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CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
July 15 , 1980
The meeting was called to order at 7 :30 P.M. by -Chairman Bjorklund.
Present for roll call : Peterson, Bowerman, Bjorklund, Sopcinski and
Enrooth.
Absent: Makowske and Jones.
Also present: Ron Berg, Administrative Assistant.
Motion by Mr. Bowerman and seconded by Mr. Sopcinski to approve -as
submitted the minutes for the Commission meeting June 17 , 1980 .
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Enrooth will represent the Commission at the next Council meet-
ing to be held July 22 , 1980 . Mr. Bowerman announced he will be
unable to attend the Commission' s August 19th meeting.
At 7 : 32 P.M. the public hearing on the Chandler Addition preliminary
platting was opened by Chairman Bjorklund.
• Mr.- Berg reported application, notification and publication require-
ments for such a hearing had been met with all property owners within
350 feet of the site in question notified. No one present reported
failure to receive or objected to the contents of the notice. The
requirement for a public hearing was detailed for Mr. Bowerman by
the Administrative Assistant who suggested since the plat had been
revised, approval should be subject to a final review by the City
Attorney as well as Ramsey County. Larry Hamer had, in his July
10th memorandum, addressed the questions previously raised concerning
the soil conditions and drainage for the property and Mr. Berg
reiterated the City .Attorney ' s recommendation that since this
project will be developed with zero lot lines for the seven town-
,,-- houses , the foundation permits may be granted prior to submission of
the final platting after the lot lines have been determined.
Mrs. Makowske arrived at the meeting at 7 :45 P.M. immediately follow-
ing the closing of the public hearing..
Motion by Mr. Sopcinski and seconded by Mr. Enrooth to recommend
Council approval of the preliminary platting for the Chandler
addition as per drawing No. 8079 as revised July 14 , 1980 , subject
to review by the City Attorney and the Ramsey County Public Works
Department, finding that the said platting has met all the require-
ments of the City ordinance as well as those voiced in previous
. discussions about the project.
Motion carried unanimously.
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The meeting was recessed from 7 :58 P.M: to 8 : 09 P.M. when Mr. Berg
told Commission members he hopes to have further revisions of the
proposed Sign Ordinance in their hands for consideration during the
next Commission meeting.
The Chairman .distributed his copy of a letter from Abe Rosenthal
suggesting all cables for the proposed City cable T.V. system should
be placed underground.
Mr. Berg believes the American Monarch and National Bank of
St. Anthony are substantially in conformance with their landscaping
plans but several Commission members expressed concern that the
bushes provided by the bank along Lowry Avenue may not actually
provide the opacity which was agreed to (4 feet in 3 years) and
whether the wood chip foundations are being kept weed free. Staff
will contact the bank to ascertain what final landscaping can be
anticipated for the auxiliary parking lot.
The public hearing on the Blanske variance petition for a mini
storage construction at 39th Avenue N.E. and Foss Road, which had been
continued because of questions raised regarding the notification
procedures, was reopened by Chairman Bjorklund at 8 :18 P.M. All
property owners of record within 200 feet of the Blanske property have
• been notified of the hearing continuance, Mr. Berg reported.. He
said he had received a letter from Russell A. Teske, who recently
moved ' to California, who complained of never receiving such notices
from the City, specifically the water billings. Mr. Berg, however,
had checked and found the property owner of record for 3821 Foss
Road was being sent all such notices at that address . Included in
the July 15th agenda were copies of the July 10th memorandum from
Mr. Berg and Mr. Hamer as well as Mr. Berg 's original assessment of
the proposal dated June 13th and Mr. Blanske ' s variance application.
The developer and his attorney, Ed Hance, reiterated their justifications
for allowing a mini storage facility on the property Mr. Blanske
owns at approximately 3829 Foss Road provided the City vacates the
southern portion of Sunset Lane as recommended by the Commission
June 17th. Mr. Blanske indicated, on the site plans, where he would
be able to stripe seven or eight parking stalls parallel to Sunset
Lane which he saw as more than adequate since only his own vehicles.
and perhaps that of a caretaker resident in the facility will be
allowed to park on the site. He specified the use of one unit for
an office for himself and the other which will be located approximately
where there is now a residence , used either for a _rental office
space -or a caretaker's residence to provide both supervision and
security for the area. He also outlined the use of construction
materials to discourage children from climbing on the roof of the
building.
• Doug Jones arrived at 8 : 35 P.M.
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The President and Treasurer of the Mirror Lake Manor homeowners
association, Betty Jo Points and Alvina Law who indicated they are
spokespersons for the 148 homeowners at Mirror Lake, said they had
been appointed by the association board the previous evening to
express that group's approval of the proposal as it had been presented
to them by Mr. Blanske. 'The board had especially been pleased with
the provision of landscaping which they saw as an improvement of. the.
existing condition of the property_. The association had also felt
that the mini storage facilities might fulfill the need of some
Mirror Lake residents for auxiliary storage space.
The hearing was closed at 8: 48 P.M.
Motion by Mr. Sopcinski and- seconded by Mrs. Makowske to recommend
Council approval of the variances necessary for the development of a
mini storage facility, as proposed by Bernard Blanske, with no heat-
ing and plumbing (except for office space) as per survey certificate
No. 5332 for Lot 20 , Block 12 , Mounds View Acres Second Addition
subject to:
(a) Council approval of the vacation of the southerly half of Sunset
Lane for the project,
(b) A developer's agreement from Mr. Blanske assuring construction
• to the City' s specifications of a road and sidewalk along the
portion of Sunset Lane which remains after. the vacation,
(c) Provision of marked parking for any or all office spaces (max-
imum of two offices) which meet the requirements of the City
ordinance, and
(d) Submission of landscaping plans detailing those indicated on his
proposal, which meet the approval of City staff.
The variances recommended by the Commission are:
(1) A variance of 7 feet for front yard setback (Sunset Lane) .
(2) A variance of 12 feet for a side ya:zd setback (Foss Road) .
(3) Parking space variance of 31 stalls , resulting in a provision
for 3 stalls. -
The Planning Commission bases this recommendation in consideration of
the following:
(a) The side yard variance is reasonable in that it conforms to the
average setback of adjacent properties.
(b) -The City requirements in regard to parking spaces would_ be
• considered a hardship as the standards required do not pertain
to the mini storage portion of this project.
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^(_c) The front yard variance is reasonable because of the uniqueness
of the site where the front yard has limited visibility from
other structures and there is no demonstrated need for a larger
roadway.
(d) The side yard variance is also required because the poor soil
conditions to the east require the project to be sited further
west. To prepare the land to build on that soil is considered
to be hardship for the developer rather than a mere inconvenience.
Motion carried unanimously.
At 9 : 15 P.M. Chairman Bjorklund opened the public hearing on the
requests for variances from Happy Potato Chip Co. , 3900 Chandler
Drive, which will permit a warehouse addition to the existing build-
ing and a parking lot addition to provide an additional 46 spaces .
He read the notice which hacl gone out to all property owners of
_Precord within 200 feet of the site. Although Mary Bauer of 4000
Foss Road (Mirror Lake Manor) reported she had received the notice
directed to her,* she had heard of a number of persons in her building
and in 4002 who had reported failure to receive the notice. Mr. Berg
was certain a legal mailing had been made to all property owners of
record and the two association representatives concurred saying the
number of phone calls they had received about the project had con-
vinced them the mailing had been very thorough.
K. Robert Dunphy, President and General Manager of Happy' s , reiterated
his application statements for a 5 foot rear yard setback variance
to permit a 60 X 85 foot warehouse addition to be built to the rear
• and attached to the existing Happy' s manufacturing plant. No
additional dock area will be necessary with the addition nor will the
number of employees be expanded beyond the present 46 . He assured
Commission members the use of the addition for manufacturing purposes
will not be feasible and that its purpose is only for warehousing.
Mr. Dunphy said the flow of production within the plant necessitates
the siting of the warehouse where requested. The new building will
not exceed any of the other buildings in height.
Because Happy' s was developed before any residentials across Foss
Road, there was no concern reflected in the minutes of the meeting
approving the plant regarding parking and the plant president con-
cluded the parking was accepted with the total package plan. He
said if the continuity of the parking area to the lot line is allowed
with the addition, the rough hewn log fence may also be continued and
costly maintenance of grass between the fence and the roadway avoided.
The extension of the lot, approximately 180 feet by 69 feet, will
provide 46 additional parking spaces for total of 79 to accomodate
46 employees and 13 company vehicles . Mr. Dunphy, however, stated
these figures are misleading because when the .drivers ' cars are in the
lot, the trucks are out on a run. If they have to go back five
feet with the parking lot, the steep rise ' in the terrain at that
spot will necessitate building a retaining wall as well as extensive
excavation which in turn will affect the natural contour flow and
drainage flow.
There were no objections raised to the warehouse addition but the parking
lot plans drew complaints from the Mirror Lake representatives .about tak-
Ing down existing trees on the property; no provision for landscaping in
the proposal for the area directly across from Foss Road and possible
increase in traffic noise and odors for the condominium owners. The 5
residents present questioned why Happy's- couldn't site the parking lot on
the other side of the existing building between Happy' s and the Marshall
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building- where trucks are often parked on the grass now. They were not I!
convinced the slope of the terrain of the area was steep enough to pre
vent a parking lot being developed there.
• Mrs. Points doubted whether the parking -stalls provided would be
able to accomodate the trucks. She said the existing trees provide
a noise buffer of the Happy operation for the Mirror Lake residents
and gave the homeowners facing Foss Road "something to look at
besides asphalt" . She questioned why adequate landscaping could not
be required for this project the same as the City had required for
American Monarch and the bank as discussed earlier in the meeting.
As spokespersons for Mirror- Lake, she and Alvina Law had received more
than 50 calls opposing the extension of blacktop across from the
condominiums. Mr. Dunphy' s response to these objections included
his belief that "property owners should be able to do what they want
with their own property within the existing ordinance" and he didn't
see where "five feet could make that much difference" . He cited
problems with maintaining shrubs and grass near the roadway because
of salt damage and pointed out that the potato chip plant had been
in existance long before the condominiums were permitted through a
special use permit in a Light Industrial district across the street,
telling the objectors "you had to have a variance, too" . He disputed
John Gable ' s hearsay report of Happy' s trucks running all night in
the parking lot, saying none of Happy's trucks are diesels . He
thought they might be able to save the existing box elder tree on
the site but said the cottonwood trees have almost outlived their
life expectancy and "won=t be there very much longer no matter what
we do" . If Happy' s can't use the 55,000 square foot area for parking,
it may become necessary, economically, to sell it to someone else
for some other industrial use.
When a compromise was suggested by Mr. Jones whereby the fence would
be set back enough to allow a green area between the parking lot and
the road, the Chairman ruled the Commission should not be planning
the property for the -applicant. Mr. Bjorklund wondered if the
question of whether the - number of parking spaces provided meets
City requirements could be settled without another hearing which
Mr. Dunphy said would be unacceptable because it would delay con-
struction. Mr. Berg said consideration of the parking stalls was
included as .an item of discussion in the hearing notice but also
saw an interpretation by staff possible that the City ordinance
will be satisfied as long as no addition to the number of employees
f-- or trucks are included in the proposal.
Mr. Gable who was present to speak for his mother, a Mirror Lake
resident, said he was somewhat embarassed for repeating hearsay which
Mr. Dunphy had refuted and he believed the parking lot was probably
a better use of the land than some other light industrial which
might be developed there. - However, he felt the parking lot could
be built in such a manner as to conform to the City ordinance.
The hearing was closed at 10 :51 P.M.
Motion by Mr. Jones and seconded by Mr. Enrooth to recommend Council
• approval of a five foot rear yard setback variance to the City
ordinance which will permit the Happy Potato Chip Company to con-
struct, as proposed, the 5100 square foot warehouse (60 X 85). to the
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rear and attached to the existing building on Happy's Industrial
Lot 3, Block 1, Mounds View Acres Second Addition finding that;
(a) the proposal will allow a more orderly flow of products within
the proposed and existing operation, (b) the large railroad right-
of-way (50 feet) will provide an adequate buffer of the building to
the rear, and (c) it appears the entire property will be developed
to meet all pertinent City ordinances.
On the other hand, the Commission recommends Council denial of
Happy' s request for a five foot side yard variance for Happy's
Industrial #2 , Lot 1, Block 2 , along Foss Road, finding that the
request presentation did not demonstrate a sufficient hardship for
Happy' s if the variance were not granted, and if granted, would
probably deny sufficient allowance for landscaping on the Mirror
Lake Manor side of the project.
Motion carried unanimously.
The Commission next considered Mr. Berg 's July 9th suggestion that
they might want to consider whether the City ordinance should be
amended to specifically permit use in a Light Industrial district,
a caretaker' s residence at a mini storage facility. The concept
was explored with Mr. Blanske who indicated that if such a residence
were permitted it would have to be constructed to residential standards.
• All agreed that such an amendment would have to be phrased so as to
only be applicable to the mini storage properties. Mr. Jones ex-
pressed his belief that "a property owner has the right to protect
and provide security for his property and this would be an economical
way for the City to assist the property owner in establishing this
security for the entire area" . Mr. Bowerman agreed the City ordin-
ance should not deny the property owner the right to provide security
for his tenants but wondered about whether other light industrial
plants might make similar requests .
Motion by Mr. Sopcinski and seconded by Mr. Bowerman to recommend
to the Council that they consider amending that portion of the City
Zoning Ordinance defining permitted uses for a Light Industrial
.--district to specifically allow as a permiZtted use the construction of
mini storage facilities and then give consideration to including
a caretaker' s residence in mini storage facilities .
Motion carried unanimously.
The pertinent documents pertaining to the Blanske vacation request
for the sourtherly portion of Sunset Lane , which the Commission had
recommended the Council approve at their June 17th meeting, had
been included in the agenda packet and the Commission concurred with
the Administrative Assistant' s recommendation in the following:
Motion by Mr. Jones and seconded by Mr. Sopcinski to direct the
minutes of the Planning Commission' s considerations and actions
taken towards the vacation of Sunset Lane be included in the agenda
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packet'
for the Council' s July 22nd meeting where they will review
and make a decision on that vacation.
Motion carried unanimously.
The Chairman then pointed out what he considers to be the most
important aspects of the proposed Metropolitan Council guidelines
for review of proposed amendments to the local comprehensive plans .
He saw the City' s plan as well written since it sets down the
provision of alternatives for redeveloping - the St. Anthony Shopping
Center area which may prevent the City' s rezoning efforts being
challenged by other municipalities and at the same time allow the
City to react to any large rezoning in another municipality which
might adversely affect the community.
Motion by Councilman Jones and seconded by Councilman Bowerman to
adjourn the meeting at 11: 50 P.M.
Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
• Helen Crowe
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Motion by Mr. Sopcinski and seconded by Mr . Peterson to approve as
amended the minutes for the May 20 , 1980 Planning Commission meeting. +`
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Bowerman will represent the Commission at the Council meeting to
be held June 24th.
At 7 : 40 P.M. the Chairman opened the public hearing on the Blanske
vacation petition by reading the notice which had been published
twice, as required. Mr. Berg reported no mailings were necessary
since Mr . Blanske owns 100 percent of the abutting property and he
presented the survey of Sunset Lane on which had been indicated the
portion which Mr . ' Blanske is proposing be vacated and attached to his
existing property, Lot 20 , Block 12 . The Administrative Assistant
suggested any motion recommending approval should include the find-
ing that the vacation "will be in the best interest of the City" . a
He then reiterated the basis staff had found for recommending approval
of the proposal which had been detailed in his memorandum of June 13 .
Chairman Bjorklund asked Mr. Berg to read aloud the conclusions of
the Commission December 13 , 1979 , which withheld approval of the
vacation at that time. Mr. Bjorklund also pointed out the inconsis-
tencies , as he saw them, in the opinion of the City Attorney, which
• Mr. Berg had reported in his memo, regarding the City ' s chances of i
winning a favorable decision if an attempt to rezone the property
to residential were challenged in court and Mr. Soth' s general
assessment of downzoning rendered in his July 6 , 1978 , memorandum.
The Chairman also pointed to the Comprehensive Plan' s concluding
there is "a conflict of uses" in this area. Mr . Sopcinski responded
that though the Comprehensive Plan acknowledged the conflict of
uses it did not specifically recommend rezoning this particular
property to conform to the existing residential development and said
all communities live with a similar conflict of usage mix side by u
side. Mr . Berg answered his queries regarding whether specific
lines between uses had been drawn for the City by saving no such I
specific definitions have been accepted to date .
Ed Hance, fir. Blanske ' s attorney , told the Commission that , since
the City is not using the southerly portion of Sunset Lane, 4which is i
in reality only a hill with a slope of 600, and there can be no value
to the City to retain it in its present form, it might be better to
put it on the tax rolls by having Mr . Blanske develop it. He also
suggested that the recommendation of approval should include the
direction that the vacated portion should be attached to Mr . Blanske ' s f
property.
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Mr. Blanske then said he intended to build a new concrete or blacktop
road on Sunset Lane , according to the specifications of the City and
• was willing to sign a developer ' s agreement to that effect contingent
on approval of the vacation. Since he owns all the property which
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will be benefited by .the road, he saw it as cheaper for him to build '
it himself than to have the City build it and assess him for his
benefit. He discussed snow removal and storage plans. "No matter
what happens, that hill will have to come down" he told the Commission
and he saw it as an advantage for the City to have him remove it.
Mr. Blanske was unable to give the Chairman an estimate -of the value
of the parcel which will be vacated saying "price of land changes
momentarily like the stock market" . It .was agreed the economic
value was not germane to the vacation as it might- be to the granting
of a variance. None of the half a dozen residents present expressed
opposition to the proposal and the hearing was closed at 8 : 23 P.M.
for consideration by the Commission.
Mr. Bjorklund said he agreed that whenever a street has no value to
the City it either has to serve the City or be vacated. Mr. Enrooth
saw a potential tax revenue increase for the City through the
vacation. Mr. Jones questioned whether the DNR might prohibit the i
dumping of snow in the holding pond and whether a 30 foot street
would be ample enough for trucks of utility companies or the county
to turn around. Mr . Berg said the Director of Public [corks had
seen no reason for any trucks , other than the City ' s , to go into the
pond area periodically. Mr. Sopcinski disagreed with other Com-
mission members that no stipulation should be made to include the
offer of the builder to rebuild the street as a condition of the
• vacation since he saw this as a "unique case" .
Motion by Mr. Jones and seconded by Mr. Peterson to recommend Council
approval of the June 17 , 1980 request of Bernard Blanske that the
southerly half of Sunset Lane, lying between the northerly extension
of the east and west lines of Lot 20 , Block 12 , Mounds View Acres
Second Addition be vacated and attached to said lot 20, Block 12 ,
finding that (1) the City has no need either for a roadway nor a II
Utility easement on that parcel since all utility lines lay within f
a workable area of* the new Sunset Lane; (2) the vacation may increase
the taxable property in St. Anthony and (3) the potential for public
risk will be diminished when the need to maintain the hill adjacent
to Lot 20 is eliminated.
Voting on the motion:
Aye: Peterson, .Jones , Sopcinski , Bowerman and Enrooth.
Abstention: Bjorklund.
Motion carried.
The meeting was recessed at 8 : 50 P.M. and resumed at 9 : 00 P .M. for
the public hearing on the variances necessary for the development
of the newly created parcel for mini-storage buildings . The notice
iof the hearing was read and Mr . Berg reported it had been sent to all
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