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Folder. PL MINUTES AND AGENDAS 1993
Document: PL MINUTES 12211993
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
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5 DECEMBER 21, 1993
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8 I. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
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10 The meeting was called to order at 7 : 00 p.m. and the Pledge
11 of Allegiance was led by Chair Faust .
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13 II. ROLL CALL.
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15. Commissioners present : Bergstrom, Thompson, Franzese,
16 Gondorchin, Faust, Madden. Commissioner Makowske arrived at
17 7 : 05 p.m.
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19 Staff present : City Manager Burt, Assistant Sarah Bellefuil
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22 III. APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 16, 1993 PLANNING MINUTES.
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Motion by Commissioner Madden and seconded by Commissioner
G15 . Franzese to approve the minutes of the November 16, 1993
26 Planning Commission Meeting with the following corrections :
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28 Page 2, Line 23 : Commissioner Gordorchin will attend the
29 December 13 , 1993 City Council meeting instead of
30 Commissioner Madden.
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32 Page 4 , Line 13 : The total square footage of the Hardee ' s
33 sign is 64 .44 feet instead of 86 . 6.4 feet .
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35 Page 7, Line 22 : Delete the remaining phrase after the word
36 "hardship. "
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38 Page 8, Line 11 : Replace the word "it" with "building" .
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40 Page 8, Line 16 : Replace the word "building" with the word
41 "business" .
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43 Motion carried unanimously.
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405 IV. DESIGNATION OF COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE TO CITY COUNCIL' S
6 JANUARY 11, 1994 MEETING.
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5 Commissioner Franzese will attend the January 11, 1994 City
6 Council Meeting representing the Planning Commission.
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8 V. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
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10 The public hearing was opened at 7 : 05 P.M. . The notice of
11 the hearing appeared in the December 8, 1993 edition of the
12 St . Anthony Bulletin.
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14 A. Application for Relocation - 3515 Harding Street N.E.
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16 Assistant Bellefuil informed the Commission that this
17 request was previously before the Commission and
18 subsequently the applicant withdrew his request . At this
19 time, he is requesting to move an existing free standing
20 accessory structure . In addition to the move, the applicant
21 will also be changing the existing gravel surface to a hard
22 concrete surface . This proposed request meets all the .
23 requirements of the ordinance.
X15 Commissioner Madden asked what options the Commission had
26 with this request and the City Manager told him that the
27 request met the requirement conditions and the Commission
28 didn' t have many options . The City Manager explained that
29 the ordinance states any time a building is moved, a public
30 hearing must take place and in this case an existing garage
31 is being moved forward, so the applicant .must apply for a
32 public hearing.
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34 Commissioner Franzese inquired if the eave was included in
35 the requirement of being three feet from the property line .
36 The City Manager said any eave had to be three feet from the
37 property line.
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39 Commissioner Madden asked if conditions could be attached to
40 the recommendation to the Council and the City Manager
41 responded yes.
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43 The City Manager explained at the present time the applicant
44 has a gravel driveway and in the spring many complaints are
5. received of mud being in the street from the driveway.
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5 Scott Barton, 3515 Harding Street, appeared to address any
6 concerns the Commission had regarding his request . He
7 distributed a letter from Ernst Machinery and House Movers
8 Corporation. Mr. Ken Ernst of Ernst Machinery had been to
9 Mr. Barton' s property twice for the purpose of estimating
10 costs and feasibility of moving the garage . Mr. Ernst sees
11 no problem in structural soundness or moving the garage .
12 Mr. Barton indicated the plan conforms to all setback
13 ordinances and codes and he is well aware of the eave
14 restriction.
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16 Mr. Barton explained that his plan would be a major
17 improvement to his property and he has the support of the
18 neighbors to the south. He referred to the letter which he
19 had from the neighbors speaking of their being in favor of
20' the project and Mr. Barton' s efforts in cleaning up and
21 improving his property.
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23 Mr. Don Dick, 3511 Harding Street, appeared before the
Commission. He is Mr. Barton' s neighbor to the north and is
not in favor of Mr. Barton' s relocation of his garage
26 because of the infringement on his property.
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28 Mr. Dick addressed his concerns about the hardship of
29 maintaining his fence if his garage is three feet away and
30 the safety issue if Mr. Barton' s garage were to catch on
31 fire . The City Manager indicated that the law stated three
32 feet from the property line was appropriate. Mr. Dick asked
33 if he had any recourse. Chair Faust told Mr. Dick that
34 there were many garages within three feet of the property
35 within the Village .
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37 The public hearing was closed at 7 :25 p.m. _
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39 Motion by Gondorchin and seconded by Bergstrom to approve
40 Mr. Barton' s request for a building relocation and that it
41 be in accordance with City Ordinance Section 1650 . 11
42 regarding the mover, permits, zoning codes, and condition of
43 the building; that the exterior match and be upgraded to
44 satisfactorily meet requirements by the City Engineer; the
5 driveway be a hard surface; and a professional survey be
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5 performed by a licensed survey company to ensure it is three
6 feet from the property line . Commissioner Madden inserted
7 the requirement that the edge of the hard surface driveway
8 be a minimum of five feet from the property line .
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10 Motion carried unanimously.
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12 VI. MISCELLANEOUS.
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14 A. Petition for Sign Variance, Jake Cadwallader - Owner -
15 Reality World Cadwallader, 3800 Apache Lane.
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17 Assistant Bellefuil indicated to the Commission that Mr.
18 Cadwallader had been requesting a sign variance and since
19 October there has been no contact from Mr. Cadwallader.
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21 The City Manager said Mr. Cadwallader does not have a sign
22 displayed at the present time. The Commission recommended
23 sending Mr. Cadwallader a letter telling him he was being
04 removed from the agenda. It was also suggested that the
5 mounting for the sign be taken down.
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27 Commissioner Franzese inquired about the applicant ' s $100
28 permit fee . She felt Mr. Cadwallader should be notified
29 before his request was dropped.
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31 Commissioner Makowske did communicate with Mr. Cadwallader
32 before the November meeting and he felt Mr. Cadwallader
33 would not come before the Commission until he had an
34 alternative plan and the Commissioner felt at this time he
35 did not .
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37 Motion by Faust and seconded by Makowske to remove Mr.
38 Cadwallader' s request from the future agendas with the
39 exception that the Zoning Administrator take into
40 consideration the $100 fee already paid by Mr. Cadwallader
41 if he requests another permit .
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43 Motion carried unanimously.
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5 B. Discussion on Outside Storage.
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6 Assistant Bellefuil indicated to the Commission that the
7 City does not have an ordinance addressing outside storage
8 and sales . She is proposing that the Planning Commission
9 recommend that staff research and develop an outside storage
10 and sales ordinance. The ordinance would require a special
11 use permit by businesses if they wish to store or sell items
12 outside of their building.
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14 Chair Faust felt there should be two separate ordinances
15 made one to address outside sales and one for outside
16 storage.
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18 C. Slide Presentation of Permanent Ground Signs.
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20 Assistant Bellefuil presented a slide show of various ground
21 signs in St . Anthony. She reviewed with the Commission that
22 grounds signs should not be visible underneath and should
23 only be a maximum of five feet high and if only one side is
showing, that should only be a maximum of 20 square feet and
5 if two sides are showing, that should only be a maximum of
26, 32 square feet . There is also an additional landscape
27. provision where a sign can have up to an extra three feet in
28 height or an extra 12 square feet of sign surface area.
29 Each building is allowed to have one ground sign and one
30 wall sign.
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32 Only five of the nineteen surveyed signs were in accordance
33 with the sign ordinance . Conforming signs included Village
34 Townhomes, William Adams, Advanced Web Tech, St . Charles,
35 and GoodYear. Nonconforming signs included the High School,
36 Middle School, Medtronics, Leslie Paper, Anthony Place,
37 Winston Co. , Building Fasteners, Autumn Woods, Lowry Grove,
38 St . Anthony Court, Pizza Hut, Hardees, Bakers Square, and
39 TCF.
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41 The Commission discussed the possibility of having
42 categories to define the sign sizes such as commercial and
43 industrial businesses versus residential and elimination of
44 the bonus and make landscaping a requirement to the sign.
05 The City Manager indicated- he would like to have a clear,
6 easy to understand ordinance that can easily be interpreted.
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5 He understood the Commission wants to make an adjustment on
6 the allowable size of the sign to have a maximum height; and
7 to work something out with landscaping. In addition, the
8 Commission would like staff to look at the material the sign
9 is constructed with as part of the ordinance and also to
10 remove the bonus provision.
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12 VII. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS.
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14 Commissioner Bergstrom. No comments.
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16 Commissioner Thompson. Wanted to wish the Commission happy
17 holidays .
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19 Commissioner Franzese. Also wanted to wish the Commission
20 happy holidays .
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22 Commissioner Gondorchin. Inquired about the Central Park
23 redevelopment . The City Manager indicated they had spent
14 quite a bit of money on the soccer fields and said there was
5 not any money left in the charitable gambling funds for
26 anything else. Commissioner Gondorchin also inquired about
27 the sidewalk surrounding the field. The City Manager
28 indicated that had not been funded to be constructed yet .
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30 Commissioner Madden. Inquired if there was anything new on
31 Cub moving into Apache . The City Manager indicated he had
32 not heard anything yet but was still very optimistic about
33 the store opening in October or November of 1994 . The City
34 Manager also indicated that the rumor regarding Apache Plaza
35 going bankrupt was not true. Commissioner Madden also
36 reported on the meeting of the Development/Redevelopment
37 Task Force discussing losing the tax base in the commercial
38 and residential areas . The thrust of the Task Force is to
39 identify the tracks of land in the City needing
40 redevelopment or development and he asked the Commission for
41 input so he could put together a list to bring to the next
42 Task Force meeting.
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44 Commissioner Makowske. Wanted to congratulate the
5 Commissioners who worked on keeping the library open.
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6 VIII.ADJOURNMENT.
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8 Motion by Chair Faust and seconded by Commissioner
9 Gondorchin to adjourn meeting at 9: 00 p.m.
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11 Motion carried unanimously.
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15 Respectfully submitted,
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