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CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
July 21., 1981
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Bjorklund at 7 :30 P.M.
Present for roll call: Peterson., Jones , . Bjorklund, Sopcinski and
Enrooth.
Absent: Makowske and Bowerman.
Also present: Ron Berg, Administrative Assistant.
The Chairman reported that when Mrs. Makowske had called him to inform
him she. would- be unable to attend the meeting, she had requested
the minutes for the June 16th meeting be amended to add as Paragraph 7
on Page 5 the following:
"Mrs. Makowske questioned Mr. Berg regarding. the right-of-way
setbacks on other county streets and asked how many other
variances could possibly be sought by other property owners
on such streets. Mr. , Berg replied that there is no uniformity for
county street right-of-ways throughout the City" .
Motion by Mr. Peterson and seconded by Mr. Jones to approve the
minutes as amended for the Planning Commission .meeting held June 16 ,
1981.
• Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Enrooth agreed .to represent the Commission at the next Council
meeting which is scheduled for July 28th.
At 7 : 35 P.M. , the . Chairman opened the public .hearing on the request
from Duane .M. Fisher, 3329. Stinson. Boulevard N.E. , for the rezoning
of the former. Clark station property at 3301 Stinson from C, com-
mercial, to R-2 , two family residential, for the 100 feet. by 165
feet lot on which he proposes to construct a double bungalow for
his own use.
The Chairman read the notice of the hearing which had gone out to
approximately 6.5 property owners within 350 feet of the subject site
and Mr.. Berg reported the $10.0 application fee had been paid. No one
present reported failure to receive the notice or objected to its
contents.
In his memorandum of July 17th, Mr.. Berg had indicated he saw the
rezoning of the property to residential as in the best interests of
the community, especially since that existing commercial zoning had
been identified in the City Comprehensive .Plan as a planning issue
because of the conflict between commercial and residential in that
particular area. The Administrative Assistant reiterated he sees no
• problem with the size of the site or conformance with setback require-
ments for the building proposed by Mr. Fisher. He also doubted the
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property to the north had .been sold since Mr. Amerman, the owner, had
called him to indicate . he did not wish to have. the existing C zoning
for that property -changed to reflect . its residential. usage because he
may wish to retain that zoning for a small legal office for his own
use sometime in the future.
Mr. Fisher, who at present resides . in a double- bungalow in the same
block, said .he . has purchase agreements, contingent .upon. rezoning this
property to residential, with both the Clark company and Dave Mikkelson,
who owns the outlot strip to the .east. He told .the Commission
members the 1,500 square foot split level structure he proposes to
construct will be 30 feet wide with a garage on both Stinson and
33rd Avenue which should leave adequate side yard and rear yard
setbacks, and .a 30 foot front yard setback on Stinson. He told
Mr. Jones the only landscaping he contemplates will be grass and
shrubbery next to the building which should not interfere with the
vision of drivers on 33rd Avenue. The only curb cuts he will need
will be for the driveways in front of the garages.
Jerry Scavo,, who said he is the owner of Jerry' s Bakeshop in Apache,
was the only person present to speak about the proposal. He said he
had been- negotiating- with Clark for the property for a .bake shop
but had not been .-able to. come. up with financing to fund the purchase.
He will not .oppose the proposal , .as _made, as long as he is certain
the property will be developed immediately- for the-.proposed use.
Mr. Sopcinski said the City has. no. jurisdiction over the development
after it is rezoned as long as -the . project meets all ordinance
requirements for that zoning.. Mr. Fisher - indicated he could see no
reason for not proceeding at once with the construction.
• Mr.. Scavo declined further comment and the hearing was closed at 8 :00 P.M.
Mr. Berg was requested- to ascertain, before Council - consideration,
whether the City can demand proof .of .how.-the property will be de-
veloped if the .property' is downzoned. The Chairman indicated he
believed this proposal will .fulfill .a preference by the City
that this isolated commercial site should be redeveloped to retain
the residential .character of that .neighborhood. He recommended
Mr. Fisher get writtenverification that the neighbors do not oppose
the downzoning before . the Council meeting.
Suggestions that the approval be made subject to removal of the
existing commercial building on the site or that ° a time frame be
established for the development were not accepted in..the following:
Motion .by- 'Mr. Jones and seconded by Mr. Sopcinski to recommend Council
approval of the request from Duane Fisherto rezone from .C, commercial,
to R-2 , two family residential, the parcel of land legally described
as the south. 133 feet of the west 198 feet of the southwest 1/4
of the northwest 1/4 of .Section 6 , Township 29 , Range 23 , subject to
easement f,or .road purposes over the west 33 feet and the south 33
feet thereof, noting that Mr. Fisher has indicated .his intention of
also purchasing the adjoining outlot, resulting in a better utilization
of that. vacant Property, and that there was no opposition to the
• proposal during the hearing from adjoining property owners . However.,
the Commission recommends the legal questionsraised about whether the
Clark company should have joined Mr. Fisher in the request to rezone
should be resolved before a final decision is reached.
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motion -carried unanimously.
John Forsberg, 3513 Belden Drive, of Watson and Forsberg, general
contractors for the .Hub Manufacturing building under construction in
the St. Anthony Office Park, told the Commission the owner of the
building, Leon Hubbard, . had . requested he appear. before them to request
the variances to the sign ordinance .neces.sary for two ground lit
monument signs which will .identify.the two .tenants in that building,
Gottwalt Products , Inc. and another yet-to-be-named. Mr. Berg pre-
sented the plans for the signs which he had recommended be approved
because they are consistent with monument signage previously granted
in the City, but suggested the lettering on the unidentified sign be
submitted for staff review. He could see no problem for emergency
vehicles to gain access to the building .related to the siting of the
signs. Mr. Sopcinski noted the .ground lighting for the signs will
be 7 feet within the City' s right-of-way. Mr. Forsberg said such
lighting must be at' least -10 .feet away from the signs and although
the signs could be set further back by 7 feet, the lighting would
still have to be located in the right-of-way.
Motion by Mr. Jones and seconded by Mr. Peterson to recommend Council
approval of the variances to the sign. ordinance necessary for two
ground-lit monument signs with 40 square feet of signage on each, to
be constructed as proposed in Exhibit A and as sited .in Exhibit .B,
provided the signs are not placed on a berm and ground lighting is
provided within the property lines .on the site, finding there have
been numerous precedents set for permitting' such monument signage in
that subdivision. The approval should be made contingent upon sub-
mission of a lettering plan for the sign identifying the to-be-named
tenant for staff review to assure its complimenting the other sign.
Before voting, Mr. Sopcinski offered an amendment to the motion,
which was not accepted, that "The Commission is' unable to come to
grips with the siting of - the ground lighting within the public domain. "
The motion was carried unanimously.
The meeting was recessed at 8: 50 P.M. and reconvened at 8 :55 P.M.
for consideration of the request from John A. Domalik., 3336 Roosevelt
Street N.E. , for a concept review of the feasibility of constructing
a single family residence on the substandard, but platted, 50 feet
wide lot Mr. Domalik owns along with the double bungalow to the north
in which he now resides , but which is now up for sale. Mr. Domalik
indicated he may keep the home for his own use.
In his memorandum of :July 17th, Mr. Berg gave the background history
of both lots saying, although the construction of the double bungalow
at 3336 Roosevelt .had never .been addressed in Planning Commission
minutes in 1957 , the building permit for the construction to Belair
Corporation had been signed "under protest" by the City Building
Inspector. Both lots .were acquired shortly after by Mr. and Mrs.
Domalik.
Mr. Domalik's proposal will require a 25 feet front yard setback
variance to the required 75 feet and a lot size variance of 1;500
square feet from the required 9 ,000 to construct as planned, according
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4-to the Administrative Assistant who. gave no recommendation because
he could findno precedent upon which to base. sucha recommendation.
However, he noted -several points he believed might be considered
• favorable for approval, including the limited alternatives the City-
has- for increasing its housing stock and the fact- that the Metro
Council has. encouraged the relaxing of ordinance building requirements
to provide affordable.. and alternative type housing. He also suggested
approval of the concept might allow the same consideration for other
substandard.. lots in the same :area., including a lot directly across
the street from this site.
Mr. and Mrs. Domalik answered questions from the Commission members
regarding..their proposal. Mr. Berg had submitted- a map. of the area
which Mr. Sopcinski noted had not been corrected to reflect the
replatting of lots 6 , 7 and 8 to. run . east and west, . with frontages
on Roosevelt, .when St. Anthony Road was vacated. It was assumed the
replatting was done bymetes and .bounds .and Mr. Sopcinski commented
that most of the lots in that. Area, including his own, are 60 feet
wide rather than the required 75 feet.
Individual reactions to the. proposa•1 were expressed -for .Mr. and Mrs .
Domalik' s benefit. The Chairman .-views the proposal, as a good land
use and one for. which, there has been_ .ample precedent set but wants
the site surveyed to be sure .there will be no problem with the
garage in back. He then reported Mrs . Makowske had indicated to him
that she could consider the proposal favorably as long as there is
documentation .that the neighbors will .not oppose the project.
Mr. Sopcinski would not oppose therequest for variances but would
• want more specifics regarding the structure to be built, seeing an.
oversize dwelling on this size lot would be completely unacceptable.
He prefers utilization of the property for a family dwelling to
leaving it vacant or used for a parking lot.
Mr. Enrooth commented if the variances are granted, and the owner
does not build a home for himself, the granting of the variance will
obviously appreciate the value of- the property but wasn't sure the
City could set sucha restriction on_ the variances . He also was
concerned with the size contemplated for the. structure to be built
on the .property and the controls the City will have once the variances
are granted. He -drew a comparison with this proposal and the Spielman
request for their property on 37th Avenue N.E. , but was reminded that
concept involved a two family dwelling.
Mr. Peterson is favorably disposed towards the concept since the
variances will have to be formally considered at- a. public hearing
where more _specifics will -be : required. He was also inclined to agree
that the . City may have to reduce lot . size .to secure more housing.
Mr. Jones believes this will be an excellent use for this property and
more benefit to -the community than . a vacant lot. He could approve
the variances for a specific proposal which .would provide maximum
spacing between this. and adjoining structures but would . consider none
other than a single family dwelling on the site. He would also like
to see the garage built on the .front of .the house. Mr. Jones agreed
• there should .be written indication .that the adjoining neighbors will
not oppose the concept and told Mr. Domalik specific house plans will
be necessary before any variances can be considered.
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Mr. Berg. had included in the agenda Packetallpertinent documentation
related -to the adoption of :Resolution. 81-081 approving the barber-
beauty .shop usage for 3909 Silver: Lake .Road .under the Hedlund PUD.
• Included with copies of minutes of- meetings where the approval was
developed, .was the November 12 , 1980 , letter from. W. R. Burlingame
of the First State Bank of New Brighton extending the -maturity date
for the Irrevocable Letter of Credit to November .30 , 1981. Mr. Berg
said the owner of the shop, Craig Morris., had recently assured him
all conditions set for approval of the plan will be- fulfilled before
the deadline in October. The Administrative-' Assistant was requested
to write a letter sometime in August to Mr. Morris , Gordon Hedlund
and Mr. Burlingame telling them of the Commission' s concerns , es-
pecial'ly regarding compliance with landscaping and parking conditions
set by the Council when this usage was approved under the PUD and
to remind them that the existing signage for the shop was intended
only as a temporary measure and .that it.will. very . likely have to be
removed.
The Chairman then thanked Mr. . Berg for the maps and minute documenta-
tion he had submitted for -this meeting as well as .all .the research
he does in advance of each Commission meeting, which Mr. Bjorklund
personally finds invaluable. The new sign ordinance may possibly be
returned for Commission consideration- in August, the Chairman reported.
Mr. Sopcinski said he foresees the City entering the same type of
quagmire with the approval of the Danelski solar addition as with
the sign ordinance. He believes the City was "hoodwinked" into dis-
. regarding ordinance requirements for setbacks for an addition for
which testimony was drastically -altered between hearings. As an
example, he recalled the first claim.-made by .Mr. D.anelski that the
larger addition he first proposed would reduce his heating costs by
30% which was reduced- by the architect .at -the --next hearing to the
claim that the smaller addition .would . "be self sufficient with perhaps
a surplus to serve the rest of the house' The Planning Commission
member indicated he saw the many cautions. published to make people
aware of unfounded claims for solar systems- were ignored in the
decision to approve. the variances .
In the same context, the question of whether the Commission has it
in its power to accept a vote by. proxy. was fully explored. Mr.
Sopcinski believes in instances where data has- been provided at a
previous hearing at which a member is present, that member' s vote.
should be recognized if. he or she is unable ,to attend the meeting
at which a final vote is taken. Mr. Enrooth. disagreed, saying the
input provided during each meeting has . to be utilized for an informed
decision and Mr. Peterson indicated .he doubted whether Roberts Rules
of Order permit proxy votes . Mr. Jones insisted the Chairman goes
out of his way to include any testimony given him by an absent member
entered into each discussion and to assure their opinions are con
sidered in .the decision making.
The general consensus was that Mr. Berg should pursue the issue to a.
limited degree and report ,back to the Commission at a later date
regarding proxy .votes for the Commission. He was also requested to
bring any further data regarding solar concepts he receives to the
attention of the Commission members .
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The Council's decision to fund a research of the redevelopment options
for the Walbon property on Highway 8 was then reported by Mr. Berg.
The possibilities for continuing the commercial development on the
site were then explored .with Mr. Enrooth commenting "there isn't an
awful lot ,of residential- in that area along the highway" . Mr. Jones
wondered whether it might not be better for the City, rather than to
get involved in large development costs , to pursue the possibilities
of issuing municipal bonds to provide mortgage money for the property.
The Council hopes the study may provide an impetus for development
of that underutilized property by the private. sector, according to
Mr. Berg, who 'also reported the Council had indicated the presentation
of the study will be fully publicized and residents invited to
participate in the discussions.
Chairman Bjorklund requested the new City Manager be .invited to attend
the first Planning Commission meeting he can -and said he had already
suggested he be made aware of the importance of continuing the excellent
staff support given the Commission in the past.
He also cautioned Commission members against hesitating to differ with
the Council decisions whether or not precedents are set. He went
on to say it is the responsibility of the Commission members to
consider each proposal which comes before them independently.
Motion by Chairman Bjorklund -and seconded by Mr. Sopcinski to adjourn
the meeting at 10 :05 P.M.
Motion carried unanimously.
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Respectfully submitted ,
Helen J. Crowe
Secretary