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CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
COUNCIL MINUTES
December 9 , 1980
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Haik at 7: 30 P.M.
Present for roll call: Letourneau, Ranallo, Haik, Sundland and Marks.
Also. present: . Jim Fornell., City Manager; Ron Berg; Administrative Assistant;
William. Soth,City Attorney- and Carol Johnson, Clerk/Treasurer.
The minutes for- the special Council work session held November 20 , 1980 ,
were corrected to indicate the meeting was adjourned at "8 : 30 P.M. "
rather than "7 :30 P.M. " .
Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Councilman Ranallo to
approve as corrected the minutes for the Council work session held
November 20 , 1980 .
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Councilman Marks to approve
as submitted the minutes for the regular Council meeting held November
20 , 1980 , following the work session.
Motion carried unanimously.
• The minutes for the special Council meeting held November 25th to select
a planning firm to study the revitalization/redevelopment options for
the Kenzie Terrace area and to appoint the Kenzie Terrace Task Force
were amended to strike. from the motion appointing the task force members
the words "and Councilman Marks will check with Mr. Pulscher on his
service" .
Motion by Councilman Letourneau and seconded by Councilman Ranallo to
approve as amended. the minutes for the special Council meeting held
November 25 , 1980 .
Motion carried unanimously.
Doug Jones presented the recommendations to the Council made by the
Planning Commission during their meeting November 18 , 1980 , as reflected
in the minutes of that meeting. He reported the public hearing on the
proposed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to include video tape sales
and rentals as a conditional use in a C, commercial district lasted
for over two hours with the 30 to 40 persons in attendance expressing
their objections to the ordinance change because they perceived the video
movie center now operating in Apache would be dispensing and demonstrating
pornographic materials . He quoted various objections made by those
present as well a's the questions which the Commission members indicated
they believed should be researched before any decision to modify the
ordinance is made. Mr. Jones then read the Commission' s recommendation. ,-
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ecommendation. _that the Council take no action on the proposed amendment.
The Planning Commission representative said the absence of the proprietor
of the video center was one of the deciding points in the Commission' s
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decision although Mr. Berg had explained he had told the store owner
his presence- was .not necessary until a conditional use permit request
is made. . He -also reported that the Administrative Assistant had cautioned
the Commission that, in the opinion of the City Attorney, the City might
face the expensive proposition of having to .go all the way to the Supreme
Court .to defend ,a decision -.of-denial-because of .p:ornography. Joseph
Dudley, Jr. ,. 1250 West' First.Natibna-I Bank Building; St. Paul, counsel
for Worth Ochs , owner of the Video .Movie Center in the Apache Plaza
shopping center, said his client- "had not been invited to the Planning
Commissions hearing in November to answer questions about the store;
was not selling pornographic movies; doesn' t own any other stores of
the same type as the one in Apache , and. .has a 'family oriented'
operation" . He said Mr. Ochs does demonstrate on a video replayer,
which can be purchased through the store, cassettes from the general
film field which are sold in the store but the store is neither a
"pornographic movie house;' .nor- an "adult bookstore"' with no comparison
to be drawn with the type of operations found on Hennepin Avenue and
.St. Paul'. He. said Mr. Ochs is interested only in dispensing "high
class" materialswhere costs are such "they will be affordable only
to the middle class family" . The attorney said videotapes and cassettes
are the "hottest items on the market today" and. Mr. Ochs anticipates
he .will do well at the Apache location.- He urged the Council to include
this type of _sales in its permitted uses and not to- table the request,
as recommended by the Planning Commission, which he believes the
City Attorney would agree would be "prior restraint .on Mr. Ochs and a
limitation of his rights as well as possible harm to his reputation" .
Elie J. Dubay, 3012 - 32nd Avenue .N.E.., was upset because he had not
known a lawyer would be representing Mr. Ochs at this meeting, commenting
he didn' t believe "residents should have to retain a lawyer to appear
before the Council" . He drew a comparison with the store and the
Fun Center in the St. Anthony Shopping Center which he said he had
opposed. He didn' t think the policy of "always having the best in
St. Anthony" would be continued with this store and thanked the Planning
Commission for listening to the opposition to the store and recommended
no action to the change in the ordinance which will permit the operation.
Mayor Haik then addressed those present by telling them she believed
the controversy had arisen when .a connection had mistakenly been made
between Mr. Och' s store in Apache and the request for a video store
in St. Anthony Shopping Center whose owners had indicated to City staff
they intended to sell "x-rated materials under the counter" for which
no follow-.up has been made. ' "This misunderstanding going abroad had
persisted in spite of the fact that, . to the Council ' s knowledge, no
pornographic materials are being sold in the video center in Apache
and we will be certain none is sold. there in. the future. " She replied
to Mr. Dubay' s concern that., since Minneapolis is so close, some of the
types of operations permitted there might be relocated in St. Anthony,
by saying the Councl .will make certain "no such materials are made
available in St. Anthony" .
Mr. Dubay blamed the "recent increase in crime in St.. Anthony on the
operation of the Fun Center, which brought in people walking our streets
we didn' t have years ago" . He believed physical harm to persons resulted
from that rise in crime. The Mayor told him when the first concerns
regarding the operation of the Fun Center were voiced to her -personally,
the Police Department had been instructed to watch the center carefully
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and the owner had appeared several times before the Council to assure .
them of .his ..own careful surveillance of the Fun Center as well as his
clientele. ., .:The,.' "Mayor said she didn' t . believe the ,type of crimes which
have increased such . as vandalism could-- be identified as directly connected
to the Fun -Center. Mr.., Dubay then asked whether there had been any
rapes in the City lately and was told that 'there. :had been some instances
of "attempted rape" in the northern section of the City. She has
concluded from her own. conversations with a mother who had called her
about the Fun .Center that this was another case "where parents have
to assume some of the responsibility for- their own children; especially
observance of the City curfew" .
Councilman Marks told Mr. Dubay it is a fairly regular occurance for
persons appearing before the Council to be represented by counsel and
there have even been several occasions ,:where a court reporter took down
testimony for- permits . He said he .often rides along with the Police
on their rounds and has discussed the Fun Center with the officers
and found they believe the center to be "fairly well run" and that the
Police "often prefer having the teenagers congregating in a well super-
vised location such as the shopping center to other places they hang
around" . He said statistics don't show a rise in crime in categories
which could be related to the Fun Center..
Councilman Ranallo .told those present the Council "doesn' t intend to have
pornography permitted in St. Anthony at...all' . He believed better reporting
• methods .by the Police Department might have resulted in higher crime
figures this year. Mr. Fornell said certain types of crime have increased
with crimes against property up somewhat but other types such as auto
theft declining.
Mr. Jones responded to Mr. Dudley' s comments by reiterating that Mr. Berg
had explained why Mr. Ochs had not been invited to the hearing. He
told him all the information regarding the center 's operation had come
directly from the residents . who spoke in opposition to the store and he
personally had not even known the store was in Apache until the Comm- '
ission hearing was held. He also mentioned -Mr. Lohmar' s belief that the
Apache merchants wouldn' t tolerate a business which might be bad for
their business.
Mr. Ochs then explained that his Apache landlords had anticipated .no
problems with his store operating in the center .because they believed
the video equipment he offered would qualify the store under the
"electronics" classification in the Zoning Ordinance, but staff had later
informed him that only a store which is "purely electronic" meets that
qualification. He said he has. been a resident of the "northern area' ,
especially Roseville , for most of. his life and is well aware of the
"sensibilities" of the community. He, therefore, has no desire to
carry "raunchy material in his store. The center proprietor then "cord-
ially invited any intersted person to visit his store and to view anything
he has available" . He promised to "remove anything you find objectionable" .
Councilman Sundland said he had attended the hearing after receiving
several calls regarding the store and had come away with the same per-
ception many others had that this operation might be the same as that
which had indicated its interest in locating in the St. Anthony Shopping
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Center. Meetings with .Apache management and merchants since that date
have convinced him .of .their . concern about offending the sensibilities
of the. City residents and their sincerity in insisting they- wouldn't
put up with X-rated materials ,being sold in--the center. The Councilman
said he .was- certain the Council- would have undertaken a lawsuit if
Mr. Ochs were involved with X-rated materials.
Planning Commission member, Judy Makowske,, .:then :reported .that after the
November hearing, . she had met at the store with Mr. .Cavanaugh, Apache ' s
counsel, and Mr. Ochs and was `.pleased to find .the. store::did not have
"adult" written on it . as had been inferred during the- hearing. She
said Mr. Ochs had told her that, though the store had a catalog of
what might be offensive materials, he would dispense .with its use
. .if it would not be acceptable to the community.
Mr. Dubay then said there had been nine very good reasons the residents
did not want the store permitted at Apache and reiterated his concerns
.the store will now produce the same bad effect on the community as the
Fun Center.
At this point, about a dozen persons who- .had been unable to gain access
to the building joined. the discussion. . One of these, Jim Zellmer,
3414 Downers Drive, was informed of the testimony which had already been
developed by the Mayor who said she saw two questions regarding the
ordinance modification; first, whether .this type of business belongs
in :the City' s Zoning Ordinance and finally., whether pornographic materials
• are being shown in the Apache store for- which there has been no evidence
demonstrated. Steve Kuzma, 1818. Arthur Street N.E. , requested to speak
though he is not actually a resident, saying he. is a -long-time shopper
in St. Anthony. He said "even though the objections raised regarding
.the video store , might not be valid now, granting permission for this
type of store could lead to other -businesses which would be objectionable" .
.Mrs. Makowske suggested that to "set the minds of the residents at ease,
a ' smut ordinance ' should be developed to enable- the . .City to deal with
pornography" .
Marge Kocon, 3409 Belden Drive, asked for a definition 'of "pornography"
and the City Attorney read the state statutes .defining obscenity. Mrs.
Kocon then said she believed the Ordinance should be written "to
this community 's standards" . Mr. Soth told her that in the .Miller vs .
California the Supreme Court had permitted the contemporary community
standards could be applied but that no stateor municipal statute may
define obscenity in any other language than that adopted by the court.
with. elements of community standards included and the City cannot
adopt an- ordinance which is more restrictive than the state statute
or what had .been defined by the Supreme Court to be "obscene" . As an
.example he .said "the City cannot have an ordinance which says any type.
of nudity. .is obscene" however, the City can .impose a greater penalty
. . for a violation of the ordinance than provided for in the state statute,
with a fine up to $500 and a jail sentence up to. 90 days . Mr. Soth
reminded those present that the penalty must be imposed by a judge and,
often before a jury.
Mr. Dubay questioned why the state' s pollution standards can exceed the
federal standards and the Attorney told him such standards aren't subject
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to, the Constitut
-to, the. Cons,titut ional. principle. of Free.' Speech as is -pornography.
Councilman.. Ranallo.. als.o.. told Mr._ Dubay. that what' s happening at state,
and federal- levels in this. area. may set precedents for the City and pointed
out. that recently Judge Neil: Reilly had ruled the Minneapolis Police
Department cannot .even inves.tigate . an adult bookstore .without a warrant. .
He then suggested concerned .residents ..might also look .at the .instances
where X-rated printed materials are sold in .grocery stores in St. Anthony.
Mary Ann Kuharski , 2709 Pahl Avenue N.E. , said she was sympathetic with
the. Council's problems with the Constitutional quest-ions and agreed
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"anther store in Apache probably should be picketed for the offensive
materials it handles, " .,b.ut.:::she._.disagreed with Mr. Soth' s statements
regarding how restrictive a City ordinance ._co.uld .be, saying the Supreme
Court has decreed that "standards ofa contemporary community can be
imposed" and citing the many books out now .demonstrating how pornography
can be fought. She requested the Court' s ruling..be researched fully.
The Manager told her there will probably- be different views and -inter-
pretations on pornography to be found . in .any community as evidenced
by the fact that "probably some St. Anthony people do buy . those magazines" . -
He added "this is a very sensitive area- and it is. quite. a different matter
for a private citizen to . take. a . stand- on- this question than it is for
the City to do so" . Mr. Soth reiterated that no state or municipal
state may define obscenity in any other but the language for the Court' s
ruling and must meet this test,and a jury may differ with the ordinance,
even if it meets this test...
Mayor Haik then disagreed with the implication that the Council had
found anything to- object- to in .the. video center since it has found the
existing store does not carry X-rated materials. She -recommended all
should be very careful to differentiate between "X-rated" and "porn-
ographic" . Mr. Ochs repeated that he has no X-rated materials on his
shelves though he recently received three X-rated movies (soft porno).
which he had returned to the -supplier. - He . told Mr. Zellmer he had
no financial obligation to accept such materials because he has a franchise,
and although he does get all ,.new releases "sixty percent of his 'inventory .
is returned every day" .
Mrs.. Kuharske asked "what about our .rights not to be offended? . We may
not represent all other St. Anthony people' s views but they should be.
here to protect their own rights if they feel they are being threatened. "
She saw it as the City government'.s duty to protect the community
and said the children of the community are not. old enough to make their
own decisions regarding questionable materials.
Mayor Haik then told the Council she beleived the decision before them
is "whether or not a zoning classification should be created for this
store for which we have found no objections" . She said there are state
statutes against selling pornographic materials. to children under 18
which the City can impose. Mr. Zellmer said although he is happy to
hear Mr. Ochs does not intend to ,carry-offensive. materials in his store,
he. is convinced there is little the City can do to prevent him from doing
so, saying "he will be making money while the City becomes a pauper
trying to make him stop through .:the courts!' .
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Councilman Marks said . "there is nothing- intrinsically wrong with video
" tapes" . He then told the history of how 'this media had been developed
and the good uses to which ,.it has been applied. _ He conceded that porn-
ography has become ..a .large portion of the .video,. market, but said he
believed ,the type of..materials carried in a store depends on the sort
of people who run the! establishment - He concluded- by saying during several
visits to the store in :question, he. had .personal-1-y seen "not an iota
of materials which he considered to be offensive.. and- .he believes, from
a land use viewpoint, it will be reasonable -to permit this use in the
City ordinance. since it fits so':well "with other permitted categories .
He saw no reason to exclude the use- and believed its use should be
separated from the issue of pornography.
Mr. Kuzma said he believed the "Council has already made -up its mind on
the question and. their decision,- though it might be correct from -a civic
viewpoint might be morally wrong"..
Mayor Ha,ik agreed that the Council members seemed to have made up
their minds but didn't accept the premise that there was a moral issue
involved.
' Councilman - Ranallo agreed saying inboth his regular and part time,
employment he -is involved in the distribution- of video tapes',, none
of-- which are X-rated. He could find "nothing morally wrong with selling
educational materials to schools,. etc" . . He promised "if Mr. Ochs sells
X-rated materials , we 'll close him down
Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Councilman Marks to waive
further readings and adopt Ordinance 1980-010 .
ORDINANCE 1980=010
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO-LAND USE IN
A COMMERCIAL .DISTRICT, AMENDING THE
ZONING ORDINANCE OF'. THE- CITY OF -ST. ANTHONY,
ATTACHED AS APPENDIX I .TO THE 1973 CODE
OF ORDINANCES OF THE CIT.Y' OF ST. ANTHONY.
Motion carried unanimously-
The Council then agreed that tfie City Attorney should be .directed to
prepare an-, -ordinance dealing with .pornography. When Councilman Ranallo
suggested the ordinance should include a provision for saunas the City
Attorney suggested- a.- more effective sauna ordinance ,could be developed
separtately.
Motion by Councilman Ranallo .and seconded by'. Councilman Marks to direct
the. City Attorney to develop for- Council consideration an ordinance
dealing with pornography with another related to saunas .
Motion carried, unanimously.
Mr. Jones concluded his presentation- by telling the ,Council. the Commission
members wil_l. let them know soon whether or .not they desire to continue
their service on the Commission in 1981.
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Accepted as agenda: addendum .were .Resol.ution 80-093 under 7K; the November
21s.t MWCC request under ,10B. and Councilman Ranallo's. report on the City
Biannual Ball under 11D.
Motion by Councilman Sundland and .seconded by Councilman Letourneau to
adopt Ordinance 19.80-008 .
ORDINANCE 1980-008 .
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE USE OF
BEER AND LIQUORS - IN CITY PARKS, AMEND-
ING SUBDIVISION 1.4 OF SECTION 220 : 05
OF THE 1973 CODE OF ORDINANCES .
Voting on the motion:
Aye : Sundland, Letourneau, Haik and Ranallo.
Nay: Marks
Motion Carried.
Motion by Councilman Letourneau and seconded by Councilman Sundland
. to adopt Resolution 80-085 with the correction in wording suggested
by Mr. Fornell.
RESOLUTION 80-085 .
A'.:RESOLUTION, APPROVING.,THE, POLICY
FOR MUNICIPAL SERVICE FOR THE REMOVAL
OR CHIPPING OF SHADE TREES .
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by- Councilman Sundland and seconded .by Coun cilman Marks to
adopt Resolution 80-086 .
RESOLUTION 80-086
A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE AMENDMENTS
TO THE RULES AND . REGULATIONS OF THE
RICE CREEK WATERSHED DISTRICT.
Motion carried unanimously.
In his -memo of December 3rd, the City Manager had recommended a severance
payment fund of $40 ,000 be established for City employees and the deferred
payments made' to .three former employees .
Motion by Councilman Sundland and seconded by Councilman Ranallo to
' adopt Resolution 80-087 .
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• RESOLUTION 80=087
A. RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A FUND FOR
SEVERANCE -PAYMENTS.
Motion carried unanimously.
Richard Kristyniak, a City Public Works employee who previously-served
as a Fire Department employee, was present to discuss..the question of
whether the Council should approve the implementation of the..state statute
which would...permit Mr. Kristyniak to-be..- declared a City firefighter
for pension: purposes. Mr. Fornell had suggested. in his December 4th
memorandum .the .approval of the resolution.-. accomplishing this should
be subject to a .clause added, _to,.the agreement between the City and
Mr. Kristyni.ak whereby he will "pick 'up any City cost-:liabilities res- .
ulting .from passage of: the statute This was agreed to by the Public
Works employee .who .said he wanted the law to be passed and was "willing
to take his chances with the problems regarding. its retroactivity being
solved through further legislation" .
Motion by. Councilman Sundland and seconded by Councilman Ranallo to
adopt Resolution 80-0.88 subject to inclusion of Clause No. 5 in the
agreement with Mr. Kristyniak which_ .will . be ,developed by the City
Attorney as recommended by Mr. Fornell.
RESOLUTION 80-088
A RESOLUTION APPROVING MINNESOTA LAWS
1980, CH. 341 , SEC. . 7 AND DECLARING.
RICHARD KRISTYNIAK TO BE A FIREFIGHTER
FOR PENSION PURPOSES (Agreement Attached) .
Motion .carried unanimously.
Motion by :Councilman Sundland and seconded by Mayor Haik to adopt the
resolution -which authorizes the budget .transfers - necessitated by
changes in the Fire Department operations .since the preparation of the
1980 budget.
RESOLUTION 80-089
A: RESOLUTION MODIFYING THE 1980 BUDGET.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by .Councilman Ranallo and-.seconded by Councilman Letourneau
to adopt the -resolution which .authorizes .the budget transfers covering
additional equipment purchases .for the Fire Department.
RESOLUTION 80-090
aA RESOLUTION MODIFYING THE 1980 BUDGET.
Motion carried unanimously.
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Motion by Councilman Ranallo and seconded by Councilman Marks to adopt
Resolution 80-091.
RESOLTUION 80-091 .
A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE REAPPOINTMENT
OF JOAN CAMPBELL TO .THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL.
Motion carried unanimoulsy.
Motion by Councilman .Sundland and seconded by Councilman .Letourneau
to adopt the .resolution which authorizes ,.the County Auditor to apportion
the outstanding special assessment's for: the 'Blanske Addition.
RESOLUTION 80-092
A RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE REAPPORT-
IONMENT OF SPECIAL. ASSESSMENTS FOR LOCAL
IMPROVEMENTS .
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Councilman Ranallo .and .seconded by Mayor Haik to adopt
Resolution 80-093.
RESOLUTION 80-093
A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THE. ESTABLISHMENT_.
OF HENNEPIN COUNTY JAIL BOOKING FEES.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mayor Haik emphasized that she had understood the Kenzie Terrace Study
would encompass the total triangle of property bound by Kenzie Terrace,
Lowry Avenue N..E. and Highway 88 .
Motion -by Councilman Marks and seconded by Mayor Haik to appoint .Roman
Hentges as the senior group representative; John Duranc, representing
I.S.D. #k282 School Board and Mary" Cotroneo, as a shopping center merchant
representative, to complete the slate for .the Kenzie Terrace Task Force.
Motion carried unanimously. .
Councilman Marks said :Mr. Pulscher had indicated a willingness to aid
the task force in any way they felt his expertise was needed.
Informational data on the,..parking problem on Skycroft from Mr. Hamer and
Mr. '_Fornell had been included in .the agenda packet. The Manager said
Mr. Simonson had concurred with staff suggestions for solving those
problems .
Motion by Councilman Sundland .and seconded .by Councilman Letourneau to
approve the purchase .of a Chevette .with .a tilt steering wheel for the
Public Works Department at a cost . of $5 ,102 .03 to be paid from the 1981
budget as recommended by the City Manager.
Motion Carried unanimously.
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It was .agreed the December 23rd Council meeting .will be held as scheduled
unless nothing of pressing . importance is to be considered.
Correspondence between the City and school district .regarding the fuel
conservation plan for the Parkview -building -was noted and ordered filed.
_Motion by .Councilman .Ranallo and seconded by Councilman Letourneau to
-appoint Larry Hamer_to .serve as -the City' s representative on the Metro-
politan Waste- Control Commission -Advisory Board with Jim Fornell as his
.alternate.
.Motion carried unanimously.
The November Fir-e. Department report and the September and October reports
from the Police Department were ordered filed.
Councilman Ranallo -reported on preparations . for the 'S't. .Anthony Biannual
.Ball to be held January 31st in the Apache Plaza mall.
Motion by Councilman .Sundland and seconded by Councilman Marks to approve
payment of all verified claims listed in the December 9 , 1980, agenda.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Councilman Ranallo and .seconded by Councilman Sundland to approve
payment of $76 . 55 to Dolphin. Temporary Help Services; $1, 452 .00 to Arcon
Construction, Inc. ; $188 . 51 to' Short-Elliott-Hendrickson, Inc. and
$876. 64 to Planning, Design & Research Engineers, Inc.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Councilman Marks and seconded by -Councilman Ranallo to adjourn
the meeting at 9:20 P.M.
Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Helen Crowe, Secretary
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Mayor
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