NEW BUSINESS. 22 A. Resolution 97-046, re: Building Inspector Contract. 23 Motion by Marks, second by Enrooth to approve Resolution 97-046, appointing a Building 24 Official and approving the Agreement for Building Inspection services. 25 26 Motion carried unanimously. 27 B. Resolution 97-047, re: Application for Community Rehabilitation Funds. 28 Motion by Marks, second by Faust to approve Resolution 97-047, authorizing application for 29 Community Rehabilitation Funds from the Minnesota Housing Finance Agency Program. 30 Motion carried unanimously. 31 C. Ordinance 1997-010, re: Amending Cable Franchise Ordinance ( 1st Reading 32 Mayor Ranallo reported that the Cable Franchise needs to be renewed but at this point that 33 needs to be stalled due to ownership problems. This Ordinance will allow the Franchise to 34 continue until January 19, 1998. Hopefully by that time a new owner will be in place and a 35 new Franchise Agreement will be provided. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 14, 1997 Page 17 1 Motion by Wagner, second by Marks to approve the 1st reading of Ordinance 1997-010, 2 amending Cable Franchise Ordinance 1982-009, Article 11., Section 4, Franchise Term. 3 Motion carried unanimously. 4 X. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - None. 5 XI. ADJOURNMENT. 6 Motion by Marks, second by Enrooth to adjourn the meeting at 9:40 P.M. 7 Motion carried unanimously. 8 Respectfully submitted, 9 Lorri Kopischke 10 Timesaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. 11 12 Mayor 13 ATTEST: 14 City Clerk I CITY OF ST. ANTHONY 2 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING MINUTES 3 OCTOBER 28, 1997 4 I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL. 5 The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led by 6 Mayor Ranallo. 7 H. ROLL CALL. 8 Councilmembers Present: Ranallo, Marks, Enrooth, Wagner, and Faust. 9 Also Present: City Manager Michael Momson and City Attorney William Soth. 10 Councilmembers Absent: None. 11 III. APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 28, 1997 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA. 12 Motion by Marks, second by Wagner to approve the October 28, 1997 Regular Council 13 Meeting Agenda as presented. 14 15 Motion carried unanimously. 16 IV. APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 14, 1997 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING 17 MINUTES. 18 Motion by Marks, second by Enrooth to approve the October 14, 1997 City Council Regular 19 Meeting Minutes with the following changes: 20 Page 14, Line 3: Replace "Atwood" with "Autumnwood". 21 Page 14, Line 5: Replace "Village Green" with "Village Commons". 22 Motion carried unanimously. 23 V. LICENSES/PERMITS/PETITIONS. 24 A. Licenses and Permits. 25 Motion by Marks, second by Enrooth to approve the following licenses: 26 Heating_License: 27 D.A. Distribution dba: Condor Fireplace & Stone Company, Spring Lake Park, MN 28 Care Air Conditioning & Heating Inc., New Brighton, MN 29 Whelan-Davis Company, Inc., Bloomington, MN 30 Silvernail Enterprises, LTD, Robbinsdale, MN 31 Metro Sheet Metal, Inc., Maplewood, MN 32 Motor Vehicle Starting License: 33 Sroga's Automotive Services, Inc., 3201 Stinson Blvd., MN 34 Motion carried unanimously. •p r City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1997 Page 2 1 B. Ron Hansen, re: Signage in the City. 2 Ron Hansen, 3220 Belden Drive, stated he was present this evening as he was a long time 3 advocate of good signage in the City and he believed that there have been a lot of things done 4 lately which are destroying the good image of the City of St. Anthony. He then distributed 5 pictures of signage at various locations in the City. He noted that the City had spent a lot of 6 money to create the new signage code and owes it to the taxpayers to do a better job policing 7 the code. Of the pictures distributed he called attention to signage on New Brighton 8 Boulevard at the entrance to the City, a Rapid Oil Change banner, and a sign at the 9 Stonehouse. 10 Mr. Hansen stated that the issue that prompted him to be present this evening is the dental 11 office of Dr. Osterbauer located at 3525 33rd Avenue. On September 14, 1997, the sign on 12 this building was removed. Mr. Hansen then contacted the Public Works Director and 13 Management.Assistant and asked them to please investigate the situation to determine if the 14 proposed signage was in conformance with the new signage ordinance. Mr. Hansen stated 15 that he called the City twelve times between September 14 and October 4, 1997, when the. 16 new signage was installed. Mr. Hansen stated that during one call to Management Assistant, 17 he was told that the matter had been discussed with the City Attorney and the City Attorney 18 had stated that the signage was in conformance. Upon the Management Assistant stating that 19 she did not have time to pursue the issue, it was turned over to the City Manager. At this 20 pont, Mr. Hansen asked if he could be placed on the Council agenda to address the issue. 21 Mr. Hansen noted a letter from City Attorney William Soth dated October 23, 1997. This 22 letter does not address the question of conformance with the new sign ordinance but addresses 23 the issues of expansion of a non-conforming structure as addressed in Section 1660. 24 The request from Dr. Osterbauer included the addition of a 60 square foot lit monument sign 25 rather than the previous 2 by 2 foot sign, and also a wall sign. This request for additional 26 signage clearly required a variance and a public hearing, and is an important issue to the 27 people that live in the area and pay taxes. He noted that the application for this signage was 28 not even in conformance with the code. He also noted that Councilmember Enrooth's 29 campaign signs were not in compliance with the Ordinance. 30 31 Mr. Hansen stated that the new signage is larger than the signage for Apache Medical Center 32 and a nearby church. He noted that the ordinance allows for inspection of signs which are 33 permitted. He asked if the City performs inspections and if so, is there written documentation 34 of the inspection results. 35 Morrison stated the City performs inspections on all projects and provides written 36 documentation on major projects. 37 Mr. Hansen noted that if the footings are loose or if the electrical is incorrectly installed at 38 3525 33rd Avenue, there is a possibility of injury. He stated he was present this evening to 39. make an appeal of an alleged error in the determination made in enforcement of the ordinance S , City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1997 Page 3 1 in regard to the new sign at 3525 33rd.Avenue. He asked that the wrong done on the sign at 2 that location be corrected. 3 Mr. Hansen then noted that the City Cable Channel 15 frequently.contains outdated 4 information. He stated that the Council meetings should be on Cable so that residents could 5 hear what is going on. He asked who was responsible for updating the channel. 6 Morrison stated he was responsible for updating the channel. 7 Mr. Hansen noted that there have been times when the channel has not been updated for over 8 three months. He suggested the City had an opportunity to make residents aware of what is 9 happening in the City and encouraged them to use the Cable Channel. 10 Mr. Hansen stated that he would like a written synapsis of what had happened with the sign at 11 3525 33rd Avenue. He would like to know why a non-conforming sign was allowed to be 12 constructed on this site. He would expect this feedback in a timely manner. 13 City Attorney, William Soth, stated that in his letter of October 23, 1997, he had responded to 14 the issue of whether a sign could be placed on a non-conforming use. He stated he had not 15 been furnished with any information in regard to the size of the signage and whether it 16 conformed to this requirement. 17 There was Council direction to Staff to work with the City Attorney and develop a report of 18 what had occurred in regard to the signage at 3525 33rd Avenue. 19 Wagner commented that there are "temporary" signs placed in the City which remain too 20 long. This is an issue that needs to be policed. 21 Enrooth noted that he had-placed his campaign signs based on the information that was 22 provided to him. 23 24 C. Presentation of a Retirement Plaque to Steve Koes, 30 Year Employee with the City. 25 Mayor Ranallo reported that Steve Koes, who has been employed with the City of St. 26 Anthony since 1967, will be retiring at the end of the month. He noted that Mr. Koes had 27 also served as a volunteer fire fighter for the City during that time. He presented Mr. Koes 28 with a Retirement Plaque in appreciation of his outstanding and faithful service to the City of 29 St. Anthony. An Open House will be held in honor of Mr. Koes on Friday, October 31 at 30 2:00 P.M. at City Hall. Mayor Ranallo thanked Mr. Koes for all the service he had done for 31 St. Anthony and noted it had been a pleasure working with Mr. Koes. 32 Mr. Koes thanked the City of St. Anthony. 33 34 VI. PRESENTATION OF CLAIMS. 35 Motion by Marks, second by Enrooth to approve the following claims: City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1997 Page 4 1 A. General: 2 1. Rieke Carroll Muller Associates, Inc. 3 a. In the.amount of$22,352.91 for professional services rendered from 4 August 31 to September 27, 1997 in regard to 33rd Avenue Design. 5 b. In the amount of$2,151.50 for professional services rendered from 6 August 31 to September 27, 1997 in regard to 1997 Street/Watermain 7 Improvements Construction. 8 C. In the amount of $4,936.61 for professional services rendered from 9 August 31 to September 27, 1997 in regard to 1998 Street 10 Improvements Design/Bidding. 11 Motion carried unanimously. 12 13 Motion by Marks, second by Faust to approve the following claims: 14 B. SAV II: 15 1. HTW Investment Partners, Inc. in the amount of$1,908.00 for payment of the _ 16 storm sewer line constructed on Lot 4 for the benefit of Lot 5 per the 17 Reciprocal Easement Agreement with Freedom Gas Station, Lot 4, Block 1, 18 Silver Lake Road. 19 2. Lund Martin Construction in the amount of$100,700.00 for Pay Application 20 #3. 21 C. Storm Water: 22 1. WSB & Associates, Inc. in the amount of$2,693.00 for professional services 23 rendered September 1 through September 30, 1997 in regard to the Storm 24 Drainage Task Force. 25 D. 3 pages of Verified Claims as presented by the Finance Director. 26 Motion carried unanimously. 27 VII. REPORTS: 28 A. Planning Commission - October 21, 1997. 29 Planning Commissioner Richard Horst was present to report on the issues addressed at the 30 October 21, 1997, Planning Commission meeting. There were no public hearings at that 31 meeting. The Commission did consider a concept review of the Salvation Army Silver Lake 32 Camp long range plan and a proposed townhome construction at 33rd Avenue and Stinson 33 Boulevard. The townhome project will require a variance which will be presented at the 34 November Planning Commission meeting. 35 Marks asked if a map had been provided which illustrated the location of the buildings for the 36 Silver Lake Camp and if any of the proposed buildings were located near the shoreline. 37 Horst stated that the long range plan included renovation in locations where buildings are 38 currently located. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1997 Page 5 1 Faust commented that the Silver Lake Camp has had a master plan in place since the mid 2 1980's. All of the buildings located there are in conformance with shoreline requirements. 3 1. Ordinance 1997-011, re: Lot Coverage and Parking for Schools, Churches, 4 Temples and Synagogues. 5 Planning Commissioner Horst reported that the Commission had considered the proposed 6 amendment to the Zoning Ordinance re: Schools, Churches, Temples and Synagogues. After 7 lengthy discussion, the Commission voted unanimously to recommend approval of the 8 amendment to the Ordinance per Ms. Moore-Sykes memo of September 23 and including the 9 minor wording changes discussed. 10 Marks questioned the 35% lot coverage requirement. 11 Horst explained that the 35% lot coverage did not pertain to permitted and permitted 12 conditional uses as listed in Section 1615.05. Those uses will are addressed in Subd. 9 13 Building- to Land Ratio. The impervious surfaces, such as the parking area, are not included 14 in the building to lot ratio. 15 Marks clarified that the sidewalks and landscaping which used plastic ground coverings were 16 also not included in the building to land ratio. 17 City Attorney Soth noted he had reviewed proposed Ordinance 1997-011. Subdivisions 9 and 18 10 of Section 1615.05 remain unchanged, but he had revised the other paragraphs of the 19 ordinance considerably in an effort to make them clearer and more specific. 20 Mayor Ranallo noted that this ordinance requires only one reading for approval. 21 Motion by Wagner, second by Marks to approve Ordinance 1997-011, relating to zoning and 22 land use; establishing regulations for non-residential uses in the R-1 District amending 23 Sections 1605.01, Subd. 44; 1615.05; and 1650.05, Subd. I(f), of the 1993 St. Anthony Code 24 of Ordinances. 25 26 Motion carried unanimously. 27 Mayor Ranallo noted that St. Charles Borromeo Church would still require a conditional use 28 permit. He asked when the Church would be soliciting bids. 29 Gerry DeZelar, architect for St. Charles Borromeo Church, stated the intent is to solicit bids 30 for the addition to the Church and obtain a building permit the first part of November. 31 Mayor Ranallo requested that St. Charles go out for bids pending approval_ by the City of the 32 conditional use permit. 33 Mr. DeZelar agreed to this. z City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1997 Page 6 1 B. Councilmembers. 2 Marks reported that negotiations continue for the visit of members of the "Hans" Band from 3 Salo, Finland in the Spring of 1998. Approximately 35 people are expected and the Sister 4 Committee is currently looking for host families. Marks asked that if anyone is interested in 5 being a host family, they contact him or City Hall. 6 Faust reported his attendance at the Storm Water Task Force meeting last Wednesday. The p g Y 7 Task Force gave direction to the hydraulic engineer and will meet again on December 2, 8 1997. This will allow the engineer time to gather information in regard to the thirteen areas. 9 Wagner reported his attendance at the Park Task Force meeting on October 20, 1997. The 10 Task Force is requesting that the City Council approve construction of a tot lot immediately 11 behind the community services portion of the City Hall. This will provide a play area for 12 children in the community, meet the requirements by law, and fulfill the promise made by the 13 City. The Task Force would also like to locate a larger, multi-age equipment playground near 14 the water tower. 15 Wagner noted that there are many options being considered for Central Park and the decision 16 process may take quite some time. The space for location of the tot lot is available. The tot 17 lot would affect the size of a major ballfield in Central Park but not a minor ballfield. 18 Motion by Wagner, second by Enrooth to authorize the construction of a 5,000 square foot tot 19 lot near the community services behind the City Hall. 20 Motion carried unanimously. 21 Mayor Ranallo noted that the funds for the tot lot have been set aside in the budget. 22 Enrooth reported his attendance at a neighborhood meeting in regard to the project on 33rd 23 Avenue. At the meeting, the residents questioned if it is the intention of the City to plow the 24 sidewalks on 33rd Avenue to Highcrest. 25 Mayor Ranallo stated that the City currently plows the sidewalk and intends to continue. 26 Faust asked if this was a City policy. 27 There was Council direction for Staff to determine if plowing of the sidewalks is a City 28 policy or just an accepted and understood practice. 29 C. Mayor. 30 Mayor Ranallo reported his attendance at Wilshire Park School to explain government to the 31 children. This was a well attended event. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1997 Page 7 1 Mayor Ranallo reported that today he and the Chamber of Commerce met with interested 2 senior high students to teach them how to successfully complete the interview process. This 3 went very well. . 4 Mayor Ranallo reported that on election night, November 4, 1997, Cable Channel 15 will start 5 programming at 8:30 P.M. and will cover all the elections in the ten cities that the system 6 covers. There will be a core group in Roseville, Shoreview, New Brighton, and St. Anthony. 7 Mayor Ranallo reported that he has volunteered to chair the group in St. Anthony. The four 8 Councilmember candidates will be interviewed in St. Anthony at 9:50, 10:25, 10:50, and 9 11:10 P.M. The School Board candidates will be interviewed at 9:05 and 9:30 P.M. Mayor 10 Ranallo asked for volunteers for the noted interviews. 11 Enrooth volunteered for 11:10 P.M. interview, Brian Theusen the 10:25 P.M. interview, Jerry 12 Faust the 9:50 P.M. interview, and Dennis Cavanaugh was given the 10:50 P.M. interview. 13 D. City Manager. 14 Mornson reminded Councilmembers of the change in meeting dates. The November 11 15 Regular Meeting will be November 4 at 8:00 P.M. The Council's Regular Meeting schedule 16 to the end of the year will be as follows: November 4, November 25, December 3, and 17 December 17. 18 Mornson reported there will be a private showing of the new Liquor Store on November 13 19 which will include the vendors, City Councilmembers, Chamber of Commerce, and the 20 contractors. The Liquor Store will open on November 18. Liquor Operations Manager will 21 be holding a grand opening celebration from November 18 to December 31. 22 Planning Commissioner Horst asked if the Planning Commission would also be invited to the 23 private showing. 24 Mornson stated he would mention this to Liquor Operations Manager. 25 Mornson reported that it had been planned to install the new roof decking on the Liquor Store 26 building over the existing roof decking at a cost of$35,000. It has since been determined 27 that the old decking will need to be removed and the new decking installed. This will be a 28 one day project and will cost $10,000. However, it will require the Tires Plus Store to be 29 closed for one day. Mornson and Liquor Operations Manager will be meeting with the owner 30 of Tires Plus to determine compensation for loss of business for that day. The compensation 31 may be in the form of a rent reduction. 32 Mornson reported the Finance Director has reported that the third quarter liquor sales have 33 resulted in a $45,000 net income. This is a $5,000 increase over last year. 34 Mornson reported that the City is currently involved in negotiations with the three unions and 35 hopes to have a tentative agreement on the December 17, 1997 agenda. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1997 Page 8 1 Morrison reported he will be meeting with WSB, the City of Plymouth and the City of White 2 Bear Lake to discuss the Sump Pump Ordinance. The aforementioned cities have changed 3 their ordinance and hired an engineering firm or an inspection team to inspect homes for 4 compliance six months after their ordinances were in effect. 5 Morrison reported the Task Force has requested that the change to the Storm Sewer 6 Ordinance, which would increase the quarterly fee from $3.00 to $9.00, be delayed until 7 December 2, 1997. This will allow time for WSB to determine the sewer improvements and 8 estimate the cost. The amount of increase can then be determined. 9 Mayor Ranallo expressed his frustration that the Task Force has been criticizing the City for 10 not taking any action and when the City tries to take action, the Task Force asks them to wait. 11 Faust noted that the Task Force felt it would be more prudent to wait and obtain more expert 12 advice. This suggestion was approved by unanimous vote at the Task Force meeting. 13 Enrooth stated this made sense as it would then be part of the plan rather than just an 14 increase. 15 Morrison reported that Senator Marty's assistant has asked that they be provided information 16 in regard to the water issue by December 15, 1997. 17 Morrison reported that an Open House will be held for Public Works Director Larry Hamer 18 on November 20 from 2:00 to 3:30 P.M. at City Hall. 19 VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS. 20 Anthony Kaczor, 3008-33rd Avenue, suggested that street lights be installed on 33rd Avenue 21 in conjunction with that street project. He noted that the removal of the Parkview Building 22 resulted in the loss of the lights on the front of the building and it has become very dark. 23 Mayor Ranallo noted that the installation of street lights is generally approved by residents on 24 the street. In this case, there are no residents on that side of the street. 25 Wagner noted that the installation of street lights would really be the replacement of the lights 26 on the Parkview building. 27 Mr. Kaczor noted that it has been proposed that the eight foot sidewalks in front of the school 28 on 33rd Avenue be replaced with five foot sidewalks. He asked that the sidewalks be 29 replaced with eight foot sidewalks. 30 Brian Theusen asked if the liquor store profits reported by the City. Manager were directly 31 related to a one time reduction in inventory or to an increase in sales. He stated that if the 32 profits were a result of a reduction in inventory, they may be deceptive. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1997 Page 9 1 Morrison reported that the inventory had been reduced at the end of 1996. The issue now is 2 to maintain a stable inventory. 3 Faust noted that profit is a function of the number of people working at the stores and the 4 scheduling. These are managerial issues and the Liquor Operations Manager is taking a 5 proactive approach. 6 John Kuharski, 2709 Pahl Avenue, reported that at the last Flood Task Force meeting it was 7 suggested that the increase in the sewer rate be postponed. The City Manager noted at that 8 meeting; that the funds would not be collected until the end of the first quarter of 1998 and 9 that this postponement would not affect the date the funds would first be collected. He stated 10 that is why he voted in favor of the postponement. 11 IX. NEW BUSINESS. 12 A. Resolution 97-045, re: Approve Plans and Specifications and Order Advertisement for 13 Bids for 1998 Street Improvements Protect. 14 Motion by Marks, second by Enrooth to approve Resolution 97-045, approving plans and 15 specifications and ordering advertisement for bids for the improvement of Edward Street, 16 from 34th Avenue NE to 35th Avenue NE; Harding Street, from 34th Avenue NE to 36th 17 Avenue NE; and Roosevelt Street, from 34th Avenue NE to 35th Avenue NE, by 18 reconstruction of the roadways and utilities. 19 Motion carried unanimously. 20 B. Resolution 97-050, re: Approve Plans and Specifications and Order Advertisement for 21 Bids for the MSA Street Improvement Project on 33rd Avenue NE. 22 Motion by Marks, second by Wagner to approve Resolution 97-050, approving plans and 23 specifications and ordering advertisement for bids for the concrete pavement repair and 24 rehabilitation on 33rd Avenue NE between Silver Lake Road and Highcrest Road. 25 Mayor Ranallo questioned the proposed width of the sidewalk in front of the school. 26 Bob Moberg; Rieke Carroll Muller Associates, stated that the existing sidewalk in front of the 27 school is eight feet in width and is deteriorating and in need of repair. The proposal will . 28 replace the sidewalk with a five foot width and the remaining area will be converted to grass 29 or boulevard. 30 Wagner asked if the sidewalk could be eight feet wide all the way to Silver Lake Road. He 31 noted that the section in front of the school is used a lot in both directions. 32 Faust-noted that children walking three abreast or playing on the sidewalk would require an 33 eight foot width. He stated that eight foot is reasonable in this area. He noted there are also 34 many children which stand and wait on the sidewalk to be picked up. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1997 Page 10 1 Mr. Moberg stated that the additional width is possible but may not be funded by State Aid 2 funds. The local government may have to share in the cost of the additional three feet. 3 There was Council direction for Mr. Moberg to check on the funding issue. 4 Mr. Moberg suggested that the Council attach a condition to Resolution 97-050, that it be 5 contingent on the approval of the variance request from Minnesota Rules for State Aid 6 Operations, Chapter 8820. 7 Marks and Wagner agreed to the proposed amendment to the motion. 8 Motion carried unanimously. 9 C. Resolution 97-051, re: Application to the Minnesota Department of Trarisportation for 10 a Speed Limit on 33rd Avenue NE. 11 Motion by Enrooth, second by Marks to approve Resolution 97-051, a resolution for a 12 variance request from Minnesota Rules for State Aid Operations, Chapter 8820, for 33rd 13 Avenue NE, from Silver Lake Road to Highcrest Road. 14 Motion carried unanimously. 15 D. Resolution 97-048, re: Cleaning Services Contract with Compton's Commercial 16 Cleaning, Inc. 17 Motion by Marks, second by Wagner to approve Resolution 97-048, approving a cleaning 18 service contract and authorizing the Mayor and City Manager to execute said contract. 19 20 Motion carried unanimously. 21 E. Resolution 97-049, re: Road Maintenance Services with Hennepin County. 22 Motion by Marks, second by Enrooth to approve Resolution 97-049, authorizing the Mayor 23 and City Manager to execute the agreement between Hennepin County and the City of St. 24 Anthony for road maintenance services. 25 Motion carried unanimously. 26 F. Discussion of City's Participation in Adults & Children Together in Our 27 Neighborhoods (ACTION). 28 Wagner reported that the Council has discussed this issue a number of times. This is the 29 Healthy Community/Healthy Youth organization which has been named locally (ACTION). 30 They are making an effort to increase the level of assets in the youth of the community. It 31 has been proven that increasing the assets of youth makes them less apt to get into trouble 32 with the law. ACTION is working with the Search Institute in providing information to the 33 public and developing programs to reach the youth. ACTION is currently operating from the 34 funds provided initially by Nativity Lutheran Church and is in need of additional funds. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1997 Page 11 1 Motion by Wagner, second by Marks to authorize the City of St. Anthony to contribute 2 $2,500 to ACTION. 3 Marks commented that this is a very positive program which helps youth develop and 4 effectively face the troubles in their lives. 5 Motion carried unanimously. 6 X. UNFINISHED BUSINESS. 7 A. Ordinance 1997-010, re: Amending Cable Franchise Ordinance ( 2nd Reading_l. 8 Motion by Marks, second by Enrooth to approve the 2nd reading of Ordinance 1997-010, 9 amending Cable Franchise Ordinance 1982-009, Article I1., Section 4, Franchise Term. 10 Motion carried unanimously. 11 XI. ADJOURNMENT. 12 Motion by Marks, second by Enrooth to adjourn the meeting at 8:24 P.M. 13 Motion carried unanimously. 14 Respectfully. submitted, 15 Lorri Kopischke 16 TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. 17 18 Mayor 19 ATTEST: 20 City Clerk 1 CITY OF ST. ANTHONY 2 Parks Advisory Task Force Meeting Minutes 3 October 20, 1997 4 7:00 P.M. 5 I. CALL TO ORDER. 6 The meeting was called to order at 7:05 P.M. 7 Present: Bill Weber, BRW, Inc.; Kim Moore-Sykes, Management Assistant; Jay 8 Hartman, Public Works; Kathy Bloomquist, Nativity Lutheran Church; Andrea 9 Stephens. 10 II. OPENING REMARKS. 11 Bill Weber, BRW, Inc:-introduced himself, stating that Bob Kost could not beat 12 - this evening's meeting. 13 III. TABULATE MATRIX AND REVIEW RESULTS. 14 Councilmember Wagner requested that the Task Force consider a recommendation 15 to the City Council that the Council proceed to act on their commitment to 16 Community Services to'replace the play area that was removed to construct the new 17 City Hall/Community Center. Wagner felt that this needs to be done as soon as 18 possible or the weather will make it difficult to do anything this year and it will 19 have to be put off until next year. Wagner.indicated that Community Services is 20 willing to provide usage of this "tot lot" on a shared basis. He felt the times that 21 the play area is available could be posted. 22 Bloomquist indicated that Nativity Lutheran Church would be interested in 23 participating in the construction of a play area that their programs could use. 24 Motion by Wagner, second by Jindra to recommend to the City Council to 25 construct a temporary play area at the NE corner of the City Hall/Community 26 Center so that the City can honor their commitment to replace the play area used 27 by Community Services programs and removed to construct the new City 28 Hall/Community Center. 29 Wagner reported that Community Services would post times when their programs 30 that would be using the play area. He stated that the play areas would be available 31 to the public for their use. He indicated that the play area would be approximately 32 4,000 square feet, which is not adequate for the number of children that want to 33 play there, but should be seen as only a temporary solution. 34 Gordhamer suggested tabling this discussion until after the matrix was discussed. 35 Wagner indicated that this project cannot be delayed until the Task Force decided 36 on an appropriate area for this play area. He also stated that he did not want this 1 play area to be tied to the Central Park redevelopment. 2 Marks stated that the Task Force needs to disassociate the commitment to 3 Community Services from the long-range planning of Central Park. 4 It was agreed that the Task Force proceed to discuss the matrix first and at 8:30 5 p.m., continue the discussion of Wagner's proposal. 6 Eberlein stated that it made more sense to consider location a play area near the 7 shelter and wadding pool at the north end of Central Park where families generally 8 go. 9 Weber and Task Force discussed the tabulation results of the matrix. There was 10 discussion regarding the implications of the results. 11 Wolff suggested that the occupancy number be used for the Community Services 12 play area rather than the times available. There was discussion regarding the size of 13 this play area. It was suggested that it should be larger than 4,000 square feet. The 14 Task Force felt that the Community Services tot lot should be constructed 15 immediately and that plans for an additional multi-age play area be developed and 16 the play area be constructed simultaneously.' It was felt that then Community 17 Services needs and the community needs could be met at the same time. The Task 18 Force could continue to develop plans for the remainder of Central Park. 19 The Task Force decided to amend the Wagner/Jindra motion to construct the 20 largest possible temporary play area without affecting adjacent ball fields at the most 21 economical expenditure for purchase of play equipment at the NE corner of the 22 City Hall/Community Center building. 23 Motion carried unanimously. 24 IV. FORMULATION OF FINAL PLAY AREA LOCATIONS. 25 There was discussion to develop an additional multi-age play area at the water 26 tower. It was also suggested that access to a restroom facility at this location is 27 necessary. 28 Motion by Marks, second by Bloom, to locate a multi-age play area in the vicinity 29 of the water tower and to provide restroom facilities at this location. 30 Motion carried unanimously. 31 V. OTHER BUSINESS. 32 Wolff stated that she supports putting the skating rink back behind the City 33 Hall/Community Center. 1 VI. COMMENTS. 2 1. The next meeting is scheduled for November 17, 1997. It was decided to 3 discuss the grade of equipment, cost and funding sources. 4 VII. ADJOURNMENT. 5 Meeting adjourned at 8:55 p.m. 6 Respectfully submitted, 7 Kim Moore-Sykes, 8 Management Assistant 1 CITY OF ST. ANTHONY 2 STORM WATER MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE 3 MEETING MINUTES 4 October 15, 1997 5 7:00 P.M. 6 Conference Room 7 I. CALL TO ORDER. 8 The meeting was called to order at 7:12 P.M. 9 TASK FORCE MEMBERS PRESENT. 10 Also present were: Pete Willenbring, WSB; Todd Hubmer, WSB; Mike Morrison, 11 City Manager and Kim Moore-Sykes, Management Assistant; Jay Hartman, Public 12 Works Superintendent. 13 Sign-in sheet attached. 14 II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA. 15 Motion by Otte, second by Kozarek to approve the agenda. 16 Motion carried unanimously. 17 III. REVIEW OF SEPTEMBER 24, 1997 MINUTES. 18 Motion by Otte, second by Kozarek to approve the September meeting minutes. 19 Lockrem stated that the minutes need to be corrected to reflect that her home has 20 flooded other times as well. 21 Motion carried unanimously. 22 IV. COMMENTS/UPDATES FROM CO-CHAIRS. 23 Co-Chair Jacobs absent. Co-Chair Kozarek summarized the City Council meeting, 24 stating that the Council's action on the task force's recommendations will be 25 reported later in the meeting. 26 V. COMMENTS/UPDATE FROM CITY STAFF ON ACTIVITIES SINCE LAST 27 MEETING. 28 The City Manager reported that the City submitted applications to MHFA, which 29 has $150,000 available for flood mitigation and home buy-outs and to FEMA, which 30 has made $550,000 available for flood mitigation projects as well. He reported that 31 he met recently with Senator Marty's assistant, who repeated that the City must 32 have its long term flood recommendations and plan to Senator Marty's office by 33 December 15th. Senator Marty's assistant indicated that St. Anthony may have 34 problems getting funding as most agencies are looking for collaboration between 35 regional jurisdictions as part of the project. 36 The City Manager reported that the City Council has received a legal opinion from 37 the City Attorney regarding the purchasing of homes. The City Attorney reported 38 that the City is not legally able to purchase individual properties unless a city-wide 39 benefit can be established, e.g. for the construction of a storm water retention basin. 1 The City Manager reported that the Council has asked WSB to put together a 2 proposal to study the recommendation in a city-wide context. 3 VI. WSB PROPOSAL TO INVESTIGATE CITY-WIDE PROBLEM AREAS. 4 Willenbring discussed WSB's proposal to divide the City into 13 areas, grid and 5 study each area separately. He indicated that they plan to study water levels and 6 the number of properties that were and have been impacted by the flooding in St. 7 Anthony. He said that at the end of the study, it is hoped that the grid will show 8 problem areas and at that time, a determination will be made as to what should be 9 done; buy homes, provide technical assistance, etc. 10 Faust indicated that whatever is done, it has to provide city-wide benefit. 11 12 Cavanaugh said that need to get ideas into action form. He asked the question if 13 WSB was the best one to draw up the proposal that would go to Council. He felt 14 technical assistance needs to be more defined. 15 Willenbring stated that the proposal will be dealing with the two original City 16 issues: 1.) buying homes; and 2.) provide technical assistance. WSB will also be 17 looking at these 13 areas and the flooding problems affecting each area. The 18 proposal will include the most cost effective method to deal with those problems. 19 Lockrem stated that she, felt that the City Manager and the City Council have more 20 information that the public has. She also stated that she is worried that any grant 21 money the City receives will be eaten up by WSB study hours. 22 Willenbring responded by explaining the process of the study. He indicated that 23 each area will probably take an average of 60 hours. He said that some of the 13 24 areas may take 100 hours but other areas may only take 40 hours to study. 25 The City Manager stated that the City Council did not have prior knowledge; that 26 the City adopted WSB's recommendation just to get things going. 27 Willenbring reviewed page 6 of the WSB recommendation. WSB report 'indicated 28 that no homes be bought until: 1.) the public purpose is defined. A recom- 29 mendation can not be provided until the legal requirements are addressed. 2.) The 30 City needs to define a level of protection for homes. Willenbring reported these 31 two issues have been discussed in previous task force meetings. He indicated.that 32 there is a need to look at the flooding events that occurred in 1987 and 1997 and 33 the impact they had on the 13 areas. He said that these areas will also be evaluated 34 to determine the level, if any, of annual flooding events. He stated they will begin 35 to evaluate areas that seem to be more problematic than other areas. Another issue 36 to be resolved, and which will give the City a logical and economical place to start, 37 is to determine the level of water that will be acceptable to stand in the streets. 38 Willenbring suggested establishing a storm event that could be a standard City-wide. 39 He also indicated that funding mechanisms need to be established to pay for 40 solutions. 3.) Willenbring stated that sanitary and storm sewer systems are two 41 separate issues and have to be dealt with in that way. 4.) He also stated that the 42 recommended prioritization of home buy-outs need to be re-evaluated based on the 43 data used by the Task Force and that data collected as the result of the WSB 44 proposed study. Willenbring stressed it is important not to set a precedent that 1 cannot be established and uniformly supported. He indicated that if the plan is not 2 justifiable, the process will be viewed as flawed. He stated that it is WSB's intention 3 to help the Task Force, not stop their work or the process. 4 There was discussion about the City of Plymouth's sump pump ordinance and an 5 increase in storm water rates. 6 Cavanaugh asked why the City didn't adopt high rates, such as $19.00 per quarter. 7 Hubmer reviewed the process to set up a storm water utility and possible fee setting 8 strategies. He indicated that sometimes a city is able to ask for and get approval for 9 higher rates, if the justification seems rational. He also indicated that residents may 10 not be agreeable to higher rates. 11 12 The City Manager questioned if it made sense to develop a capital storm water plan 13 and work toward getting rates that would support the funding of the capital plan. 14 Hubmer agreed. 15 Motion by Otte, second by Maxwell to postpone establishing storm water rates 16 until the report comes back from WSB. 17 Hubmer stated that WSB can provide the report by December 15th. 18 19 Motion carried unanimously. 20 Maxwell stated with regard to the sump pump ordinance, currently sump pumps in 21 the City have to be inspected at the point of sale. Those who have improper 22 connections to the sanitary sewer, she felt must be forced to comply now. 23 VII. PREPARE TENTATIVE AGENDA AND TIME FOR NEXT MEETING. 24 Hubmer stated that he could research the sump pump issue more. Hartman, City 25 Public Works, was asked if he knew how many residences were out of compliance. 26 Hubmer stated that the Task Force could look at determining a level of protection, 27 assuming a 10-year event for the City streets. 28 The next meeting was set for December 2, 1997 at 7:00 p.m., prior to the City 29 Council meeting, which is scheduled for December 3, 1997. 30 VIII. ADJOURNMENT. 31 Motion by Kozarek, second by Otte to adjourn the meeting at 8:50 p.m. 32 Motion carried unanimously. 33 34 Respectfully submitted, 35- Kim Moore-Sykes, 36 Management Assistant STORM WATER MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE MEETING October 15, 1997 7:00 P.M. SIGN IN SHEET Name Address LLD 3o tU /,T. Fiat NV �/ �S D S•�� Cra�f— �Y A)(— L �a� F 3a I I> S? a)E-- 40acl S h a rn r'o cit C :ti--,�- ',j\��`1' ...i'� _ tl�� ` _�^G_•••.��i 10-: F`� V