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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPL MINUTES 12211976 Meeting sneer 11111 IIIA 11111 11111 VIII 11111 lill IIII 100158 Box: ss Folder: Document: 0L MINUTES 12211976 • CITY OF ST. ANTHONY PLANNING BOARD MINUTES December 21, 1976 The meeting was called to order at 7 :40 P.M. by Chairman Bowerman. Present at roll call: Bowerman, Hiebel, Johnson, Cowan and Marks. Absent: Letourneau, Rymarchick Also present: Fornell, Administrative Assistant Motion by Hiebel, seconded by Cowan to approve the November 16 , 1976 minutes. Marks requested that the typo in paragraph four be corrected from "mroe" to "more" . Motion by Hiebel, seconded by Cowan to approve the November 16 , 1976 minutes as amended. _.,-ZHoward Dahlgren, consulting planner, then made a pres:en`tation on sign regulations, the evolution of sign regulations , and trends in sign control. • Cowan and Hiebel asked about nonconforming signs and how they could be brought into conformance. Mr. Dahlgren cited the experience of several communities. Marks asked about the proper procedure in controlling signs. Mr. Dahlgren said that there are basically four stages: (1) research on the City, (2) goal definition, (3) plans to carry out objectives and (4) the legal-mechanistic tools to achieve the plans. Kraig Loftquist of Naegele Outdoor Advertising, Inc. , spoke briefly on the sign industry's perspective and indicated a willingness to reappear in the future to discuss the matter in greater depth. Fornell was requested to arrange for him to speak at the January meeting. Mr. Dahlgren then discussed the Metropolitan Land Planning Act and its impact on governmental bodies in the metro region. Several questions were asked by Board members . Wil Johnson felt that Mr. Dahlgren's expertise would be of value in the Kenzie Terrace redevelopment study and requested that staff contact Mr. Dahlgren about a meeting to discuss the services he could offer. Johnson also requested additional information from staff on \the impact of the Act on St. Anthony. • • ✓" bi1 Solberg of Twin City Federal Savings and Loan Company and Brian Morgan of Baker Associates , Inc. , presented their revised site plan for a T.C.F. branch office at 39th Avenue N.E. and Silver Lake Road. The proposal had previously received a conditional use permit, subject to final review. Several Board members expressed concern about various aspects of the proposal: Hiebel felt the traffic flow was awkward. Johnson was concerned about the location and expansionability of the drive-in teller, the free-standing sign and the possible encroachment of the drive-in teller porch in the required side yard,. (A condition of the original conditional use permit was that the final plan conform to all ordin- ances in effect at the ' time of construction. ) Both Cowan and Johnson raised points about the possibility the Savings and Loan industry may offer checking accounts and hence more drive-in teller. traffic would be generated. Mr. Hiebel and others-wondered if the drive-in teller would better be placed on another side. Mr. Morgan said they had done studies of the site and feel the pre- sent �site plan is best in separating drive-in traffic from pedes- trian traffic, preserving the green space around the building, and allowing reasonable egress. • Marks felt the drive-in tellers were adequate because of probable increased computerized payments transfer in the industry and decreas- ed reliance on automobiles . The memo from Fornell concerning the conformance of the site plan with the original use conditions and with the new zoning ordinance was discussed as well as his recommendations. Motion by Marks, seconded by Hiebel to recommend approval of the site plan for a T.C.F. office to be located at 39th and Silver Lake Road subject to the following: . 1. The building is to be relocated to the south, increas- ing the frontage on Silver Lake Road from 200 feet, to provide room for two remote tellers as well as one direct teller without the need for a side yard variance. 2. Parking spaces to be ten feet in width. Additional spaces will be provided off-street if necessary. 3. Lighting is not to exceed one foot candle in intensity at the property line. 4 . A detailed landscaping plan is to be submitted and is subject to Planning_ Board review and Council approval. • I • 5. A walkway is to be provided in the public right-of- way on 39th Avenue N.E.' .a sufficient distance behind the curb line to allow for snow storage. The sidewalk is to extend a reasonable distance south on the Silver Lake Road right-of-way as an aid to bus patrons. 6 . There shall be a buffer between the office property and the residential area to the east in conformance with Section 10, Subd. '12 of the zoning ordinance. 7 . Final building plans are to be reviewed by City Staff for compliance .with all applicable codes , ordinances , and laws. Motion carried unanimously. Members of the Board then restated their opposition to the size and free-standing nature of the approved sign and the following motion was made: Motion by Hiebel, seconded by Johnson to advise the Council that the Planning Board feels the proposed approved sign is far in ex- cess of present and past sign ordinance regulations and could cause legal problems with previously denied free-standing signs. • Motion carried unanimously. Cowan felt that the City had no right to put up the illegal free- standing signs at the City Hall. Fornell said he thought the signs are permissible. (Section 400 : 20 , subd. 3 allows such pedestrian directional signs. ) Members then discussed the expenditure of Community Development funds. Hiebel indicated a preference for code enforcement in the Kenzie Terrace area. Marks indicated an interest in a band shell but Fornell said it would probably be inelligible because it was sepctator oriented. NOTE: Rick Rymarchick phoned staff after the meeting and indicated a preference for: (1) a comprehensive planning study, evaluating past planning practices and providing for future direction (akin to the Metropolitan Land Planning Act requirements) , (2) a sewer inflow/ infiltration study, (3) check valve installation in sanitary sewers ,and (4) a low income home improvement loan program. All Planning Board members indicated a desire to be reappointed. Fornell was commended on the memo he wrote on the T.C.F. proposal; the Board wished it inserted in the minutes . Cowan is to represent the Planning Board at the next Council meeting. • ® The selection of a new chairman is to be, placed on the January Agenda. Motion by Cowan, seconded by Hiebel to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously; the meeting was adjourned at 10 :25 P.M. Jim Fornell Acting Secretary • •