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CITY OF ST _ ANTHONY
• PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
( Summation of Motions )
October 21 , 1986
Meeting called at 7:30 P.M. by Chair Franzese.
Present for roll call : Hansen, Wagner, Franzese, Werenicz, Madden.
Absent: Jones and Bowerman.
Also present: Larry Hamer, Public Works Director (substitution for City Manager) .
APPLICATIONS ACTED ON BY COMMISSION
ROBERT PARMELEE REQUEST FOR SETBACK VARIANCE FOR 2501 PAHL AVENUE N.E.
Request: to expand existing 14 foot X 20 foot attached garage to a 20 foot X
20 foot double garage to within 19 feet of alley setback;
to extend existing breezeway six feet west to bring it into alignment
with garage structure.
Proponents: Mr. Parmelee and neighbor Donald Kraft (2504 St. Anthony Boulevard)
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• Opponents: none.
Staff input: ordinance setback requirements for eaves apply only to outbuildings
and not to major structures.
Commission Recommends Approval with Conditions
Motion by Werenicz, seconded by Hansen to recommend the Council grant an 11 foot
variance to the Ordinance requirement for 30 foot sideyard- setbacks to Robert L.
Parmelee which would allow him to add another stall to the existing attached garage
and to extend the existing breezeway on the home at 2501 Pahl Avenue N.E. six feet
further west to bring it into alignment with the garage, on the conditon that:
1 . The five foot, three inch gap between the garage and the building used for
storing automobiles the owner renovates and collects, be maintained with con-
struction and afterwards by removing the overhang on the outbuilding, if
necessary; and
2. The pickup truck parked on the property be disposed of.
In recommending the variance be- granted the Commission finds that:
a. the applicant had answered all three questions in the application in the
affirmative as required by statute;
• b. there was no one present during the hearing who spoke in opposition to the
variance and staff reported receiving no calls for or against the request
prior to the hearing,
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c. the alleyway between this property and St. Anthony Boulevard is not a thorough-
way and, therefore, a 30 foot setback in this instance might be excessive;
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d. extending the breezeway would bring it into alignment with the existing
garage.
Motion carried unanimously.
REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITY FOR DAIRY QUEEN
Request: conditional use permit in a commercial zone to include a drive-through
window as part of an expansion and remodeling project in the St. Anthony
Shopping Center.
Proponents: Albert Plaisted, 5210 O'Connell Drive, Moundsview, owner
Charles Anderson, 2827 Helen Street, . Maplewood, contractor.
Opponents: none.
Staff input: indicated no change from current traffic flow planned,
raised no objections to request.
Commission Recommends Permit Be Granted
Motion by Hansen, seconded by Wagner to recommend the Council grant the requested
conditonal use permit in a commercial zone to Albert Plaisted which would allow the
• construction of a drive-through window at the Dairy Queen, 2612 Highway 88, as part
of his proposal to expand and remodel his store at that location on the condition that
markings on the surface of the adjacent parking area as well as signage be provided
to direct traffic past the drive-through window in a proper manner.
In recommending the: Council grant the permit, the Planning Commission finds that:
1 . the applicant had answered all three questions on the application in the
affirmative as required by statute;
2. the addition of the drive-through facility would not appear to interfere with
existing traffic flow patterns or cause unusual congestion problems that
would be peculiar to that area;
3. no one appeared during the hearing to speak in opposition to the proposal and
staff reported receiving no calls against it prior to the hearing;
4. the applicant appears to be making every effort to upgrade his property,
improve its appearance, and bring it into conformance with what is seen to be
a positive approach by the owners to upgrade the entire shopping center.
Motion carried unanimously.
REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE FOR DAIRY QUEEN
• Requested: variance for a free-standing sign (60 square feet on each side) for food
service establishment in addition to logo to be added to new mansour
roof on building.
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Proponents: Albert Plaisted and Charles Anderson (same as for conditional use
permit) .
Opponents: none.
Staff input: suggested recommendation of denial because center already has
large pylon sign.
proposed two alternatives available to applicant:
a. wall signage in lieu of existing non-conforming roof sign; or
b. leave that signage in place rather than lose "grandfathered-in"
status.
reported Eberhardt representative had met with center owners in
New York and a plan for renovating the store fronts and for uniform
signage for the center had been developed as per colored sketch
provided the City.
told applicant the current City Ordinance allows only gas sations
and shopping centers to have pylon signage; hence, the sign on the
Mobil station next door.
Commission Recommends Council Deny Free-Standing Sign for Dairy Queen
Motion by Madden, seconded by Werenicz to recommend the Council deny the request for a
free-standing sign for the St. Anthony Dairy Queen at 2612 Highway 88, in anticipation
that uniform signage for the entire shopping center would be forthcoming and the City
could best deal with that probability by not granting any further signage variances
in the St. Anthony Shopping Center.
• Motion carried unanimously.
Commissioner Madden told the applicant that the Commission could only address his
request for a free-standing sign at this hearing and the status of the rotating sign
he now has on top of the building had not changed. The Commissioner suggested
Mr. Plaisted sit down with staff to explore the other options he might have for signage
acceptable to the City.
REQUEST FOR SIGNAGE FOR J. T. VARGAS REAL ESTATE OFFICE AT 3909 SILVER LAKE ROAD
Request: variance to Ordinance regulations related to free-standing signs to
allow installation of an 8 foot X 3 foot (24 square feet on each side)
sign in same location where several unacceptable signs for previous
tenants had been sited.
Proponents: Jose T. Vargas, same address, who indicated he would be willing to meet
all the Ordinance requirements for this sign.
Opponents: none (and no calls received by staff) .
Staff input: perceived neither the sign erected by the last tenant or the sketch
of the sign the applicant proposes to replace it with was exactly
what the Commission had in mind for the "groundhugging a sign which
should have had no more than six inches between it and the berm below
• it" the City had previously approved;
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suggested the signage for the townhomes next door might be a good
model for the applicant to follow;
• recommended approval only if sign extends the full length of the
berm or is reduced to fit the berm.
Commission Sets Copnditions for Council Approval
Motion by Wagner, seconded by Werenicz to recommend the Council grant a variance to
the Sign Ordinance requirements for free-standing signs to the J. T. Vargas Co. ,
Inc. Real Estate, 3909 Silver Lake Road, which would allow the installation of a
two sided, 24 square foot (48 square feet total sign area) sign to be mounted above
a berm, portions of which are in existence on the property on the following conditons:
1 . that the berm be extended the full length of the sign and that the sign
rest not more than six inches above the berm at its lowest point; and
2. the sign not be lighted for night use.
In recommending the variance be granted, the Planning Commission finds that:
a. when a similar sign was approved for a prior tenant in this building, the
intent of the variance was that a full berm be provided under the sign and the
same condition should be required of this applicant;
b. the applicant had answered all three questions in the application in the affirma-
tive as required by statute;
• c. the petitioner had indicated compliance with all the requirements of the
variance;
d. the Commissioners were assured that an amended sketch of the sign which would
be installed would have to be submitted before the City issues a permit; and
e. no one appeared at the hearing to speak against the variance.
Motion carried unanimously.
REQUST FOR LOT SPLIT FOR 2809 ST. ANTHONY BOULEVARD
Request: subdivision without platting which would allow transfer of triangular
parcel of 122 feet X 134.55 feet X 133.40 feet (831 square feet) from
2817 St. Anthony Boulevard (Lot 49) to applicant for 2809 St. Anthony
Boulevard (Lot 48) .
Proponents: Robert A. Knox, owner and resident who indicated "shock to find
property he had used for 20 years did not belong to him".
Opponents: none and no calls received by staff.
Staff input: reported both lots are subsize, 8,000 square feet where Ordinance
requires; 9,000 for the Knox property and 10,200 square feet where
11 ,000 are required for corner lot owned by P. H. McMahon; thus
creating no new non-conforming property; but
• recommend approval because to do so would merely place the proposed
property line where the neighbors had actually thought it was
for years.
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Commission Recommends Council Allow Requested Lot Split
• Motion by Madden, seconded by Wagner to recommend the Council approve the subdivision
without platting which would allow the transfer of 831 square feet of property from
Lot 49 (2817 St. Anthony Boulevard) to Lot 48 (2809 St. Anthony Boulevard) as
requested by Robert A. and Mary C. Knox, owners of Lot 48 finding that:
1 . the lot split would accommodate both property owners and would continue
non-conforming property sizes and would not create any new non-conforming
property; and
2. no one appeared to speak against the land transfer and staff reported no
calls for or against prior to the Commission hearing.
Motion carried unanimously.
MODIFIED REQUEST FOR SIGNAGE FOR B. N. METRO CREDIT UNION SIGNAGE
Motion by Hansen, seconded by Werenicz to take the requst for signage from the table.
Motion carried unanimously.
Request: variance for two double sided signs (6 inches X 8 feet each) to be mounted
on the roof of the drive-through teller facility and a 12 inch X 16 foot
sign on the office frontage in the Northgate Office Park; or two
12 inches X 16 feet double sided signs to be mounted on the teller
facility roof.
Proponents: Frank Stieve, Treasurer and Manager of Credit Union;
Henry Patzke, Credit Union consultant;
Craig Mathias, Northgate Manager.
Opponents: none.
Staff input: reported applicants had dropped request for third sign on the north
side of the building;
stated that any variance should be conditioned on the Credit Union
limiting all additional signage on the building to allowed window
signs and the office identification on the building columns
permitted all unit owners;
identified the Credit Union's office number as 2500;
confirmed that the square footage for either request would meet the
Ordinance requirements.
Variance for Two Signs on Drive-Through Teller Recommended
Motion by Werenicz, seconded by Wagner to recommend the Council grant a variance to
the Sign Ordinance requirement for only one sign per business to the B. N. Metro
Credit Union, 2500 Highway 88, to allow two 12 inch by 16 foot signs to be mounted on
the northeast and southwest sides of the Credit Union's free-standing drive-through
teller facility at the Northgate Office Park on the conditions that:
1 . the signs which would be comprised of raised letters on a flat background
vertical to canopy, would not be lighted;
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2. no additional signage on the main building would be allowed except the
permitted window signs and the small placard on the building columns which
the building management allows to identify individual unit owners;
3. no one spoke against the variance during the Commission hearing (and staff
reported receiving no calls either for or against the proposal prior to the
hearing) ;
4.1 the applicants had answered all three questions on the application in the
affirmative as required by statute.
Motion carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Madden, seconded by Hansen to adjourn the meeting at 9:55 P.M.
Motion carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Helen Crowe, Secretary
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