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Home My WebLink AboutPL MINUTES 05181976 Meeting Sheet 100150 II I IIIA VIII VIII VIII VIII II II Box: 15 Folder. Document: PL MINUTES 05181976 CITY OF .ST. ANTHONY PLANNING BOARD MINUTES • May 18,1976 The meeting was called to order at 7:40 P.M. by Mr. Ken Hiebel , Chairman Pro Tem. • Present for roll call : Rymar-chick, Letourneau, Hieberl , Cowan, Marks, and Johnson. Absent: Bowerman Also present: Jim Fornell , Adm. Asst. Motion by Mr. Letourneau,. seeonded by Mr. Rymarchick to approve the minutes of the April 20, 1976 meeting. Motion carried unanimously. Motion by Mr—Marks, seconded by Mr. Cowan to table action on the Poppin Fresh/ Signcrafters request for a variance to permit an enlarged free- standing sign at 3701 - Stinson. Boulevard until a representative of either company is present to make the request. Motion carried unanimously. Mrs. Richard Erpelding appeared to request -that she be allowed to erect a temporary screened enclosure on the cement-slab -next to the building which houses her indoor foliage plant business at 2550. Kenzie Terrace. She said the enclosure would allow better care for the plants -and permit a walk-in service for customers. The screened enclosure would not be used during the winter and could be dismantled if the lessees vacate the property. The structure has been used for commercial enterprises for a number of years and is leased by Mrs. Erpelding- and her husband from the St. Anthony Shopping Center, Inc. and. a letter of permi"scion from-Mr. E. Saliterman for the use of the property-for this purpose under- the lease agreement was a part of the presentation. Mrs. Erpelding said,-her husband operates hi.s business, Special Interest Motor Cars, in the basement of the building. There- was a discussion- of the non-conforming usage which had been allowed for years on this property which is zoned R-1 . Vt was also established that the proposed structure would reduce the front yard'.s-etback to 161 feet which would not meet the zoning requirements for R-1 . -Mr. Fornell pointed out the fact that setbacks for commercial use are set at the discretion of -the Council under the existing ordinance and felt the property should be -rezoned to ''C" to make it consistent with the uses over the past ten ,year,s. He defended the staff's recommendation for preliminary acceptance based on the traditional commercial use of property in the past and the fact that the requested structure would not detract further from the rather unattractive appearance of the property at present. He mentioned the amount of the fees which would have to be paid if the request were treated as a variance from .the R71 front yard setback or a zoning change to "C" and asked that the staff be given some guidance in that regard. 0 Mr. Johnson expressed. his :concern with the "fruit stand" image of the proposed structure and the entire Board felt they had not been given enough specific information regarding construction, size and materials, signing and lighting of the structure to make a judgment on the request, and Mr. Marks fel"t -Mrs. Erpelding was not correctly informed . as to what was expected of her for her presentation. The Board members wondered if some effort should be made to solve the zoning question for this area. Page 2 Motion by :Mr. Cowan, seconded by Mr. Johnson to recommend denial of the Erpelding request as- presented because: oU lack of detailed drawings °and other specific • information regarding the project. Motion carried .unanimousl-y. Mr. Lloyd Bergman of'Bergman,. Knutson, Street and U1men, Attorneys at Law, 1330 • Dain Tower, representing Mrs. Ina Burman ,the =present owner-of Lots 1 , 2 and .3 of Block 8, .Mur.ray--Heights .-- Addi:tion,' appeared to request that the three lots be replatted into two lots to permit the purchase of .the new Lot 2' by the present tenant, W.W. Johnson Meat'Company.. Lot 1 would continue to be leased to the. Standard Oil Company with which:,the meat-market and Deluxe Bakery have shared parking and driveway facilities for the last 10 years. Mr. Hiebel wondered if the proposal:. might be perpetuating- the overuse of that property since the proposed ~Lot I -wi :V not.;meet the commercial zoning requirements of 15,000 sq. ft. .since .it w1l.1 now-only-:encompass-,. 11.,000 sq. ft. - and Lot 2 will now only have 14, 400 sq.:-ft..- There was.�al:so some concern that, where one property owner had been -able- to control: the parking facilities, -a conflict might arise from dual ownership. Mr, 'Fornell :said there was-- also a probability that such a conflict might force the 'serv:i;ce station 'to increase"-its use:.::of 27th Avenue N.E. ..for parking the cars they service. Mr. Bergman pointed out the 'fTne r.elat'ionsh;i:p between the three businesses in the past. He said he had a purchase agreement with the Johnson Company which was contingent upon a- conditional agreement regarding' their use of the parking area and the driveway onto Kenzie Terrace. He. said.:Standard' had indicated a willingness to accept a modification to their.- lease to make this allowance and felt W.W. Johnson .. • Meat Company- would. not be interested in -purchasing the property if a parking easement was added. However, Standard would- con:fiinue. to have a .dumping easement for their storage tanks. Motion by Mr. Marks., 'seconded 'by'.Mr.',Johnson to recommend approval of the replatting of Lots 1 , 2 -and -3, Block 8, Murray:-Heights- 'Addition -as presented .as long as the property line is modified to inc'Yude ',the 'entire curb cut onto Kenzie Terrace as part of' the new Lot 2-. \Motion carried.-unanimously. Z Mot-i•on by Mr. Marks, seconded 'by'Mr. Cowan to leave the matter of the Poppin Fresh sign change--tabled -since no one had yet appeared to' present the request .for a variance to the sign ordinance. `-,motion carried unanimously. Mr.. Johnson then reopened the d-iscussion of -:the Erpelding request saying he felt the Board should initiate a consideration- of' the way �the entire shopping center area is maintained and wondered -about `.the possibility of having .that portion of the City declared a redevelopment.. area. • Mr. Rymarchick was to make it :a' point of : information to the Council the the Board proposes- to `review the entirety of.-the St. Anthony -Shopping Center-.area and make recommendations for revitalizing this commercial area. /-Mr. -.Jack Lawrence of -S,igncrafters• Outdoor. Display Inc. arrived at 9: 10 P.M. and presented-.Poppin. Fresh request to replace the present -5 x 6 f t. free standing sign at 3.701 Stinson Boulevard with another free standing sign which -would be 9 feet 3 inches t Page 3 high and 8 feet- wide. ' He said. the sign would bear the national trademark for the company and had- already been: scaled down from the size used at the company's other restaurants throughout the country to conform with St. Anthony's sign ordinance. It was his opinion �that' strict .sign ordinances -such as -St. Anthony's only.-allowed for "sterile' type signage". • Mr. Johnson told-:him, that a.:sign 6 feet high would be consistent with other signs throughout- the community. The Board alsw expressed. its opposition to having the sign placed on a pole.. . Motion by Mr-. Rymarch4:ck, seconded :by Mr. Johnson to recommend approval of a new monumental sign for Poppin Fresh'at-3701 Stinson as long as it doesn't exceed the square .footage. of the,present, sign an& is -not 'hi-gher• than 6 feet above the existing grade. ` Motion carried unanimous-ly:. As were previous applicants, 'Mr... Lawrence was advised that thematter would be presented by Mr. Rymarchick. for Council consideration at their next meeting May 25, 1976. Motion by Mr. Marks, seconded by Mrs-Cowan to adjourn the meeting at 9.30 P.M. Motion carried unanimously. Helen Crowe, Secretary