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• 1 CITY OF ST. ANTHONY
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3 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
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5 JUNE 15, 1993
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8 I. CALL TO ORDER
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10 The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. and the Pledge of Allegiance was led by
11 Chair Faust.
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13 II. ROLL CALL
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15 Commissioners Present: Thompson, Franzese, Gondorchin (arrived 7:02 P.M.), Faust,
16 Werenicz, and Madden
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18 Commissioners Absent: None
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20 Staff Present: Management Assistant Urbia
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22 III. APPROVAL OF MAY 18, 1993 MINUTES
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4 Motion by Madden, seconded by Franzese to approve the minutes of the May 18, 1993
25 Planning Commission Meeting with the following corrections:
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27 page 2, line 34: change "538" to "528"
28 page 2, line 42: add "to be in compliance with the bylaws." after "application"
29 page 5, line 36: change "garage" to "house"
30 page 5, line 43: end sentence after "proposed" using "." and capitalize the word
31 "a" immediately following to begin a new sentence
32 page 6, line 32: change the name "Gondorchin" to the name "Murphy"
33 page 12, line 46: add "e" at the end of name "Frames"
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35 Motion Carried Unanimously
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37 IV. DESIGNATION OF COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE TO THE JULY 13, 1993
38 CITY COUNCIL MEETING
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40 Commissioner Werenicz will represent the Planning Commission at the July 13, 1993
41 City Council Meeting.
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43 V. PUBLIC HEARINGS
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05 A. Petition for Sign Variance, Leroy Signs. Inc. (Agent for First Bank), 3928
46 Silver Lake Road
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1 The hearing was opened at 7:06 P.M. by Chair Faust who read the Notice of Hearing
2 which had been published in the June 2, 1993 edition of the St. Anthony Bulletin.
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4 Mr. Urbia explained that the applicant was an agent for the business establishment, First
5 Bank. The request is to replace the three current Marquette Bank signs with First Bank
6 signs. The proposed total sign surface area will be less than what currently exists. The
7 current signage was allowed by variance, so precedence has been set. Mr. Urbia
8 recommended that the Planning Commission recommend Council's approval of the
9 petition for sign variance, citing precedence and a hardship being the circular.shape of
10 the building which has visibility concerns.
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12 Commissioner Madden questioned about the sign surface area of each individual sign,
13 which Urbia responded would be less in each case. Commissioner Franzese questioned
14 about replacement issues and the proposed ordinance - 1993-007. Urbia explained the
15 proposed ordinance and what replacement is. Staff directed First Bank through the
16 variance process because they would be able to replace the signage sooner than the
17 passage of the proposed ordinance.
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9 Commissioner Gondorchin pointed out that the bank began replacement. Urbia
0 responded that the bank is allowed to replace one sign, and that staff granted permission
. 21 for temporary banners. Commissioner Werenicz questioned about painting. Urbia
22 responded that he was sure the bank would paint over the area where the old signage was
23 at a minimum. Commissioner Franzese questioned about the hours of illumination.
24 Urbia responded that the Commission could place the same condition as previous, from
25 dusk to 1:00 A.M..
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27 Bob Everson representing First Bank spoke to issues relating to the petition for sign
28 variance. The company would like to put this issue aside and replace the signs. He
29 believes the circular shape of the building is a hardship. He believes the proposal is
30 aesthetically pleasing. Regarding illumination, he would be willing to comply with any
31 residential requirements. Also, First Bank does not illuminate signs past 1:00 A.M. for
. 32 energy conservation reasons. They have two temporary banners for identification and
33 to cover.up the area where the old signs where.
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35 Commissioner Franzese asked what color the building would be painted and what time
36 the majority of their banks stop sign illumination. Mr. Everson responded that the bank
37 will be painted the same color and that the majority of the banks end illumination at 1:00
38 A.M..
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40 With no further discussion, Chair Faust closed the public hearing at 7:17 P.M..
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2 Motion by Madden, seconded by Thompson to recommend the City Council approve the
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1 Petition for Sign Variance to Leroy Signs, Inc. (Agent for First Bank), 3928 Silver Lake
2 Road which would allow two additional wall signs. In recommending approval of the
3 request, the Commission finds that there were no neighborhood objections, the proposed
4 square footage is less than the square footage of the current signage, the three conditions
5 are met, and that the hours of illumination be from dusk to 1:00 A.M.. Franzese made
6 a friendly amendment that the bank will enhance the identity of Apache mall and might
7 help to draw customers to the area in general and that the simple architecture of the
8 building will be enhanced by the proposed signage. The friendly amendment was
9 accepted.
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11 Motion Carried Unanimously
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13 B. Application for Conditional Use Permit, Nancy Anderson, Tan Me - Apache
14 Plaza, 3800 Silver Lake Road
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16 The hearing was opened at 7:20 P.M. by Chair Faust who read the Notice of Hearing
17 which had been published in the June 2, 1993 edition of the St. Anthony Bulletin.
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9 Mr. Urbia explained that there were two previous requests for this type of conditional
0 use but that there were listed conditions. The conditions were as follows: (1). the
21 massage therapy being restricted to medical care and approved hours of operation; (2)
22 the permit would automatically be revoked if there is any violation of applicable City or
23 state statutes related to criminal sexual conduct by any person associated with the
24 operation; and (3) the massage therapy offered must comply with the code of ethics and
25 definition of massage therapy established by the American Massage Therapy Association.
26 Staff recommends the Planning Commission recommend approval to the City Council for
27 the conditional use permit based on like conditions.
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29 Nancy Anderson explained how the two extra rooms she has in her tanning salon could
30 be put to good use by providing this additional service. She said she plans to have
31 someone from the Minneapolis School of Massage, and that she will have a reputable
32 business.
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34 Werenicz questioned if the customers would be doctor referred. Ms. Anderson replied
35 no but that the massage would be therapeutic.
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37 Madden asked if the massage worker would be an employee or independent contractor.
38 Ms. Anderson said the person would be an independent contractor.
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40 Franzese asked if there is therapeutic value to tanning. Ms. Anderson said there was
01 from the dry heat. Franzese asked if the person be from American Message Therapy
42 Association. Anderson was not sure, but stressed that it would be someone from the
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1 Minneapolis School of Massage.
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3 Faust asked if massage personnel are licensed. Urbia said they are most likely state
4 licensed as the City does not license massage personnel.
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6 Franzese asked about advertising and signage. Anderson said her ads would mention this
7 additional service. She receives no signage in the mall.
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9 Werenicz wondered about the timeline Anderson wanted to offer this service. Anderson
10 stated she wants to be open by August.
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12 Werenicz felt two of the three recommended conditions could not be met, only number
13 two regarding criminal sexual conduct. Urbia said medical care could be changed to
14 therapeutic massage.
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16 Anderson felt that by granting the conditional use it would be an asset to, her business.
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18 With no further discussion, Faust closed the public hearing at 7:33 P.M..
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0 Motion by Franzese, second by Werenicz to recommend approval with the three
21 recommended conditions, but amending the first condition by deleting medical care and
22 adding a fourth condition, where the massage personnel must be licensed by the State of
23 Minnesota. In recommending approval of the request, the Commission finds that no one
24 spoke in opposition; that precedence had been set; and the request does comply with
25 requirements of the conditional use.
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27 Gondorchin was uneasy about the service provider not being present and he was not sure
28 of the third and fourth conditions. However, other Commissioners felt that if the
29 conditions could not be met, the applicant will have to come back through the conditional
30 use process. Staff will look into the issues in condition three and four and present this
31 to the Council.
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33 Voting on the motion:
34 Aye: Thompson, Franzese, Faust, Werenicz, and Madden.
35 Nay: Gondorchin.
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37 Motion Carried
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39 C. Application for Conditional Use Permit, James R. Bona, St. Anthony Unocal,
40 Inc.. 2812 27th Avenue Northeast
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2 The hearing was opened at 7:37 P.M. by Chair Faust who read,the Notice of Hearing
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1 which had been published in the June 2, 1993 edition of the St. Anthony Bulletin.
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3 Mr.. Urbia explained that because the use will be expanded, the conditional use permit
4 process must be used. Urbia explained how staff worked with the applicant's
5 representatives to present this proposal tonight. Urbia felt the proposal was a win-win
6 situation between the residents and business. Urbia explained the phase-in process,
7 where curbing will be required in the areas where improvements are being made at the
8 time.
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10 Franzese asked why the applicant was responsible for curbing on the street. Urbia said
11 the applicant was responsible only on private property, not on the public street.
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13 Madden asked if the presented drawing was a proposal from the applicant or what the
14 City is requiring or both. Urbia said it was both, as this is what was negotiated.
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16 Madden felt that the condition limiting the number of cars and hours was too restrictive.
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18 Werenicz questioned if the size of parking spaces was accurate and how the proposed
�l9 addition would impact the number of parking spaces. Urbia said the spaces where 9' X
0 19' and that the new square footage will have a different number of required spaces and
21 they will be reconfigured.
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23 Tom Zappia, attorney for James R. Bona, would like 12 spaces instead of 10 for the
24 recommended condition. Franzese questioned if the proposed addition would be one or
25 two stories. The Commission felt that this was not a relevant question.
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27 John Jadinak, 2805 27th Avenue Northeast inquired if there would be parking behind the
28 old Meat Market. Urbia said there would be parking but behind berming and trees.
29 Jadinak inquired about the proposed canopy. He said the City should only consider
30 allowing the canopy after the new homes across the street are built so those residents
31 have input.
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33 With no further discussion, Faust closed the public hearing at 7:55 P.M..
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35 Madden felt the applicant may have gained property but lost three curb cuts on 27th
36 Avenue. Madden felt the applicant lost a lot by losing access, so he would like to see
37 car storage increased to twelve cars.
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39 Faust requested to see where the berming will be on the drawing. Urbia described the
40 area to be along 27th Avenue. The area west of the service station will have the existing
01 fence.
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1 Franzese inquired if there were any parking restrictions on the applicant's site right now.
2 Urbia said there was not. Franzese felt it is hard to justify restrictions if there are
3 currently no restrictions and because the business has a good track record. Werenicz felt
4 it would be pertinent to add a parking condition. Faust felt this condition was necessary
5 to give the City leverage to control long-term parking of junk cars. Madden felt a good
6 compromise would be no car over 48 hours. He felt junkers are not brought into a first
7 class operation like the applicants.
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9 Motion by Madden, seconded by Franzese to recommend approval to the City Council.
10 with the following conditions: (1) parking lot must be striped for 23 spaces; (2) curbs
11 must be installed in the areas specified on the drawing and be insurmountable and be of
12 concrete; (3) if a canopy is installed, lighting must shine down; (4) if the proposed
13 addition is built in the future, the lot must be subdivided into one parcel; (5) no car may
14 be stored for no more than 48 hours; and (6) the property address must be changed from
15 a 27th Avenue address to a Kenzie Terrace address.
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17 In recommending approval of the request, the Commission finds that there was one
18 person for the request and one against the request and that this is not only a
9 neighborhood issue but an issue of the business community surviving. Commissioner
0 Franzese wished to include a friendly amendment that the request meets the three
21 requirements for a conditional use.
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23 Motion Carried Unanimously
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25 D. Petition for Variance. James R. Bona, St. Anthony Unocal, Inc., 2812 27th
26 Avenue Northeast
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28 The hearing was opened at 8:07 P.M. by Chair Faust who read the Notice of Hearing
29 which had been published in the June 2, 1993 edition of the St. Anthony Bulletin.
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31 Mr. Urbia explained that a variance is required for the canopy, as a portion of the
32 canopy is outside of the building envelope. The variance would be for 28 feet. The
33 canopy and pumps could not be closer to the building due to traffic flow problems and
34 the cost of moving the pumps. Potential hardship that could be identified is the unusual
35 shape of the lot, the cost to move the pumps, and traffic flow problems if the canopy and
36 pumps must be moved.
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38 Commissioner Franzese questioned the economic issues. Urbia explained that economic
39 reasons could not be identified alone as a hardship in granting a variance.
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01 Gondorchin questioned if the hours of operation would be expanded. Urbia believed they
2 would not be expanded.
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1 Mr. Zappia felt the traffic flow, if the canopy is moved, would be difficult; the shape of
2 the lot; and the cost to move pumps, as the hardship. Economic considerations cannot
3 be considered alone. Mr. Zappia said the hours of operation would be the same. Mr.
4 Zappia asked about the conditional use permit and the condition to limit storage of
5 vehicles parked over 48 hours. He said there might be times when they would need a
6 car stored over 48 hours if they order parts from Seattle. The Commission directed the
7 applicant to work with staff on this issue between now and the City Council meeting on
8 July 13, 1993.
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10 Mr. Mike Eicher spoke to the pump configuration. It is designed as a zero rejection
11 pump, so that all grades of gas are at "the pump that the customer chooses.
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13 Faust questioned about the height of the canopy. Mr. Eicher said the canopy will have
14 14'6" clearance and will be 3' wide for an overall height of 17'6" canopy.
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16 Mr. Paul Archambault of 2716 Pahl Avenue Northeast spoke in favor of Mr. Bona's plan
17 and felt he ran a clean and efficient operation. He felt Mr. Bona has addressed the
18 neighbor's concerns. Mr. Archambault felt there was a gas station at this location for
09 forty plus years, long before other residents. He feels the plans will be an improvement.
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21 With no further discussion, Faust closed the public hearing at 8:30 P.M..
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23 Gondorchin approves of the proposal, as he believes canopies are a part of doing
24 business. Madden was in favor.
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26 Motion by Madden, seconded by Franzese to recommend approval to the City Council
27 for the petition for variance, the three requirements for a variance have been met; two
28 people spoke in favor and no people spoke against the proposal; and the proposal will
29 enhance the business community. Franzese provided a friendly amendment to list the
30 hardship; it being: the unusual shape of the lot, the cost of moving the pumps, and
31 traffic flow issues if the pumps were moved closer to building.
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33 Faust had issue with undue hardship. Gondorchin agrees and believes the listed hardship
34 should not be included. The listed hardship was not removed, as Madden and Franzese
35 did not accept the amendment request.
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37 Voting on the motion:
38 Aye: Thompson, Franzese, Gondorchin, Werenicz, and Madden.
39 Nay: Faust.
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01 Motion Carried
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1 VI. MISCELLANEOUS
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3 Sign Ordinance Issue
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5 Mr. Urbia explained the Northgate sign issue. Urbia explained that Ordinance 1993-007
6 had its first reading due to this issue. Motion by Werenicz, second by Madden to urge
7 the City Council not to proceed with the new ordinance and for further research into this
8 issue.
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10 Motion Carried Unanimously
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12 Section 1130 - Peddlers, Solicitors and Transient Merchants
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14 Mr. Urbia explained the City Council desired input on this issue, as they wanted to find
15 a way to allow the Gems and Stems owner to sell flowers on Mother's Day. However,
16 Mr. Urbia pointed out that if this were allowed, it would be difficult to stop the less
17 desirable street vendor activities. The Planning Commission agreed with this and felt the
18 ordinance should stand as it is.
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20 VII. STAFF UPDATE
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22 Mr. Urbia reported that the Henry Garage Setback Permit request was referred back to
23 the Planning Commission. Mr. Henry is deciding if he should attach the garage or have
24 a 30' setback. Urbia reminded the Commission that they can put conditions onto an
25 applicant for a Garage Setback Permit.
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27 VIII. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS
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29 Faust inquired about parcels around Apache Plaza. Urbia said there has been some but
30 they deal with the owner of Apache Plaza. Urbia said the rezoning of the parcels south
31 of TCF will have its second reading at the June 22nd City Council Meeting..
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33 IX. ADJOURN
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35 Motion by Madden, seconded by Werenicz to adjourn the Planning Commission Meeting
36 at 9:15 P.M..
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38 Motion Carried Unanimously
39 Respectfully submitted,
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42 David Mark Urbia, Acting Secretary