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Folder: PL MINUTES AND AGENDAS 1980
Document: PL MINUTES 09161980
• CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
September 16 , 1980
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bjorklund at 7 :30 P.M.
Present for roll call: Bowerman, Bjorklund, .Sopcinski and Enrooth.
Absent: Jones , Makowske and Peterson.
Also present: Ron Berg, Administrative Assistant.
Motion by Mr. Bowerman and seconded by Mr-. Sopcinski to approve as
submitted the minutes for the Planning Commission meeting field
August 19 , 1980.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr.. Sopcinski .will represent the Commission at the next Council
meeting to be held September 23 , 1980.
Mr. Jones arrived at 7 : 33 P.M. and .Mrs. Makowske at 7 :34 P.M.
Accepted as addendum to the agenda was the request for a new
• building review for Central, Engineering, under 8a and a progress
report . on the sign ordinance under 8b.
The Chairman opened the public hearing on the Solie variance petition
at 7 : 35 P.M. by reading the notice of the hearing which had gone out
to the affected property owners listed in the agenda. Mr. Berg
confirmed that the application fee had been paid. There was no one
present who reported failure to receive the notice nor objected to
its contents.
Mr. Berg reiterated some of the points made in his September 12th
recommendation for allowing the variances necessary for permitting a
garage to be built on. the front of the existing residence at 2817
Silver Lane which will leave the front yard with only a 20 foot
front yard setback where 30 is required.
Ken Solie, 3200 Wendhurst Avenue N.E. , presented the site plans for
the proposal. which includes a 50 X 14 foot addition to the rear for
which no variances are required. He said his adjoining neighbors have
indicated they do not oppose the project as proposed. . The applicant
said the garage would be difficult to place next to the house because
footings from a cabin structure are still buried in that location.
He told Mr. Bowerman the entrance to the garage will be on the east
side of the addition leaving a finished side towards Silver Lane.
Mr. Berg noted that some structures along Silver Lane are closer to
the roadway than the proposed addition. Mr. Solie detailed the
landscaping he proposes which will provide greater screening of the
additions from his neighbors. He said the proposal, as presented ,
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will provide him with. a greater living area at the same time it will
• leave -.his view of the lake unobstructed. .The. Chairman '.read letters
of approval of the project from neighbors, Johanna .Lucious ,. 2821
Silver Lane, and Andrew .Szurek, 2809 Silver Lane. Mr. Jones reported
he had .talked with another neighbor to the west,: Floyd Rissell,
2805 Silver Lane, who had no 'objections to the garage addition as
proposed.
No one else was present to speak for or: against the proposal. and
the public hearing was closed at 7 :44 P.M. for Commission action.
Mr. Jones said he believed the turnaround driveway- planned by Mr.
Solie "is. almost mandatory on- that winding street .where there is so
much speeding traffic" . He pointed out that,. even with the garage,
Mr. Solie- will have 39, feet of front yard to the street.
Mrs. Makowske wondered whether the older garage structure to the
west, which is within 10 feet of the neighbor 's front lot line, might
not be removed later leaving this proposed structure out of line with
the rest of the street. Mr. Sopcinski told her there are three or
four more structures to: the west . which are not within the required
setbacks and there does not seem to be uniformity of front yards
along that street.
Motion by Mr. Sopcinski and seconded by Mr. Bowerman to recommend
Council .approval of the petition for variances from Kenneth Solie
• for the property at 2817 Silver Lane to permit the siting of the
proposed garage addition to within 20 feet of the front yard lot
lines as shown- on the site plans (which were initialed by Mr. Bjorklund)
finding that; (1) the existing City ordinances, which were adopted
after 1955 when the structure on the property was built, do not
permit upgrading that structure to standards now enjoyed by the
surrounding structures and (.2) the topography of the property being
lakeshore, the addition of the garage to the front of the structure
would reduce the costs of enlarging the house and at the same time
tend to improve the aesthetics of the surrounding area.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Berg then told the Commission, Central Engineering Co. was seeking
a .building permit for an additional building to their. existing- fac-
ilities at 2930_ Anthony Lane which will require no variances . No
plans for the addition had been reported to the City, when a temporary "
permit was sought for an office..trailer to be maintained on the site
until the new addition is built. This permit was: to expire in
September and an extension applied for if the new addition was not
started by that date.
Al Goetsch of the engineering firm and Foster W. Dunwiddie of Miller-
Dunwiddie, Architects , were present to discuss the site plans for the
proposal with the Commission members . Mr. Goetsch said he anticipated
the bids for the project to be taken in October. City staff had
reviewed the plans and found conformance with all. City ordinances
regarding setbacks but Mr. Berg had some questions regarding the
adequacy of the parking proposed. Mr. Goetsch told him there are
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presently 60 parking spaces provided for the 60 employees -of Central ,
10 of whom are located off the site and the firm does not anticipate
much increase in the number -of 'employees for the future. The addi-
tion. wi-ll. provide 39 .parking . stalls with 8 more possible, according
to Mr, . Dunwiddie. . A landscaping architect will draw up the land-
scaping plans and . the signage, which- is sure to be .in keeping with
the buildings., will be developed soon by. the firm, the architect
promised. . The Chairman- suggested. Central might consider as a model
the several new signs in the office park.
Action on the Commission ' s motion of recommendation- regarding the.
Central request , was . deferred until after the scheduled public hearing .
was held.
The public hearing on the proposed amendment to the• Blanske Addition
plat for- the property bound by Silver Lake Road, Silver Lane and Pen-
rod Lane was opened at 8:05 P.M. by the Chairman who read the notice
of the -hearing which had gone out to all the affected property
owners in the area, as listed in the agenda..
Bernard' Blanske, 3829 Foss Road, owner of the property, was present
to explain that, to sell the existing house. on the property in
question, it will be necessary for the subdivision- of . Lot 1 of the
plat into.-Parcels A and B. As he had explained in his September
12th memorandum, Mr. Berg reiterated the hearing was required by
• ordinance for an amendment of an existing plat as is required for
consideration .of a new plat. Therefore, since the staff considered
the action as procedur.eal, it recommends approval. He reported the
subdivision had been reviewed by the City Attorney and told Mrs.
Makowske adequate side yard setbacks will be maintained. No other
persons were present to speak for or against the proposal and the
public hearing was closed at 8 :12 P.M.
Motion by Mr. Bowerman and seconded by Mr. Jones, .to recommend Council
approval for the subdivision of the existing plat for. the Blanske
property presently described as Lots 1, 2 and 3 , Block 1, Blanske
Addition which will divide existing Lot 1 of the plat. into Parcel
"A" described as Lot 1, Block 1, Blanske Addition, except the East
137. 80 feet of that part of said Lot 1, lying North of the North
line of Lot 2 , and its extension West and Parcel "B" described as
the East. 137.80 feet of that part of Lot 1, lying North of the North
line of Lot 2 and its extension West, Block 1, Blanske Addition,
finding that this action continues previous City discussions regarding
developing buildable sites for the properties to the south.
Motion carried unanimously.
At 8 :20 P.M. Chairman Bjorklund opened .the public hearing to con-
sider an ordinance amendment prepared by the .City Attorney at the
direction of the Council to better define and permit the use of a
caretakers residence in a mini-warehouse facility such as was approved
• for the property on Foss Road owned by Bernard Blanske.
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Mr. Bowerman said he approved..of . the., amendment itself . but objected
to the exclusion - of children over 18 years of age living in the
caretakers. residence,. since he knows . of many children older than
that age .who . live with their parents while attending college, etc.
and he felt the phraseology discriminated against them.
Mr,. Jones and Mrs . Makowske were..opposed: to. the..-allowance of-
children. under 18 in the caretakers residence because they do not
believe children should be- permitted to' live- in a. Light Industrial
district. Mrs. Makowske was concerned with the-.City permitting
children to live in an area where trucks are driving in and out
putting children, especially toddlers, in jeopardy.
Mr. Blan.ske was still in attendance. and said he too objected to
excluding older children .from the caretakers quarters,. - Although it
is his intention to have .only . retired or disabled persons to provide
the security he feels is necessary. for the mini.-warehouse facility,
Mr. Blanske said he might, if .no one is found by next summer, use
the quarters for himself and- he has .a 13 and a 23. year old and
wouldn'.t want the eldest excluded from living there.
There. was no one else present to .speak for or against the amendment
and the public hearing was closed at 8 :37 P.M.
Motion by Mr._- Bowerman and seconded. by Mr. Enrooth. to..report to the
Council that -the Planning -Commi-ssion had...held the.. required public
• hearing on the amendment . of Section 1, Subdivision 3..of 'Section 10
of the. zoning Ordinance to add.-Subsection 7 which-permits a dwell-
ing unit .for use .as. a-.residence for a , caretaker for. a. mini-warehouse
facility and- for which there was no opposition to the amendment per
se but a change in the wording is recommended by the Planning Com-
mission whereby the words "dependent children." are substituted for
the words "children under the age of 18 years" in the amendment.
Before the vote was taken, Mrs: Makowske said .she.; would not be able
to vote for the..change or for .the amendment .because she would "feel
remiss with an ordinance which might jeopardize the .safety of children" .
Mr. Jones agreed saying he was concerned because the amendment
applied not only to the Blanske property but to. any other similar
facility which might be developed in the .City at. a. later date. He
did not believe children should be raised in a commercial area and
disagreed with Mr. Enrooth' s statement "If you -decide to exclude
children, you're discriminating" by telling him such exclusions are
the practice allover the metropolitan area. He said he. knew children
could be excluded from duplexes where the owner is a resident and
cited other: instances where exclusions are .permitted. He agreed
with Mr. Enrooth, however., that the legal clarification of the point
should besought by staff.
Mr. Sopcinski believed .excluding children might also exclude a semi-
disabled parent with children from seeking this type of part time
• employment and .suggested.. the fact that the Blanske unit will have only
one bedroom might limit. the number of residents who could live there.
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Mrs. Makowske reminded- him the amendment does not specifically define
the number of bedrooms .allowed in such facilities and thought the
size of the units should probably be stipulated. She then offered
an .amendment to. Mr. Bowerman' s motion which would put a period after
the words "caretaker 's spouse" eliminating the reference to children.
Her motion for the. amendment was seconded by Mr. Jones.
Mr. -Bowerman said he could. not vote. for 'this amendment because,
although he shares the concern for the health and .welfare of children,
he does not believe such concern can be. legislated through an ordin-
ance, or .an,.attempt should be made .to legislate the living conditions
which exist on a piece of property. He did not want the potential
for a job. of a caretaker to prohibit anyone with children living
at home.
Voting on the amendment:
Aye: Makowske, Jones and Bjorklund.
Nay: Sopcinski, Bowerman and Enrooth.
Amendment not carried.
Voting on the motion:
Aye: Bowerman, Enrooth, Sopcinski and Bjorklund.
• Nay: Makowske and Jones.
Motion carried.
Because of the strength of the opposition to the motion, Mr.. Bowerman
suggested the following directions be given.
Motion by Mr: Bowerman and .seconded byMr.- Bjorklund to request the
portion of the minutes pertaining to the opposition to the children
being. permitted to live in a mini-warehouse facility be read aloud
to Council when the Commission representative is making hisreport
on this subject.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Peterson arrived at 8 :50 P.M. just prior to the explanation by
Mr. Berg for the delay in the sign ordinance being presented for
Commission consideration.
The meeting wasrecessed from 8 :50 P.M.- to 9 :00 P.M. when the
Commission considered the request for a concept review of a barber
shop proposed for the Hedlund property at 3909 Silver Lake Road.
Craig S. Morris, Route #2 , Stacy, Minnesota, said he would like to
• remodel the existing residence on the southernmost lot of the property
governed by the Hedlund PUD for a barber-beauty shop and showed the
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Commission members a site drawing .of the proposal including 9
• parking stalls . He already has.. an established business in the
St. Anthony area with. 300 customers and most .of his..employees coming
from the community. Though he will lease the property from .Mr.
Hedlund, he has an option to. .buy. and "would certainly not leave his
present location if. I wasn't .certain of staying" . The Health Depart-
ment had. already inspected the buiiding .and .said. there is sufficient-
water and. sewer service to .support . a beauty. salon but had told him '
of other improvements. he must make including sheetrocking the walls,
installation..of, an energy .efficient: water heater. as well as sterili-
zation and sanitation of. the building. Mr. Morris .intends to change
the exteriorfacade of the building to either stucco. or rough cedar
and will comply with any requirements for landscaping, desiring "to
make .the property more attractive for both his customers and the
community" . He plans to remove the existing garage on the property
which is 'hn eyesore" which should leave more room for parking.
Mr. Berg told the Commission there were several points regarding
the P.U.D. which must .be clarified for this proposal. He mentioned
he had been unable to get - a firm response from Mr. Ames as to whether
he plans to proceed with his townhouse project to the north of the
existing residence which leaves open the possibility that the
property might revert to a commercial usage. The question of whether
the requirement for the Letter of Credit applies in part or wholly
to the development of this site had received differing 'intrepreta-
tions from staff and it is not clear .whether the parking requirements
for the commercial component of the P.U.D. apply .equally to the lot
• in question. The Commission- members estimated at. least 12 parking
spaces should be required to serve both the potential -customers and
the employees of the shop.
Kenneth Lee was present and said he proposes to .build a house
directly east of the Hedlund site and .he. and Mr. Morris have reached
an agreement concerning the screening between the. properties .
Mr. Morris indicated he was also willing .to comply with other City
requirements regarding the parking, landscaping and signage for the
building as well as' lighting of the property at .night.. He showed a
rough drawing of the sign he would .like to erect. The .question of
whether this sign might constitute a .major portion..of the signage
permitted the entire. commercial component of the P.U.D. was another
point requiring clarification.
The Chairman assured Mr. Morris that he "wants. him .to stay in the City"
and suggested when he returns with a. formal application, he should
include the stipulation that the garage will be removed as well as
the addressing of the fighting he proposes as well as the parking he
will provide, with 12 stalls suggested. For his. presentation. he
advised him to have the site. plans for the proposal indicating the
landscaping specifics as well as those for signage. He told him
the signage at the Goodyear. Tire company across Silver Lake Road is
an example of the type of signage which has been acceptable to the
City in the past.
• Mr. Morris thanked the Commission for -.the helpful suggestions they
had given him and said he intends to improve the property so it will
be a credit to the community.
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The Commission- next returned to.. the recommendation: regarding the
Central Engineering proposal.
Motion- .by Mr... Jones and seconded- by Mr.. Sopcinski to .recommend the
Council grant a building permit for. .the .proposed. addition to the
Central .Engineering Co. facilities, 2930. Anthony. Lane,. as presented
in the site- plans by the .engineering firm' s representatives, provided
the proposal meets all applicable. codes and ordinances.; and at the
same time to recommend the Council grant- an-, extension of 90 days
for the temporary permit for the. mobile. trailer office.
Motion carried. unanimously-..
Mrs.. Makowske.-had not been present for the approval- .of the August
19th minutes. and .she requested the motion 'of approval .be amended to
correct wording which she did not..believe. accurately,. reflects her
actions during . the- August meeting. She requested that the word
"suggestion" be substituted for "urging" on- Page 5.,. para. 4 , line. 4
which substitution was accepted by the Commission.
Motion by Mrs - Makowske and seconded :by .Mr. Bjorklund to amend the
previous motion of approval to approve,.. as corrected, the minutes
for the Commission meeting held August 19 , 1980 .
Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Berg said the City would probably. be willing to .pay $50 towards
a Commission member' s attendance at- the regional- confer.ence on fin-
ancing city projects in November and would consider future requests
of this nature on. .a "case by . case" basis.. The Chairman said he
believes the information derived. from this conference relating to
financing of any possible redevelopment projects would prove in-
valuable to the City and definitely thought someone should go.
Motion. by Mr. Enrooth and seconded .by Mr. Peterson to adjourn the
meeting at 10 :00 P.M.
Motion carried. unanimously.
Respectfully submitted ,
Helen Crowe
Secretary
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