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Document: PL MINUTES 06161981
CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
June 16 , 1981
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bjorklund at 7 : 30 P.M.
Present for roll call: Peterson, Enrooth, Bjorklund, Bowerman and
Jones.
Absent: Sopcinski and Makowske.
Also present: Ron Berg, Administrative Assistant.
The following corrections and amendments were made .to the Commission
May 19th minutes :
Page 3 , para. 4 : Add "No one was present and therefore, no one
reported failure t6. receive the notice nor
objected .to its contents" to the end of the
last line.
Page 4 , para. 4 :: Include as- Para. . 4 , "The concerns regarding traffic
safety as well as whether a precedent- for this
proposal had been set with the Silver Lake Ter-
race variances were also explored" .
• para. 10 : Correct the spelling of "prove" in the third line.
Page 5, para. 3 : Add "members" following "Commission" in the first
line.
Motion by Mr. Peterson and seconded by Mr. Bowerman to approve as
amended the minutes for the. P.lanning Commission meeting held May
19 , 1981.
Motion carried . unanimously.
Mr. Peterson agreed to represent the -Commission at the next Council
meeting which is scheduled for June 23rd.
Mrs. Makowske arrived at 7 : 37 P.M.
At 7 : 38 P.M. , the public hearing on the Danelski .variance request,
which had been tabled at the .May 19th meeting, was .continued with the
Chairman reading the notice which had been sent, as a courtesy, for
the second time to fourteen of Mr. Danelski.' s neighbors . None of
these was in attendance, although .Mr.. Danelski reported a number had
indicated they would be willing to- attend .if he felt their presence
would be helpful. . There was., therefore, no one to report failure
to receive the notice nor to object to its content.
As he had in his June 12th memorandum, Mr. Berg commented that the
• utilization of passive solar energy for existing structures as
Mr. Danelski' s, is a relatively new but growing concept which necessi-
tates establishment of a .policy for solar access alternatives in the
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City ordinance— He believed. at. this. time. to set a precedent for
granting 15 foot. variances whenever solar energy is utilized, would
be premature without adequate research.. He did not recommend denial
of the Danelski request,. but. rather, delaying a .decision until staff
has had an opportunity to research .the manual on solar energy being
developed by the State Energy Agency and the League of Minnesota
Cities and attend the .workshops. they are planning in the fall.
Mr. Jones pointed out that Mr. Danelski ' s. existing home is actually
45 feet from .the curb on 33rd Avenue N.E. , there is a fifteen foot
right-of-way, .and there . is very little likelihood of the roadway
being widened .since it deadends just over the border in Roseville.
The Planning Commission member said he believed Mr. Danelski is being
penalized.. for being on the corner of a street which has wider right-
of-ways than other roads and for which there is no foreseeable use
except, perhaps for sidewalks, which Mr. Danelski has said would pose
no problem for him, if installed. - Mr. Berg then. confirmed that, with
a 30 foot setback, he believed _.there. should be no visual problem for
motorists on either 33rd or Croft Drive.
Mr. Danelski .told the Commission .members when he first drew up the
specifications for the addition, he .believed the structure would have
to be 20 feet, but the architectural firm he had since retained was
able to develop a plan whereby the addition will only be 12 feet,
reducing the extent of the variance necessary for his project. Loren
Berg, President of Berg Associates, anarchitectural firm specializ-
ing in environmental technology, said he had made the preliminary
sketch presented to the Commission which will utilize a passive
solar concept with a woodburning fireplace, whichwill make the
addition self sufficient energywise, and may even-produce a surplus .
When the Administrative Assistant inquired whether there might be
an alternative to placing the addition on the south side of the
building, the architect told him there were other ways in which the
technology could be applied to this site, but the plans had been
developed .with Mr. Danelski 's "human needs" .in mind. He said Mr.
Danelski had not wanted the addition to "encompass the back yard
for which. he has other plans in the . future" . He then answered
specific questions regarding the utilization of solar energy for the
house .without mechanical components including methods .of preventing
heat loss through the many windows. The consultant then told the
Commission members he has sought and received dozens of variances
for his clients for the same concept but agreed with the Chairman
this is not the only method of utilizing the sun to the utmost for
this particular building,- but. rather, * this seemed to be the best
way of meeting his client' s needs for space expansion. Mr. Berg
told the Chairman his firm is comprised of three others besides
himself and is located in Plymouth,_ which in contrast to St. Anthony,
is a developing area.
Mr. Danelski told Mrs . Makowske he has no plans now for additional
landscaping between the addition and the street.
The hearing was closed at 8 : 25 P.M. , at which time the meeting was
recessed for five minutes .
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When he reconvened the meeting at 8:30. P.M. , .Chairman Bjorklund
reported that., when Mr. Sopcinski called him to tell him he would
be unable to be present for .the .hearing, the Commission member had
said he wanted to go on record as opposing the Danelski request
because of the magnitude of the variance which would be necessary and
because he is not .convinced the project will result in a heat
savings during the winter. . Mr. Sopcinski did not believe it had
been satisfactorily demonstrated that denial of the variance will
result in an undue hardship for Mr. Danelski.
Mr. Bowerman .said he had walked around the Danelski property and
concluded the requested addition will pose no traffic hazard on
either. 33rd or Croft Drive. He said he agreed with Mr. Sopcinski ' s
concern with the extent of the variance requested, but questioned
why there should be a 30 foot setback required where -there is already.
a 15 foot right-of-way along- 33rd. He said he had gone- away from the
last meeting perceiving this was "nothing more than a request for
an addition with solar energy thrown' in." , .but now had become con-
vinced, "after viewing the actual rendering of the plan on the
architect' s sketch and learning the technology which will be utilized
to accomplish solar concept" , that he could .vote in favor of the
proposal.
Mr. Jones agreed a 45 foot setback did not seem necessary and cited
the fact that there were no indications of opposition to the pro-
posal from Mr. Danelski ' s neighbors and indicated he believed the
addition, as proposed', would be aethestically pleasing where Mr.
Danelski "couldn' t tie an addition on the back of this house because
• it would look terrible" . He further contended that the conditions
set in the City ordinance for granting this type of variance had
been developed in a period of low .energy costs when energy conserva-
tion was not a consideration. and believes , "the Planning Commission
must now consider the needs of the community to utilize existing
floor space and, .at the same time, the technology .necessary for energy
efficiency" .
Mrs. Makowske said she was "wavering in her first opposition to the
proposal" , but was still concerned that the conditions set in the
ordinance had not been met'. She said she would "like to be convinced
because I 'm very much in favor of improvements being made to existing
structures in the City" .
Mr. Bowerman replied that he perceives the solar concept applied-
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ppliedto this home as a "natural step after all the other .improvements and
landscaping Mr. Danelski has done on his home" . He felt the ordin-
ance was "imposing a hardship on Mr. Danelski by interfering with
his attempts to improve the value of his home" .
Mr. Enrooth characterized himself as "somewhat of a futurist" .
He did not believe the consideration,-of whether the Berg firm
operated in Plymouth or St. Anthony was relative because he perceives
"Jim to be a pioneer in the utilization of a new concept in St.
Anthony-" , and wanted the Commission, "to address the questions
raised and -move into the 80 ' s with its ordinance He speculated
• the conditions set for granting variances had been formulated ten
or twenty years ago, at a time when "there was no anyone could
have considered solar utilization as a determining criteria" . He
did not believe the conditions should serve as a criteria for judging
a proposal but, rather, as only a factor in the decision process.
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Mr. B.jorklund did not perceive ".a .real .hardship had been demonstrated
through the architect' s testimony" and cautioned the Commission
members that the second condition .for .granting a variance under the
ordinance was that such a variance "not .be based exclusively on a
• desire. to*..increase the value -or income potential of the parcel of
sand. . . . " . He. said he believes..the City will face many requests
with solar as a reason for an addition and urged the decision be
delayed, as recommended by staff. He said hewill vote against the
request because he sees no hardship whatsoever demonstrated.
Mr-. Jones disagreed, saying he believes the Chairman ds interpreting
the second condition incorrectly, perceiving instead, that it refers
to the development of vacant land. . "Mr. Danelski -will probably
never recover the entire- costs.- of the improvement" , Mr. Jones insisted,
and "he could add 500 square feet to the back of his house which .
would .not .be nearly as aethestically pleasing as this proposal which
does an excellent job of providing the .needed living space expansion
in contrast to many other remodelling jobs approved by the City
which have been poorly done" .
Mr. Peterson said he was not opposed to the proposal per se, but
rather, urged the decision be delayed until the City. has had an
opportunity to develop technical language which can be utilized
to explain why the variance was granted, when other requests of this
nature come in. He doesn' t believe., "the knowledge the Commission
has at the present is adequate for governmental action" , and wants
a firm policy developed before a decision is reached on this
request, "so the City .won't' have to allow every 30 or 40 foot addi-
tion which comes in just because it will have solar energy devices" .
• Mrs.. Makowske took issue with the reference . to .the conditions which
have to be satisfied before variances to the City ordinance can be
granted, saying, "they have served the community well. over the years"
and "the Village has grown the way it has because. of these conditions" .
Mr. Bowerman perceived the developing of a firm policy regarding
solar systems will be a long and complicated procedure and would
"hazard a guess that a year from- now, we still won' t .have a policy
and. will have to make these .decisions on the input we receive re-
garding each variance, just as we do now" .
Chairman Bjorklund said, "the policy will be established by the
variances we grant,. if we don' t wait" .
The Administrative Assistant stated .there is nothing wrong with
necessary conditions applied to variances but that, as always , it
is a matter of what each member. perceives to benecessary to satisfy
the conditions. He reiterated his .earlier concern of the City having
no policy at this time to govern future requests- of this nature.
Mr. Bowerman .saw the hardship involved in this case as being the
rising utility costs to the homeowner and the inability to make his
home more livable through solar energy and concluded, "Mr. Danelski
is seeking relief from these costs through this action" . He later
• added, "he could build a 30 foot deck out there and we couldn't do
a thing about it under the existing ordinance" . He "assumed the
neighbors across the street would prefer looking at this well designed
addition to roof panels or solar panels on the lawn" .
Before making a motion, Mr. Jones said his. .opinions regarding the
utilization of front yards are well known and, "other communities
have recognized there is more value in using back yards for re-
creation, etc. , than for buildings" , but also pointed out, that
Mr.. Danelski' s addition "will still be more than 30 feet from the
roadway, and, even if the sidewalk were constructed, would be 25
feet from the edge of that sidewalk" .
Motion by Mr. Jones and seconded by Mr. Bowerman to recommend the
City Council grant a 12 foot sideyard setback variance to James
Danelski to permit him to remodel his existing home at 3301 Croft
Drive, as proposed in Site Plan A, finding that granting this
variance will : 1) Relieve an undue hardship caused by the very wide
setback held for right-of-way- along -33rd Avenue N.E. , which will
probably never be used, and must be maintained by the homeowner;
2) The proposed .addition is the best possible way for the homeowner
to provide additional living space for his family and, at the same
time, maintain the high quality of construction of this neighborhood
and the existing dwelling; 3) Low energy. costs when the City ordin-
ances were drafted .and this property was developed, did not take
into consideration that energy conservation would become a necessity
and that this proposal, using passive solar energy, would best meet
the needs of the homeowner, the neighborhood and the City; and 4)
A petition of support has been signed by Mr. Danelski' s neighbors
and no opposition was demonstrated at either of two hearings.
Before voting, the Chairman commented that he viewed the divergence
of opinion on the Commission as indicating all sectors of the City ' s
population are represented on that body. He added that he personally
• agrees with an opinion expressed by Mr. Sopcinski at another meeting,
that "many of the early residents had moved to St.. Anthony because
they wanted elbow room" . He questioned whether such "elbow room"
will be provided if front yards are built up. Mr. Bowerman said
he believed this proposal "leaves plenty of elbow room"..
Mr. Peterson called the question, but only the Chairman voted to
close off the discussion.
Mr. Enrooth said his home on 33rd .Avenue is closer to the street
than Mr. Danelski ' s will be with the addition.
Voting on the motion:
Aye: Jones, Bowerman and Enrooth.
Nay: Peterson, Bjorklund and Makowske.
Motion not carried.
Motion by Mr. Enrooth and seconded by Mr. Bjorklund to continue the
agenda.
Motion carried unanimously.
• In his June 12th report to the Commission, Mr. Berg reported results
of research he had done regarding several Commission members ' con-
cerns about signage on Silver Lake Road and the Columbia Heights
Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Bowerman said he did not agree with the
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City Attorney' s opinion that the signage for the Craig & Company
shop at 3909 Silver Lake Road will be permitted to remain if the
Hedlund PUD is revoked when the St. Anthony Court development final
platting is approved. When questioned about the revolving barber
sign on the site, Mr. Berg read the portion of the City ordinance
which disallows such signage. There followed a discussion of vari-
ances which had been granted to that restriction.
Motion by Mrs. Makowske and seconded by Mr. Jones to request staff
to write Craig & Company and any other owners of barber shops with
exterior signs which rotate, other than those permitted by variance,
to request removal of such signage since it does not comply with the
City ordinance.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Mr. Bowerman and seconded -by Mr. Jones to indicate to the
Council the Planning Commission has reviewed Columbia Height' s
Comprehensive Plan and with Commission concerns addressed satisfactorily
by the staff, have no objections to the Plan as presented , and there-
fore, recommend the Council make the appropriate response regarding
.the Plan to Columbia Heights.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Mr. Peterson and seconded by Mr. Jones to request staff
to develop a workable, reasonable and serviceable Certificate of
Occupancy, as suggested by the Acting .City Manager , for Council
• consideration.
Motion carried unanimously.
Motion by Mr. Enrooth and seconded by Mr. Bowerman to adjourn the
meeting at 10 :00 P.M.
Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully ,submitted,
Helen Crowe